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could we please stop the constant denigration of all things

plato : 1/8/2022 12:56 pm
Giant. We are supposed to be Giant fans not blood enemies. We all know how you feel about the “worst in giant “ history from ownership, players, administration, medical staff , trainers etc. I do think you are entitled to your opinions there are however better and less mean spirited, if not less viscous ways of expressing yourselves. You are talking about and to fellow human beings, so some respect is required.

Most of you i think are too young to remember Wellington Mara as GM, or Andy Robustelli as GM, or Alex Webster as HC, or Steve Owens last days as head coach. When you to refer to current people as “worst in history” you really have no personal knowledge of Giant history by which to make that judgement.

Many of you have turned BBI, a great example of sports private enterprise, into a foul, gutter reading fan form. Just try to raise the level a bit, act like true giant fans who criticize without stooping into the gutter to do so.

Times are changing with our team, maybe we could change a bit too.
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RE: RE: Fans can be upset…  
Chris in Philly : 1/8/2022 4:00 pm : link
In comment 15535908 Go Terps said:
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In comment 15535833 Chris in Philly said:


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Fans can protest. Fans can complain. Fans can do all those things. And the way this team is going, fans should do those things.

But the bloodlust displayed around here in recent days is childish and embarrassing. We used to live under the naive notion that Giants fans were somehow better than other teams’ fan. Smarter. Classier. That mirage has fully disappeared. It has looked like an Eagles gan group lately.





Congratulations on going full troll on an internet message board. It’s been quite a journey for you over the years. We’re proud of you.
CiP  
Go Terps : 1/8/2022 4:14 pm : link
You're going around telling people how to behave on a message board...maybe you shouldn't be talking to anyone about trolling.

Congrats on being one of the few remaining shills. It never occurred to me you might be Chris Mara.
Chris  
ryanmkeane : 1/8/2022 4:15 pm : link
no point in even having a conversation here anymore. Just drop it.
RE: CiP  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/8/2022 4:17 pm : link
In comment 15535993 Go Terps said:
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You're going around telling people how to behave on a message board...maybe you shouldn't be talking to anyone about trolling.

Congrats on being one of the few remaining shills. It never occurred to me you might be Chris Mara.


It's embarrassing as hell for them. Imagine sucking the ass of a franchise that has been awful for a decade with no end in sight and is at their worst right now? Hilariously sad.
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Go Terps : 1/8/2022 4:18 pm : link
When ryanmkeane is on your side...that has to be a "come to Jesus" moment for you.
RE: .  
Chris in Philly : 1/8/2022 4:20 pm : link
In comment 15536001 Go Terps said:
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When ryanmkeane is on your side...that has to be a "come to Jesus" moment for you.


You might want to take a look at the racists, goons, and mouth breathers serving as your bannermen these days before you throw shade at anyone else.
RE: CiP  
bw in dc : 1/8/2022 4:25 pm : link
In comment 15535993 Go Terps said:
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Congrats on being one of the few remaining shills. It never occurred to me you might be Chris Mara.


That was very funny.
 
christian : 1/8/2022 4:36 pm : link
There are a number of folks on this site who have genuine emotional ties to the team. Insulting the team is insulting something personal to them.
RE: …  
Producer : 1/8/2022 4:39 pm : link
In comment 15536022 christian said:
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There are a number of folks on this site who have genuine emotional ties to the team. Insulting the team is insulting something personal to them.


oh well.. time to grow up. Adults know how to compartmentalize stuff that offends them.
This board sucks  
uther99 : 1/8/2022 4:56 pm : link
Years ago, I criticized Jonathan Stewart in game. Maybe it was preseason, not sure. I was told im a suck ass poster by FMIC. Summarizes my opinion of this board
I have always hated the mob mentality  
Big Al : 1/8/2022 5:01 pm : link
but sometimes the mob is right.

I also hated posters telling other posters what they can and cannot say or the degree of venom they can use to say it.

RE: RE: .  
BrettNYG10 : 1/8/2022 5:15 pm : link
In comment 15536002 Chris in Philly said:
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In comment 15536001 Go Terps said:


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When ryanmkeane is on your side...that has to be a "come to Jesus" moment for you.



You might want to take a look at the racists, goons, and mouth breathers serving as your bannermen these days before you throw shade at anyone else.


