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Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/9/2022 2:57 pm
Maybe we never invoke the memory of this season again  
Dave in PA : 1/9/2022 2:59 pm : link
Amen
We are building  
bluesince56 : 1/9/2022 3:00 pm : link
a culture out there
Here is what is funny  
ZogZerg : 1/9/2022 3:00 pm : link
Someone hired Freddie Kitchens as a HC.

Zero creativity!
Just hand the ball to the dancer.
Anyone on BBI could coach the offense to be this bad.
There is literally no fucking way he can bring Joe Judge back.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 1/9/2022 3:01 pm : link
He’s embarrassed this franchise way too many times just in the past 8 days.
6 weeks or so ago, I assumed Judge would likely remain  
LG in NYC : 1/9/2022 3:01 pm : link
Now I can't believe for a second anyone would retain him after what we have seen recently.

This isn't a hard luck team, losing games in the 4th qtr b/c they just don't have enough players... this is a historically pathetic team that barely shows up week in and week out.

They are lost.

and none of this stink can remain for another season.
Good block Saquon  
Jimmy Googs : 1/9/2022 3:02 pm : link
.
.  
Danny Kanell : 1/9/2022 3:04 pm : link
This has to be rock bottom in the NFL. Has to be. It cannot get worse.
Defense ahas given up 2 FGs and  
Jimmy Googs : 1/9/2022 3:06 pm : link
the Giants are completely out of the game...
I think they need to pretty much gut  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/9/2022 3:07 pm : link
the team. A few starters worth keeping and some depth guys but they need to clean house. If Mara is steadfast on keeping Judge he better hire a outside GM and give him control. Let Judge coach the scraps for a year while the GM cleans the slop and drafts BPA. 2023 QB.

RE: .  
BH28 : 1/9/2022 3:08 pm : link
In comment 15538220 Danny Kanell said:
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This has to be rock bottom in the NFL. Has to be. It cannot get worse.


What is ridiculous is a team this bad is picking 5th in the draft. No way there are 4 teams better than the Giants.
Watching Redzone  
NNJ Tom : 1/9/2022 3:11 pm : link
The Jags and Texans would beat Giants.
That Td drive was enough for Mara to bring bak Judge  
Giantfan21 : 1/9/2022 3:13 pm : link
Fuck im not even joking
At least Gettleman is gone  
Go Terps : 1/9/2022 3:17 pm : link
They can replace him with a lamp and the collective IQ in the front office will go up.

Been an amazing four years.
RE: That Td drive was enough for Mara to bring bak Judge  
ZogZerg : 1/9/2022 3:18 pm : link
In comment 15538283 Giantfan21 said:
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Fuck im not even joking


The D will give up a score. They always do after O does something good.
Kelvin Benjamin  
Costy16 : 1/9/2022 3:21 pm : link
Was right all along.
Very Clutch drive  
Giantfan21 : 1/9/2022 3:22 pm : link
Ate up a lot of clock and Made it 2 scores again
carved up like swiss cheese  
mphbullet36 : 1/9/2022 3:23 pm : link
thank you for giving up giants defense
As expected  
ZogZerg : 1/9/2022 3:23 pm : link
Complimentary football...NOT
Double digit…  
bestt : 1/9/2022 3:24 pm : link
Loss… what do you know…
Can’t keep Judge  
Sammo85 : 1/9/2022 3:24 pm : link
He’s just not a HC. Period.
At least Minnesota caught up to Chicago  
90.Cal : 1/9/2022 3:27 pm : link
...
2 big games  
jmalls23 : 1/9/2022 3:28 pm : link
Bears tied and texans down 3. cmon!
RE: carved up like swiss cheese  
Mike from Ohio : 1/9/2022 3:28 pm : link
In comment 15538380 mphbullet36 said:
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thank you for giving up giants defense


The defense is the only unit that showed up today.

They give up their first TD with less than 7 minutes left in the game and our fans are getting on them??? Ridiculous.
The culture  
NYDCBlue : 1/9/2022 3:29 pm : link
We have players from every team in the league, AND THE CFL, begging to come and lose here!
Minnesota TD. So that is good.  
St. Jimmy : 1/9/2022 3:29 pm : link
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TD  
mphbullet36 : 1/9/2022 3:30 pm : link
Minny!!!!!
The next 72 hours will  
cosmicj : 1/9/2022 3:33 pm : link
Be way more exciting than this sorry game,
RE: Kelvin Benjamin  
81_Great_Dane : 1/9/2022 3:34 pm : link
In comment 15538364 Costy16 said:
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Was right all along.
I don't know that this is right. But, sadly, I don't know that it isn't, either.
Texans making a comeback too.....  
No Where Man : 1/9/2022 3:35 pm : link
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No one in this organization should have a job  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/9/2022 3:36 pm : link
Tomorrow.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/9/2022 3:36 pm : link

Dan Duggan

@DDuggan21

Dave Gettleman just walked past a group of reporters on his way to the locker room. Gettleman didn’t break stride when asked if he had anything to say.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/9/2022 3:36 pm : link

Jordan Raanan

@JordanRaanan

Dave Gettleman declined to say anything when asked for a comment as he left the press box and headed downstairs with about five minutes remaining. His record in 4 years as GM will be 19-46. #Giants
LET GO MINNY  
mphbullet36 : 1/9/2022 3:38 pm : link
PICK 6!!!!!!
Of course; coward  
Bavaro_the_Mafioso : 1/9/2022 3:39 pm : link
In comment 15538527 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Duggan

@DDuggan21

Dave Gettleman just walked past a group of reporters on his way to the locker room. Gettleman didn’t break stride when asked if he had anything to say.


