for display only
Big Blue Interactive The Corner Forum  
Back to the Corner

Archived Thread

Brian Flores Fired- WOW

BeckShepEli : 1/10/2022 9:29 am
Per Adam
Pages: 1 2 <<Prev | Show All |
THAT is some crazy  
M.S. : 1/10/2022 9:47 am : link

shit right there.
twitter  
pjcas18 : 1/10/2022 9:47 am : link
speculation there was QB disagreement amongst Miami leadership

not sure if true, but something like that makes sense IMO.
Dolphins are not targeting Jim Harbaugh  
sphinx : 1/10/2022 9:47 am : link
Jeff Darlington
@JeffDarlington
While I realize many are assuming Flores’ departure is tied to Harbaugh’s potential availability, I can assure you that is not the case. The Dolphins are not targeting Jim Harbaugh, per sources. The decision to fire Flores is entirely independent.
Here is NYG's opportunity....  
Sy'56 : 1/10/2022 9:48 am : link
.
RE: I think this is a bad move by Miami  
KDavies : 1/10/2022 9:48 am : link
In comment 15540938 dpinzow said:
Quote:
unless they have Harbaugh already signed to a deal


Live in Dolphins country. And that is what they think. Ross is a Michigan guy. Fans are perplexed about it.
RE: You mean  
jeff57 : 1/10/2022 9:49 am : link
In comment 15541047 Essex said:
Quote:
who had it all worked out in year "3"


Went 10-6 in year 2.
RE: RE: I never expected that.  
Victor in CT : 1/10/2022 9:49 am : link
In comment 15541023 Ten Ton Hammer said:
Quote:
In comment 15541016 Victor in CT said:


Quote:


JonC has a good point about the BB tree, but I thought Flores did a good job there.



A bad job the first 8 games, but then they stormed back.

Mixed results.


maybe so, but 19-16 the last 2 years and 99% of the time 10-6 gets you a playoff spot. And we see why he let Graham go every week.
I'm shocked!  
ZogZerg : 1/10/2022 9:50 am : link
Wow!
lol  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/10/2022 9:50 am : link
Jeff Darlington (@JeffDarlington)
The decision to fire Flores can be summed up with one word: Relationships. His relationship with Grier and Tua had deteriorated to a pretty bad place. Along with constant staff changes, owner Steve Ross no longer saw Flores as a healthy fit in Miami

These Belichick coaches all suck.
Good coach  
GiantGrit : 1/10/2022 9:51 am : link
19-14 and although they played weak teams during the win streak, i find Tua average which made the consistent winning more impressive.

Apparently a power struggle with the GM (who is Black) sooooo probably not race related.

The Watson angle makes sense as does Harbaugh.
Flores would be an upgrade over Judge  
Anakim : 1/10/2022 9:51 am : link
Then again, so would Matt Nagy and so would a used tampon
RE: Flores would be an upgrade over Judge  
JohninSC : 1/10/2022 9:53 am : link
In comment 15541096 Anakim said:
Quote:
Then again, so would Matt Nagy and so would a used tampon


Stop with the Nagy nonsense. No need to spread that stupidity to two different threads.

But I'd jump all over Flores.
Flores  
Sammo85 : 1/10/2022 9:54 am : link
really ticked a lot of players and org people off.

Noticing a trend with Pats coaches in their jobs?

Weis, Mangini, McDaniels, Patricia, Flores, Judge.
Seriously though  
Anakim : 1/10/2022 9:54 am : link
Was it Flores who picked Tua ahead of Herbert? Was it Flores who traded a first rounder to the Eagles?

And the GM is safe? Kind of ridiculous, if you ask me.
I would take him  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/10/2022 9:54 am : link
Defensive HC. Decisive. He is someone I see as making some adjustments from his tenure and going on to win a lot of games at his next stop.
You dont fire a guy...  
EricJ : 1/10/2022 9:56 am : link
because you want to TALK to another guy.