What racists?
RE: I have always hated the mob mentality  
BrettNYG10 : 1/8/2022 5:19 pm : link
In comment 15536049 Big Al said:
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but sometimes the mob is right.

I also hated posters telling other posters what they can and cannot say or the degree of venom they can use to say it.


I'd much prefer to be posting about how Jones is an elite QB, the line was better than I ever expected, etc.

There's very little to be positive about. A few of the young defenders. Andrew Thomas. What else? It's frustrating.
My issue is this...  
John In CO : 1/8/2022 5:34 pm : link
While I understand all the negative feelings about the Giants, I really dont get what getting SO emotional about it does for people. Im at the point where, when the Giants lose, it bugs me for maybe 5-10 minutes....then I move on with my life. I mean...they stink...I get it...that point has been well established over the past few years. Besides, what will getting all hot and bothered over the performance of a football team that im not even a part of get me? What can I do about the fact that they stink? Stop watching, maybe? Other than that, not a lot. Worrying about things that you have no control over is just a waste of energy.
RE: My issue is this...  
giantstock : 1/8/2022 6:03 pm : link
In comment 15536088 John In CO said:
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While I understand all the negative feelings about the Giants, I really dont get what getting SO emotional about it does for people. Im at the point where, when the Giants lose, it bugs me for maybe 5-10 minutes....then I move on with my life. I mean...they stink...I get it...that point has been well established over the past few years. Besides, what will getting all hot and bothered over the performance of a football team that im not even a part of get me? What can I do about the fact that they stink? Stop watching, maybe? Other than that, not a lot. Worrying about things that you have no control over is just a waste of energy.


Your point is valid.

But for you- you've stopped listening. It's easy to do what you say when you stop.

What if you don't stop listening?

RE: Stop pretending to be offended  
River Mike : 1/8/2022 8:04 pm : link
In comment 15535928 MtDizzle said:
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This fan base has become enraged and fed up. Rightfully so! The next step is apathy, is that what you want?


I can't imagine how you could possibly misunderstand more.
Yes fans are upset, fed up angry, no one is arguing against that. But some of us are saying that being upset can be communicated without the horrible insults and wishing people die. You say the alternative to wishing death to people is apathy. I think there is a lot of space between death wishes, name calling and apathy.
RE: This board sucks  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/8/2022 8:06 pm : link
In comment 15536040 uther99 said:
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Years ago, I criticized Jonathan Stewart in game. Maybe it was preseason, not sure. I was told im a suck ass poster by FMIC.


He did that to anyone that didn't think DG was as great and Parcells and George Young.
RE: I have always hated the mob mentality  
River Mike : 1/8/2022 8:08 pm : link
In comment 15536049 Big Al said:
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but sometimes the mob is right.

I also hated posters telling other posters what they can and cannot say or the degree of venom they can use to say it.


Al, I respect your opinions, but I haven't seen anyone tell posters what they "can and cannot say", only voicing an opinion that there is no need for the horrible insults, death wishes, etc., in order to make your feelings known. I think that our opinions deserve the same respect you would accord the "mob".
BBI  
UConn4523 : 1/8/2022 8:12 pm : link
is nothing more than the comments section of a divisive YouTube video. Angry trolls run this place.
RE: BBI  
christian : 1/8/2022 8:14 pm : link
In comment 15536384 UConn4523 said:
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is nothing more than the comments section of a divisive YouTube video. Angry trolls run this place.


You notice how many of your posts are about how much you don’t like the members, threads, and content of this site?
RE: RE: BBI  
UConn4523 : 1/8/2022 8:17 pm : link
In comment 15536387 christian said:
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In comment 15536384 UConn4523 said:


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is nothing more than the comments section of a divisive YouTube video. Angry trolls run this place.



You notice how many of your posts are about how much you don’t like the members, threads, and content of this site?


Yes.
It’s been a 4-5 win team for years, and many here have seen  
Jimmy Googs : 1/8/2022 8:19 pm : link
the reasons why and have questioned the moves only to be criticized by unsupported optimism from delusional posters.

Come on board now and bring objective and solid thoughts to the board. It makes for better conversation and leaves the grabass posters in limbo or leaving the site altogether...
RE: BBI  
Jimmy Googs : 1/8/2022 8:20 pm : link
In comment 15536384 UConn4523 said:
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is nothing more than the comments section of a divisive YouTube video. Angry trolls run this place.


