I really thought this was a good article calling Judge out on his positive spin. In particular, Judge trying to make the Year 3 comparison of Flores to his being Year 2, which makes no sense on a million different levels--the first being, as Schwartz says, Flores won 10 games last year. Moreover, it got me thinking, that maybe Judge thinks he is in more trouble than he really is and was kind of trying to make a public case for his retaining his job. It was a lame attempt, but maybe he is feeling that pressure, which would be a good thing! Anyway, I post (and apologize if others posted this article).
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It felt weird to me. Like saying “no matter what happens it is fair that I should get a third year”.
Fans too often forget the coach and GM are speaking to the owners at press conferences.
I feel that's what's happening now with Judge. They were looking for every excuse to keep him but he's getting bent over a barrel every week, and the team has actually regressed from last year in some unexplainable ways.
They're just not any good, that's obvious.
AcesUp - that kind of represents the problem with Judge, too. It sounds like he was a relatively unknown commodity who blew Mara away at an interview. He talked a big game with zero experience. Unfortunately, we see now he has absolutely nothing to back it up with. He seems lost.
I think that is why Judge's post game press conference tone of voice was very different and why Garrett got fired after that game.
I think it would have been beneficial to both parties for Judge to have taken the Miss. State job.
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But I also think he's going to need to get fired and do some soul searching to get there. He absolutely needs to grow a pair when it comes to in-game decisions, and he needs to delegate timeouts to someone else because he sucks at that element of in-game strategy.
I think it would have been beneficial to both parties for Judge to have taken the Miss. State job.
I am being honest, unless he goes to college and runs a really successful program, I really doubt he would get another NFL job. He goes back to being what a ST coach, who is going to give him another chance. There is always new talent in the coaching ranks and the guys who usually get second chances are coordinators who have done a good job post-firing HC gig and they convince the next team they learned why they failed in situation one. Don't really see how Judge gets back to that conversation by doing specials.
I think that is why Judge's post game press conference tone of voice was very different and why Garrett got fired after that game.
I doubt it was DG.
How hard is it to go to YouTube and watch games from some of the best coaches on how they handled end of half and end of games?
Wouldn't that be a large part of what he would have to answer to in the interview?
What did they ask him? What's your favorite food for the buffet table in the clubhouse??????
In other words, zero change since ditching Garrett, so he has to say that things are getting better despite the problem apparently not being solely Garrett.
And doing so makes himself look ridiculous, at least to the fans and media.
In other words, zero change since ditching Garrett, so he has to say that things are getting better despite the problem apparently not being solely Garrett.
And doing so makes himself look ridiculous, at least to the fans and media.
He will use Jones getting hurt as an excuse.
How hard is it to go to YouTube and watch games from some of the best coaches on how they handled end of half and end of games?
Wouldn't that be a large part of what he would have to answer to in the interview?
What did they ask him? What's your favorite food for the buffet table in the clubhouse??????
Saban and Belichick vouched for him. That's all the Maras needed.
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and basically said the rest of the season will decide whether you stay.
I think that is why Judge's post game press conference tone of voice was very different and why Garrett got fired after that game.
I doubt it was DG.
How could it be DG?
That's asking someone at the end of the plank to make someone else walk the plank.
DG is dead man walking, rightfully so. He has absolutely no governance of Judge at this point. Fans should consider him retired at this point, IMO, because that's going to be the first announcement after the season ends.
If that happens he might not be back.
“He talks a good game”.
You're guaranteed to fail!
You're guaranteed to fail!
There are only 32 jobs available at any time in the NFL. And only a handful become available in any given year.
Yes, it's not a good look for the Giants to fire yet another coach after two years (and I personally think it's unlikely since they still have one more year to pay on Shurmur's contract, but neither here nor there), but it's also not a great look to lure a coach into a situation that doesn't actively reject losing.
The Giants are really fortunate to have an incredibly strong legacy and a major market to fall back on; any coach who wants to put his stamp on this franchise has a chance to be an all-time great, the way that Parcells and Coughlin are revered. It won't matter how many swing-and-miss placeholders were shown the door in the meantime.
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the Giants fire a third consecutive coach after 2 years and with this roster ..... what halfway decent coach would take the job?
You're guaranteed to fail!
There are only 32 jobs available at any time in the NFL. And only a handful become available in any given year.
Yes, it's not a good look for the Giants to fire yet another coach after two years (and I personally think it's unlikely since they still have one more year to pay on Shurmur's contract, but neither here nor there), but it's also not a great look to lure a coach into a situation that doesn't actively reject losing.
The Giants are really fortunate to have an incredibly strong legacy and a major market to fall back on; any coach who wants to put his stamp on this franchise has a chance to be an all-time great, the way that Parcells and Coughlin are revered. It won't matter how many swing-and-miss placeholders were shown the door in the meantime.
The biggest problem is talent evaluation. If that isn’t overhauled how do you convince a prospective coach that you actively reject losing? The only message they send is “here’s one of the worst rosters in the league, you’ve 2 years to turn it around”
They’ll find someone to take the job, he just won’t be their first, or probably even 10th choice.
"While we do some good things (on offense) during the game, obviously the whole isn't good enough. We can't win with more field goals than touchdowns. We have to score more points."
"Our running backs are like everyone else, they perform well then they have a small mistake here or there, where the play doesn't go the way we planned it. Our offensive line has positive plays but when the don't, that really blows the whole thing up."
"Our defensive scheme is designed to prevent us from getting beat quickly, to prevent the game from getting too lopsided too early. If we hold them to shorter plays, more plays, there is more of a chance things can turn our way."
