He was nonexistent today and was no factor at all in the game. I also think Ridder hurt his stock for the draft with his game today vs Bama. Does not bode well having 4 passes deflected at the line of scrimmage vs a Bama squad that really did not play that well
I don't watch a lot of B10 football, so take this w/ a grain of salt:
I don't think Hutchinson was even in the top 5 of defensive players on the field tonight. Based on this very small sample size I would be alarmed if the Giants drafted him early.
But he’s a steal at 5. One game doesn’t erase the season he’s had.
This is actually a spot-on-take. The best thing that would happen is if today's game lowers his stock in the draft so that he's available with our first pick.
Loved how the LB's played for the Dawgs last night. Dean's speed is special.
Also liked how John Ross played for Michigan.
Hutchinson is going to be one of the first 3 picks in the draft unfortunately for the Giants.
He did not help himself and was basically a non-factor in the biggest game. Seems his biggest play was sniffing out the bubble screen and making the tackle.
He looked slow to me, also. With that I think I'd jump Jermaine Johnson over him...(ok flame away).
The explanation was that there isn't a #1 overall type prospect in this year's draft and so need will dictate.
The PFN mock draft simulator has shifted its algorithm -- I've run sims compulsively for weeks and suddenly, starting a few days ago, about half the time Thibs and Hutchinson are BOTH on the board when the Giants pick, and Neal is going #1 about half the time.
Hard to believe both those guys will be available when the Giants are on the clock.
Regarding Hutchinson, I remember having the same doubts about Chase Young after a game where he didn't make a big impact. Maybe this game hurts his draft stock — but maybe not.
He’s not an edge not at all. Not even close to what an edge should be. No bend he’s strictly a power rusher. It won’t work well in the nfl. When he lines up inside and shoots a gap he’s a stud. He did it a few times last night snd got immediate disruption in the backfield. In the Nfl he should be a smaller 5 tech playing one gap. Similar to what JJ watt has done his whole career. He would be excellent and now he’s 270. He can easily get into the 280s.
It’s a similar concept of using neal inside. In college he an get away with playing tackle but he’s too often off balance and doesn’t carry his weight and size in the same way Becton does. Neal moves like a guard playing tackle. He should be moved inside and he’ll be an all pro. I still like Kenyon green more for some reason. Looks to be more of a bully and play with more power
Loved how the LB's played for the Dawgs last night. Dean's speed is special.
Also liked how John Ross played for Michigan.
Hutchinson is going to be one of the first 3 picks in the draft unfortunately for the Giants.
kinda weird comment, no? Ojabo is universally considered the lower prospect of the two and despite not having a very productive game he did seem to be more effective than Hutch. Including one hit on the QB very quickly of the line.
Quote: But he’s a steal at 5. One game doesn’t erase the season he’s had.//////
This is actually a spot-on-take. The best thing that would happen is if today's game lowers his stock in the draft so that he's available with our first pick.
montana, you have a whole lot more football smarts than I have, I give you that. But even going back to the OSU game early December, I was not wowed: I didn't see much explosion/impact against OL, didn't see a really quick twitchy first step, nor extra athleticism. He's a nice player, sure, but to my eyes he's not a top 15 pick. All fwiw and I know won't be a popular take. But it might jibe with his lack of production last night.
Quote: But he’s a steal at 5. One game doesn’t erase the season he’s had.//////
This is actually a spot-on-take. The best thing that would happen is if today's game lowers his stock in the draft so that he's available with our first pick.
montana, you have a whole lot more football smarts than I have, I give you that. But even going back to the OSU game early December, I was not wowed: I didn't see much explosion/impact against OL, didn't see a really quick twitchy first step, nor extra athleticism. He's a nice player, sure, but to my eyes he's not a top 15 pick. All fwiw and I know won't be a popular take. But it might jibe with his lack of production last night.
You thought he was unimpressive in the OSU game? He was a monster in that game, abused their NFL OT’s all game.
I don't know where he is going in the first round, but he will be selected IN the first round.
He will be the 1st LB off the board and FWIW, he has been my pick for the Giants since we all started talking about the draft. Ideal would be Cross and Dean in the 1st round. However, for that to have a chance of happening, Chicago cannot beat the Vikings next week and the Giants can’t beat Washington.
You thought he was unimpressive in the OSU game? He was a monster in that game, abused their NFL OT’s all game.