And, no accountability.
Complimentary football  
thrunthrublue : 1/9/2022 3:39 pm : link
Offense defense and specials all SUCK. JJ should join DG tomorrow with extreme prejudice full stop.
RE: ...  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/9/2022 3:40 pm : link
In comment 15538527 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Duggan

@DDuggan21

Dave Gettleman just walked past a group of reporters on his way to the locker room. Gettleman didn’t break stride when asked if he had anything to say.


That's pretty weak. I understand he is leaving but he could have taken a few minutes to answer a couple questions.
RE: At least Gettleman is gone  
santacruzom : 1/9/2022 3:40 pm : link
In comment 15538334 Go Terps said:
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They can replace him with a lamp and the collective IQ in the front office will go up.

Been an amazing four years.


Think of all the defenders and apologists, and how defensive and/or downright offensive they were towards Gettleman's critics. So unbelievable, especially in hindsight.
Defense gave up 211 on the ground so far.  
larryflower37 : 1/9/2022 3:40 pm : link
Talking about how strong this defense is
Gettleman doesn't have to say anything  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/9/2022 3:41 pm : link
Anything that comes out of his mouth is horse manure anyway.
Judge Must Go  
Jeffrey : 1/9/2022 3:43 pm : link
His record, his staff, his BS post-game. Give the next GM freedom to pick his coach.
ANOTHER INT FOR MINNY  
mphbullet36 : 1/9/2022 3:43 pm : link
GAME OVER!
Worst  
AcidTest : 1/9/2022 3:43 pm : link
season I've ever seen. We were completely uncompetitive and comically bad for months.

The TD to Slayton was the first to a WR since October.
Our LT Thomas had more TD catches than Toney and Golladay combined.
Multiple games with no offensive TDs.
Minus 10 yards passing against the Bears.
Outscored 79 - 0 in the final two minutes of the half.
Terrible clock management and use of TOs.
Wretched STs, including the worst punter in the league.
Repeatedly refusing to go for it on fourth down on the plus side of the field.
Run defense that was repeatedly gashed.
No improvement in the OL.

Fire everyone.
Rome wasn’t built in  
JesseS : 1/9/2022 3:44 pm : link
Faw yeahs, dawling
RE: Watching Redzone  
islander1 : 1/9/2022 3:45 pm : link
In comment 15538268 NNJ Tom said:
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The Jags and Texans would beat Giants.


I definitely think the Jags can.
6 straight double digit losses.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/9/2022 3:45 pm : link
Promote Abrams! Retain JJ!
Jake Fromm Hunger  
Marty in Albany : 1/9/2022 3:45 pm : link
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RE: RE: Watching Redzone  
islander1 : 1/9/2022 3:46 pm : link
In comment 15538600 islander1 said:
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In comment 15538268 NNJ Tom said:


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The Jags and Texans would beat Giants.



I definitely think the Jags can.


Lions, too.
RE: Worst  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 1/9/2022 3:47 pm : link
In comment 15538593 AcidTest said:
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season I've ever seen. We were completely uncompetitive and comically bad for months.

The TD to Slayton was the first to a WR since October.
Our LT Thomas had more TD catches than Toney and Golladay combined.
Multiple games with no offensive TDs.
Minus 10 yards passing against the Bears.
Outscored 79 - 0 in the final two minutes of the half.
Terrible clock management and use of TOs.
Wretched STs, including the worst punter in the league.
Repeatedly refusing to go for it on fourth down on the plus side of the field.
Run defense that was repeatedly gashed.
No improvement in the OL.

Fire everyone.


When you put it in story form, it sounds bad.
Looking forward to seeing Dave Garbageman  
GiantSteps : 1/9/2022 3:47 pm : link
going out with the rest of the trash
200 hundred yards rushing  
kelly : 1/9/2022 3:48 pm : link
So glad we didn't quit
Time to do a full housecleaning  
OlyWABigBlue : 1/9/2022 3:49 pm : link
I expect nothing for next year but lets find and develop some real players. Maybe we can rinse the cap hell stink off next year too and productively prepare for 2023. 2023 will be a good year to have a top 3 pick with the projected QBs and Will Anderson.
They need to blow it all up!  
Simms11 : 1/9/2022 3:49 pm : link
They need to start this thing over. There’s a few decent pieces here. Let the new GM blow it up and let him do it his way. May take a few years, but I think fans would accept progress at this point, even if we have a losing record. I see nothing that gives me any confidence with Judge or this staff. Please do the right thing Giants!!
Let's go  
k2tampa : 1/9/2022 3:49 pm : link
Seahawks.
Fire. Everyone.  
Justlurking : 1/9/2022 3:50 pm : link
Anything less is a failure.
Touchdown Texans  
j_rud : 1/9/2022 3:50 pm : link
Down 4 with PAT pending
Hope the Jets  
cjac : 1/9/2022 3:50 pm : link
Win
Fromm looks better running than Jones *ducks*  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/9/2022 3:51 pm : link
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RE: RE: At least Gettleman is gone  
Go Terps : 1/9/2022 3:51 pm : link
In comment 15538571 santacruzom said:
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In comment 15538334 Go Terps said:


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They can replace him with a lamp and the collective IQ in the front office will go up.

Been an amazing four years.



Think of all the defenders and apologists, and how defensive and/or downright offensive they were towards Gettleman's critics. So unbelievable, especially in hindsight.


Yup. Incredible.
RE: Fromm looks better running than Jones *ducks*  
Go Terps : 1/9/2022 3:51 pm : link
In comment 15538633 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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At least he didn't run himself into an injury or trip over a yard line.
RE: RE: Fromm looks better running than Jones *ducks*  
BigBlueJ : 1/9/2022 3:52 pm : link
In comment 15538637 Go Terps said:
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In comment 15538633 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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At least he didn't run himself into an injury or trip over a yard line.


