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I see Dave Gettleman’s administration looking a lot better

GiantsFan42 : 1/8/2022 11:05 am
Five years from now

Like him or not the talent is there and he found the QB in Daniel.

It’s sad his plan never got a chance to be executed. I truly believe he was going to draft two stud OL in this years draft and then the Oline would be fixed (hog mollies) and Saquon, Daniel, and, KT will show just how special they are.

Next year when the Giants are in the playoffs a lot of you will be thanking Uncle Dave.
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Del.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/8/2022 1:37 pm : link
This has to be Mrs. Gettleman. FIVE PLAYERS ON THIS ROSTER WHO WILL HAVE THEIR #S RETIRED? Either this is epic trolling or GiantsFan42 is doing peyote each morning when he wakes up.
RE: RE: Worst GM in Giants history.  
clatterbuck : 1/8/2022 1:41 pm : link
In comment 15535669 EricJ said:
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In comment 15535546 Dave in Hoboken said:


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Only thing we'll be thankful is that Mr. MaGoo is finally gone. Take the dumbasses on here who thought he was a good GM with him, too.



Not saying he has not been horrible, but if you think he is the worst in our history, then you must be a young guy. When the Maras were the GM back in the 60's-70's, it was much worse.

Imagine having the following people in your organization and letting them go...

Vince Lombardi
Tom Landry
Fran Tarkenton
Sam Huff

The there is Bill Belichick but that blame has to go to George Young.

This era is probably a close second to what Giants fans dealt with from the early 60's through the late 70s


It would have been very difficult to keep either Landry or Lombardi, impossible to retain both. Timing was just not right. IIRC, Giants would have had to fire it's successful head coach Jim Lee Howell to keep either one of them. They both left in 1959. Howell retired after 1960 season.

As far as Tarkenton, imo, Wellington Mara made a huge mistake in trading for Tarkenton in the first place. And Tarkenton became such a pain-in-the-ass prima donna that he essentially forced a trade back to the Vikings.

Huff is another story. The infamous trade after the 1963 season contributed to the collapse of the team in 1964 which marked the end of the Glory Years and the beginning of the awful era that only ended after Pete Rozell's intervention and the hiring of George Young.
RE: RE: Worst GM in Giants history.  
clatterbuck : 1/8/2022 1:41 pm : link
In comment 15535669 EricJ said:
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In comment 15535546 Dave in Hoboken said:


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Only thing we'll be thankful is that Mr. MaGoo is finally gone. Take the dumbasses on here who thought he was a good GM with him, too.



Not saying he has not been horrible, but if you think he is the worst in our history, then you must be a young guy. When the Maras were the GM back in the 60's-70's, it was much worse.

Imagine having the following people in your organization and letting them go...

Vince Lombardi
Tom Landry
Fran Tarkenton
Sam Huff

The there is Bill Belichick but that blame has to go to George Young.

This era is probably a close second to what Giants fans dealt with from the early 60's through the late 70s


It would have been very difficult to keep either Landry or Lombardi, impossible to retain both. Timing was just not right. IIRC, Giants would have had to fire it's successful head coach Jim Lee Howell to keep either one of them. They both left in 1959. Howell retired after 1960 season.

As far as Tarkenton, imo, Wellington Mara made a huge mistake in trading for Tarkenton in the first place. And Tarkenton became such a pain-in-the-ass prima donna that he essentially forced a trade back to the Vikings.

Huff is another story. The infamous trade after the 1963 season contributed to the collapse of the team in 1964 which marked the end of the Glory Years and the beginning of the awful era that only ended after Pete Rozell's intervention and the hiring of George Young.
RE: Del.  
GiantsFan42 : 1/8/2022 1:48 pm : link
In comment 15535755 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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This has to be Mrs. Gettleman. FIVE PLAYERS ON THIS ROSTER WHO WILL HAVE THEIR #S RETIRED? Either this is epic trolling or GiantsFan42 is doing peyote each morning when he wakes up.


8, 26, 78, 29, 51, and probably 89
RE: RE: Del.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/8/2022 1:53 pm : link
In comment 15535773 GiantsFan42 said:
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In comment 15535755 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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This has to be Mrs. Gettleman. FIVE PLAYERS ON THIS ROSTER WHO WILL HAVE THEIR #S RETIRED? Either this is epic trolling or GiantsFan42 is doing peyote each morning when he wakes up.