You’re about done here...
RE: RE: This board sucks  
giantstock : 1/8/2022 8:21 pm : link
In comment 15536377 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 15536040 uther99 said:


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Years ago, I criticized Jonathan Stewart in game. Maybe it was preseason, not sure. I was told im a suck ass poster by FMIC.



He did that to anyone that didn't think DG was as great and Parcells and George Young.


And remember the line he gave when things were going down the toilet for Dg and he was accused of being his lapdog defender?

He said something like "I never defended Dave Gettleman."
RE: This board sucks  
Jimmy Googs : 1/8/2022 8:23 pm : link
In comment 15536040 uther99 said:
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Years ago, I criticized Jonathan Stewart in game. Maybe it was preseason, not sure. I was told im a suck ass poster by FMIC. Summarizes my opinion of this board


Me too.

But it really only summarized how chuckleheads like Fmic needed to post less and you needed to give your opinions more...
RE: RE: Stop pretending to be offended  
giantstock : 1/8/2022 8:23 pm : link
In comment 15536374 River Mike said:
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In comment 15535928 MtDizzle said:


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This fan base has become enraged and fed up. Rightfully so! The next step is apathy, is that what you want?



I can't imagine how you could possibly misunderstand more.
Yes fans are upset, fed up angry, no one is arguing against that. But some of us are saying that being upset can be communicated without the horrible insults and wishing people die. You say the alternative to wishing death to people is apathy. I think there is a lot of space between death wishes, name calling and apathy.


Who wished death?
RE: Fans can be upset…  
Jimmy Googs : 1/8/2022 8:26 pm : link
In comment 15535833 Chris in Philly said:
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Fans can protest. Fans can complain. Fans can do all those things. And the way this team is going, fans should do those things.

But the bloodlust displayed around here in recent days is childish and embarrassing. We used to live under the naive notion that Giants fans were somehow better than other teams’ fan. Smarter. Classier. That mirage has fully disappeared. It has looked like an Eagles gan group lately.


You are insufferable.

Haha, I always wanted to tell you that...
Googs  
ryanmkeane : 1/8/2022 8:35 pm : link
explain to me the “you’re about done here” post that was pointed at UConn? I mean honestly - tell me what’s going through your head? Are you the king of all things message board who tells people when they are “about done here?”

UConn has been a valuable poster to this board for years.
Don’t bother  
UConn4523 : 1/8/2022 8:37 pm : link
that troll lies and alters archived threads, isn’t worth the mud on my boot.
RE: Googs  
Jimmy Googs : 1/8/2022 8:43 pm : link
In comment 15536420 ryanmkeane said:
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explain to me the “you’re about done here” post that was pointed at UConn? I mean honestly - tell me what’s going through your head? Are you the king of all things message board who tells people when they are “about done here?”

UConn has been a valuable poster to this board for years.


He’s only interested in being condescending now. He has more horsepower than that but too often let’s his prior allegiances drive his words. It’s like a bad movie that needs a better script...
RE: RE: I have always hated the mob mentality  
Big Al : 1/8/2022 8:59 pm : link
In comment 15536379 River Mike said:
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In comment 15536049 Big Al said:


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but sometimes the mob is right.

I also hated posters telling other posters what they can and cannot say or the degree of venom they can use to say it.




Al, I respect your opinions, but I haven't seen anyone tell posters what they "can and cannot say", only voicing an opinion that there is no need for the horrible insults, death wishes, etc., in order to make your feelings known. I think that our opinions deserve the same respect you would accord the "mob".
Mike. I guess that I have always found the venom and insane rants and insults amusing. It tells me a lot about people who go deeply into the gutter. I found it part of the charm of this place. It was much worse years ago. I received threats from posters (Matt in Syracuse) and was once told by my buddy RockyThompson that “I was a child molester living in my mother’s basement”. I didn’t respond. Theoretically you should treat people with respect but I just don’t take this place serious enough to get too upset about that kind of stuff but that is just me and I can understand why it offends many. Being a huge free speech person, I tend to react when I see people being asked to censor themselves. My favored mode of response is sarcasm or silence. Stupidity offends me more than insults. Saying that I will say something apparently unpopular. I miss FMIC.
RE: RE: RE: I have always hated the mob mentality  
River Mike : 1/8/2022 9:08 pm : link
In comment 15536473 Big Al said:
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In comment 15536379 River Mike said:


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In comment 15536049 Big Al said:


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but sometimes the mob is right.