Being far, Fromm is a better athlete then Jones.
Perfect end  
jpkmets : 1/9/2022 3:53 pm : link
To this year
and thats that  
rocco8112 : 1/9/2022 3:53 pm : link
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Offensive coordinator  
Ivan15 : 1/9/2022 3:53 pm : link
I really don’t care if Judge goes or stays for one more year. I don’t care if Abrams goes or stays as interim GM. But get a new OC who has a feel for the flow of a game. Not using Penny on third and one or fourth and one is criminal when Penny is the only RB who has proven to be reliable. Barkley should have been the last guy to carry the ball in that situation.
I wouldn’t have guessed we would have scored 1TD today  
Simms11 : 1/9/2022 3:53 pm : link
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RE: RE: Fromm looks better running than Jones *ducks*  
BillKo : 1/9/2022 3:54 pm : link
In comment 15538637 Go Terps said:
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In comment 15538633 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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At least he didn't run himself into an injury or trip over a yard line.


Give him time, but i suggest you maybe watch the USFL this spring.
6 loses by 10 or more points  
larryflower37 : 1/9/2022 3:54 pm : link
New franchise record.
Judge definitely earned another year
What a ride  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/9/2022 3:54 pm : link
Don't forget to tip your waitress.


First Giants coach to 13 losses in a single season

6 straight blowout losses.
That one sack of Fromm  
djm : 1/9/2022 3:54 pm : link
With about 3 min left (if memory serves) on 3rd down, flags everywhere, all on NYG I might add, as he’s getting crunched by 3 wtf defenders, was the perfect encapsulating moment. I made my wife come in and watch that play again. I told her to behold the shittiest moment for the shitiest team. True dreadfulness. It was perfect.
There’s no way Judge can come back.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 1/9/2022 3:54 pm : link
No way at all.
Been watching the Giants since the late 80s…..  
UticaMike : 1/9/2022 3:55 pm : link
This is the lowest I’ve ever been as a fan.
.  
Go Terps : 1/9/2022 3:55 pm : link
What an absolutely catastrophic season.
Meanwhile the 2 win detroit lions are closing out a win against GB  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/9/2022 3:55 pm : link
Tell me how hard Joe Judge has em fighting.
RE: RE: At least Gettleman is gone  
ajr2456 : 1/9/2022 3:55 pm : link
In comment 15538571 santacruzom said:
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In comment 15538334 Go Terps said:


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They can replace him with a lamp and the collective IQ in the front office will go up.

Been an amazing four years.



Think of all the defenders and apologists, and how defensive and/or downright offensive they were towards Gettleman's critics. So unbelievable, especially in hindsight.


X100
Vikings won and so there’s that!  
Simms11 : 1/9/2022 3:56 pm : link
We at least will have two top 10 picks now and that could be huge.
Thanksful it's over.  
truebluelarry : 1/9/2022 3:56 pm : link
That season was about 12 weeks too long. I should've stopped watching after the win at New Orleans.
First Giants coach to lose 13 games in a season  
dpinzow : 1/9/2022 3:56 pm : link
First Giants team to lose 10 games or more by double digits in a season

Pending the Jacksonville game, could be the first time since 1953 the Giants finish last in the league in points scored (1953 was the only time in franchise history that happened)
Judge presser...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/9/2022 3:56 pm : link
Likely most entertaining thing all day.
Thank G-d this season is over.  
Matt M. : 1/9/2022 3:56 pm : link
Seriously, I would still fire Gettleman, instead of allowing a retirement announcement. Fire him now. He has been that bad.
........  
CoughlinHandsonHips : 1/9/2022 3:56 pm : link
Lot of better coaches with better performance than Judge getting fired.

Mara currently calling Accorsi on a landline to see who he recommends to Judge
Joe Must Go  
jeff57 : 1/9/2022 3:57 pm : link
,
Just a reminder  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/9/2022 3:57 pm : link
this team finished 0-6.
It’s finally over!  
Gap92 : 1/9/2022 3:57 pm : link
Every game the last 10 weeks has felt like a chore to watch.

Hoping for brighter days ahead.
Trying to look at the bright side of things  
OlyWABigBlue : 1/9/2022 3:58 pm : link
at least that mercy killing was under 3 hours.
the ending is appropriate....  
BillKo : 1/9/2022 3:58 pm : link
....and works out for the best as Judge, et. all should be fired......
It's over...we've made it. Mercifully, it's over.  
Anakim : 1/9/2022 3:58 pm : link
And now we wait...
RE: Vikings won and so there’s that!  
GFAN52 : 1/9/2022 3:58 pm : link
In comment 15538670 Simms11 said:
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We at least will have two top 10 picks now and that could be huge.


Really huge with Gettleman no longer making the decision on using the pose picks.
RE: .  
81_Great_Dane : 1/9/2022 3:58 pm : link
In comment 15538665 Go Terps said:
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What an absolutely catastrophic season.
The most dispiriting, depressing, disappointing season I can remember, and I remember the 1970s pretty well. A disaster from beginning to end and the team was unwatchable. At least in the 70s there was usually someone/something to root for on defense.

Absolutely wretched. The whole organization should be embarrassed to be putting out this product.
Yeah  
SomeFan : 1/9/2022 3:58 pm : link
this is a complete restart, clean house, tear it down, blow it up, whatever you want to call it. Anyone who says that is not right is fucking wrong.
Lions look  
k2tampa : 1/9/2022 3:59 pm : link
like they will win. If they do, those two last play Bears' wins cost us picking 4 and 5.
RE: Just a reminder  
Mike in NY : 1/9/2022 3:59 pm : link
In comment 15538684 Eric from BBI said:
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this team finished 0-6.


