and he lost me right away with the "Why didn't Gettleman draft Quentin nelson and Nick Chubb instead of Barkley and Hernandez silliness. Anyone can go back to any draft and say why look at this, this is what they should have done. IF the Giants picked a Guard with the second pick in the draft the earth would have slipped off it's axis. So then you can say, well they should have traded down, picked up more capital and then drafted Nelson, but this is all hindsight, everyone is a genius in hindsight. It's lazy journalism just piling on.
I’ve made the point on many threads that the average salary
on it's face, but some stupid shit gets thrown around here (with no evidence) that never gets challenged.
Abrams presence during the past several years is enough for me to not want to promote him, but how the hell do you know that he is a "beta type yes man"?
What is that based on? You pulled it out if your ass, and because nobody wants Abrams we all pretend that it is true with no evidence. We know very little about him in reality.
Through four years of Gettleman, this team has never had a record above .500.
An absurd achievement.
There are people who post here who want to promote someone who is one of the most senior football executives of the past 10 years. Seriously what is wrong with you people?
'...and, asinine as it seems, sources familiar with this team’s thinking wouldn’t be surprised at all if the Maras spun a win as a sign of tangible progress and ran it back with Judge for a third year.'
Not asinine to people who follow this clown organization. 'Listen, it was a rough season. No one is madder than me. But we beat a good Washington team yesterday so I think things are pointed in the right direction.'-John Mara on Monday, incompetent boob that he has become & maybe always has been.
RE: I decided to go back and start from the beginning with part 1
and he lost me right away with the "Why didn't Gettleman draft Quentin nelson and Nick Chubb instead of Barkley and Hernandez silliness. Anyone can go back to any draft and say why look at this, this is what they should have done. IF the Giants picked a Guard with the second pick in the draft the earth would have slipped off it's axis. So then you can say, well they should have traded down, picked up more capital and then drafted Nelson, but this is all hindsight, everyone is a genius in hindsight. It's lazy journalism just piling on.
So you just discarded it all as trash and didn’t read beyond that?
on it's face, but some stupid shit gets thrown around here (with no evidence) that never gets challenged.
Abrams presence during the past several years is enough for me to not want to promote him, but how the hell do you know that he is a "beta type yes man"?
What is that based on? You pulled it out if your ass, and because nobody wants Abrams we all pretend that it is true with no evidence. We know very little about him in reality.
Abrams is currently employed by the Giants. Hence, he is hated and the sentiment is that he must be jettisoned. Any personal qualities he may have do not matter: he is a Giant. Get rid of him. The mob wants its meat.
RE: RE: I decided to go back and start from the beginning with part 1
and he lost me right away with the "Why didn't Gettleman draft Quentin nelson and Nick Chubb instead of Barkley and Hernandez silliness. Anyone can go back to any draft and say why look at this, this is what they should have done. IF the Giants picked a Guard with the second pick in the draft the earth would have slipped off it's axis. So then you can say, well they should have traded down, picked up more capital and then drafted Nelson, but this is all hindsight, everyone is a genius in hindsight. It's lazy journalism just piling on.
So you just discarded it all as trash and didn’t read beyond that?
There are about 2 hrs of Giants podcast I want to get to, pus some blogs and I have 3 books sitting here that I want to read as well so when I saw the Nelson/Chubb quote and these two gems,
Offensive coordinator Jason Garrett pushes hard for tackle Andrew Thomas at No. 4 overall.
2021. The Giants gift-wrap linebacker Micah Parsons to Dallas and Mac Jones to New England. (Yes, there was a coach on staff who really liked the Alabama quarterback.)
Yeah I decided my time was better spent somewhere else. You start off dumb most times you don't get a second chance!
RE: RE: RE: I decided to go back and start from the beginning with part 1
and he lost me right away with the "Why didn't Gettleman draft Quentin nelson and Nick Chubb instead of Barkley and Hernandez silliness. Anyone can go back to any draft and say why look at this, this is what they should have done. IF the Giants picked a Guard with the second pick in the draft the earth would have slipped off it's axis. So then you can say, well they should have traded down, picked up more capital and then drafted Nelson, but this is all hindsight, everyone is a genius in hindsight. It's lazy journalism just piling on.
