when the Omicron variant starts spreading (as it is now). If initial reports from South Africa are accurate, Omicron spreads much faster than Delta, and the current vaccines are unlikely to prevent infection, though they may make symptoms less difficult (currently noted as headache and fatigue).
It's unlikely that there will be a vaccine for Omicron until later next year, though that could change (per news reports).
If the symptoms are as mild as being currently reported in South Africaq, though (somewhat flu like, and no ventilation ICU beds needed), and if Omicron crowds out Delta, then we might see herd immunity kick in, so possibly light at the end of the tunnel. In any case, get vaccinated and get a booster, since Delta is still out there!
And yes, NFL players will get infected. It's unavoidable, unless you lock them all in a bubble for the rest of the season. I'm sure we're going to see more and more players going into protocol, and this will likely affect the playoffs.
when the Omicron variant starts spreading (as it is now). If initial reports from South Africa are accurate, Omicron spreads much faster than Delta, and the current vaccines are unlikely to prevent infection, though they may make symptoms less difficult (currently noted as headache and fatigue).
The current vax does not prevent delta or the orig either, just mitigates many of the symptoms.
when the Omicron variant starts spreading (as it is now). If initial reports from South Africa are accurate, Omicron spreads much faster than Delta, and the current vaccines are unlikely to prevent infection, though they may make symptoms less difficult (currently noted as headache and fatigue).
The current vax does not prevent delta or the orig either, just mitigates many of the symptoms.
The vaccines do prevent original and delta infections, but they do not prevent ALL infections (this is one reason you see virtually no original covid infections anymore). Also, research shows that a vaccinated person who gets infected is less likely to be able to spread the disease, if they can it is possible for shorter time period, and it is also more likely that the infection they give to someone else will be less severe because their antibodies have already started to fight the virus they shed.
As far as John F's comment on herd immunity kicking in, South African scientists and doctors are saying the rate of reinfection (a person who has had covid who gets it again) is three times higher with omicron than delta.
when the Omicron variant starts spreading (as it is now). If initial reports from South Africa are accurate, Omicron spreads much faster than Delta, and the current vaccines are unlikely to prevent infection, though they may make symptoms less difficult (currently noted as headache and fatigue).
The current vax does not prevent delta or the orig either, just mitigates many of the symptoms.
The vaccines do prevent original and delta infections, but they do not prevent ALL infections (this is one reason you see virtually no original covid infections anymore). Also, research shows that a vaccinated person who gets infected is less likely to be able to spread the disease, if they can it is possible for shorter time period, and it is also more likely that the infection they give to someone else will be less severe because their antibodies have already started to fight the virus they shed.
As far as John F's comment on herd immunity kicking in, South African scientists and doctors are saying the rate of reinfection (a person who has had covid who gets it again) is three times higher with omicron than delta.
You seem to know, but how do you know what the percentage of Orig to Delta is at the moment or that the original doesn't seem to be an issue anymore? I think general testing just confirms Covid, not which variant unless looked for.
And, IMHO - just a guess, the Omicron variant isn't specific to So Africa, just identified there first. This is just a SWAG, but there are variants out there unidentified at the moment and the cases in the US did not necessarily come from South Africa but mutated here at about the same time as there - law of averages?
when the Omicron variant starts spreading (as it is now). If initial reports from South Africa are accurate, Omicron spreads much faster than Delta, and the current vaccines are unlikely to prevent infection, though they may make symptoms less difficult (currently noted as headache and fatigue).
The current vax does not prevent delta or the orig either, just mitigates many of the symptoms.
The vaccines do prevent original and delta infections, but they do not prevent ALL infections (this is one reason you see virtually no original covid infections anymore). Also, research shows that a vaccinated person who gets infected is less likely to be able to spread the disease, if they can it is possible for shorter time period, and it is also more likely that the infection they give to someone else will be less severe because their antibodies have already started to fight the virus they shed.
As far as John F's comment on herd immunity kicking in, South African scientists and doctors are saying the rate of reinfection (a person who has had covid who gets it again) is three times higher with omicron than delta.
You seem to know, but how do you know what the percentage of Orig to Delta is at the moment or that the original doesn't seem to be an issue anymore? I think general testing just confirms Covid, not which variant unless looked for.
And, IMHO - just a guess, the Omicron variant isn't specific to So Africa, just identified there first. This is just a SWAG, but there are variants out there unidentified at the moment and the cases in the US did not necessarily come from South Africa but mutated here at about the same time as there - law of averages?
Is being a contrarian fun? Maybe you could use the internet to read about this?
is that no one really knows anything on the covid topic.
I know manmy people vaxed and its spreads throughout their familes. Where as I know unvaxed families where just one gets covid and it doesnt spread.
People's view and faith of science is dwindling as the variants and rules change so often.
I disagree. People seem to not understand what vaccines do and how they work, and then turn that into science sucking or changing. Maybe the "science" changed on masks and whatnot but it is effectively harmless. The science on vaccines are pretty damn concrete and have been for decades especially with the flu.
The equation is pretty simple. If you are vaccinated your probability of contracting COVID is much smaller and your symptoms are typically much less severe if contracted.
unvaccinated miss more time, basically... which makes no sense anymore because we can all get and spread it, regardless of vaxx status...
It's unlikely that there will be a vaccine for Omicron until later next year, though that could change (per news reports).