Watch Mara blame it on Jones’s injury never mind the fact that Detroit is scoring more with backups than we ever did with starters
RE: Just a reminder  
BigBlueJ : 1/9/2022 3:59 pm : link
In comment 15538684 Eric from BBI said:
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this team finished 0-6.


Each game lost by 10 points or more to add.
Look at DET  
LG in NYC : 1/9/2022 3:59 pm : link
Obviously a terrible season for them but that is a team that actually plays hard every week and if nothing else Dan Campbell and his staff left everything on the field today. While we ran a quarterback sneak on third and nine.
The Bears pick I think will be #7  
dpinzow : 1/9/2022 3:59 pm : link
I think Seattle's strength of schedule passes the Bears regardless of the result today. Not sure about Carolina, I don't think the Bears pick can move up to #6
Incredible how hard the Lions are playing  
pizbo : 1/9/2022 4:00 pm : link
Makes it sting even more. Not a single thing to be hopeful about going into next year.
Blow it all up  
ChathamMark : 1/9/2022 4:00 pm : link
then blow it up again...
RE: Look at DET  
AcidTest : 1/9/2022 4:00 pm : link
In comment 15538701 LG in NYC said:
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Obviously a terrible season for them but that is a team that actually plays hard every week and if nothing else Dan Campbell and his staff left everything on the field today. While we ran a quarterback sneak on third and nine.


^This. The Lions are playing hard and they have fewer wins than the Giants.
RE: Just a reminder  
bw in dc : 1/9/2022 4:01 pm : link
In comment 15538684 Eric from BBI said:
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this team finished 0-6.


Can't wait to hear Mara twist himself into knots trying to explain "improvement" if he inexplicably keeps Judge.
RE: Just a reminder  
HomerJones45 : 1/9/2022 4:01 pm : link
In comment 15538684 Eric from BBI said:
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this team finished 0-6.
All by 10+ points.

Judge is gone.
RE: RE: Just a reminder  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/9/2022 4:02 pm : link
In comment 15538712 bw in dc said:
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In comment 15538684 Eric from BBI said:


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this team finished 0-6.



Can't wait to hear Mara twist himself into knots trying to explain "improvement" if he inexplicably keeps Judge.


He can't. But I doubt he cares.
Question...  
bw in dc : 1/9/2022 4:02 pm : link
What was more embarrassing?

The game itself or the fact we have fans who actually went to the game?
If Judge doesn't have at least 1 10 minute rant  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/9/2022 4:02 pm : link
someone in the front office got to him.
RE: RE: Just a reminder  
Matt M. : 1/9/2022 4:02 pm : link
In comment 15538712 bw in dc said:
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In comment 15538684 Eric from BBI said:


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this team finished 0-6.



Can't wait to hear Mara twist himself into knots trying to explain "improvement" if he inexplicably keeps Judge.
Like the narrative of a strong finish last year, even though they lost 3 of their last 4?
Bears lose  
jeff57 : 1/9/2022 4:03 pm : link
Pick can’t be lower than 8
Updated....  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/9/2022 4:03 pm : link
...
New York Giants Annual Records and Team Accolades - ( New Window )
Another Update  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/9/2022 4:03 pm : link
...
New York Giants Coaching History - ( New Window )
Fire every salaried employee  
Les in TO : 1/9/2022 4:03 pm : link
DG, Abrams all the scouts all the family members and cronies, the team doctor, all the coaches, the marketing team who brought us Medium Pepsi Gate. This organization needs a complete tear down and rebuild.
Lions  
AcidTest : 1/9/2022 4:03 pm : link
win.
Thank God this season is ended. This team is the worst in the NFL  
Giant John : 1/9/2022 4:04 pm : link
I am hoping heads roll tomorrow.
RE: There’s no way Judge can come back.  
GruningsOnTheHill : 1/9/2022 4:04 pm : link
In comment 15538661 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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No way at all.

+1

Taking a knee on 2nd & 3rd down deep in their own end in the 2nd quarter was the point of no return. This guy should never coach another NFL game.
Tennessee beats Houston 28-25  
dpinzow : 1/9/2022 4:04 pm : link
The Giants first pick is either #4 (if the Jets win) or #5 (if the Jets lose)
RE: Just a reminder  
AcidTest : 1/9/2022 4:04 pm : link
In comment 15538684 Eric from BBI said:
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this team finished 0-6.


We scored seven TDs after the bye, and three of those were clearly in "garbage time."
Dottino is an absolute disgrace...  
EricJ : 1/9/2022 4:04 pm : link
doing everything he can to put a positive spin on the game.

This guy works for Hanlon. Speaking out of the corner of his mouth like Mary Jo Buttafuoco
RE: Lions  
HomerJones45 : 1/9/2022 4:04 pm : link
In comment 15538732 AcidTest said:
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win.
Lions finished 3-3 after starting the season 0-10-1
RE: Dottino is an absolute disgrace...  
Allen in CNJ : 1/9/2022 4:05 pm : link
In comment 15538741 EricJ said:
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doing everything he can to put a positive spin on the game.

