Are precisely who we should be most worried about right now. If they want judge gone it's probably because their jobs would feel more safe. Not exactly encouraging.
I haven't actually seen the clip, but someone wrote above its the players who want him out.
If it's the players then my point is moot. If it's folks like Petit or Abrams that's just as big of a problem.
Are precisely who we should be most worried about right now. If they want judge gone it's probably because their jobs would feel more safe. Not exactly encouraging.
I haven't actually seen the clip, but someone wrote above its the players who want him out.
If it's the players then my point is moot. If it's folks like Petit or Abrams that's just as big of a problem.
Yea I agree. I'd like to actually watch what he said.
“ "They want him gone." - @JayGlazer on people inside the Giants building on head coach Joe Judge ”
Who are the people inside the building? Seems like at least a couple people inside the building have the power to make a decision on his future being they are the ones who sign his checks.
Meanwhile he quoites glazier, but I ccan't find a link or reference to it anywhere else. Is he paraphrasing, or did Glazier say that, and if so, where?
Giants issues are far deeper than the HC. Been canning HC’s and GM’s for six years. Don’t let ownership off the hook.
who's letting them off the hook. The Mara's aren't going anywhere you can fire the owners. The only hope is if they give the keys to the new GM and Chris Mara + Mcdonnell are out of player personnel.
As I have said many times, the Giants will not start winning again till they start winning the physical battle of a NFL game. The Giants started this losing when they shifted years ago. Look at the recent draft and FA acquisitions and the trend continues. Mara may not get his family members out but he could maybe start with saying, “I think I’ve seen enough of this franchise being pushed around. It needs to stop now.”
That’s the GMs job. Everyone on planet earth knows they need a better line, DG failed at it, not ownership.
the HC, QB, GM and getting rid of any or all them will fix it. The issues run far deeper so don’t expect better results without first addressing and fixing the root causes. Pretty simple concept Eric.
Ownership structure isn’t changing so I guess it’s a doomed franchise for all of eternity?
The ownership structure didn’t change when Young would brought in and Wellington got out of personnel
Up on ownership. Complain all you want but most of us were thrilled when they went outside the box and got Judge and most of us were snowballed by Judge's words/speeches.
Right now cleaning house of a GM who thought his connections to our previous SB teams meant he was the guy to get us back and a Coach who bullshitted his way into a job he was not ready for, is the way to go.
Then once we get folks in place for those jobs, we get a full coaching staff and start planning player acquisition based on our new scheme/identity.
“ "They want him gone." - @JayGlazer on people inside the Giants building on head coach Joe Judge ”
Who are the people inside the building? Seems like at least a couple people inside the building have the power to make a decision on his future being they are the ones who sign his checks.
Meanwhile he quoites glazier, but I ccan't find a link or reference to it anywhere else. Is he paraphrasing, or did Glazier say that, and if so, where?
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Jay Glazer just said he was at 50% certainty on Joe Judge returning as #Giants coach before today. Now he’s down to 25%.
he is best friends with Strahan. Does anyone think Strahan wants Judge gone so this team improves? Would he have his friend Jay help push this thing over the edge here?
he is best friends with Strahan. Does anyone think Strahan wants Judge gone so this team improves? Would he have his friend Jay help push this thing over the edge here?
What? Some of you are bewildering. As if you never heard of JAY GLAZIER.
Are precisely who we should be most worried about right now. If they want judge gone it's probably because their jobs would feel more safe. Not exactly encouraging.
I haven't actually seen the clip, but someone wrote above its the players who want him out.
I can’t imagine players looked to kindly at those QB sneaks.
jay glazer is a loud mouth, fat, ugly, bad dressing ignoramus who does
not understand probability and the different approaches to arriving at probable conclusions. He and he has compatriots on the tube are one of the reasons i have been losing my interest in sports.
Are precisely who we should be most worried about right now. If they want judge gone it's probably because their jobs would feel more safe. Not exactly encouraging.
I haven't actually seen the clip, but someone wrote above its the players who want him out.
If it's the players then my point is moot. If it's folks like Petit or Abrams that's just as big of a problem.
Yea I agree. I'd like to actually watch what he said.
What the poster reports as being said I can't find, in the comments available that Glazier has made today, so I'm not sure he actually said what's being claimed.
Up on ownership. Complain all you want but most of us were thrilled when they went outside the box and got Judge and most of us were snowballed by Judge's words/speeches.