I also hated posters telling other posters what they can and cannot say or the degree of venom they can use to say it.




Al, I respect your opinions, but I haven't seen anyone tell posters what they "can and cannot say", only voicing an opinion that there is no need for the horrible insults, death wishes, etc., in order to make your feelings known. I think that our opinions deserve the same respect you would accord the "mob".

Mike. I guess that I have always found the venom and insane rants and insults amusing. It tells me a lot about people who go deeply into the gutter. I found it part of the charm of this place. It was much worse years ago. I received threats from posters (Matt in Syracuse) and was once told by my buddy RockyThompson that “I was a child molester living in my mother’s basement”. I didn’t respond. Theoretically you should treat people with respect but I just don’t take this place serious enough to get too upset about that kind of stuff but that is just me and I can understand why it offends many. Being a huge free speech person, I tend to react when I see people being asked to censor themselves. My favored mode of response is sarcasm or silence. Stupidity offends me more than insults. Saying that I will say something apparently unpopular. I miss FMIC.


LOL! I guess we agree on a few things here, and yes it does have potential to be amusing. Ah,fond memories of Matt in Syracuse and I too miss FMiC, He was acerbic and often insulting, though not to the levels I was posting about, and he was much more often right than not. I think my issue was not so much insults, but the level to which they had sunk, and the death wishes (I forgot who the poster was but they were directed at Gettleman). I am certainly no fan of DG, but some of the vitriolwas over the top IMHO. And I do realize it is just my opinion.
RE: RE: RE: .  
Go Terps : 1/8/2022 9:45 pm : link
In comment 15536062 BrettNYG10 said:
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In comment 15536002 Chris in Philly said:


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In comment 15536001 Go Terps said:


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When ryanmkeane is on your side...that has to be a "come to Jesus" moment for you.



You might want to take a look at the racists, goons, and mouth breathers serving as your bannermen these days before you throw shade at anyone else.



What racists?


Guess he doesn't have the balls to say...
RE: RE: RE: RE: .  
giantstock : 1/8/2022 9:59 pm : link
In comment 15536530 Go Terps said:
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In comment 15536062 BrettNYG10 said:


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What racists?



Guess he doesn't have the balls to say...


I guess he is one of those posters that when he doesn't like a subject he accuses others of anything that pops into his head.
 
christian : 1/8/2022 10:40 pm : link
I don’t understand why people who don’t enjoy interacting here do it. That’s some kind of masochism.

For those of us who have been here two plus decades, we can recall the pre-login days, the Strike Eagle days, the optimist/realist days, etc.

And through it all, despite some nasty people, some crazy people, the team being awesome and the team being terrible — this forum is successful when the members focus on debating football.

It’s not always sunshine, but BBI has been its best when it is real. If posting here is such a drag, maybe it’s time to pack it up.
Can't we all just get along?  
adamg : 1/8/2022 10:51 pm : link
CiP and UConn are among the best posters we have. Alienating them is like alienating what makes BBI have some kind of heart and soul. If we're just left with Googs, Terps, and bw... what are we but sad Giants fans who indulge in self-flagellation ultimately serving no purpose other than self-congratulations when we suck. That don't sound fun to me. Ya'll should apologize to CiP and UConn...
RE: Can't we all just get along?  
Go Terps : 1/8/2022 11:01 pm : link
In comment 15536629 adamg said:
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CiP and UConn are among the best posters we have. Alienating them is like alienating what makes BBI have some kind of heart and soul. If we're just left with Googs, Terps, and bw... what are we but sad Giants fans who indulge in self-flagellation ultimately serving no purpose other than self-congratulations when we suck. That don't sound fun to me. Ya'll should apologize to CiP and UConn...


I'm not sure what I've said that's so offensive. When the Giants were good, I was positive. When it became clear years ago that there were deep fundamental problems, I pointed out out. The things I pointed out have borne out and then some.

Does living in a fantasy world make one a better fan or poster?
RE: …  
bw in dc : 1/8/2022 11:09 pm : link
In comment 15536618 christian said:
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I don’t understand why people who don’t enjoy interacting here do it. That’s some kind of masochism.

For those of us who have been here two plus decades, we can recall the pre-login days, the Strike Eagle days, the optimist/realist days, etc.