Names, he had a productive game, sure, I just expected more. People here were making Bosa comparisons: I just did not see that in him. I saw a lot of length but not explosion and power to go with that.
I agree he looked like someone looking not to get hurt on a few plays. There are way better choices if he falls to us. We will see how Dean does in the rematch against Bama. He is a good looking prospect. Add him and the Iowa center would be a good first round.
I can remember watching Michigan 2 years ago and Hutchinson jumped off the screen. This kid has gotten better and better each year. He is an elite talent. I think he is a scheme fit although it could be argued that Ojabu is more OLB than DE.
For those of you who think one game makes Hutchinson drop, you are high.
this draft is void of blue chippers and stocked more with "purple" chips.
Hutch is a very good player, but I don't see elite skills. He didn't play particularly well last night, but no one did for that UM D.
Ojabo was awful. I'm not sure he had a tackle...? If I'm him, I'm seriously considering going back to Ann Arbor and improving my game.
Hell, I think Thibodeaux is more physically talented than Hutch, but he's too inconsistent and disappears too much for my tastes.
The three best defensive players I have seen this year are: Dean, Lloyd and McCreary. I'd take either Lloyd or Dean to fill a three down/multiple LB role. They are outstanding.
Hutchinson getting past the Lions. Dean looked impressive before but really stepped up and played well and MLB is a need.
Hutchinson to the Lions is about 99.9% likely to happen, provided Detroit is picking in the top 2. His draft stock didn't drop much, maybe from #1 to #3 at most
Jets and Jags are possibles for going with a pass rusher but they both have equally urgent needs on the OL, Jets need to be really worried about Becton long term from what I’m hearing there. Jags are pretty much lock to go OT.
I think Jets are likely to go with a secondary player with their 2nd 1st rounder.
The guy’s entire team was outmatched. It’s tough to singlehandedly rise up and win the game when the other 21 starters are outmatched.
I wasn’t paying attention to this part but not sure if he was double teamed a lot. I remember Chase Young had like 15 sacks through 8 games and then teams were like “okay whoever’s gonna beat us its not gonna be THIS guy” and they literally started double and even triple teaming him on every play— low and behold he barely got any more sacks (although still got pressured, amazingly). Most casual fans on this board only saw the last couple games he played (and none of the prior games) and there were a lot of posts saying “Chase Young is overrated he’s not even good” etc. But being double and triple teamed obviously is an effect on the game in its own right and frees up other guys to make plays. In the end it obviously didn’t affect his draft value at all. And as much as I think ESPN overrated his rookie season performance I still believe he was a phenomenal young NFL player up until he got injured this year.
But idk I would have to go back and watch again— not sure that applies to Hutchinson here.
He’s not an edge not at all. Not even close to what an edge should be. No bend he’s strictly a power rusher. It won’t work well in the nfl. When he lines up inside and shoots a gap he’s a stud. He did it a few times last night snd got immediate disruption in the backfield. In the Nfl he should be a smaller 5 tech playing one gap. Similar to what JJ watt has done his whole career. He would be excellent and now he’s 270. He can easily get into the 280s.
It’s a similar concept of using neal inside. In college he an get away with playing tackle but he’s too often off balance and doesn’t carry his weight and size in the same way Becton does. Neal moves like a guard playing tackle. He should be moved inside and he’ll be an all pro. I still like Kenyon green more for some reason. Looks to be more of a bully and play with more power
Hard to pin down their interest in a true 1st tier ER without inside rehab info on Carl Lawson. Lawson was the real deal as far as an ER who consistently moved a QB off his spot and was not a disaster as a POA run defender. Cap hit of 15 mil for 2022 and is actually worse if he is released.
Doubt that Jets have a big interest in AH as they just locked up a complete LDE for a few years.
Roquon smith is the same size so is Devin Bush. When he’s allowed to roam free and not take on blockers he’s a beast. Having Jordan davis helps a lot. It’s hard to project what he’d be in anything but a 3-4 scheme. I think he fits the giants perfectly and fits what Graham wants to do. Him alongside Blake would be an incredible duo. It’s fully consider Dean with the Bears pick in round 1
Dean is super smart but man he's small. I'd pick Lloyd first.