Right now cleaning house of a GM who thought his connections to our previous SB teams meant he was the guy to get us back and a Coach who bullshitted his way into a job he was not ready for, is the way to go.
Then once we get folks in place for those jobs, we get a full coaching staff and start planning player acquisition based on our new scheme/identity.
Folks get hung up on ownership because it's been the one constant, and with this team it's been really constant in the administrative and scouting departments, like three decades kind of constant. New GMs and coaches are great but if you're hellbent on retaining lifers and family members. Philosophies don't change and things stagnate and eventually rot.
Are precisely who we should be most worried about right now. If they want judge gone it's probably because their jobs would feel more safe. Not exactly encouraging.
I haven't actually seen the clip, but someone wrote above its the players who want him out.
If it's the players then my point is moot. If it's folks like Petit or Abrams that's just as big of a problem.
Yea I agree. I'd like to actually watch what he said.
What the poster reports as being said I can't find, in the comments available that Glazier has made today, so I'm not sure he actually said what's being claimed.
Giants issues are far deeper than the HC. Been canning HC’s and GM’s for six years. Don’t let ownership off the hook.
What does this even mean?
I think it means that owners and owners nephews who have held front office positions while the team has been dreadful need to go too. Which is true but not realistic. Judge being canned will satisfy my blood lust. For now
the HC, QB, GM and getting rid of any or all them will fix it. The issues run far deeper so don’t expect better results without first addressing and fixing the root causes. Pretty simple concept Eric.
Ownership structure isn’t changing so I guess it’s a doomed franchise for all of eternity?
That seems to be the implication, unless he's advocating for extra-judicial measures to remove ownership. I don't see a way to force them to do our bidding legally.
Coach. But he’s further proof that Belichick’s success is unique and you can’t assume anyone who breathed the same air is going to replicate his results.
Talkin Giants has it. He did indeed say he spoke to people in the locker room who want him gone.
Thanks. He said "people inside the locker room" want him gone which probably means players rather, than the "building" which would infer perhaps other staff.
Talkin Giants has it. He did indeed say he spoke to people in the locker room who want him gone.
Thanks. He said "people inside the locker room" want him gone which probably means players rather, than the "building" which would infer perhaps other staff.
What? Some of you are bewildering. As if you never heard of JAY GLAZIER.
yeah, I have no idea who Jay Glazier is. However Jay Glazer, a supposed insider to come out on Twitter saying 50/50 says he does not know shit. Everyone here says it is 50/50. We dont need Glazer for that.
The decision has already been made by Mara. It is either 100% he stays or 100% he goes. If Jay knows the scoop... then he would tell us... but he doesn't.
Talkin Giants has it. He did indeed say he spoke to people in the locker room who want him gone.
Thanks. He said "people inside the locker room" want him gone which probably means players rather, than the "building" which would infer perhaps other staff.
This makes Carl Banks’ shilling that more embarrassing. For 3 weeks he’s talked about “culture and how he hasn’t lost the locker room.” Last week he talked about player development under Judge and listed Thomas, McKinney, Lemeuix (when called out he said he meant Gates) AZeez, cam brown and Elerson Smith. I wonder who state media pivots too in their pathetic rara effort to shift the blame from the man who signs their paycheck
not understand probability and the different approaches to arriving at probable conclusions. He and he has compatriots on the tube are one of the reasons i have been losing my interest in sports.
This is a really bad take and you obviously don’t know much about Jay Glazer. Ignorance is bliss I suppose.
What? Some of you are bewildering. As if you never heard of JAY GLAZIER.
yeah, I have no idea who Jay Glazier is. However Jay Glazer, a supposed insider to come out on Twitter saying 50/50 says he does not know shit. Everyone here says it is 50/50. We dont need Glazer for that.
The decision has already been made by Mara. It is either 100% he stays or 100% he goes. If Jay knows the scoop... then he would tell us... but he doesn't.
Is friends with Strahan and lots of players. He’s well connected in the NY sports landscape.
I can tell you right now he’s likely a guy who has direct contacts with guys like Leonard Williams and Logan Ryan. Intuitively, my gut tells me Williams is probably one of the players ticked off.
Handley was 14-18 so there is no comparison. Went to my first game in1976 McVay was coach for the next couple of years Who was very bad and he went 14-23 and I thought it could never get worse!!?