I mean, we already know all that, but say that rather than this baghdad bob stuff, or just don't say anything other than "we didn't play well enough" over and over.
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the Giants fire a third consecutive coach after 2 years and with this roster ..... what halfway decent coach would take the job?
You're guaranteed to fail!
There are only 32 jobs available at any time in the NFL. And only a handful become available in any given year.
Yes, it's not a good look for the Giants to fire yet another coach after two years (and I personally think it's unlikely since they still have one more year to pay on Shurmur's contract, but neither here nor there), but it's also not a great look to lure a coach into a situation that doesn't actively reject losing.
The Giants are really fortunate to have an incredibly strong legacy and a major market to fall back on; any coach who wants to put his stamp on this franchise has a chance to be an all-time great, the way that Parcells and Coughlin are revered. It won't matter how many swing-and-miss placeholders were shown the door in the meantime.
The biggest problem is talent evaluation. If that isn’t overhauled how do you convince a prospective coach that you actively reject losing? The only message they send is “here’s one of the worst rosters in the league, you’ve 2 years to turn it around”
They’ll find someone to take the job, he just won’t be their first, or probably even 10th choice.
There hasn't been a team in the NFL that has struggled to fill a head coaching spot. Even as bad as the Browns, Jets, Bengals, Raiders, and Washington has been in our lifetimes, they have almost always gotten someone they wanted.
In other words, zero change since ditching Garrett, so he has to say that things are getting better despite the problem apparently not being solely Garrett.
And doing so makes himself look ridiculous, at least to the fans and media.
Except he's had access to exactly zero WR since blaming Garrett. There's that.
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In comment 15485420 Ron Johnson said:
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the Giants fire a third consecutive coach after 2 years and with this roster ..... what halfway decent coach would take the job?
You're guaranteed to fail!
There are only 32 jobs available at any time in the NFL. And only a handful become available in any given year.
Yes, it's not a good look for the Giants to fire yet another coach after two years (and I personally think it's unlikely since they still have one more year to pay on Shurmur's contract, but neither here nor there), but it's also not a great look to lure a coach into a situation that doesn't actively reject losing.
The Giants are really fortunate to have an incredibly strong legacy and a major market to fall back on; any coach who wants to put his stamp on this franchise has a chance to be an all-time great, the way that Parcells and Coughlin are revered. It won't matter how many swing-and-miss placeholders were shown the door in the meantime.
The biggest problem is talent evaluation. If that isn’t overhauled how do you convince a prospective coach that you actively reject losing? The only message they send is “here’s one of the worst rosters in the league, you’ve 2 years to turn it around”
They’ll find someone to take the job, he just won’t be their first, or probably even 10th choice.
There hasn't been a team in the NFL that has struggled to fill a head coaching spot. Even as bad as the Browns, Jets, Bengals, Raiders, and Washington has been in our lifetimes, they have almost always gotten someone they wanted.
I remember the Al Davis Raiders having a hard time finding a head coach.
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In comment 15485487 Ron Johnson said:
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In comment 15485458 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 15485420 Ron Johnson said:
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the Giants fire a third consecutive coach after 2 years and with this roster ..... what halfway decent coach would take the job?
You're guaranteed to fail!
There are only 32 jobs available at any time in the NFL. And only a handful become available in any given year.
Yes, it's not a good look for the Giants to fire yet another coach after two years (and I personally think it's unlikely since they still have one more year to pay on Shurmur's contract, but neither here nor there), but it's also not a great look to lure a coach into a situation that doesn't actively reject losing.
The Giants are really fortunate to have an incredibly strong legacy and a major market to fall back on; any coach who wants to put his stamp on this franchise has a chance to be an all-time great, the way that Parcells and Coughlin are revered. It won't matter how many swing-and-miss placeholders were shown the door in the meantime.
The biggest problem is talent evaluation. If that isn’t overhauled how do you convince a prospective coach that you actively reject losing? The only message they send is “here’s one of the worst rosters in the league, you’ve 2 years to turn it around”
They’ll find someone to take the job, he just won’t be their first, or probably even 10th choice.
There hasn't been a team in the NFL that has struggled to fill a head coaching spot. Even as bad as the Browns, Jets, Bengals, Raiders, and Washington has been in our lifetimes, they have almost always gotten someone they wanted.
I remember the Al Davis Raiders having a hard time finding a head coach.
Who was their choice and who did they settle on?
You're guaranteed to fail!
You're guaranteed to fail!
If the new coach is given REAL power to build his roster, you'd bet there would be a TON of applicants!!
The key will be the new GM. I could see Abrams being elevated to GM, but only be involved in cap/wage negotiations, while the new coach makes the final decisions on Free Agents, the Draft, and the final roster.
They just feel like they are dying on the vine right now.
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the Giants fire a third consecutive coach after 2 years and with this roster ..... what halfway decent coach would take the job?
You're guaranteed to fail!
If the new coach is given REAL power to build his roster, you'd bet there would be a TON of applicants!!
The key will be the new GM. I could see Abrams being elevated to GM, but only be involved in cap/wage negotiations, while the new coach makes the final decisions on Free Agents, the Draft, and the final roster.
Look at our current cap situation. We're restructuring guys who might never see the field again. We did the same thing last year. Look at next year's cap scenario - it's dismal. We dealt with similar cap pain at certain points during Reese's GM tenure. Even if you want to suggest that the GM dictates signings to Abrams (and I'll totally accept that), at some point, Abrams is derelict in his duties if he doesn't stop the madness before it occurs.
Why anyone would want to allow Abrams to manage the cap unchecked is unclear to me.