So you just discarded it all as trash and didn’t read beyond that?
There are about 2 hrs of Giants podcast I want to get to, pus some blogs and I have 3 books sitting here that I want to read as well so when I saw the Nelson/Chubb quote and these two gems,
Offensive coordinator Jason Garrett pushes hard for tackle Andrew Thomas at No. 4 overall.
2021. The Giants gift-wrap linebacker Micah Parsons to Dallas and Mac Jones to New England. (Yes, there was a coach on staff who really liked the Alabama quarterback.)
Yeah I decided my time was better spent somewhere else. You start off dumb most times you don't get a second chance!
Still find it strange you decided to spend the time commenting on an article you found too much of a waste of time to read.
RE: I decided to go back and start from the beginning with part 1
and he lost me right away with the "Why didn't Gettleman draft Quentin nelson and Nick Chubb instead of Barkley and Hernandez silliness. Anyone can go back to any draft and say why look at this, this is what they should have done. IF the Giants picked a Guard with the second pick in the draft the earth would have slipped off it's axis.
Practically every team in the NFL has dealt with something in 2021. The Houston Texans stripped their roster bare and beat the current No. 1 seed in the AFC. The Detroit Lions also stripped their roster down, yet have fought like junkyard dogs all season. They’ve lost six games by a touchdown or less. The Baltimore Ravens, down to fourth- and fifth-stringers, have lost four games by a combined five points since December. Nobody is quitting under John Harbaugh.
And the most damning indictment of all is found right in their home state of New Jersey. The franchise these Giants have been able to stick their nose up to for decades upon decades, the 4-12 New York Jets, appear to have the brighter future. They were seconds away from upsetting the defending champs last week and took down the playoff-bound Bengals and Titans earlier in the year.
Yet, there is a cacophony of excuses around here that are well over four years old...
RE: RE: I decided to go back and start from the beginning with part 1
and he lost me right away with the "Why didn't Gettleman draft Quentin nelson and Nick Chubb instead of Barkley and Hernandez silliness. Anyone can go back to any draft and say why look at this, this is what they should have done. IF the Giants picked a Guard with the second pick in the draft the earth would have slipped off it's axis.
And they would be a better team.
So would all the teams that passed on Mahomes, Donald, Kamara and on and on and on...
“The Lions have fought like junkyard dogs all season!”
They have 2 wins. You’re applying this standard to the Lions? Who are worse - objectively - than the Giants? And you’re saying that the Lions have lost a bunch a games by a touchdown or less? I thought it was wins or losses that truly mattered? Which is it?
Apply that same standard and the Giants “might have 7 wins right now” if things went differently this year.
on a neutral field over the Giants right now. They have been in games and recently beat the team that is currently the 2 seed in the NFC. They’ve been doing a lot of this with Tim Boyle at QB, who was ok at UConn. It’s not an off-base statement.
“The Lions have fought like junkyard dogs all season!”
Apply that same standard and the Giants “might have 7 wins right now” if things went differently this year.
The Giants actually wouldn’t. They would have the same exact record if you reversed the outcome of one score games. The Giants are exactly what their record states and likely worse if you factor in the current state.
So in actuality drafting an RB 2nd was way worse than a guard positional value wise. I don’t know how this gets continually twisted around
Abrams presence during the past several years is enough for me to not want to promote him, but how the hell do you know that he is a "beta type yes man"?
What is that based on? You pulled it out if your ass, and because nobody wants Abrams we all pretend that it is true with no evidence. We know very little about him in reality.
An absurd achievement.
There are people who post here who want to promote someone who is one of the most senior football executives of the past 10 years. Seriously what is wrong with you people?
Not asinine to people who follow this clown organization. 'Listen, it was a rough season. No one is madder than me. But we beat a good Washington team yesterday so I think things are pointed in the right direction.'-John Mara on Monday, incompetent boob that he has become & maybe always has been.