And through it all, despite some nasty people, some crazy people, the team being awesome and the team being terrible — this forum is successful when the members focus on debating football.

It’s not always sunshine, but BBI has been its best when it is real. If posting here is such a drag, maybe it’s time to pack it up.


Nice thoughts.

I was here during the BBI Civil War between the Optimists v Realists. This place was alive. It was raw and unplugged. And it was a perfect lesson in learning to keep your cool and to never take this place too seriously.
What an odd world we live in  
MyNameIsMyName : 1/8/2022 11:13 pm : link
The ones who tell it how it is are the trolls, the sunshine blowers are the realists
RE: What an odd world we live in  
PatersonPlank : 1/8/2022 11:19 pm : link
In comment 15536646 MyNameIsMyName said:
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The ones who tell it how it is are the trolls, the sunshine blowers are the realists


The real point is that there are two opinions. The ones that agree with a persons opinion are realists, the ones that don't are morons, idiots, and jerks (whatever side you are on). We should be able to listen to different opinions and have civil discussions, we can't. Each side thinks the other are idiots., just like in politics.
 
christian : 1/8/2022 11:23 pm : link
Debating why things will go well is a welcomed perspective. There are plenty of honest and supportable positive arguments.

There are a bunch of positive threads on the forum right now. Those are great opportunities to voice those views.

CiP historically has been a good poster but  
NoGainDayne : 1/9/2022 9:40 am : link
nowadays just chimes in to take shots at people who are not happy with the team.

UConn I’ve rarely at any point seen post an original thought and really only criticizes people and complains.

The difference as Terps pointed out is that many people including myself were happy to be positive about the team when it was deserved. The issue with the one note people is that their utility is being made perfectly clear in these dark times. They seem like a voice of reason when people are being overly critical of the team but now with fair critiques abound they have resorted to pot shots like mocking petitions. And I guess outlandish claims of “homophonic bannerman”

It’s whatever honestly. I don’t find it all that helpful that people are doing anything to prop up this sham leadership that the Giants have. But the bridge to far for me is the outcry for these incredibly biased people, standing on wobbly legs, when some of them spent a lot of their time being nastier to people in the past. There is no additional nastiness being put on positive people than their was on the negative ones. If anything I think the main people who were attacked in the past are taking the high road here. Because they just want the Giants to be good vs. these others that act a lot like the Giants managers frankly. They’d rather protect the weird insular unsuccessful culture that is clearly not working than make the necessary changes

RE: …  
HomerJones45 : 1/9/2022 9:50 am : link
In comment 15535964 christian said:
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Many of us remember 20-25 years ago on this site — a time BBIers slapped each other’s asses about how smart Giants fans were.

This place was the Wild West. The smartest and most popular members of this site used language, insults, and antics that were intense. Way more aggressive than anything today.

Accorsi, Reeves, Fassel, Brown, Graham etc. got ripped apart on here. Posters got their ass kicked left and right.
Oh boy, you are right there. BBI is tame now by comparison.
RE: RE: …  
Big Al : 1/9/2022 10:20 am : link
In comment 15536934 HomerJones45 said:
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In comment 15535964 christian said:


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Many of us remember 20-25 years ago on this site — a time BBIers slapped each other’s asses about how smart Giants fans were.

This place was the Wild West. The smartest and most popular members of this site used language, insults, and antics that were intense. Way more aggressive than anything today.

Accorsi, Reeves, Fassel, Brown, Graham etc. got ripped apart on here. Posters got their ass kicked left and right.

Oh boy, you are right there. BBI is tame now by comparison.
Yep.
RE: RE: RE: …  
christian : 1/9/2022 10:25 am : link
In comment 15536974 Big Al said:
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Accorsi, Reeves, Fassel, Brown, Graham etc. got ripped apart on here. Posters got their ass kicked left and right.

Oh boy, you are right there. BBI is tame now by comparison.

Yep.


I learned the meaning of a number of words and phrases I would not repeat on Sundays during that time.

Maybe some of us are getting more sensitive or appropriate with age.