Flores fired Graham  
jvm52106 : 1/10/2022 9:57 am : link
Graham ends up with us later. Judge fires Colombo, Garrett- seems like BB coaches do not get along with subordinates very well.
I’d hire Brian Flores RIGHT NOW  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 1/10/2022 9:57 am : link
before I hire the GM. Then I’d give Flores some say in the GM hiring.

Go back to the Dolphins postgame thread. I thought the Dolphins weren’t any good either compared to the Giants… they were just a LOT better coached.
Flores is a Boston College man.  
bceagle05 : 1/10/2022 9:57 am : link
I'm sure John Mara will bring him in to reminisce at least.
.  
pjcas18 : 1/10/2022 9:57 am : link
Joe Schad
@schadjoe
· 13m
League source: Jim Harbaugh not lined up for Dolphins and not coming to Dolphins
RE: lol  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 1/10/2022 9:59 am : link
In comment 15541087 Ten Ton Hammer said:
Quote:
Jeff Darlington (@JeffDarlington)
The decision to fire Flores can be summed up with one word: Relationships. His relationship with Grier and Tua had deteriorated to a pretty bad place. Along with constant staff changes, owner Steve Ross no longer saw Flores as a healthy fit in Miami

These Belichick coaches all suck.


His relationship with a noodle armed future backup was bad???? Awww… poor baby.
RE: Flores is a Boston College man.  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/10/2022 10:04 am : link
In comment 15541125 bceagle05 said:
Quote:
I'm sure John Mara will bring him in to reminisce at least.


Played with Snee. Mara can bring them all into the mix. Poles as GM with Flores. I would be on board with this.
RE: lol  
UConn4523 : 1/10/2022 10:06 am : link
In comment 15541087 Ten Ton Hammer said:
Quote:
Jeff Darlington (@JeffDarlington)
The decision to fire Flores can be summed up with one word: Relationships. His relationship with Grier and Tua had deteriorated to a pretty bad place. Along with constant staff changes, owner Steve Ross no longer saw Flores as a healthy fit in Miami

These Belichick coaches all suck.


That's actually a really bad conclusion from Darlington. If this guy had a brain he'd see that Flores in year 2 doubled their wins and went to the playoffs with a rookie QB he didn't even want. Then in year 3 he has another winning record with said QB only this time he's hurt for much of the season and won a couple games with Brissett starting 1/3 of the season or so.

Flores is a good coach, Darlington is the one who sucks.
RE: RE: lol  
Anakim : 1/10/2022 10:07 am : link
In comment 15541179 UConn4523 said:
Quote:
In comment 15541087 Ten Ton Hammer said:


Quote:


Jeff Darlington (@JeffDarlington)
The decision to fire Flores can be summed up with one word: Relationships. His relationship with Grier and Tua had deteriorated to a pretty bad place. Along with constant staff changes, owner Steve Ross no longer saw Flores as a healthy fit in Miami

These Belichick coaches all suck.



That's actually a really bad conclusion from Darlington. If this guy had a brain he'd see that Flores in year 2 doubled their wins and went to the playoffs with a rookie QB he didn't even want. Then in year 3 he has another winning record with said QB only this time he's hurt for much of the season and won a couple games with Brissett starting 1/3 of the season or so.

Flores is a good coach, Darlington is the one who sucks.


I think the sucking comment was TTH's
RE: RE: lol  
Essex : 1/10/2022 10:09 am : link
In comment 15541179 UConn4523 said:
Quote:
In comment 15541087 Ten Ton Hammer said:


Quote:


Jeff Darlington (@JeffDarlington)
The decision to fire Flores can be summed up with one word: Relationships. His relationship with Grier and Tua had deteriorated to a pretty bad place. Along with constant staff changes, owner Steve Ross no longer saw Flores as a healthy fit in Miami

These Belichick coaches all suck.



That's actually a really bad conclusion from Darlington. If this guy had a brain he'd see that Flores in year 2 doubled their wins and went to the playoffs with a rookie QB he didn't even want. Then in year 3 he has another winning record with said QB only this time he's hurt for much of the season and won a couple games with Brissett starting 1/3 of the season or so.