So you just discarded it all as trash and didn’t read beyond that?
Abrams presence during the past several years is enough for me to not want to promote him, but how the hell do you know that he is a "beta type yes man"?
What is that based on? You pulled it out if your ass, and because nobody wants Abrams we all pretend that it is true with no evidence. We know very little about him in reality.
Abrams is currently employed by the Giants. Hence, he is hated and the sentiment is that he must be jettisoned. Any personal qualities he may have do not matter: he is a Giant. Get rid of him. The mob wants its meat.
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and he lost me right away with the "Why didn't Gettleman draft Quentin nelson and Nick Chubb instead of Barkley and Hernandez silliness. Anyone can go back to any draft and say why look at this, this is what they should have done. IF the Giants picked a Guard with the second pick in the draft the earth would have slipped off it's axis. So then you can say, well they should have traded down, picked up more capital and then drafted Nelson, but this is all hindsight, everyone is a genius in hindsight. It's lazy journalism just piling on.
So you just discarded it all as trash and didn’t read beyond that?
Offensive coordinator Jason Garrett pushes hard for tackle Andrew Thomas at No. 4 overall.
2021. The Giants gift-wrap linebacker Micah Parsons to Dallas and Mac Jones to New England. (Yes, there was a coach on staff who really liked the Alabama quarterback.)
Yeah I decided my time was better spent somewhere else. You start off dumb most times you don't get a second chance!
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In comment 15536023 Walker Gillette said:
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and he lost me right away with the "Why didn't Gettleman draft Quentin nelson and Nick Chubb instead of Barkley and Hernandez silliness. Anyone can go back to any draft and say why look at this, this is what they should have done. IF the Giants picked a Guard with the second pick in the draft the earth would have slipped off it's axis. So then you can say, well they should have traded down, picked up more capital and then drafted Nelson, but this is all hindsight, everyone is a genius in hindsight. It's lazy journalism just piling on.
So you just discarded it all as trash and didn’t read beyond that?
There are about 2 hrs of Giants podcast I want to get to, pus some blogs and I have 3 books sitting here that I want to read as well so when I saw the Nelson/Chubb quote and these two gems,
Offensive coordinator Jason Garrett pushes hard for tackle Andrew Thomas at No. 4 overall.
2021. The Giants gift-wrap linebacker Micah Parsons to Dallas and Mac Jones to New England. (Yes, there was a coach on staff who really liked the Alabama quarterback.)
Yeah I decided my time was better spent somewhere else. You start off dumb most times you don't get a second chance!
Still find it strange you decided to spend the time commenting on an article you found too much of a waste of time to read.
And they would be a better team.
And the most damning indictment of all is found right in their home state of New Jersey. The franchise these Giants have been able to stick their nose up to for decades upon decades, the 4-12 New York Jets, appear to have the brighter future. They were seconds away from upsetting the defending champs last week and took down the playoff-bound Bengals and Titans earlier in the year.
Yet, there is a cacophony of excuses around here that are well over four years old...
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and he lost me right away with the "Why didn't Gettleman draft Quentin nelson and Nick Chubb instead of Barkley and Hernandez silliness. Anyone can go back to any draft and say why look at this, this is what they should have done. IF the Giants picked a Guard with the second pick in the draft the earth would have slipped off it's axis.
And they would be a better team.
They have 2 wins. You’re applying this standard to the Lions? Who are worse - objectively - than the Giants? And you’re saying that the Lions have lost a bunch a games by a touchdown or less? I thought it was wins or losses that truly mattered? Which is it?
Apply that same standard and the Giants “might have 7 wins right now” if things went differently this year.
You want to report on the Giants dysfunction, that’s fine. But, that is a ridiculous line.
Apply that same standard and the Giants “might have 7 wins right now” if things went differently this year.
The Giants actually wouldn’t. They would have the same exact record if you reversed the outcome of one score games. The Giants are exactly what their record states and likely worse if you factor in the current state.