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Is it the scheme or Bradberry

ambr0se201 : 12/7/2021 2:22 pm
I forgot the exact point in the game, but it was a 3rd and medium (3-5 yds or so). Bradberry gave DeVante Parker a ~10 yard cushion which led to the easiest conversion you can have. Can someone explain why? Parker isn't going to burn by you.
Scheme  
knowledgetimmons : 12/7/2021 2:38 pm : link
Bend don't break means in 3rd and 2 you're better off giving the 3-4 yards up to get back into a more favorable down and distance for the Defense.

The only other explanation is that someone else was wearing Bradberry's jersey last year.
Had the exact same question  
mfjmfj : 12/7/2021 2:53 pm : link
after reading Sy's review. Bradberry has not been good this year, but as just a fan watching, a lot of it looks like him doing his job in a scheme I don't like. When the Giants secondary was really bad a couple of years ago, I always told my kids, when the defender is off by a yard or two that is on the defender. When he is off by 5 or 10 that is on the coach (or scheme). Bradberry has had some of both, but it seems to me mostly the latter.
it doesnt help that there is NO pass rush  
blueblood : 12/7/2021 2:57 pm : link
no one can cover forever.
Bradberry has been complacent too much this year  
Jimmy Googs : 12/7/2021 3:06 pm : link
I think he thinks he is covering his guy well enough, and is actually a bit surprised when the ball comes so often (or so quickly) to his cover.

He isn't sticking close enough, even in softer coverage schemes...

Guessing it's scheme  
JonC : 12/7/2021 3:07 pm : link
Graham's been using a ton of soft zone to protect the defense this season. It's weird.
Not sure it's scheme.  
redwhiteandbigblue : 12/7/2021 3:18 pm : link
From where I see it, the scheme is no different than last year with Graham. All cb's seem to play 10+ yards off receivers. For some reason Bradberry consistently gets burned when he has to move laterally, quickly. Puzzled why he looks so average this year when he virtually shut down receivers last year. Receivers seem to know a quick head fake and they can get open.
bradberry not "good"  
Platos : 12/7/2021 3:21 pm : link
or not AS good as last year?

Im pretty sure its scheme  
Rudy5757 : 12/7/2021 3:35 pm : link
I was at the game and I saw McKinney playing 15 yards off the ball on 3rd and short. They all play soft. I hate it, its not an aggressive scheme. Its probably a result of no pass rush. Keep us in the game, lower scoring, chew the clock to give us a chance at the end.

Clearly its not working. We are keeping teams to low scores but we are still losing games. On 3rd down we dont bring pressure. At least on 3rd down they should tighten coverage but we dont.
It's scheme.  
Matt M. : 12/7/2021 3:47 pm : link
DBs don't determine their cushions and drops for the most part. This is how we have played all year. Regardless of down and distance we are in soft zones the majority of the time and even in man they often drop deep. The S are consistently 20 yards deep regardless of down and distance as well.
Bradberry's game  
Rjanyg : 12/7/2021 4:16 pm : link
Is more physical once the pass is thrown than before the pass. He is a good zone corner, will use his hand effectively at knocking the ball away. He isn't great at bump and run coverage. Solid in run support. He does seem to give way to much cushion.
It’s been bothering me all year  
mattlawson : 12/7/2021 4:21 pm : link
I’ve only been to one game but it’s glaringly apparent in person
The point I was making by saying it was not the scheme  
redwhiteandbigblue : 12/7/2021 4:23 pm : link
was that Grahams scheme was the same 10-15 yards off receivers at the LOS as they used last year, so THIS year's scheme IMO is not the reason for Bradberry's ineptness. I too have been at the games and yes, the overall scheme in general sux. With no pass rush to speak of, you would think jamming the receivers at the LOS would be a better scheme.
Scheme?  
Thunderstruck27 : 12/7/2021 4:24 pm : link
Did Graham coach him to shy away from tackling all year?
Bradberry  
RHPeel : 12/7/2021 4:44 pm : link
From my eye: Bradberry was never the fastest corner (4.5 40 time in the combine), and sprint speed starts to decline for players in their mid-20s. Bradberry was always more about technique than closing speed, and if you lose a bit of speed you become vulnerable to things like crossing routes.

It's also why he shut down Travis Kelce, who doesn't have top-end WR speed: his technique is still there, he just can't keep up with the burners, and he gets exploited on those routes.
Bradberry is one of the slowest CBs in the league  
Vanzetti : 12/7/2021 5:31 pm : link
He uses his size and positioning to defend. It's easy to say he gave the receiver a big cushion for a first down but what if he were up and the guy blew by him for a TD or long gain.

The cushion is often when he doesnt have help from the safety.
Hasn’t he had 1 or 2 restructures?  
Joe Beckwith : 12/7/2021 7:57 pm : link
Between being a go-to on restructures, and on a team with a significant number of loses with no apparent short term turnaround potential on that, as I’ve said before I think he’s making business decisions.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/7/2021 8:01 pm : link
He was tremendous last season, but he's been meh this season.

It also doesn't help when we're giving such cushions.
RE: Hasn’t he had 1 or 2 restructures?  
knowledgetimmons : 12/7/2021 8:56 pm : link
In comment 15485961 Joe Beckwith said:
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Between being a go-to on restructures, and on a team with a significant number of loses with no apparent short term turnaround potential on that, as I’ve said before I think he’s making business decisions.


This take about business decisions is horseshit. Pleb take if I’ve ever seen.

Dude tackles, full stop. He’s a veteran and knows that lining up 10 yards off when we’re at 3rd and 2 that he’s giving the offense a free down. Why? Well that’s a question for the play caller. Clearly no faith in pass rush and no tolerance for a deep completion.
I disagree  
JFIB : 12/8/2021 8:20 am : link
With the sentiment that Bradberry is a willing tackler. Doesn't mean he won't tackle or doesn't but he is a hesitant tackler and most definitely not in it to make a stop. I notice a distinct difference in his tackling efforts this ear as opposed to last year.

I believe these cushions are all about scheme. I hate the defensive scheme. Bend but don't break just leads to a burned out unit by the 3rd quarter. This offense isn't good enough to play soft. Where was the aggressive play we were promised at Judge's press conference? I haven't seen it yet.
Both  
Rick in Dallas : 12/8/2021 9:00 am : link
Bradberry's play this year definitely subpar. His tackling this year has been awful. It looks like he is avoiding contact.
Graham's soft pass coverage has driven me crazy. I like seeing aggressive defensive play but not part of Graham's game plan this year.
I could have sworn Judge said  
bradshaw44 : 12/8/2021 9:02 am : link
He wouldn’t use a scheme that didn’t work for a player. He said he would scheme based on the players ability. Surely this can’t be the reason!!
RE: Bradberry is one of the slowest CBs in the league  
ambr0se201 : 12/8/2021 9:09 am : link
In comment 15485823 Vanzetti said:
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He uses his size and positioning to defend. It's easy to say he gave the receiver a big cushion for a first down but what if he were up and the guy blew by him for a TD or long gain.

The cushion is often when he doesnt have help from the safety.


Giving them a free first down at a crucial point in the game for fear of getting burned by Devante Parker over the top is absurd.
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