Get this—Judge is trying to sell Mara’s on a Kevin Abrams pairing. When I heard, at first, I was like wtf? But it makes sense, if you are in trouble, you try to get Mara’s to do what you want them to do and they want to promote Abrams (whether they will is another story).
I heard this from reliable source, but all the caveats apply with any asshat info
I suspect this is how things actually operated last season where Judge ran the draft and most of the off season signings and Abrams figured out how to fit it all under the cap.
exactly
I suspect this is how things actually operated last season where Judge ran the draft and most of the off season signings and Abrams figured out how to fit it all under the cap.
Certainly hope not. We need a GM that focuses on his job. and coach does the same.
Mara makes a common mistake many BBIers do - thinking that something good from the current year will convey to the next year.
The only logical move here is to find the best GM possible. Then, let that guy decide whether Judge coaches this team next year without Mara's input
Anything short of that is nothing more than continued meddling my Mara.
Yes, but I would change rant to rants.
Sunday wasn't a one-timer. There have been a few. Sunday's rant just brought this situation to a boil.
Thank you
This was the funniest reply I have seen in years. Are you under the age of 18 or drunk?
I suspect this is how things actually operated last season where Judge ran the draft and most of the off season signings and Abrams figured out how to fit it all under the cap.
Agreed, but I hope it doesn't happen.
Fromm: 32/38 3 TDs, 0 INTs.
Barkley: 2 TDs, 175 yards rushing.
Golladay: 11 receptions, 155 yards receiving, 2 TDs.
Giants 45 WFT 10.
Mara cites our "strong finish" as a rational for keeping Judge and promoting Abrams to GM.
Book it.
You're delusional.
Mara deserves blame, but a win in an empty stadium between two teams with backups going no where is not anything to build a case on.
But because you can't trust virtually any decision Mara makes anymore, the default position of not buying Abrams as the answer is more than reasonable.
Which prove the point you won't be happy until, well, you're happy. And the Giants are winning again.
Because even if you agree with the decisions they make - whatever that is - if the team still fails you'll ultimately blame Mara.
Why would Judge want an outside GM with no ties to him? I wouldn’t make much of this.
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is what is going to happen:
Fromm: 32/38 3 TDs, 0 INTs.
Barkley: 2 TDs, 175 yards rushing.
Golladay: 11 receptions, 155 yards receiving, 2 TDs.
Giants 45 WFT 10.
Mara cites our "strong finish" as a rational for keeping Judge and promoting Abrams to GM.
Book it.
You're delusional.
Mara deserves blame, but a win in an empty stadium between two teams with backups going no where is not anything to build a case on.
I was being sarcastic.
Fromm: 32/38 3 TDs, 0 INTs.
Barkley: 2 TDs, 175 yards rushing.
Golladay: 11 receptions, 155 yards receiving, 2 TDs.
Giants 45 WFT 10.
Mara cites our "strong finish" as a rational for keeping Judge and promoting Abrams to GM.
Book it.
The team ran up the white flag weeks ago. It’ll take a huge effort just to get them out of the locker room tomorrow.
He has his own issues to deal with
I see what you did there…
"Loyalty" and laziness.
He probably was scouring the internet and saw Kevin Abrams mentioned in a discussion.
….I might if it was Gatorade zero. Can’t get it anywhere. Just saying.
Essex : 2:52 pm
Get this—Judge is trying to sell Mara’s on a Kevin Abrams pairing. When I heard, at first, I was like wtf? But it makes sense, if you are in trouble, you try to get Mara’s to do what you want them to do and they want to promote Abrams (whether they will is another story).
I heard this from reliable source, but all the caveats apply with any asshat info"
A reliable source but FAILED to mention a name that in and of itself immediately says to me BULLSHIT he making this shit up and knows absolutely nothing as to what he or she is talking about.
Infact NO ONE KNOWS outside of the few select Front Office personal know what the NY Giants are going to do with Gettleman Judge Abrams Petit or for Gods sake even Chris Mara.
So pleas stop trying to make anyone believe that you are some special person with insider information on what the n Giants are going to do.
But because you can't trust virtually any decision Mara makes anymore, the default position of not buying Abrams as the answer is more than reasonable.
Give me one reason that Abrams could be the answer here. He has been by the side of Reese and Gettleman. He is just as responsible for the mess that they’re in right now as either of them. What has Abrams done well? The cap, that he’s apparently a guru with, will be in an all time worst shape this off-season.
Essex : 2:52 pm
Get this—Judge is trying to sell Mara’s on a Kevin Abrams pairing. When I heard, at first, I was like wtf? But it makes sense, if you are in trouble, you try to get Mara’s to do what you want them to do and they want to promote Abrams (whether they will is another story).
I heard this from reliable source, but all the caveats apply with any asshat info"
A reliable source but FAILED to mention a name that in and of itself immediately says to me BULLSHIT he making this shit up and knows absolutely nothing as to what he or she is talking about.
Infact NO ONE KNOWS outside of the few select Front Office personal know what the NY Giants are going to do with Gettleman Judge Abrams Petit or for Gods sake even Chris Mara.