Flores is a good coach, Darlington is the one who sucks.

I think it is hard for outsiders to really say how much relationships deteriorate to the point where the coach needing to be fired is the answer. I don't think anyone on here can answer that.
RE: RE: RE: lol  
UConn4523 : 1/10/2022 10:10 am : link
In comment 15541183 Anakim said:
Quote:
In comment 15541179 UConn4523 said:


Quote:


In comment 15541087 Ten Ton Hammer said:


Quote:


Jeff Darlington (@JeffDarlington)
The decision to fire Flores can be summed up with one word: Relationships. His relationship with Grier and Tua had deteriorated to a pretty bad place. Along with constant staff changes, owner Steve Ross no longer saw Flores as a healthy fit in Miami

These Belichick coaches all suck.



That's actually a really bad conclusion from Darlington. If this guy had a brain he'd see that Flores in year 2 doubled their wins and went to the playoffs with a rookie QB he didn't even want. Then in year 3 he has another winning record with said QB only this time he's hurt for much of the season and won a couple games with Brissett starting 1/3 of the season or so.

Flores is a good coach, Darlington is the one who sucks.



I think the sucking comment was TTH's


Well then I apologize Darlington, and move my comments to TTH. How can you conclude Flores sucks, lol?
RE: RE: lol  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/10/2022 10:10 am : link
In comment 15541179 UConn4523 said:
Quote:
In comment 15541087 Ten Ton Hammer said:


Quote:


Jeff Darlington (@JeffDarlington)
The decision to fire Flores can be summed up with one word: Relationships. His relationship with Grier and Tua had deteriorated to a pretty bad place. Along with constant staff changes, owner Steve Ross no longer saw Flores as a healthy fit in Miami

These Belichick coaches all suck.



That's actually a really bad conclusion from Darlington. If this guy had a brain he'd see that Flores in year 2 doubled their wins and went to the playoffs with a rookie QB he didn't even want. Then in year 3 he has another winning record with said QB only this time he's hurt for much of the season and won a couple games with Brissett starting 1/3 of the season or so.

Flores is a good coach, Darlington is the one who sucks.


His relationship with Tua has been odd since the start. It does not seem as if he ever was comfortable committing to getting him playing time. As coach, if the franchise commits to a QB of the future, that's on you to make that relationship work or not.
Personality conflict  
bluepepper : 1/10/2022 10:11 am : link
likely answer. These Pats guys are nearly all gigantic a**holes who nobody likes working with. Judge actually seems more personable and likable than most of them, if not I think he'd be a definite goner. No way we hire Flores to replace Judge.
He will get other offers  
HomerJones45 : 1/10/2022 10:11 am : link
don't expect him to remain unemployed for long.
RE: Seriously though  
Bones : 1/10/2022 10:11 am : link
In comment 15541107 Anakim said:
Quote:
Was it Flores who picked Tua ahead of Herbert? Was it Flores who traded a first rounder to the Eagles?

And the GM is safe? Kind of ridiculous, if you ask me.


+1
RE: Take over a 5-11 team  
AcidTest : 1/10/2022 10:11 am : link
In comment 15540960 Big Rick in FL said:
Quote:
Go 19-14 in your first two years with a QB who can't stay healthy. Get fired. I'd be happy ake him as a HC for sure.


Stunning. He had a lot of success, including finishing 9 - 8 this season. He also won his last eight of nine games this year, including yesterday against NE. His only loss during that span was a blowout loss to the Titans, the #1 seed in the AFC.

I'd at least interview him.
Yep.  
Anakim : 1/10/2022 10:11 am : link
Doug Rush
@TheDougRush
Brian Flores: 19-14. Ended the season winning 8 of his last 9.

Joe Judge: 10-23. Ended the season losing 7 of his last 8.