If the symptoms are as mild as being currently reported in South Africaq, though (somewhat flu like, and no ventilation ICU beds needed), and if Omicron crowds out Delta, then we might see herd immunity kick in, so possibly light at the end of the tunnel. In any case, get vaccinated and get a booster, since Delta is still out there!
And yes, NFL players will get infected. It's unavoidable, unless you lock them all in a bubble for the rest of the season. I'm sure we're going to see more and more players going into protocol, and this will likely affect the playoffs.
New COVID-19 variant Omicron fast moving but perhaps less severe, suggest early reports - ( New Window )
The current vax does not prevent delta or the orig either, just mitigates many of the symptoms.
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when the Omicron variant starts spreading (as it is now). If initial reports from South Africa are accurate, Omicron spreads much faster than Delta, and the current vaccines are unlikely to prevent infection, though they may make symptoms less difficult (currently noted as headache and fatigue).
The current vax does not prevent delta or the orig either, just mitigates many of the symptoms.
The vaccines do prevent original and delta infections, but they do not prevent ALL infections (this is one reason you see virtually no original covid infections anymore). Also, research shows that a vaccinated person who gets infected is less likely to be able to spread the disease, if they can it is possible for shorter time period, and it is also more likely that the infection they give to someone else will be less severe because their antibodies have already started to fight the virus they shed.
As far as John F's comment on herd immunity kicking in, South African scientists and doctors are saying the rate of reinfection (a person who has had covid who gets it again) is three times higher with omicron than delta.
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when the Omicron variant starts spreading (as it is now). If initial reports from South Africa are accurate, Omicron spreads much faster than Delta, and the current vaccines are unlikely to prevent infection, though they may make symptoms less difficult (currently noted as headache and fatigue).
The current vax does not prevent delta or the orig either, just mitigates many of the symptoms.
The vaccines do prevent original and delta infections, but they do not prevent ALL infections (this is one reason you see virtually no original covid infections anymore). Also, research shows that a vaccinated person who gets infected is less likely to be able to spread the disease, if they can it is possible for shorter time period, and it is also more likely that the infection they give to someone else will be less severe because their antibodies have already started to fight the virus they shed.
As far as John F's comment on herd immunity kicking in, South African scientists and doctors are saying the rate of reinfection (a person who has had covid who gets it again) is three times higher with omicron than delta.
You seem to know, but how do you know what the percentage of Orig to Delta is at the moment or that the original doesn't seem to be an issue anymore? I think general testing just confirms Covid, not which variant unless looked for.
And, IMHO - just a guess, the Omicron variant isn't specific to So Africa, just identified there first. This is just a SWAG, but there are variants out there unidentified at the moment and the cases in the US did not necessarily come from South Africa but mutated here at about the same time as there - law of averages?
unvaccinated miss more time, basically... which makes no sense anymore because we can all get and spread it, regardless of vaxx status...
You can win the lottery if you buy one ticket.
You can win the lottery if you buy 100 tickets.
Do you think the likelihood is identical in both scenarios?
You can win the lottery if you buy 100 tickets.
Do you think the likelihood is identical in both scenarios?
Two options - you win or you don't. 50/50 in both scenario!
I know manmy people vaxed and its spreads throughout their familes. Where as I know unvaxed families where just one gets covid and it doesnt spread.
People's view and faith of science is dwindling as the variants and rules change so often.
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In comment 15484886 JohnF said:
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when the Omicron variant starts spreading (as it is now). If initial reports from South Africa are accurate, Omicron spreads much faster than Delta, and the current vaccines are unlikely to prevent infection, though they may make symptoms less difficult (currently noted as headache and fatigue).
The current vax does not prevent delta or the orig either, just mitigates many of the symptoms.
The vaccines do prevent original and delta infections, but they do not prevent ALL infections (this is one reason you see virtually no original covid infections anymore). Also, research shows that a vaccinated person who gets infected is less likely to be able to spread the disease, if they can it is possible for shorter time period, and it is also more likely that the infection they give to someone else will be less severe because their antibodies have already started to fight the virus they shed.
As far as John F's comment on herd immunity kicking in, South African scientists and doctors are saying the rate of reinfection (a person who has had covid who gets it again) is three times higher with omicron than delta.
You seem to know, but how do you know what the percentage of Orig to Delta is at the moment or that the original doesn't seem to be an issue anymore? I think general testing just confirms Covid, not which variant unless looked for.
And, IMHO - just a guess, the Omicron variant isn't specific to So Africa, just identified there first. This is just a SWAG, but there are variants out there unidentified at the moment and the cases in the US did not necessarily come from South Africa but mutated here at about the same time as there - law of averages?
Is being a contrarian fun? Maybe you could use the internet to read about this?
I know manmy people vaxed and its spreads throughout their familes. Where as I know unvaxed families where just one gets covid and it doesnt spread.
People's view and faith of science is dwindling as the variants and rules change so often.
I disagree. People seem to not understand what vaccines do and how they work, and then turn that into science sucking or changing. Maybe the "science" changed on masks and whatnot but it is effectively harmless. The science on vaccines are pretty damn concrete and have been for decades especially with the flu.
The equation is pretty simple. If you are vaccinated your probability of contracting COVID is much smaller and your symptoms are typically much less severe if contracted.