Dean can really move laterally. That play last night where he followed the Edward/RB in motion and raced from the weak side to the strong side to tackle that Edwards on the swing pass was impressive.
But I'm a Lloyd guy, too. Looking forward to seeing him today against OSU in the Rose Bowl. OSU has a good OL that can get to the next level. So, he'll be tested.
Dean is super smart but man he's small. I'd pick Lloyd first.
Dean can really move laterally. That play last night where he followed the Edward/RB in motion and raced from the weak side to the strong side to tackle that Edwards on the swing pass was impressive.
But I'm a Lloyd guy, too. Looking forward to seeing him today against OSU in the Rose Bowl. OSU has a good OL that can get to the next level. So, he'll be tested.
And Day is a great play-caller. So, I wouldn't be surprised if he tests Lloyd in the passing game.
RE: RE: I saw a mock draft with Neal going #1 overall to Jacksonville
The explanation was that there isn't a #1 overall type prospect in this year's draft and so need will dictate.
The PFN mock draft simulator has shifted its algorithm -- I've run sims compulsively for weeks and suddenly, starting a few days ago, about half the time Thibs and Hutchinson are BOTH on the board when the Giants pick, and Neal is going #1 about half the time.
Hard to believe both those guys will be available when the Giants are on the clock.
Regarding Hutchinson, I remember having the same doubts about Chase Young after a game where he didn't make a big impact. Maybe this game hurts his draft stock — but maybe not.
I've been getting Neal a lot. Plus at times Thib and Hutchinson come up too. Thib came up a few times while he never ever came up before.
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As others have indicated he'd be a terrific get. I wouldn't put too much stock in this game. Michigan was overmatched. One player isn't going to do shit.
this draft is void of blue chippers and stocked more with "purple" chips.
Hutch is a very good player, but I don't see elite skills. He didn't play particularly well last night, but no one did for that UM D.
Ojabo was awful. I'm not sure he had a tackle...? If I'm him, I'm seriously considering going back to Ann Arbor and improving my game.
Hell, I think Thibodeaux is more physically talented than Hutch, but he's too inconsistent and disappears too much for my tastes.
The three best defensive players I have seen this year are: Dean, Lloyd and McCreary. I'd take either Lloyd or Dean to fill a three down/multiple LB role. They are outstanding.
So I guess passing on a couple of All-Pros (Slater, Parsons) at positions of need last year for an extra 1st Rounder in an inferior draft class this year wasn't a brilliant tactical move?
RE: He was the best player on the field last night
this draft is void of blue chippers and stocked more with "purple" chips.
Hutch is a very good player, but I don't see elite skills. He didn't play particularly well last night, but no one did for that UM D.
Ojabo was awful. I'm not sure he had a tackle...? If I'm him, I'm seriously considering going back to Ann Arbor and improving my game.
Hell, I think Thibodeaux is more physically talented than Hutch, but he's too inconsistent and disappears too much for my tastes.
The three best defensive players I have seen this year are: Dean, Lloyd and McCreary. I'd take either Lloyd or Dean to fill a three down/multiple LB role. They are outstanding.
So I guess passing on a couple of All-Pros (Slater, Parsons) at positions of need last year for an extra 1st Rounder in an inferior draft class this year wasn't a brilliant tactical move?
I don’t think this is an inferior draft class at all. In fact I think it’s a deep loaded one, with so many players staying in school after last season and taking a “Covid” year.
As others have indicated he'd be a terrific get. I wouldn't put too much stock in this game. Michigan was overmatched. One player isn't going to do shit.
He was up against Jamaree Salyer who is a monster LT that is finally healthy. He had been playing with a bad wheel.
Georgia’s plan was to not let Hutchinson affect the game, ojabo needed to step up and was invisible. 2nd half I believe both made business decisions not to injure themselves out of the 1st round. Tough to tell on Georgia he is really superior, since a team can’t isolate against any one player on that D, leaving a lot of 1 on 1 s where some one each week will excel facing inferior competition. For this game, Dean got to work without interference.
The Georgia-Michigan rout told me a lot more about Bryce Young
Dean is super smart but man he's small. I'd pick Lloyd first.
Dean can really move laterally. That play last night where he followed the Edward/RB in motion and raced from the weak side to the strong side to tackle that Edwards on the swing pass was impressive.