This guy works for Hanlon. Speaking out of the corner of his mouth like Mary Jo Buttafuoco


Watching him now... What a disgrace and disaster
Houston loses  
jeff57 : 1/9/2022 4:05 pm : link
Unless Jets win, Giants will have the 5th pick.
RE: Fire every salaried employee  
Matt M. : 1/9/2022 4:05 pm : link
In comment 15538731 Les in TO said:
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DG, Abrams all the scouts all the family members and cronies, the team doctor, all the coaches, the marketing team who brought us Medium Pepsi Gate. This organization needs a complete tear down and rebuild.
+1 on this. I said this weeks ago. Honestly, I fire Gettleman right now and not let him get to the retirement annoucnement.
Whew...it’s over finally.  
Jimmy Googs : 1/9/2022 4:05 pm : link
Now let’s move onto the more interesting part of the year...the offseason
Golladay looked like he  
Bill in UT : 1/9/2022 4:05 pm : link
alligator-armed that long pass, and then stepped out to avoid contact on the short ball. Disappointing
What is P Dot-Baghdad Bob-  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/9/2022 4:06 pm : link
Saying now?
Doug Pederson's Eagles tried harder vs Washington  
dpinzow : 1/9/2022 4:06 pm : link
in the 2020 season finale than Judge's Giants did against Washington in the 2021 season finale
Mike Francesa  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/9/2022 4:06 pm : link
Giants just a complete embarrassment. A non-competitive team on offense in every way.
RE: ...  
Bill in UT : 1/9/2022 4:07 pm : link
In comment 15538527 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Duggan

@DDuggan21

Dave Gettleman just walked past a group of reporters on his way to the locker room. Gettleman didn’t break stride when asked if he had anything to say.


He wanted to make sure he got to the locker room before all the donuts were gone
I'm glad we saw Fromm.  
Matt M. : 1/9/2022 4:07 pm : link
At least now we know for sure he's not an NFL QB. We already knew how bad Glennon was and really didn't need any more of him after his first game action. Now, there should be no question; we have no QB other than Jones on this roster.
Judge quit on the team  
kdog77 : 1/9/2022 4:08 pm : link
he needs to be sent packing along with Gettleman, Petit and any scion of the Mara family tree.
LOL...  
BillKo : 1/9/2022 4:08 pm : link
...still higher than Shumur. Yikes!
RE: RE: ...  
Les in TO : 1/9/2022 4:09 pm : link
In comment 15538763 Bill in UT said:
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In comment 15538527 Eric from BBI said:


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Dan Duggan

@DDuggan21

Dave Gettleman just walked past a group of reporters on his way to the locker room. Gettleman didn’t break stride when asked if he had anything to say.



He wanted to make sure he got to the locker room before all the donuts were gone
lol.
Judge press conference is on  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/9/2022 4:10 pm : link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8HdfbWBkyE&ab_channel=NewYorkGiants
At least we don't have to watch the Giants for  
St. Jimmy : 1/9/2022 4:10 pm : link
8 months. What an awful season.
Incredible  
ajr2456 : 1/9/2022 4:10 pm : link
They’re letting Dave retire with all his family at the game like he’s some hero. Embarrassing
RE: Incredible  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/9/2022 4:11 pm : link
In comment 15538783 ajr2456 said:
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They’re letting Dave retire with all his family at the game like he’s some hero. Embarrassing


Disgraceful.
Jones may not be the answer  
fkap : 1/9/2022 4:11 pm : link
but it's really, really, really hard to win with Glennon/Fromm. It completely destroys the ability to conduct any semblance of an offense.

I don't want to throw out excuses, or imply I want Judge back, but one has to accept the effect from losing DJ down the stretch.
Judge is keeping it short so far, lmao  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/9/2022 4:11 pm : link
Someone got in his ear.
Giants somehow avoid finishing last in the NFL in points scored  
dpinzow : 1/9/2022 4:12 pm : link
They finished 31st with 258

Jacksonville finished dead last with 253. They had a rookie QB and Urban Meyer as their coach most of the season
RE: RE: Just a reminder  
j_rud : 1/9/2022 4:12 pm : link
In comment 15538700 BigBlueJ said:
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this team finished 0-6.



Each game lost by 10 points or more to add.


Took the past month to match league average points per game.
Nothing left to say.  
bceagle05 : 1/9/2022 4:12 pm : link
Hope Mara finally does what needs to be done.
Woot  
Spider43 : 1/9/2022 4:12 pm : link
T-1.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/9/2022 4:14 pm : link
Ralph Vacchiano

@RVacchianoSNY
Replying to @RVacchianoSNY
Asked how close the Giants are to contending, Joe Judge referred to his 11-minute answer last week and said again "I know that we're closer than we are further away."
Past/future  
Snifflenick : 1/9/2022 4:14 pm : link
Have been a Gmen fan for sixty years. Had the honor of a lifetime to serve as a ballboy during a portion of Tarkenton era. I have seen just about everything the Giants have done during that time.
I don’t believe in bashing too many players as I saw up front and personal what they go through to play NFL football. Coaching as well is demanding and all consuming to the ultra successful. I did and have learned the difference between success vs. mediocrity. It clearly involves the right personnel, meticulous coaching, ultimate dedication, developing and demanding an excellent team attitude and yes good luck. The Gmen are obviously not in success mode. As a businessman, I know the keys to success reside in the pocket of the top dog. I am no scout and do not pretend to have the answers needed to turn things around. I can assure all that winning will not happen without the right attitude and that comes from leadership. The team must revamp its leadership, talent evaluation, coaching and training routines. The coach is right about one thing; success comes from the right culture. Without culture change from top to bottom, mediocrity is the only space this team will occupy for the foreseeable future.
RE: Judge quit on the team  
EricJ : 1/9/2022 4:14 pm : link
In comment 15538768 kdog77 said:
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he needs to be sent packing along with Gettleman, Petit and any scion of the Mara family tree.


another baseless comment. you can say Judge is not effective and is not a good coach. But he quit? Do you know how many hours he put into the game plan at the facility this week?
Washington vs. Philly season finale was 20-14 Washington  
dpinzow : 1/9/2022 4:15 pm : link
That was the game where Pederson was called out for throwing the game

There were several plays in this 22-7 loss where Giants players weren't trying
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/9/2022 4:15 pm : link
Zack Rosenblatt

@ZackBlatt
Joe Judge said he expects to meet with John Mara for a usual end of season meeting at some point this week. Judge won’t discuss his job security with us. #Giants
RE: Giants somehow avoid finishing last in the NFL in points scored  
EricJ : 1/9/2022 4:15 pm : link
In comment 15538791 dpinzow said:
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They finished 31st with 258

Jacksonville finished dead last with 253. They had a rookie QB ..