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Are precisely who we should be most worried about right now. If they want judge gone it's probably because their jobs would feel more safe. Not exactly encouraging.
I haven't actually seen the clip, but someone wrote above its the players who want him out.
If it's the players then my point is moot. If it's folks like Petit or Abrams that's just as big of a problem.
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Are precisely who we should be most worried about right now. If they want judge gone it's probably because their jobs would feel more safe. Not exactly encouraging.
I haven't actually seen the clip, but someone wrote above its the players who want him out.
If it's the players then my point is moot. If it's folks like Petit or Abrams that's just as big of a problem.
Yea I agree. I'd like to actually watch what he said.
Is this a new rumor?
Who are the people inside the building? Seems like at least a couple people inside the building have the power to make a decision on his future being they are the ones who sign his checks.
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Giants issues are far deeper than the HC. Been canning HC’s and GM’s for six years. Don’t let ownership off the hook.
who's letting them off the hook. The Mara's aren't going anywhere you can fire the owners. The only hope is if they give the keys to the new GM and Chris Mara + Mcdonnell are out of player personnel.
As I have said many times, the Giants will not start winning again till they start winning the physical battle of a NFL game. The Giants started this losing when they shifted years ago. Look at the recent draft and FA acquisitions and the trend continues. Mara may not get his family members out but he could maybe start with saying, “I think I’ve seen enough of this franchise being pushed around. It needs to stop now.”
That’s the GMs job. Everyone on planet earth knows they need a better line, DG failed at it, not ownership.
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the HC, QB, GM and getting rid of any or all them will fix it. The issues run far deeper so don’t expect better results without first addressing and fixing the root causes. Pretty simple concept Eric.
Ownership structure isn’t changing so I guess it’s a doomed franchise for all of eternity?
The ownership structure didn’t change when Young would brought in and Wellington got out of personnel
It will be ugly, but Mara has run this franchise into the ground.
Today was another disgrace.
4 years to 2, so maybe only half as bad...
Right now cleaning house of a GM who thought his connections to our previous SB teams meant he was the guy to get us back and a Coach who bullshitted his way into a job he was not ready for, is the way to go.
Then once we get folks in place for those jobs, we get a full coaching staff and start planning player acquisition based on our new scheme/identity.
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Giants issues are far deeper than the HC. Been canning HC’s and GM’s for six years. Don’t let ownership off the hook.
What does this even mean?
Bring someone from the outside
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“ "They want him gone." - @JayGlazer on people inside the Giants building on head coach Joe Judge ”
Who are the people inside the building? Seems like at least a couple people inside the building have the power to make a decision on his future being they are the ones who sign his checks.
Meanwhile he quoites glazier, but I ccan't find a link or reference to it anywhere else. Is he paraphrasing, or did Glazier say that, and if so, where?
Zack Rosenblatt
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@ZackBlatt
Jay Glazer just said he was at 50% certainty on Joe Judge returning as #Giants coach before today. Now he’s down to 25%.
That's hard to believe. Didn't he hand-pick the entire staff from his prior relationships?
What? Some of you are bewildering. As if you never heard of JAY GLAZIER.
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Are precisely who we should be most worried about right now. If they want judge gone it's probably because their jobs would feel more safe. Not exactly encouraging.
I haven't actually seen the clip, but someone wrote above its the players who want him out.
I can’t imagine players looked to kindly at those QB sneaks.
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Are precisely who we should be most worried about right now. If they want judge gone it's probably because their jobs would feel more safe. Not exactly encouraging.
I haven't actually seen the clip, but someone wrote above its the players who want him out.
If it's the players then my point is moot. If it's folks like Petit or Abrams that's just as big of a problem.
Yea I agree. I'd like to actually watch what he said.
Right now cleaning house of a GM who thought his connections to our previous SB teams meant he was the guy to get us back and a Coach who bullshitted his way into a job he was not ready for, is the way to go.
Then once we get folks in place for those jobs, we get a full coaching staff and start planning player acquisition based on our new scheme/identity.
Folks get hung up on ownership because it's been the one constant, and with this team it's been really constant in the administrative and scouting departments, like three decades kind of constant. New GMs and coaches are great but if you're hellbent on retaining lifers and family members. Philosophies don't change and things stagnate and eventually rot.
Talkin Giants has it. He did indeed say he spoke to people in the locker room who want him gone.