But I'm a Lloyd guy, too. Looking forward to seeing him today against OSU in the Rose Bowl. OSU has a good OL that can get to the next level. So, he'll be tested.
Lloyd is a destructive force. Still 3+ months to go, but I'm not bug of drafting an ILB in the top 10.
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Away from Hutch.
But I didn't watch even half the game.
As others have indicated he'd be a terrific get. I wouldn't put too much stock in this game. Michigan was overmatched. One player isn't going to do shit.
He was up against Jamaree Salyer who is a monster LT that is finally healthy. He had been playing with a bad wheel.
Hutch had zero stats in the 2nd half.
They ran at Hutch?
Because what I was seeing they went away from him a lot.
I only saw the one series in the 2nd half when Grey (or Gray) teh secondary guy from Michigan completely botched the play and Ga got a TD. AT that point I figured it was college football vs high school so I turned the channel. And I didn't see al the 1st half.
There was one play I saw Saylor completely flatten Hutch. One play I saw Hutch blow by him with ease (maybe it was the TE - but I don't think so). Other than that it seemed like Ga. went away from him- so how much impact was Saylor having?
There's not a lot of pass rushing opportunities when the other team is up 17-0 with 12+ minutes left in the 2nd quarter.
This is actually a spot-on-take. The best thing that would happen is if today's game lowers his stock in the draft so that he's available with our first pick.
Also liked how John Ross played for Michigan.
Hutchinson is going to be one of the first 3 picks in the draft unfortunately for the Giants.
THAT guy was all over the field last night!
7 Tackles
2 TFL
1 Sack
I don't know where he is going in the first round, but he will be selected IN the first round.
THAT guy was all over the field last night!
7 Tackles
2 TFL
1 Sack
I don't know where he is going in the first round, but he will be selected IN the first round.
Reminded me of Roquan Smith..
He looked slow to me, also. With that I think I'd jump Jermaine Johnson over him...(ok flame away).
THAT guy was all over the field last night!
7 Tackles
2 TFL
1 Sack
I don't know where he is going in the first round, but he will be selected IN the first round.
He would be a great 2nd pick in the first round. Use our first on OL then take him at whatever the Bears pick ends up at
Hard to believe both those guys will be available when the Giants are on the clock.
Regarding Hutchinson, I remember having the same doubts about Chase Young after a game where he didn't make a big impact. Maybe this game hurts his draft stock — but maybe not.
It’s a similar concept of using neal inside. In college he an get away with playing tackle but he’s too often off balance and doesn’t carry his weight and size in the same way Becton does. Neal moves like a guard playing tackle. He should be moved inside and he’ll be an all pro. I still like Kenyon green more for some reason. Looks to be more of a bully and play with more power
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THAT guy was all over the field last night!
7 Tackles
2 TFL
1 Sack
I don't know where he is going in the first round, but he will be selected IN the first round.
He would be a great 2nd pick in the first round. Use our first on OL then take him at whatever the Bears pick ends up at
If we don’t see an OL worth our top pick, I wouldn’t be at all unhappy with Hamilton and Dean as our top two picks.
Work some cap space and get some OL help in FA and then hopefully more on day two of the draft.
As for the draft, more will be revealed in the weeks to come.
Also liked how John Ross played for Michigan.
Hutchinson is going to be one of the first 3 picks in the draft unfortunately for the Giants.
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This is actually a spot-on-take. The best thing that would happen is if today's game lowers his stock in the draft so that he's available with our first pick.
The linebacker Dean on Georgia looks like a star. Good range, speed, pass rushing, third down impact. I would draft him in a NY minute.
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Quote: But he’s a steal at 5. One game doesn’t erase the season he’s had.//////
This is actually a spot-on-take. The best thing that would happen is if today's game lowers his stock in the draft so that he's available with our first pick.
montana, you have a whole lot more football smarts than I have, I give you that. But even going back to the OSU game early December, I was not wowed: I didn't see much explosion/impact against OL, didn't see a really quick twitchy first step, nor extra athleticism. He's a nice player, sure, but to my eyes he's not a top 15 pick. All fwiw and I know won't be a popular take. But it might jibe with his lack of production last night.
You thought he was unimpressive in the OSU game? He was a monster in that game, abused their NFL OT’s all game.
THAT guy was all over the field last night!
7 Tackles
2 TFL
1 Sack
I don't know where he is going in the first round, but he will be selected IN the first round.