We had people here saying we should "tank for Trevor"
Just fire him  
ajr2456 : 1/9/2022 4:15 pm : link
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Joe Judge said he ran those two QB sneaks deep in their own territory because he wanted to create space for when they punted it on fourth down. #Giants
RE: ...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/9/2022 4:16 pm : link
In comment 15538814 Eric from BBI said:
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Ralph Vacchiano

@RVacchianoSNY
Replying to @RVacchianoSNY
Asked how close the Giants are to contending, Joe Judge referred to his 11-minute answer last week and said again "I know that we're closer than we are further away."


Oh. My. God.
RE: Jones may not be the answer  
HomerJones45 : 1/9/2022 4:16 pm : link
In comment 15538788 fkap said:
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but it's really, really, really hard to win with Glennon/Fromm. It completely destroys the ability to conduct any semblance of an offense.

I don't want to throw out excuses, or imply I want Judge back, but one has to accept the effect from losing DJ down the stretch.
Ok, I get that, but how about be competitive? When a 6-10 team comes to town and plays you like they are a 10-6 team just trying to eke out a win and ends up winning by 15. Detroit won today and the Packers played their starters for a half. Jacksonville showed up and may end up keeping the Colts out of the playoffs. The Texans with the immortal Davis Mills put up 25 or so against the Titans.

We aren't just talking about winning; it's 6 embarrassing non-competitive losses in a row with lots of the players looking like they don't care.
RE: RE: Giants somehow avoid finishing last in the NFL in points scored  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/9/2022 4:17 pm : link
In comment 15538826 EricJ said:
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They finished 31st with 258

Jacksonville finished dead last with 253. They had a rookie QB ..



We had people here saying we should "tank for Trevor"


You're looking at that stat and the first thing that comes to mind about Jacksonville is that Trevor Lawrence isn't good?
RE: RE: Judge quit on the team  
Go Terps : 1/9/2022 4:17 pm : link
In comment 15538816 EricJ said:
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he needs to be sent packing along with Gettleman, Petit and any scion of the Mara family tree.



another baseless comment. you can say Judge is not effective and is not a good coach. But he quit? Do you know how many hours he put into the game plan at the facility this week?


The offensive game plan was non-competitive. You see other teams bring in backup QBs and move the ball and score points. This offense could barely execute a forward pass. It was a complete fucking joke.

If Judge spent many hours putting together this offense then its a wonder he's even employed.
Well I love the honesty lol...  
j_rud : 1/9/2022 4:17 pm : link
Q: what have you learned in year 2?
JJ: I think I've learned more of what NOT to do...
RE: ...  
The_Boss : 1/9/2022 4:17 pm : link
In comment 15538814 Eric from BBI said:
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Ralph Vacchiano

@RVacchianoSNY
Replying to @RVacchianoSNY
Asked how close the Giants are to contending, Joe Judge referred to his 11-minute answer last week and said again "I know that we're closer than we are further away."


😆😆

Just heard that. Which NFC playoff team are they “close” to??
RE: Just fire him  
dpinzow : 1/9/2022 4:17 pm : link
In comment 15538827 ajr2456 said:
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Joe Judge said he ran those two QB sneaks deep in their own territory because he wanted to create space for when they punted it on fourth down. #Giants



OK, so he wasn't playing to win the game. I want to hear Doug Pederson's thoughts, because he was fired for something similar (and Pederson won a Super Bowl)
RE: RE: ...  
Anakim : 1/9/2022 4:18 pm : link
In comment 15538830 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Ralph Vacchiano

@RVacchianoSNY
Replying to @RVacchianoSNY
Asked how close the Giants are to contending, Joe Judge referred to his 11-minute answer last week and said again "I know that we're closer than we are further away."



Oh. My. God.


How?!?!? HOW?!?!?!

Holy fuck. I can't stand this guy.
RE: RE: RE: Judge quit on the team  
EricJ : 1/9/2022 4:18 pm : link
In comment 15538838 Go Terps said:
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he needs to be sent packing along with Gettleman, Petit and any scion of the Mara family tree.



another baseless comment. you can say Judge is not effective and is not a good coach. But he quit? Do you know how many hours he put into the game plan at the facility this week?



The offensive game plan was non-competitive. You see other teams bring in backup QBs and move the ball and score points. This offense could barely execute a forward pass. It was a complete fucking joke.

If Judge spent many hours putting together this offense then its a wonder he's even employed.


again.. being ineffective and incompetent is far different than quitting. That needs to be explained to you too?
no rants this week  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/9/2022 4:19 pm : link
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RE: ...  
j_rud : 1/9/2022 4:19 pm : link
In comment 15538814 Eric from BBI said:
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Ralph Vacchiano

@RVacchianoSNY
Replying to @RVacchianoSNY
Asked how close the Giants are to contending, Joe Judge referred to his 11-minute answer last week and said again "I know that we're closer than we are further away."


We're closer to the moon than we are the sun. But it's still 240 thousand miles away.
O'Hara  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/9/2022 4:21 pm : link
"There are a lot of us former players and alumni that are upset and disappointed".
I'm so embarrassed  
Mike from SI : 1/9/2022 4:21 pm : link
to be a fan of this team.
RE: RE: RE: Giants somehow avoid finishing last in the NFL in points scored  
EricJ : 1/9/2022 4:21 pm : link
In comment 15538835 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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They finished 31st with 258

Jacksonville finished dead last with 253. They had a rookie QB ..



