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Per Duggan: Judge currently meeting with Mara

BeckShepEli : 1/10/2022 9:19 am
presenting plan to fix this.
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The plan should be  
jeff57 : 1/10/2022 9:20 am : link
To fire himself.
Mr. Mara  
Essex : 1/10/2022 9:20 am : link
please don't get conned a second time.
"Mr. Mara"  
Jim in Forest Hills : 1/10/2022 9:20 am : link
"They key is the QB sneak.. Nobody and I mean Nobody expects this all the time. I'm more innovative than anyone out there.."
And Mara is going to buy it  
TommytheElephant : 1/10/2022 9:21 am : link
I wonder how many people get thrown under the bus in this meeting.

And Mara will see right through it.

this franchise is a fucking joke
Dam you Beck  
BigBlueJ : 1/10/2022 9:21 am : link
..
Ha ha  
jvm52106 : 1/10/2022 9:21 am : link
again it s like politics- screw shit up and then tell people why you are the one to fix it.

Judge has to be gone or this next year is meaningless..
RE: And Mara is going to buy it  
jvm52106 : 1/10/2022 9:22 am : link
In comment 15540887 TommytheElephant said:
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I wonder how many people get thrown under the bus in this meeting.

And Mara will see right through it.

this franchise is a fucking joke


seriously, could you at least wait for the fucking meeting to be done before the meltdown. Nobody said Mara is asking him to tell me how you will fix this. Judge is fucking delusional..
So we await the white smoke  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/10/2022 9:23 am : link
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The plan  
UberAlias : 1/10/2022 9:23 am : link
I see very few solutions....but a ton of burn it down  
George from PA : 1/10/2022 9:23 am : link
Judge could go or stay....he didn't earn a 2nd chance....but he is not dumb....knows he was wrong and hopefully learns from mistakes....

What are the solutions? Name names?
This  
Eli owns all : 1/10/2022 9:23 am : link
jvm  
TommytheElephant : 1/10/2022 9:24 am : link
point taken. I just have had it
Not necessarily good  
Anakim : 1/10/2022 9:25 am : link
Because one thing we do know about Judge is that he's a professional bullshitter. He's an excellent used car salesman. Mara could come out of the meeting convinced that Judge can right this ship.
The plan  
UberAlias : 1/10/2022 9:25 am : link
Was the meeting planned?  
jeff57 : 1/10/2022 9:25 am : link
If not, that's not a good sign for Judge.
Mr Mara  
JonC : 1/10/2022 9:26 am : link
it is time to move on from Judge and his coaches, as well as DG, and the scouts.
RE: jvm  
Essex : 1/10/2022 9:26 am : link
In comment 15540903 TommytheElephant said:
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point taken. I just have had it


I think you have a right to be skeptical that Mara will not make the right decision and be conned. It is not like Mara has earned the benefit of the doubt with his judgment.
Oh I expect 100% Mara to buy whatever JJ spews this morning.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/10/2022 9:26 am : link
A clown convincing another clown.
..  
BeckShepEli : 1/10/2022 9:27 am : link
"John, I got this amazing plan. Promote Kevin Abrams to GM and we are 12-5 next year"
RE: Ha ha  
bigbluescot : 1/10/2022 9:27 am : link
In comment 15540889 jvm52106 said:
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again it s like politics- screw shit up and then tell people why you are the one to fix it.

Judge has to be gone or this next year is meaningless..


The next year is going to be meaningless anyway, 10 years in we're somehow at year one of a complete rebuild. I'd can Judge, but if I was a GM looking at the squad and the cap mess, I might like a year of Judge on the hot seat instead standing this time next year explaining why my new HC pick struggled while I was trying to put the pieces in place to move forward. Again, not the way I'd do it, but organisationally I can see some benefits as well as downside. Depends how big of a mess they think they're in.
Anak  
TommytheElephant : 1/10/2022 9:28 am : link
Thats my thinking.

RE: Was the meeting planned?  
bleedgiantsblue : 1/10/2022 9:28 am : link
In comment 15540909 jeff57 said:
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If not, that's not a good sign for Judge.


I think Judge said yesterday he expected to meet with them later in the week.
RE: Was the meeting planned?  
bigbluescot : 1/10/2022 9:28 am : link
In comment 15540909 jeff57 said:
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If not, that's not a good sign for Judge.


I'd imagine that sort of meeting is pretty common on Black Monday for eliminated teams.
RE: RE: Was the meeting planned?  
jeff57 : 1/10/2022 9:29 am : link
In comment 15540922 bleedgiantsblue said:
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In comment 15540909 jeff57 said:


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If not, that's not a good sign for Judge.



I think Judge said yesterday he expected to meet with them later in the week.


Then it's probably not a good sign for him. But, then again, who knows.
RE: RE: RE: Was the meeting planned?  
bleedgiantsblue : 1/10/2022 9:29 am : link
In comment 15540924 jeff57 said:
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In comment 15540922 bleedgiantsblue said:


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In comment 15540909 jeff57 said:


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If not, that's not a good sign for Judge.



I think Judge said yesterday he expected to meet with them later in the week.



Then it's probably not a good sign for him. But, then again, who knows.