8, 26, 78, 29, 51, and probably 89


Can this dude be banned already?
RE: RE: RE: Del.  
GiantsFan42 : 1/8/2022 1:57 pm : link
In comment 15535782 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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In comment 15535773 GiantsFan42 said:


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In comment 15535755 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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This has to be Mrs. Gettleman. FIVE PLAYERS ON THIS ROSTER WHO WILL HAVE THEIR #S RETIRED? Either this is epic trolling or GiantsFan42 is doing peyote each morning when he wakes up.



8, 26, 78, 29, 51, and probably 89



Can this dude be banned already?


WHY because I am real Giants fan? I support the team and I support the Mara family. They’ve given me 4 Super Bowls.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/8/2022 1:58 pm : link
No. Because you're an obvious troll.
RE: RE: There are at least 5 players  
ColHowPepper : 1/8/2022 2:10 pm : link
In comment 15535751 Del Shofner said:
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In comment 15535642 GiantsFan42 said:
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On this roster drafted by DG who will have their numbers retired by the Giants/////

I think this confirms ==> troll.

There might be 5 players on this roster who will still be on the team in three years.
This same 'poster' started supportive thread on Petit last evening, confirming his credentials as troll and shill. One of the Mustang_Scout band, or whatever their twtr handle was
RE: RE: RE: Del.  
PakistanPete : 1/8/2022 2:33 pm : link
In comment 15535782 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Can this dude be banned already?


C'mon. You can't possibly be that big of a pussy? :)
Not sure  
Blue92 : 1/8/2022 2:35 pm : link
If serious...
RE: I would not doubt this is a burner  
Joey in VA : 1/8/2022 2:54 pm : link
In comment 15535566 Sean said:
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There is another possible burner making the rounds on twitter (crusadersWR), linked profile below. Account claims that Abrams will get GM in order to keep the front office in tact (mainly due to Pettit & McDonnell). Link - ( New Window )
It has to be Tim McDonnell, he played WR at Holy Cross...the Crusaders.
One more year, one more year,  
Bavaro_the_Mafioso : 1/8/2022 2:56 pm : link
Uncle Dave's done, bud. Team is worse off now than when he arrived.
RE: RE: I would not doubt this is a burner  
Go Terps : 1/8/2022 2:56 pm : link
In comment 15535858 Joey in VA said:
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In comment 15535566 Sean said:


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There is another possible burner making the rounds on twitter (crusadersWR), linked profile below. Account claims that Abrams will get GM in order to keep the front office in tact (mainly due to Pettit & McDonnell). Link - ( New Window )

It has to be Tim McDonnell, he played WR at Holy Cross...the Crusaders.


So lame.

Tim if you're reading this - you all suck at your jobs, and the best thing for the Giants would be for your family to sell the team.
RE: RE: I would not doubt this is a burner  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/8/2022 2:58 pm : link
In comment 15535858 Joey in VA said:
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In comment 15535566 Sean said:


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There is another possible burner making the rounds on twitter (crusadersWR), linked profile below. Account claims that Abrams will get GM in order to keep the front office in tact (mainly due to Pettit & McDonnell). Link - ( New Window )

It has to be Tim McDonnell, he played WR at Holy Cross...the Crusaders.


Mass exodus if that happens.
After reading the OP, this is the first thought that came to mind  
bwitz : 1/8/2022 3:18 pm : link


What a clown.
I’m glad  
Les in TO : 1/8/2022 3:34 pm : link
To see Gettleman posts on this site! Hi Dave!
Gettleman never tried to build a viable pass rush as GM;  
Angel Eyes : 1/8/2022 3:39 pm : link
Tried to do it with big DTs when everyone knows a DT cannot consistently run down a quarterback or runner. Barely put anything into the OLBs with a 3-4 defense despite them being essential pieces to a 3-4.

Despite Gettleman being here for a good chunk of his career where a pass rush is essential to the Giants success, that part apparently slipped his mind.
Gettleman Brought in a Lot of Good Players  
OntheRoad : 1/8/2022 3:48 pm : link
alongside some misses.

I am of the philosophy that if one player fails, he is a bust. If everyone on a team fails, it is with the coaches.

Good players at all secondary positions plus depth. Three good DL. Two good LBs. Two good OL (Thomas and Gates).

