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| Giants owner John Mara has continued to vouch for head coach Joe Judge, but each week has brought another self-made controversy, and fan and media sentiment is largely against keeping Judge on for a third season. Furthermore, sources said minority owner Steve Tisch has long been in support of a thorough review of the entire organization, including the head coach, and has been open to making changes beyond just the general manager position, where sources have maintained for weeks that Dave Gettleman will not return. |
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Petit and Konz are gone with a new gm. douchbag or not, competent or not. A mew Gm will have his own "braintrust" for decision making.
The scouts will most likely stay until the draft (and then be evaluated)
I don't think he's ever had the ability to change things, tbh.
Here comes Stone Cold Steve Tisch to save the day
Steve Tisch has been involved with the New York Giants since his father, Preston Robert Tisch, purchased 50 percent of the franchise in 1991. In 2005, Steve was named Executive Vice President, and with the passing of his father that year, he assumed the additional title of Chairman.
It's remarkable that a professional reporter could be so mistaken about this fundamental fact of NYG ownership.
Comes down to laziness. John Mara goes to the owners' meetings and acts like an owner, so he must be the majority owner, right?
Gong, wrong.
La Canfora doesn't offer an email address. Someone with a twitter account could instruct him on his error.
If you further informed JLC that John Mara actually only owns 4.5% of the Giants because he shares the Mara family's 50% with 10 siblings, and that Steve Tisch also shares his family's ownership with siblings, his head would probably explode.
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Ernie Accorsi: "Just went through the whole thing, John. Everything is fine! You have a great foundation, just give it a few more years!"
People on this fucking website know this organization needs a massive reboot & apparently the owner who runs the football side wants to promote Abrams & keep Judge, but probably won't because of the public reaction? JFC John. Are you THIS fucking dumb?
^^^THIS^^^^
WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE!
Tisch appears on the sideline, wearing a Superman outfit, accompanied by LT. After game, LT is announced as the new GM and director of football operations. Team proceeds to bottom-feed for another 10 years. At age 82, Tom Coughlin is brought in to right the ship. Ship sinks; NY Giants become the Meadowlands Redskins.
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The yearly Tisch to the rescue story where all the BBIers get excited... and then Tisch, as usual, will do nothing.
^^^THIS^^^^
Yeah, in all likelihood that's true. But fuck it...I'm clinging to this news because it's a shred of hope.
Yup he will do nothing
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Steve Tisch has been involved with the New York Giants since his father, Preston Robert Tisch, purchased 50 percent of the franchise in 1991. In 2005, Steve was named Executive Vice President, and with the passing of his father that year, he assumed the additional title of Chairman.
It's remarkable that a professional reporter could be so mistaken about this fundamental fact of NYG ownership.
Comes down to laziness. John Mara goes to the owners' meetings and acts like an owner, so he must be the majority owner, right?
Gong, wrong.
La Canfora doesn't offer an email address. Someone with a twitter account could instruct him on his error.
If you further informed JLC that John Mara actually only owns 4.5% of the Giants because he shares the Mara family's 50% with 10 siblings, and that Steve Tisch also shares his family's ownership with siblings, his head would probably explode.
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The percentages aren't the deciding factor. Yes, he shares 50% with the rest of the Mara family. John is the one with the title. They do not have a conference call with all Maras on the line in order to make decisions. It's John's job. Tisch is involved in some things, not daily operations.
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Throwing on hero cape?
WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE!
Tisch appears on the sideline, wearing a Superman outfit, accompanied by LT. After game, LT is announced as the new GM and director of football operations. Team proceeds to bottom-feed for another 10 years. At age 82, Tom Coughlin is brought in to right the ship. Ship sinks; NY Giants become the Meadowlands Redskins.
That's Snyder's MO.
The "thorough review" would be conducted by Tim McDonnell and he will conclude the guys that need to be gone don't need to go.
The percentages aren't the deciding factor. Yes, he shares 50% with the rest of the Mara family. John is the one with the title. They do not have a conference call with all Maras on the line in order to make decisions. It's John's job. Tisch is involved in some things, not daily operations.
Understanding the actual ownership situation is pertinent for certain purposes. Issues are potentially being raised that go beyond how daily football decisions are currently being made.
For one thing, John is approaching 70 years old, isn't going to live forever, and succession plans have no doubt been considered. Understanding the actual nature of the ownership situation is pertinent to understanding where things are likely to go and who is likely to take his place.
Haven't seen a beat reporter demonstrate that understanding and JLC's mistake is significantly worse than average.
I don't know what it will do. How can we nationally embarrass Mara? That's what it'll take for change unfortunately.
Moreso they are up for promotions...
If and when the Tisch’s tire of of being affiliated with a loser franchise and they have no legal power to overturn the Mara’s in their operational control of the football operations, one might think they might want to force a sale of their 50% interest. After all, by several accounts the Giants franchise is one of the top five most valuable sports franchises in the world. Worth an estimated $4.5+ billion.
But then again, the devil is in the details. Often privately-held companies have buy-sell agreements with the party desiring to sell their interest granting their co-owners the right-of-first-refusal to purchase the selling party’s interest before offering it for sale to a third party. So if the Tisch’s wanted to sell to rid themselves of the the stench of Giant’s ownership while making a 10x profit or more, the Mara’s may well have the right to buy the Tisch’s interest should they be able to finance such an acquisition , and then the Mara’s would have regained total ownership and control of our beloved NY Giants football franchise.