We had people here saying we should "tank for Trevor"



You're looking at that stat and the first thing that comes to mind about Jacksonville is that Trevor Lawrence isn't good?


No, I never said he was not good. In fact, you need to look at it like he MAY be good but he is not in a good situation. People thought drafting the kid was the answer to our problems. If he was our starting QB this year, we would likely have the same number of wins.
RE: Judge quit on the team  
Red Right Hand : 1/9/2022 4:21 pm : link
In comment 15538768 kdog77 said:
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he needs to be sent packing along with Gettleman, Petit and any scion of the Mara family tree.

...And that's the most damning part, that after all the talk, the sermons and diatribes, it was HE who quit.
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BigBlueJ : 1/9/2022 4:22 pm : link
Thank you Eric!
RE: Just fire him  
bw in dc : 1/9/2022 4:25 pm : link
In comment 15538827 ajr2456 said:
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Joe Judge said he ran those two QB sneaks deep in their own territory because he wanted to create space for when they punted it on fourth down. #Giants


JFC. He's worried about punting on second down instead of trying to get a first down in a lost season.

That answer alone should seal his fate.

Today's game was an EXHIBITION GAME to try different things because they game DID NOT MATTER.



RE: RE: Just fire him  
j_rud : 1/9/2022 4:25 pm : link
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Joe Judge said he ran those two QB sneaks deep in their own territory because he wanted to create space for when they punted it on fourth down. #Giants





OK, so he wasn't playing to win the game. I want to hear Doug Pederson's thoughts, because he was fired for something similar (and Pederson won a Super Bowl)


Pederson wasn't fired for throwing a game. Management in all likelihood signed off on it if it wasn't their idea outright. He was fired because he was being given directives on his staff and he responded with an ultimatum.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Giants somehow avoid finishing last in the NFL in points scored  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/9/2022 4:26 pm : link
In comment 15538875 EricJ said:
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They finished 31st with 258

Jacksonville finished dead last with 253. They had a rookie QB ..



We had people here saying we should "tank for Trevor"



You're looking at that stat and the first thing that comes to mind about Jacksonville is that Trevor Lawrence isn't good?



No, I never said he was not good. In fact, you need to look at it like he MAY be good but he is not in a good situation. People thought drafting the kid was the answer to our problems. If he was our starting QB this year, we would likely have the same number of wins.



Well sure, but that's an oversimplification. Eli Manning didn't solve the Giants' problems as a rookie either.

Having a QB that you can be confident in going forward is a big part of fixing it. Same as when people felt good about Jones in 2018.
RE: Jones may not be the answer  
Section331 : 1/9/2022 4:37 pm : link
In comment 15538788 fkap said:
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but it's really, really, really hard to win with Glennon/Fromm. It completely destroys the ability to conduct any semblance of an offense.

I don't want to throw out excuses, or imply I want Judge back, but one has to accept the effect from losing DJ down the stretch.


Judge was all on board with signing Glennon and letting McCoy walk.
Judge is talking like he feels like he is going to be back  
Essex : 1/9/2022 4:39 pm : link
keeps referencing next season. I can’t believe he hasn’t been fired already
RE: Giants somehow avoid finishing last in the NFL in points scored  
GeofromNJ : 1/9/2022 4:39 pm : link
In comment 15538791 dpinzow said:
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They finished 31st with 258

Jacksonville finished dead last with 253. They had a rookie QB and Urban Meyer as their coach most of the season

Giants would have finished dead last if Jacksonville had fired Meyer sooner.
RE: Judge is talking like he feels like he is going to be back  
Anakim : 1/9/2022 4:41 pm : link
In comment 15538965 Essex said:
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keeps referencing next season. I can’t believe he hasn’t been fired already


He's delusional
RE: RE: Giants somehow avoid finishing last in the NFL in points scored  
jeff57 : 1/9/2022 4:43 pm : link
In comment 15538966 GeofromNJ said:
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They finished 31st with 258

Jacksonville finished dead last with 253. They had a rookie QB and Urban Meyer as their coach most of the season


Giants would have finished dead last if Jacksonville had fired Meyer sooner.


Wouldn’t had Jones not gotten hurt.
RE: RE: RE: Giants somehow avoid finishing last in the NFL in points scored  
The_Boss : 1/9/2022 4:48 pm : link
In comment 15538985 jeff57 said:
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They finished 31st with 258

Jacksonville finished dead last with 253. They had a rookie QB and Urban Meyer as their coach most of the season


Giants would have finished dead last if Jacksonville had fired Meyer sooner.



Wouldn’t had Jones not gotten hurt.


Stop..Jones sucks. Maybe they average 3-6 points more per game had he stayed healthy? Who fucking cares?
RE: Jones may not be the answer  
Go Terps : 1/9/2022 4:50 pm : link
In comment 15538788 fkap said:
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but it's really, really, really hard to win with Glennon/Fromm. It completely destroys the ability to conduct any semblance of an offense.

I don't want to throw out excuses, or imply I want Judge back, but one has to accept the effect from losing DJ down the stretch.


Each of the Giants' opponents in the last 6 games scored at least 20 points, a number which has been a barrier for the Giants' offense with Jones as QB. Even if Jones had not gotten hurt they likely still finish 4-13.
RE: Judge is talking like he feels like he is going to be back  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/9/2022 4:52 pm : link
In comment 15538965 Essex said:
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keeps referencing next season. I can’t believe he hasn’t been fired already


Because Mara is even more of a clown than JJ.
I think Mara hasn't decided to fire him.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/9/2022 4:57 pm : link
These 6 losses have been shockingly poor, and so has his behavior.