5 players to the HoF  
Dave on the UWS : 1/8/2022 3:59 pm : link
LMAO, I spit my coffee out! One of the funniest, mist absurd comments I’ve ever seen here.
This twerp dies my even understand WHAT constitutes a HoF career. Humoring him for a second, Jones and Barkley have ALREADY put up a body of work that would be impossible to overcome. Tomas needed to be dominant from day 1 ( like Q. Nelson has been.). The very definition of “Troll”.
Five years is a long time  
kdog77 : 1/8/2022 3:59 pm : link
Here is the NY Giants 2016 roster: https://www.statscrew.com/football/roster/t-NYG/y-2016

How many are still in the NFL? There was only one player from the 2016 roster on the 2021 roster. It does not matter what you think of the quality of players on the current roster, the reality of the modern NFL is that most of the Giants players will be gone by 2023 and very few will still be in the NFL by 2026. DG will be judged by the performance of the teams during his time as GM.
Hahaha.. i think  
Festina Lente : 1/8/2022 4:54 pm : link
This might be the worst takeon BBI.
Troll Post  
giantstock : 1/8/2022 5:05 pm : link
From the OP.

Good riddance to him and his crew soon enough.
Most of you are too young to remember  
arniefez : 1/8/2022 5:31 pm : link
The Parcells vs Gibbs rivalry in the 80's. RFK was always packed and Washington was a very difficult place to play. The stadium literally used to rock. It was a great football atmosphere and this games were legendary.

During the beginning of one of those away games Parcells told Phil Simms they hate us so much here, that they like us.

I'm bringing this up because if you watch a game in Washington now the stadium even early in the season is 1/3 empty. Washington is 31st average capacity (65%).

Back in the 80's it was at least as difficult to get tickets to a Washington game as it was to get tickets to a Giants game. Now at least a 1/3 of the stadium is empty at every home game. The Washington fans hate the owner, they hate the new stadium and the team has been a loser for years.

In 2021 the Giants are at 90% of capacity which is 26th in the NFL. If you would have bet someone over the age of 50 that the Giants would only fill 90% of their Stadium you could have taken a lot of their money. The Giant fans hate the owner, they hate the new stadium and the team has been a loser for years.

IMO Mara/Tisch better be careful, they'll still keep collecting the TV money but they are a lot closer to 75% capacity than 100% especially if they think the season ticket holders won't stop paying for their tickets because they bought PSL's and keep Judge, Jones and promote Abrams. IMO that's going to prove to be a costly mistake.
RE: RE: I would not doubt this is a burner  
cosmicj : 1/8/2022 5:34 pm : link
In comment 15535858 Joey in VA said:
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In comment 15535566 Sean said:


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There is another possible burner making the rounds on twitter (crusadersWR), linked profile below. Account claims that Abrams will get GM in order to keep the front office in tact (mainly due to Pettit & McDonnell). Link - ( New Window )

It has to be Tim McDonnell, he played WR at Holy Cross...the Crusaders.


JFC. This has got to be a fake account, right?
Arnie  
cosmicj : 1/8/2022 5:36 pm : link
Really interesting post. Do you have an estimate of the revenues lost from MetLife being at 90%?
He probably traded more gold jackets  
V.I.G. : 1/8/2022 5:39 pm : link
Than he drafted
RE: Most of you are too young to remember  
ColHowPepper : 1/8/2022 5:56 pm : link
In comment 15536086 arniefez said:
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The Parcells vs Gibbs rivalry in the 80's. RFK was always packed and Washington was a very difficult place to play. The stadium literally used to rock. It was a great football atmosphere and this games were legendary...
Absolutely true.

And, again, for those too young to remember, the Redskins' OL were so powerful and rock solid (Russ Grimm, Joe Jacoby, Mark May, Jeff Bostic and George Starke)--they were called 'the Hogs' because of brute force and getting low in the dirt to move the DL. Epic.

Where do you think Gettleman came up with Hog Mollies? Only half of that was original to him. Too bad he failed epically on re-creating that line.

By the way, arnie, significant part of drop-off in WFT attendance is that, much like MetLife Stadium, FedEx Field is a drab, way beyond its prime, 3rd rate venue, as soon as it was built.
CH Pepper  
arniefez : 1/9/2022 11:30 am : link
I did mention that both fan bases hate the new stadiums. It's definitely part of the apathy but the W/L is a bigger part in my opinion.
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