He will be the 1st LB off the board and FWIW, he has been my pick for the Giants since we all started talking about the draft. Ideal would be Cross and Dean in the 1st round. However, for that to have a chance of happening, Chicago cannot beat the Vikings next week and the Giants can’t beat Washington.
I watched Quentin Nelson get his ass kicked by Rocky McIntosh in a game. How’s that working out for both of them??
On second thought, Hutch embarrassed himself last night and should drop to the Giants pick as punishment.
For those of you who think one game makes Hutchinson drop, you are high.
Hutch is a very good player, but I don't see elite skills. He didn't play particularly well last night, but no one did for that UM D.
Ojabo was awful. I'm not sure he had a tackle...? If I'm him, I'm seriously considering going back to Ann Arbor and improving my game.
Hell, I think Thibodeaux is more physically talented than Hutch, but he's too inconsistent and disappears too much for my tastes.
The three best defensive players I have seen this year are: Dean, Lloyd and McCreary. I'd take either Lloyd or Dean to fill a three down/multiple LB role. They are outstanding.
Hutchinson to the Lions is about 99.9% likely to happen, provided Detroit is picking in the top 2. His draft stock didn't drop much, maybe from #1 to #3 at most
I think Jets are likely to go with a secondary player with their 2nd 1st rounder.
I wasn’t paying attention to this part but not sure if he was double teamed a lot. I remember Chase Young had like 15 sacks through 8 games and then teams were like “okay whoever’s gonna beat us its not gonna be THIS guy” and they literally started double and even triple teaming him on every play— low and behold he barely got any more sacks (although still got pressured, amazingly). Most casual fans on this board only saw the last couple games he played (and none of the prior games) and there were a lot of posts saying “Chase Young is overrated he’s not even good” etc. But being double and triple teamed obviously is an effect on the game in its own right and frees up other guys to make plays. In the end it obviously didn’t affect his draft value at all. And as much as I think ESPN overrated his rookie season performance I still believe he was a phenomenal young NFL player up until he got injured this year.
But idk I would have to go back and watch again— not sure that applies to Hutchinson here.
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THAT guy was all over the field last night!
7 Tackles
2 TFL
1 Sack
I don't know where he is going in the first round, but he will be selected IN the first round.
Reminded me of Roquan Smith..
Agreed. Dean's sideline to sideline speed was fantastic. He should be considered with one of our first round picks.
It’s a similar concept of using neal inside. In college he an get away with playing tackle but he’s too often off balance and doesn’t carry his weight and size in the same way Becton does. Neal moves like a guard playing tackle. He should be moved inside and he’ll be an all pro. I still like Kenyon green more for some reason. Looks to be more of a bully and play with more power
Excellent analysis.
Hard to pin down their interest in a true 1st tier ER without inside rehab info on Carl Lawson. Lawson was the real deal as far as an ER who consistently moved a QB off his spot and was not a disaster as a POA run defender. Cap hit of 15 mil for 2022 and is actually worse if he is released.
Doubt that Jets have a big interest in AH as they just locked up a complete LDE for a few years.
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THAT guy was all over the field last night!
7 Tackles
2 TFL
1 Sack
I don't know where he is going in the first round, but he will be selected IN the first round.
Reminded me of Roquan Smith..
Agreed. Dean's sideline to sideline speed was fantastic. He should be considered with one of our first round picks.
I think he will be, especially if JJ is back and his ties to UGA.
Even if Judge isn’t back, Dean has to be in play with one of our two picks. He’s exactly the type player we are missing and desperately need.
Easy to see him as our Roqoun Smith/ Devin White on this D.
Dean can really move laterally. That play last night where he followed the Edward/RB in motion and raced from the weak side to the strong side to tackle that Edwards on the swing pass was impressive.
But I'm a Lloyd guy, too. Looking forward to seeing him today against OSU in the Rose Bowl. OSU has a good OL that can get to the next level. So, he'll be tested.
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Dean is super smart but man he's small. I'd pick Lloyd first.
Dean can really move laterally. That play last night where he followed the Edward/RB in motion and raced from the weak side to the strong side to tackle that Edwards on the swing pass was impressive.
But I'm a Lloyd guy, too. Looking forward to seeing him today against OSU in the Rose Bowl. OSU has a good OL that can get to the next level. So, he'll be tested.