So pleas stop trying to make anyone believe that you are some special person with insider information on what the n Giants are going to do.
Someone doesn't know how sources work
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Abrams may actually be the answer at GM.
But because you can't trust virtually any decision Mara makes anymore, the default position of not buying Abrams as the answer is more than reasonable.
Give me one reason that Abrams could be the answer here. He has been by the side of Reese and Gettleman. He is just as responsible for the mess that they’re in right now as either of them. What has Abrams done well? The cap, that he’s apparently a guru with, will be in an all time worst shape this off-season.
I’m bot sure if you understand. Doing the cap is not deciding who gets paid or how much they get paid or how long a contract is. Those are
Parameters that are given to the cap person to structure in a contract. To keep track of space and have scenarios when money needs to be found.
It’s not a decision making position, or even an evaluation position
I don’t think he should get elevated but I think there is a misconception as to what the cap manager does
Completely insane. Delusional. But 'Giants Family' or whatever...who cares about the results?
Essex : 2:52 pm
Get this—Judge is trying to sell Mara’s on a Kevin Abrams pairing. When I heard, at first, I was like wtf? But it makes sense, if you are in trouble, you try to get Mara’s to do what you want them to do and they want to promote Abrams (whether they will is another story).
I heard this from reliable source, but all the caveats apply with any asshat info"
A reliable source but FAILED to mention a name that in and of itself immediately says to me BULLSHIT he making this shit up and knows absolutely nothing as to what he or she is talking about.
Infact NO ONE KNOWS outside of the few select Front Office personal know what the NY Giants are going to do with Gettleman Judge Abrams Petit or for Gods sake even Chris Mara.
So pleas stop trying to make anyone believe that you are some special person with insider information on what the n Giants are going to do.
Get lost with this take. He heard something and passed it along. Things are very fluid right now, all he said was Judge wants to work with Abrams but isn’t safe.
And you’re also wrong because we’ve had 3-4 posters who consistently hear things that typically check out.
I’ve heard most of the organization hates Judge and his people leaked the Christmas donations to get him good PR. Thats when I figured he was feeling heat.
After his comments the last 2 weeks, especially on WFT, if they get badly blown out i really think he gets canned. Would be a brutal look for the organization.
[quote] From all accounts, Mara wants to promote Abrams to GM...
It’s not ALL accounts. There are SOME reports that he wanted to promote Abrams. Most of those reports also say he knows that’s not tenable and will go outside the org. Regardless it’s all speculation.
Personally I seriously doubt Kevin gets promoted. I wouldn’t be surprised if he isn’t fired but he is not the next GM. nor should he be
I suspect this is how things actually operated last season where Judge ran the draft and most of the off season signings and Abrams figured out how to fit it all under the cap.
I think you've misidentified the shadow GM in that scenario, it's Chris Mara.
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Abrams may actually be the answer at GM.
But because you can't trust virtually any decision Mara makes anymore, the default position of not buying Abrams as the answer is more than reasonable.
Give me one reason that Abrams could be the answer here. He has been by the side of Reese and Gettleman. He is just as responsible for the mess that they’re in right now as either of them. What has Abrams done well? The cap, that he’s apparently a guru with, will be in an all time worst shape this off-season.
I really don't want to defend Abrams on any level. The entire organization needs to be turned over as far as I'm concerned.
But his voice could be getting lost in the sauce with so many other bigger voices - Gettleman, Judge, Maras, Pettit, McDonnell, etc. So, I really have no idea what skills Abrams might have if given full reign. Yet, you can't give him the benefit of the doubt because the organization is polluted that you have to assume he's bad, too.
Problem is that most reliable UNNAMED SOURCES or ask to NOT have their name used are bullshitting and flat out lieing.
"And you’re also wrong because we’ve had 3-4 posters who consistently hear things that typically check out.
I’ve heard most of the organization hates Judge and his people leaked the Christmas donations to get him good PR. Thats when I figured he was feeling heat.
After his comments the last 2 weeks, especially on WFT, if they get badly blown out i really think he gets canned. Would be a brutal look for the organization."
Dude I have no idea why your so angry, Im just saying in MY EXPERIENCE "reliable Sources" with out a name are just bullshit with no fact behind it.
If the Soiurce is so reliable and the Information is the truth than why not go all the way and say the name and be quoted with the statement you say is the truth.
Like I said if it is so "Reliable" Why are you hiding? Why not be named? So I take "Reliable Sources" with BULLSHIT id you cant stand by what your saying than dont say it
Anonymous sources have been an integral part of the press, and reporting stories accurately, for a long, long time.
Problem is that most reliable UNNAMED SOURCES or ask to NOT have their name used are bullshitting and flat out lieing.
Are you new here?
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He’s the lead voice within the organization. I believe any GM that comes in will need Judges blessing. Joe Judge is an elite head coach.
I don’t think elite means what you think it does.
Also, why have you not been banned yet?
He’s just putting cheese out there at this point. Especially classless, if an inside troll.