I agree. Not getting my hopes up though.
The spineless owner  
Silver Spoon : 1/10/2022 9:30 am : link
will be duped again.
Meeting with Ownership  
Big Rick in FL : 1/10/2022 9:30 am : link
At 9am the day after the last game doesn't seem like a good sign for Judge. I'd assume Nagy & Zimmer also had similar meetings.
If Mara has doubts about Judge  
Essex : 1/10/2022 9:30 am : link
how can he say definitively he will be back. At the very least, Mara if he has doubts and it appears that he does, should say well "I will let the next GM decide" who he wants for a coach, but the decision to hire a GM will not be made in consultation with you or about you. If you want to present this plan to him, ok--but he will have free hands to do whatever he wants. How can you announce Judge coming back before hiring a GM if you have doubts?
I'd fire JJ and grab Flores  
PatersonPlank : 1/10/2022 9:32 am : link
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Scary.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/10/2022 9:32 am : link
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RE: RE: jvm  
jvm52106 : 1/10/2022 9:32 am : link
In comment 15540914 Essex said:
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In comment 15540903 TommytheElephant said:


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point taken. I just have had it



I think you have a right to be skeptical that Mara will not make the right decision and be conned. It is not like Mara has earned the benefit of the doubt with his judgment.


Skeptical sure but let's hold the nasty, explosive comments for when we know exactly what is happening. Anyone of us would have said JJ would be the coach in 2022 if asked in Aug/Sept. You have to believe that Mara wants this to work but at this point it is beyond obvious that this is done.

Solomon Wilcox right now on Sirius is going off right now on how Judge needs to go. The feeling, the temperament and the results all say Judge is not the guy. Though he is pushing Graham to a degree to at least stay as the DC.
Guessing  
nygiants16 : 1/10/2022 9:32 am : link
the plan going into the season was Gettleman would retire, Abrams would take over with Judge having a little more power and staying as head coach..

Terrible season has made Mara rethink and Judge is fighting to keep that plan going
Love to be afly on  
johnnyb : 1/10/2022 9:33 am : link
the wall for that meeting.
So what you’re saying  
Giants73 : 1/10/2022 9:34 am : link
Is Mara will be heading home with a beautiful lime green 1972 pinto and Judge will still have a job.
Oh man, hope I am wrong but..  
whispa : 1/10/2022 9:35 am : link
I am getting a terrible feeling Judge cons his way into another year and the only change is Gettleman leaving the GM spot open.
RE: This  
Giantology : 1/10/2022 9:36 am : link
In comment 15540898 Eli owns all said:
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Damn, this just reminded me how lame its gonna be not having Joe Gatto on Impractical Jokers anymore
JJ...  
Dnew15 : 1/10/2022 9:36 am : link
pitchin the Abrams + Judge plan

Music to Mara's ears.
Is Tisch the co-owner or not?  
RCPhoenix : 1/10/2022 9:36 am : link
What the hell does he do besides make guest TV spots on Billions at MetLife Stadium?
Is the Dove...  
bw in dc : 1/10/2022 9:37 am : link
Steve Tisch there?

RE: If Mara has doubts about Judge  
bigbluescot : 1/10/2022 9:38 am : link
In comment 15540932 Essex said:
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how can he say definitively he will be back. At the very least, Mara if he has doubts and it appears that he does, should say well "I will let the next GM decide" who he wants for a coach, but the decision to hire a GM will not be made in consultation with you or about you. If you want to present this plan to him, ok--but he will have free hands to do whatever he wants. How can you announce Judge coming back before hiring a GM if you have doubts?


This is where the Gettleman 'retirement' hurts. Gettleman should have been told retire a few weeks ago or get canned.
Somone  
RobCrossRiver56 : 1/10/2022 9:38 am : link
is going to living in a van down by the river shortly
RE: Love to be afly on  
bceagle05 : 1/10/2022 9:38 am : link
In comment 15540962 johnnyb said:
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the wall for that meeting.

The fly would be the smartest person in the room.
So Judge is in there presenting a plan...  
EricJ : 1/10/2022 9:39 am : link
that he COULD have implemented before the season started.. but didn't?

The next issue I have with this is this...
The plan should be presented not only to Mara but to whoever the next GM is. THAT is the guy who should be deciding whether Joe stays or goes.
RE: RE: And Mara is going to buy it  
joeinpa : 1/10/2022 9:39 am : link
In comment 15540893 jvm52106 said:
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In comment 15540887 TommytheElephant said:


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I wonder how many people get thrown under the bus in this meeting.

And Mara will see right through it.

this franchise is a fucking joke



seriously, could you at least wait for the fucking meeting to be done before the meltdown. Nobody said Mara is asking him to tell me how you will fix this. Judge is fucking delusional..


Are you new to Bbi, do you really need to ask that question.
RE: JJ...  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/10/2022 9:39 am : link
In comment 15540981 Dnew15 said:
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pitchin the Abrams + Judge plan

Music to Mara's ears.


Don't forget Judge adding he is going to lean on Chris and Tim more.
RE: Is the Dove...  
EricJ : 1/10/2022 9:39 am : link
In comment 15540991 bw in dc said:
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Steve Tisch there?


he is there but has a glass of champagne in his hand and a girl on his lap. Barely listening to what Judge is saying
I think he's gone  
JB_in_DC : 1/10/2022 9:40 am : link
the bit about pitching his plan to turn this around was a little bit of conjecture/editorialization from Duggan.
Hopefully  
Bones : 1/10/2022 9:40 am : link
Mara is telling him that whoever the new GM will be will determine his future, but he is giving Judge the opportunity to fall on his own sword.

That said, I wish Mara wouold fall on his own swords, figuratively speaking of course.
His plan sould be  
JFIB : 1/10/2022 9:40 am : link
Hari-Kari!
Mara  
Pete44 : 1/10/2022 9:43 am : link
Mara is like the insecure girlf that wants to take her boyfriend back. I expect Judge to stay.
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