But this place is much tamer now. Maybe as tame as it’s ever been.
NFT topics are BBI Kumbaya time  
penkap75 : 1/9/2022 10:29 am : link
The same poster that will call you an asshole for your opinion on Daniel Jones, will give you sympathy when you post your dog died today.
RE: NFT topics are BBI Kumbaya time  
Big Al : 1/9/2022 10:46 am : link
In comment 15536996 penkap75 said:
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The same poster that will call you an asshole for your opinion on Daniel Jones, will give you sympathy when you post your dog died today.
I see no issue with that.
RE: This board sucks  
Jacobs_27 : 1/9/2022 10:48 am : link
In comment 15536040 uther99 said:
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Years ago, I criticized Jonathan Stewart in game. Maybe it was preseason, not sure. I was told im a suck ass poster by FMIC. Summarizes my opinion of this board


The best thing to happen to BBI in a LONG time was the self-removal of that asshole from this board. Much like his beloved here Dave Gettleman, he should have been thrown out of here on his ass instead of leaving because he's too embarrassed to defend his past statements.
RE: RE: RE: This board sucks  
santacruzom : 1/14/2022 11:43 pm : link
In comment 15536406 giantstock said:
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In comment 15536377 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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In comment 15536040 uther99 said:


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Years ago, I criticized Jonathan Stewart in game. Maybe it was preseason, not sure. I was told im a suck ass poster by FMIC.



He did that to anyone that didn't think DG was as great and Parcells and George Young.



And remember the line he gave when things were going down the toilet for Dg and he was accused of being his lapdog defender?

He said something like "I never defended Dave Gettleman."


I'm sure it was more like:

"LOL!! I've never been a white knight for Gettleman. It's just that my astounding intellect can't countenance morons like you offering primitive criticisms of him, while there's no evidence that his moves were not NOT incompetent."
This is a very odd thread to me  
.McL. : 1/15/2022 1:40 am : link
It's like some weird, complete reversal of everything that was BBI.

First. I agree that personal attacks are bad look. Threatening or wishing harm on another is worse.

That said, I tend to agree that BBI is much tamer than it was even a couple years ago. And orders of magnitude tamer than 20-25 years ago (Yes I was here then).

What has changed is that for years those who believed in the positives far outnumbered those who believed in the negatives. Those who believed in the positives bullied and browbeat those who believed in the negatives. They were led by a specific poster we all know. They felt like they ruled the place and the flaunted it. That has switched. The few remaining who still believe in the positive are far outnumbered. They are no longer on top, and they feel like their message isn't being heard. They feel that BBI has become hostile to them and their opinions. To a certain extent they are right.

Let me say this. Posters like Terps, bw, JonC, and christian stated their case, took a mountain of crap for it, and almost always kept an even keel. They rarely if ever resorted to personal attacks. When it did slip out, it was only after being ganged up against and personally attacked by dozens of posters. They were the targets of tons of vitriol. Whether you liked their opinions or not, they were model citizens on this forum (especially christian and JonC, but they took less crap than Terps and bw).

In the end, the critical posters turned out to be correct. Now we have some of those very same positive thinking posters that attacked with vitriol in the past, whining about they way things have turned out on here.

Some serious lack of self awareness there...

I do not always agree with their opinions. I have debated with Terps, bw, JonC, christian on other critics numerous times. But those debates were always respectful, and usually enlightening.

Most of the time, if you treat people with respect, they will return the favor.

Regarding the vitriol directed at the likes of DG, JJ, JM, CM, KA, CP and the rest of the Giant FO. Fans are angry and venting. Nobody really wishes these people any real harm. I don't particularly enjoy those posts but I understand and just look past them.

On the other hand, the heavy criticism of this FO is more than well deserved. In fact, I think generally fans have gone lightly on them... I think we all recognize that the Maras are good people, people who deserve respect for the kind of people they are. Unfortunately they are just not very good at running a football teams In fact, they are so bad, that they were a hairs breath away from promoting Abrams and keeping Judge. It should not have to be this way, but the fan revolt, the criticism, the clown pictures which ultimately led to twitter meltdowns is what finally pushed Mara into doing this the right way. In fact, it was so close, that he almost kept Judge anyway, Tisch had to force that issue. So the fact of the matter is that the critical fans are the ones who pushed them into the current GM search and HC vacancy. I believe almost everybody believes that, so far this is better than the alternatives.

If you believe in the positives, then by all means, keep posting your positive opinions. Just be aware that you now hold a deeply unpopular position, and your posts will likely garner little satisfying feedback for you. There will come a time when the Giants fortunes start to turn. At that point your opinions may be more highly regarded. In the meantime, I'm afraid you will just have to grow a pair.
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