And Day is a great play-caller. So, I wouldn't be surprised if he tests Lloyd in the passing game.
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The explanation was that there isn't a #1 overall type prospect in this year's draft and so need will dictate.
The PFN mock draft simulator has shifted its algorithm -- I've run sims compulsively for weeks and suddenly, starting a few days ago, about half the time Thibs and Hutchinson are BOTH on the board when the Giants pick, and Neal is going #1 about half the time.
Hard to believe both those guys will be available when the Giants are on the clock.
Regarding Hutchinson, I remember having the same doubts about Chase Young after a game where he didn't make a big impact. Maybe this game hurts his draft stock — but maybe not.
I've been getting Neal a lot. Plus at times Thib and Hutchinson come up too. Thib came up a few times while he never ever came up before.
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But I didn't watch even half the game.
As others have indicated he'd be a terrific get. I wouldn't put too much stock in this game. Michigan was overmatched. One player isn't going to do shit.
Hutch is a very good player, but I don't see elite skills. He didn't play particularly well last night, but no one did for that UM D.
Ojabo was awful. I'm not sure he had a tackle...? If I'm him, I'm seriously considering going back to Ann Arbor and improving my game.
Hell, I think Thibodeaux is more physically talented than Hutch, but he's too inconsistent and disappears too much for my tastes.
The three best defensive players I have seen this year are: Dean, Lloyd and McCreary. I'd take either Lloyd or Dean to fill a three down/multiple LB role. They are outstanding.
So I guess passing on a couple of All-Pros (Slater, Parsons) at positions of need last year for an extra 1st Rounder in an inferior draft class this year wasn't a brilliant tactical move?
Bingo.
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this draft is void of blue chippers and stocked more with "purple" chips.
Hutch is a very good player, but I don't see elite skills. He didn't play particularly well last night, but no one did for that UM D.
Ojabo was awful. I'm not sure he had a tackle...? If I'm him, I'm seriously considering going back to Ann Arbor and improving my game.
Hell, I think Thibodeaux is more physically talented than Hutch, but he's too inconsistent and disappears too much for my tastes.
The three best defensive players I have seen this year are: Dean, Lloyd and McCreary. I'd take either Lloyd or Dean to fill a three down/multiple LB role. They are outstanding.
So I guess passing on a couple of All-Pros (Slater, Parsons) at positions of need last year for an extra 1st Rounder in an inferior draft class this year wasn't a brilliant tactical move?
I don’t think this is an inferior draft class at all. In fact I think it’s a deep loaded one, with so many players staying in school after last season and taking a “Covid” year.
But I didn't watch even half the game.
As others have indicated he'd be a terrific get. I wouldn't put too much stock in this game. Michigan was overmatched. One player isn't going to do shit.
He was up against Jamaree Salyer who is a monster LT that is finally healthy. He had been playing with a bad wheel.
Hutch had zero stats in the 2nd half.
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Dean is super smart but man he's small. I'd pick Lloyd first.
Dean can really move laterally. That play last night where he followed the Edward/RB in motion and raced from the weak side to the strong side to tackle that Edwards on the swing pass was impressive.
But I'm a Lloyd guy, too. Looking forward to seeing him today against OSU in the Rose Bowl. OSU has a good OL that can get to the next level. So, he'll be tested.
Lloyd is a destructive force. Still 3+ months to go, but I'm not bug of drafting an ILB in the top 10.
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Away from Hutch.
But I didn't watch even half the game.
As others have indicated he'd be a terrific get. I wouldn't put too much stock in this game. Michigan was overmatched. One player isn't going to do shit.
He was up against Jamaree Salyer who is a monster LT that is finally healthy. He had been playing with a bad wheel.
Hutch had zero stats in the 2nd half.
They ran at Hutch?
Because what I was seeing they went away from him a lot.
I only saw the one series in the 2nd half when Grey (or Gray) teh secondary guy from Michigan completely botched the play and Ga got a TD. AT that point I figured it was college football vs high school so I turned the channel. And I didn't see al the 1st half.
There was one play I saw Saylor completely flatten Hutch. One play I saw Hutch blow by him with ease (maybe it was the TE - but I don't think so). Other than that it seemed like Ga. went away from him- so how much impact was Saylor having?
By the way, Saylor is about 170 ranked in PFN.