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WR Jameson Williams from Alabama

TC : 1/8/2022 1:32 pm
The Giants are in the unfortunate position of not just needing to augment some positions, but many. And while OL deservedly gets most of the attention, WR which was supposed to be "solved" by the addition of Toney and Golladay, hasn't been. Toney can't stay or the field, and Golladay has fizzled. Never one to get great separation, whether Jones and improved blocking will allow him to get into sync sufficiently with his QB to get him the ball in the tight windows he appears to require is an open issue.

Shep is on his way out, and the bad hands which were a problem for Slayton in school are back, whereas his college track speed is nowhere in evidence.

But there are so many needs to address, I can't say, yeah, go out and draft a stud WR. But in keeping with trying to add BPA, game breaking play makers, there are some WR's that should be looked at. This guy has caught my eye, taller, lean but strong burner with good hands and routes, Jameson Williams from Alabama. If still there in the 2nd, a consideration?

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You aren’t getting studs now...it has a few months to go. And we  
Jimmy Googs : 1/8/2022 10:03 pm : link
certainly do not need stud WRs to precede a guy who can throw the ball to them.

Rebuild with the best players you can evaluate, but do it smartly. This isn’t...

This is a draft with  
BigBlueBuff : 1/8/2022 10:09 pm : link
three very good OT prospects, what some folks are calling the best center prospect since Mike Webster (!), and a very deep DE class and the Giants should take a wide receiver?

This is why we can't have nice things.
When in doubt..  
bw in dc : 1/8/2022 10:19 pm : link
Matt Millen it - keep using high draft picks on WRs until you get it really right.

JFC.

The college game is chock-full of WR talent every year. With good scouting, you can find them in every round. The league is littered with great WRs taken after the first round. It's a position where it's smart business to wait until later in the draft to find them. The supply easily meets the demand.
RE: This is a draft with  
giantstock : 1/8/2022 11:07 pm : link
In comment 15536584 BigBlueBuff said:
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three very good OT prospects, what some folks are calling the best center prospect since Mike Webster (!), and a very deep DE class and the Giants should take a wide receiver?

This is why we can't have nice things.


Why can't you take both an OT and a WR?
This is a passing league  
armstead98 : 1/9/2022 8:39 am : link
And the Giants haven’t had a top tier WR since Nicks in his prime. If Jameson Williams is on the same level as Adams, Kupp, or Chase I’m all for it.

It’s not the same as picking a RB, WR is a premium positive, RB is not. It also doesn’t mean ignoring the OL either, the Giants have a lot of picks and there’s always next year and the year after that.
Jones, much like Eli  
giantBCP : 1/9/2022 8:43 am : link
has a willingness to throw to any receiver at his disposal. I think we need more bodies if we cut Shep, but I don’t think we need to draft a receiver so high.
RE: This is a passing league  
Jimmy Googs : 1/9/2022 8:44 am : link
In comment 15536847 armstead98 said:
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And the Giants haven’t had a top tier WR since Nicks in his prime. If Jameson Williams is on the same level as Adams, Kupp, or Chase I’m all for it.

It’s not the same as picking a RB, WR is a premium positive, RB is not. It also doesn’t mean ignoring the OL either, the Giants have a lot of picks and there’s always next year and the year after that.


If it's a passing league, find a passer...
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bw in dc : 1/9/2022 12:15 pm : link
In comment 15536847 armstead98 said:
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And the Giants haven’t had a top tier WR since Nicks in his prime. If Jameson Williams is on the same level as Adams, Kupp, or Chase I’m all for it.

It’s not the same as picking a RB, WR is a premium positive, RB is not. It also doesn’t mean ignoring the OL either, the Giants have a lot of picks and there’s always next year and the year after that.


WR is more important than RB. But it's also a position with a good supply almost every year. And talent to be found on day 2 and 3 of the draft. Patience is a virtue with the WR position.
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adamg : 1/9/2022 12:30 pm : link
In comment 15537285 bw in dc said:
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In comment 15536847 armstead98 said:


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And the Giants haven’t had a top tier WR since Nicks in his prime. If Jameson Williams is on the same level as Adams, Kupp, or Chase I’m all for it.

It’s not the same as picking a RB, WR is a premium positive, RB is not. It also doesn’t mean ignoring the OL either, the Giants have a lot of picks and there’s always next year and the year after that.



WR is more important than RB. But it's also a position with a good supply almost every year. And talent to be found on day 2 and 3 of the draft. Patience is a virtue with the WR position.


Same with RB to some extent (the latter two sentences).
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armstead98 : 1/9/2022 12:53 pm : link
In comment 15537285 bw in dc said:
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In comment 15536847 armstead98 said:


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And the Giants haven’t had a top tier WR since Nicks in his prime. If Jameson Williams is on the same level as Adams, Kupp, or Chase I’m all for it.

It’s not the same as picking a RB, WR is a premium positive, RB is not. It also doesn’t mean ignoring the OL either, the Giants have a lot of picks and there’s always next year and the year after that.



WR is more important than RB. But it's also a position with a good supply almost every year. And talent to be found on day 2 and 3 of the draft. Patience is a virtue with the WR position.


It’s much easier to find good linemen late
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giantstock : 1/9/2022 3:34 pm : link
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In comment 15536847 armstead98 said:


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And the Giants haven’t had a top tier WR since Nicks in his prime. If Jameson Williams is on the same level as Adams, Kupp, or Chase I’m all for it.

It’s not the same as picking a RB, WR is a premium positive, RB is not. It also doesn’t mean ignoring the OL either, the Giants have a lot of picks and there’s always next year and the year after that.



WR is more important than RB. But it's also a position with a good supply almost every year. And talent to be found on day 2 and 3 of the draft. Patience is a virtue with the WR position.



Same with RB to some extent (the latter two sentences).


With your initial question about taking Williams with number 8 - I am not for it but realize it can be done without throwing the remote.

But if you're taking Williams at 8 you should be thinking that he is CD Lamb or Ja Chase - and if he is-- the chance there is someone you can get in the latter rounds beyond round 2 is extremely slim.

SO those that are mentioning on here you can get a WR in later rounds is not what I think your intent was in this scenario, is it? Aren’t you expecting with the number 8 pick CD Lamb or Ja Chase?
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