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Are precisely who we should be most worried about right now. If they want judge gone it's probably because their jobs would feel more safe. Not exactly encouraging.
I haven't actually seen the clip, but someone wrote above its the players who want him out.
If it's the players then my point is moot. If it's folks like Petit or Abrams that's just as big of a problem.
Yea I agree. I'd like to actually watch what he said.
What the poster reports as being said I can't find, in the comments available that Glazier has made today, so I'm not sure he actually said what's being claimed.
Good note. Thanks.
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Giants issues are far deeper than the HC. Been canning HC’s and GM’s for six years. Don’t let ownership off the hook.
What does this even mean?
I think it means that owners and owners nephews who have held front office positions while the team has been dreadful need to go too. Which is true but not realistic. Judge being canned will satisfy my blood lust. For now
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the HC, QB, GM and getting rid of any or all them will fix it. The issues run far deeper so don’t expect better results without first addressing and fixing the root causes. Pretty simple concept Eric.
Ownership structure isn’t changing so I guess it’s a doomed franchise for all of eternity?
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Can't find it on Twitter.
Talkin Giants has it. He did indeed say he spoke to people in the locker room who want him gone.
Thanks. He said "people inside the locker room" want him gone which probably means players rather, than the "building" which would infer perhaps other staff.
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Can't find it on Twitter.
Talkin Giants has it. He did indeed say he spoke to people in the locker room who want him gone.
Thanks. He said "people inside the locker room" want him gone which probably means players rather, than the "building" which would infer perhaps other staff.
TY
One would hope that's the case. As long as it's not Ernie Accorsi...lol
https://twitter.com/talkingiants/status/1480345612864442370?s=21
What? Some of you are bewildering. As if you never heard of JAY GLAZIER.
yeah, I have no idea who Jay Glazier is. However Jay Glazer, a supposed insider to come out on Twitter saying 50/50 says he does not know shit. Everyone here says it is 50/50. We dont need Glazer for that.
The decision has already been made by Mara. It is either 100% he stays or 100% he goes. If Jay knows the scoop... then he would tell us... but he doesn't.
McDaniels got turfed and joined them for the 2011 playoff run
Every once in awhile information passes my way, and i heard the Giants are looking for a new HC starting tomorrow. We’ll see
Glazer video - ( New Window )
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Can't find it on Twitter.
Talkin Giants has it. He did indeed say he spoke to people in the locker room who want him gone.
Thanks. He said "people inside the locker room" want him gone which probably means players rather, than the "building" which would infer perhaps other staff.
This makes Carl Banks’ shilling that more embarrassing. For 3 weeks he’s talked about “culture and how he hasn’t lost the locker room.” Last week he talked about player development under Judge and listed Thomas, McKinney, Lemeuix (when called out he said he meant Gates) AZeez, cam brown and Elerson Smith. I wonder who state media pivots too in their pathetic rara effort to shift the blame from the man who signs their paycheck
Every once in awhile information passes my way, and i heard the Giants are looking for a new HC starting tomorrow. We’ll see
I agree and thanks for the tidbit. I hope you are correct. Seems most signs are pointing this way.
This is a really bad take and you obviously don’t know much about Jay Glazer. Ignorance is bliss I suppose.
Every once in awhile information passes my way, and i heard the Giants are looking for a new HC starting tomorrow. We’ll see
I assume its just semantics but
I would hope they would hire the GM before the HC...and let the GM pick his HC.
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What? Some of you are bewildering. As if you never heard of JAY GLAZIER.
yeah, I have no idea who Jay Glazier is. However Jay Glazer, a supposed insider to come out on Twitter saying 50/50 says he does not know shit. Everyone here says it is 50/50. We dont need Glazer for that.
The decision has already been made by Mara. It is either 100% he stays or 100% he goes. If Jay knows the scoop... then he would tell us... but he doesn't.
He just did...
I can tell you right now he’s likely a guy who has direct contacts with guys like Leonard Williams and Logan Ryan. Intuitively, my gut tells me Williams is probably one of the players ticked off.
THIS
Keep the focus on the inept and overbearing owners, meddling family in personnel, and shit organizational scouting.
Handley was 14-18 so there is no comparison. Went to my first game in1976 McVay was coach for the next couple of years Who was very bad and he went 14-23 and I thought it could never get worse!!?