I was once a lawyer a long time ago, and not a very good one at that, so I may be completely off base. If that helps any of us Giants fans sleep any better.
If and when the Tisch’s tire of of being affiliated with a loser franchise and they have no legal power to overturn the Mara’s in their operational control of the football operations, one might think they might want to force a sale of their 50% interest. After all, by several accounts the Giants franchise is one of the top five most valuable sports franchises in the world. Worth an estimated $4.5+ billion.
But then again, the devil is in the details. Often privately-held companies have buy-sell agreements with the party desiring to sell their interest granting their co-owners the right-of-first-refusal to purchase the selling party’s interest before offering it for sale to a third party. So if the Tisch’s wanted to sell to rid themselves of the the stench of Giant’s ownership while making a 10x profit or more, the Mara’s may well have the right to buy the Tisch’s interest should they be able to finance such an acquisition , and then the Mara’s would have regained total ownership and control of our beloved NY Giants football franchise.
I was once a lawyer a long time ago, and not a very good one at that, so I may be completely off base. If that helps any of us Giants fans sleep any better.
I think Robert Tisch bought Tim Mara’s share 30 years ago - not Steve Tisch who inherited the deal is father struck. Robert Tisch was not an idiot in the entertainment industry, so I’m sure he retained enough leverage to request a thorough review of the organization at any time.
Then again, once one has perhaps made 30x their money on their investment, paying taxes on it to be able to save with face your NY and Hollywood friends without embarrassment might be worthwhile. After all, let’s face it, it’s not about the money for the Tisch’s at this point.
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The yearly Tisch to the rescue story where all the BBIers get excited... and then Tisch, as usual, will do nothing.
^^^THIS^^^^
Sadly true
Then again, once one has perhaps made 30x their money on their investment, paying taxes on it to be able to save with face your NY and Hollywood friends without embarrassment might be worthwhile. After all, let’s face it, it’s not about the money for the Tisch’s at this point.
As Ivan15 says, it was Bob Tisch, the father who made the purchase. And he didn't leave his share all to Steve. Jonathan Tisch, Steve's brother who is on the NYG front office page as Treasurer, is also a co-owner.
And Charles Tisch, Jonathan's son, is on the FO page as a Football Operations Assistant. See link for fact that is an actual job.
Steve made himself very visible in the Eli benching crisis and John was evidently very concerned to appease his displeasure at the turn of events.
I don't expect anything drastic from the Tisches at this moment but I don't see why they would have agreed to legally restrict their rights as co-equal owners.
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He will be involved in the GM search/ hiring process. I'm not sure why anyone has faith in him. He's a trust fund baby, too....no?
Who gives a shit who he's boinking. If I had his money my dick would fall off. Rich guy getying laid by young tail, news at 11. Honestly, what he dips his wick in is irrelevant to what his influence is to the team, which I hope will be a powerful hedge to Mara's nepotistic operation.
What's it matter?
Bob Kraft got popped for soliciting hand jobs at a massage parlor. I wish Mara was that busy in his spare time. He'd stay away from football.
Cmon, people really give a shit about this?
The real point is that he doesn’t seem particularly interested in the team outside the additional revenue stream and investment. I think he lives I. LA and comes back occasionally. My understanding was with the last coaching hire he participated on zoom and not in person.
All that ain’t happening before free agency. It might not happen before the Draft. And even if they could expedite the whole process without compromising quality, they will have missed the interview cycle for top front office and coaching talent.
The 2022 Giants will not be good. Even if they get lucky with injuries and random bounces, their ceiling is probably mediocrity. It’s fine with me if lame ducks like Kevin Abrams and Joe Judge and Daniel Jones and Saquon Barkley et al hang around for 17 games that will suck no matter who is out there getting booed. Those guys can live in the building while it is being renovated.
I would worry about a 2016-style false spring, but I think that’s wildly unlikely with a team this bad and no cap space
I'd rather have a GM hire, then let him spend a year evaluating and then let the bloodletting begin.
Has there been any/many interim GM beginning in the off season and on into the next year? It's one thing to have a mid-season temp replacement. Quite another to have one now.
All that ain’t happening before free agency. It might not happen before the Draft. And even if they could expedite the whole process without compromising quality, they will have missed the interview cycle for top front office and coaching talent.
The 2022 Giants will not be good. Even if they get lucky with injuries and random bounces, their ceiling is probably mediocrity. It’s fine with me if lame ducks like Kevin Abrams and Joe Judge and Daniel Jones and Saquon Barkley et al hang around for 17 games that will suck no matter who is out there getting booed. Those guys can live in the building while it is being renovated.
I would worry about a 2016-style false spring, but I think that’s wildly unlikely with a team this bad and no cap space
Companies like McKinsey, Bain, BCG, etc. can perform a full 360 even in the midst of a teardown reorg. There's no reason to put an interim GM in place, especially if the candidates for that role are potentially a key element of the org review.
Stay in Hollywood and chase starlets; Jawn and Chris are quite capable of screwing this all up on their own without outside assistance to screw it up even more.
Cmon, people really give a shit about this?
no one gives a shit.
its still hilarious that in-game they cut to a shot of tisch and he's making out with some piece of ass 40 years his junior.
and some giants fans think tisch is the guy who is going to come riding in on a white horse and save the day.
tisch couldn't care less and barely pays attention.