How about Jimmy G

Ouch.

he throws a terrible pick in the endzone

It’s not a terrible idea. But not the direction I would like to see them go. Signing him probably means a .500 record and out of reach of the top QB prospects.

Let Judge hitch his wagon to Jones for one more year. They either turn it around an all is good in Giants land. Or they bomb once again get fired and the Giants new GM and Coach get their pick of the top draft prospects.

Also I believe Jimmy is a free agent in 2023 so they can just sign him then if you still want him.

than all of social media? This dude gets hated and clowned on everywhere yet I've seen multiple posts here waning to acquire him for some reason.

Cheaper and just as good… with upside.

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but with a sizable contract commitment. I want to find the QB I envision lifting the Lombardi, aim higher.

So why not just keep DJ and continue to most likely lose, giving you the shot at the top of every draft to indeed get that young stud QB who will grow with the team?

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In comment 15509367 JonC said: Quote: but with a sizable contract commitment. I want to find the QB I envision lifting the Lombardi, aim higher. So why not just keep DJ and continue to most likely lose, giving you the shot at the top of every draft to indeed get that young stud QB who will grow with the team?

And shoot ourselves in the foot with a contract we can’t afford when we have to rebuild?

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Ouch.

That is more than likely going to be reworked once he is traded

In comment 15509378 shadow_spinner0 said:

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than all of social media? This dude gets hated and clowned on everywhere yet I've seen multiple posts here waning to acquire him for some reason.

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In comment 15509367 JonC said: Quote: but with a sizable contract commitment. I want to find the QB I envision lifting the Lombardi, aim higher. So why not just keep DJ and continue to most likely lose, giving you the shot at the top of every draft to indeed get that young stud QB who will grow with the team?

I don't want Mara tempted to extend Jones, and I think keeping him in there won't help morale. The Giants do a ton of dumb shit, and nearly every decision they've made in many years has been wrong.

on a team as short on talent across the board as we are, would be a serious mistake. It would only marginally improve us in the short term, and handcuff us in the long-term. I am surprised that so many people are advocating for this.

I don't know how anyone can watch our O week after week and think that any QB would succeed with it. We've seen what Brady and Mahomes looked like in the SB where they had OL issues, and our OL is markedly worse.

In comment 15509396 BleedBlue said:

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In comment 15509372 JonC said: Quote: Ouch. That is more than likely going to be reworked once he is traded

Not sure I agree with that, he probably stands good chance of scoring on the open market, and Giants would not really have any leverage to redo his deal without the incentive of new money, eg new years tacked on.

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but with a sizable contract commitment. I want to find the QB I envision lifting the Lombardi, aim higher.

then you are looking at the draft. No one is trading that young promising qb. On the marketplace, you will find former top draft picks who have turned out to be not very good (we already have one of those), guys with arm talent who are reclamation projects ( like Kerry Collins was) and vets whose teams have moved on.

Watch the Giants hire Cutcliffe to be qb coach, Jones has for him a decent year, gets a big contract and then he flutters back to earth the following year.

for drafting the right QB.

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for drafting the right QB.

Well of course Jon but mistakes happen...its not jus tthe giants. High qbs flop all the time

He is atrocious tonight, and not good in general.

Yikes.

He and JG are similar passers.

that he would be an upgrade. fuck that guy. esp at 27 mil.

I’d rather keep Jones. I’m not sold on Jimmy G

should have 4 picks tonight. No thanks, I’d rather stick with Jones.

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after watching him look like complete shit tonight.

With a pass rush he falls apart. He's a JAG by NFL standards.

in a trade? Lol, no thanks, would rather just suck and keep collecting high picks.

Deshaun Watson. That's the only QB you part with draft capital for assuming his off the field stuff is sorted. Elite talent, young, and a definite franchise QB. To be clear, I'm not advocating this, it's the name that should be considered rather than Russ Wilson and Jimmy G. I'm all in on taking Oline oline and some more oline

We could debate what is and is not his fault while not moving the needle.

a QB that’s 5&1/2 years older than the current QB, marginally better, somewhat to slightly less mobile, and about $10M more than the current QB, for a rebuilding and cap-strapped team?

Yeah, That's a big no

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Yeah, That's a big no

I did. This was posted before his poor performance against a solid team though.

While he had a bad game, he is still an upgrade over jones...

Again...it was a discussion not a situation where i 100% want it.

but not enough to give up picks and take on a $27m cap it for. Only way out of that is extending him, and no thanks there. If we are trading for a QB it needs to be for a difference maker otherwise just sign a vet/draft a QB and let it be settled in camp.

but as others have mentioned, when you factor in contract, age, and all that, you stick with Jones.

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With a pass rush he falls apart. He's a JAG by NFL standards.

100% right. He's a low end JAG. I'm ok with him as a stopgap, nothing more. You don't give a lot and you don't pay a lot.

San Francisco turned down an offer of a 2nd round pick for Jimmy in the offseason, they wanted a 1st. Despite his struggles last night I doubt they would settle for a 3rd and a backup QB.

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With a pass rush he falls apart. He's a JAG by NFL standards.

And he was usually getting a lot more time then Jones has. And he has better receivers. No thanks.

beat JG and a 49r team needing to win.

Yet another example of how good coaching gets the best out of players and how the Giants have shit coaches.

If the Giants keep the current coaching staff it doesn't matter who they trade for/pick up at any position.

At all. Fine with him competing with Jones but not at big salary. Jimmy G would get sacked 90 times behind our shit line. He stinks in an offense that runs for 200 yards a game no matter which back is behind him.

not his pro rated bonus. So 25 Million or so. 2022 is final year of his contract. Wouldn't do it unless he converted 21 Million to bonus and extended for two years at 15/per reducing 2022 cap hit by 14 Million and it only cost us a third.

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San Francisco turned down an offer of a 2nd round pick for Jimmy in the offseason, they wanted a 1st. Despite his struggles last night I doubt they would settle for a 3rd and a backup QB.

I wouldn't even give that up for him. When they're ready to move on to Lance, they'll have to cut JG. Sign him then if you need to, I wouldn't give up anything of value.

when we already have Jones?

Now Mariota or Headley would be interesting, but the Giants would likely try to mold them into Eli.

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In comment 15509563 Peppers said: Quote: San Francisco turned down an offer of a 2nd round pick for Jimmy in the offseason, they wanted a 1st. Despite his struggles last night I doubt they would settle for a 3rd and a backup QB. I wouldn't even give that up for him. When they're ready to move on to Lance, they'll have to cut JG. Sign him then if you need to, I wouldn't give up anything of value.

This!

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he isnt brady but he is a much more established QB than jones....

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He is so bad that his coach is afraid to try to score at the end of the half because JG may turn over the ball. He is terrible.

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In comment 15509644 gidiefor said: Quote: ? he isnt brady but he is a much more established QB than jones....

What is he with Engram blocking for him instead of Kittle?

if reasonable I'd bring him in. Jones needs some type of competition for the starting job.

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In comment 15509563 Peppers said: Quote: San Francisco turned down an offer of a 2nd round pick for Jimmy in the offseason, they wanted a 1st. Despite his struggles last night I doubt they would settle for a 3rd and a backup QB. I wouldn't even give that up for him. When they're ready to move on to Lance, they'll have to cut JG. Sign him then if you need to, I wouldn't give up anything of value.

Well, fortunately for San Francisco there are NFL teams who understand the value of a starting QB and there are more teams than just NYG looking for one.. So they won't "have to cut him". It's supply and demand. They'll most likely get a 2nd in 2022 and a conditional pick in 2023.

He and Tom Quinn can star in some buddy comedies.