It's enough to make him think about it. Before now it was probably not happening.
RE: I think Mara hasn't decided to fire him.  
Mike from Ohio : 1/9/2022 4:59 pm : link
In comment 15539035 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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These 6 losses have been shockingly poor, and so has his behavior.

It's enough to make him think about it. Before now it was probably not happening.


Agree with this. The rant last week combined with how uncompetitive the team has been has almost forced him to seriously consider it.

Even if you don’t fire him you have to at least say “we’ll bring in a new GM and then make a decision on Judge.” You can’t build your team around this clown.
 
christian : 1/9/2022 5:02 pm : link
A well ran organization would require Judge to informally interview with the new GM.
RE: RE: I think Mara hasn't decided to fire him.  
Matt M. : 1/9/2022 5:03 pm : link
In comment 15539042 Mike from Ohio said:
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These 6 losses have been shockingly poor, and so has his behavior.

It's enough to make him think about it. Before now it was probably not happening.



Agree with this. The rant last week combined with how uncompetitive the team has been has almost forced him to seriously consider it.

Even if you don’t fire him you have to at least say “we’ll bring in a new GM and then make a decision on Judge.” You can’t build your team around this clown.
Worse than the record over the last 6 weeks, the way Judge has carried himself should be enough. The best I would give him would be hire a new GM and give that person a week or so to decide on the coach. Let them make the decision to keep Judge or not, with no input whatsoever from ownership. I'm pretty sure just about any GM worth anything would take less than the allotted time to let him go.
RE: RE: Giants somehow avoid finishing last in the NFL in points scored  
Photoguy : 1/9/2022 5:27 pm : link
In comment 15538826 EricJ said:
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They finished 31st with 258

Jacksonville finished dead last with 253. They had a rookie QB ..



We had people here saying we should "tank for Trevor"


Well, it could always be "Get mangled for Manning". JK.
RE: RE: Jones may not be the answer  
clatterbuck : 1/9/2022 5:28 pm : link
In comment 15538833 HomerJones45 said:
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but it's really, really, really hard to win with Glennon/Fromm. It completely destroys the ability to conduct any semblance of an offense.

I don't want to throw out excuses, or imply I want Judge back, but one has to accept the effect from losing DJ down the stretch.

Ok, I get that, but how about be competitive? When a 6-10 team comes to town and plays you like they are a 10-6 team just trying to eke out a win and ends up winning by 15. Detroit won today and the Packers played their starters for a half. Jacksonville showed up and may end up keeping the Colts out of the playoffs. The Texans with the immortal Davis Mills put up 25 or so against the Titans.

We aren't just talking about winning; it's 6 embarrassing non-competitive losses in a row with lots of the players looking like they don't care.


Glenn, Fromm, and everyone who played on the offensive line not named Andrew Thomas. The decisions that put those players on the field determined this course after Jones went down.
They’re letting Dave retire ...  
Trainmaster : 1/9/2022 5:35 pm : link
They should have set up a dunk tank and have every fan be able to take a shot at him.
The half alone is indefensible  
SMitch-56 : 1/9/2022 5:38 pm : link
What is it, last 2 minutes heading into the half, something like 79-0? That right there should be full-stop fireable. It has to be some kind of horrid record and it just cannot in any way shape or form be defended.
Cannot believe  
Debaser : 1/9/2022 5:42 pm : link
The jones pumpers are using this as an opportunity

Jones sucks. Why was this team an offensive juggernaut with jones? He had 1 TDs in the year.

The fact he wasn’t on the field is all his fault anyway.
11*  
Debaser : 1/9/2022 5:42 pm : link
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It's 2018 again  
Go Terps : 1/9/2022 6:10 pm : link
The Giants entered 2018 primed to start over with a new GM, new head coach, and new quarterback. They bungled that spectacularly and have nothing to show for these past four years.

Here we are again. New GM, new head coach, new quarterback.

Four years just thrown away.
I have been watching the Giants since 1959. I have never ever seen  
Rick in Dallas : 1/9/2022 6:12 pm : link
The Giants disrespect their own players like they did today running 2 straight QB sneaks inside their own 5 yard line today.
Total embarrassment to a once proud football organization.
Worse than anything I saw in 1966.
Come alive in 25?  
MauiYankee : 1/9/2022 6:32 pm : link
Barkley echoing Ernie Wheelwright in the middle of a Tucker Fredrickson career.
Mediocre O-line.
Maybe:
Wait til next decade?
There are mediocore Division II schools that can beat the Giants right  
MartyNJ1969 : 1/9/2022 6:32 pm : link
now. Slippery Rock University can beat this Giants team.
So glad it's over and  
thedogfather : 1/9/2022 6:34 pm : link
this loss happened almost exactly how I wanted. I think the only way Judge had a chance to go would be if he did something wacky and embarrassing and the QB sneaks might have been it. And the stadium was half empty. I just wished Washington scored one more TD and we didn't get that Fromm to Slay fluke TD.

But I'm mentally drained. This season broke me.
RE: It's 2018 again  
christian : 1/9/2022 6:40 pm : link
In comment 15539278 Go Terps said:
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Here we are again. New GM, new head coach, new quarterback.


Mara’s playing a perpetual game of “pick two.”

You always gotta have continuity. Always.
RE: It's 2018 again  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/9/2022 7:40 pm : link
In comment 15539278 Go Terps said:
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The Giants entered 2018 primed to start over with a new GM, new head coach, and new quarterback. They bungled that spectacularly and have nothing to show for these past four years.

Here we are again. New GM, new head coach, new quarterback.

Four years just thrown away.


Missing on a QB pick sets your team back 5 years as they say.
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