Yet, Flores got fired first today. #BlackMonday
RE: I never expected that.  
AcidTest : 1/10/2022 10:12 am : link
In comment 15541016 Victor in CT said:
Quote:
JonC has a good point about the BB tree, but I thought Flores did a good job there.


Agree that the BB tree hasn't produced, but Flores still did a good job in Miami. He apparently lost a power struggle with the GM.
And BTW, the Dolphins have the most cap space headed into  
Anakim : 1/10/2022 10:12 am : link
next season so it's not like Flores had high priced talent on his roster
Graham leaving Flores  
bluepepper : 1/10/2022 10:13 am : link
to take similar job for Judge gives you an idea I think that Flores may just be a difficult guy.
RE: Graham leaving Flores  
Anakim : 1/10/2022 10:15 am : link
In comment 15541231 bluepepper said:
Quote:
to take similar job for Judge gives you an idea I think that Flores may just be a difficult guy.


Flores LET HIM take the DC job
So  
The Dude : 1/10/2022 10:17 am : link
Year one It was implied that the team was tanking, and Flores had them playing above their weight class..year 2, 10-6…and year 3 they start off horrible but win 8 of the last 9 and sweep the pats……and he’s available but judge is still here?
RE: lol  
Section331 : 1/10/2022 10:19 am : link
In comment 15541087 Ten Ton Hammer said:
Quote:
Jeff Darlington (@JeffDarlington)
The decision to fire Flores can be summed up with one word: Relationships. His relationship with Grier and Tua had deteriorated to a pretty bad place. Along with constant staff changes, owner Steve Ross no longer saw Flores as a healthy fit in Miami

These Belichick coaches all suck.


I'm not sure why not getting along with Grier means he's a shitty HC. I'm sure Tua's issues had to do with Flores benching him periodically for poor play. I can see the argument for letting a young QB work through his issues, but Flores was trying to get a playoff spot.

He's shown himself to be a good coach. The roster his first year was brutally bad, especially after Minkah was traded, but he had them playing well down the stretch. Many analysts speculated whether Miami would win a game, and they went 5-4 down the stretch. I'd have zero issue with a new GM bringing him on board.
RE: RE: Graham leaving Flores  
bluepepper : 1/10/2022 10:23 am : link
In comment 15541235 Anakim said:
Quote:
In comment 15541231 bluepepper said:


Quote:


to take similar job for Judge gives you an idea I think that Flores may just be a difficult guy.



Flores LET HIM take the DC job

Yes, but he wanted out after only one year. If you put together a coaching staff and guys are bailing to take the same position with another team after only one year, it reflects poorly IMO.
RE: RE: I never expected that.  
Victor in CT : 1/10/2022 10:24 am : link
In comment 15541224 AcidTest said:
Quote:
In comment 15541016 Victor in CT said:


Quote:


JonC has a good point about the BB tree, but I thought Flores did a good job there.



Agree that the BB tree hasn't produced, but Flores still did a good job in Miami. He apparently lost a power struggle with the GM.


I thought so too.
RE: RE: lol  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/10/2022 10:25 am : link
In comment 15541256 Section331 said:
Quote:
In comment 15541087 Ten Ton Hammer said:


Quote:


Jeff Darlington (@JeffDarlington)
The decision to fire Flores can be summed up with one word: Relationships. His relationship with Grier and Tua had deteriorated to a pretty bad place. Along with constant staff changes, owner Steve Ross no longer saw Flores as a healthy fit in Miami

These Belichick coaches all suck.



I'm not sure why not getting along with Grier means he's a shitty HC. I'm sure Tua's issues had to do with Flores benching him periodically for poor play. I can see the argument for letting a young QB work through his issues, but Flores was trying to get a playoff spot.

He's shown himself to be a good coach. The roster his first year was brutally bad, especially after Minkah was traded, but he had them playing well down the stretch. Many analysts speculated whether Miami would win a game, and they went 5-4 down the stretch. I'd have zero issue with a new GM bringing him on board.


He might be a good coach. That is enough for coordinators and position coaches. Managing relationships and people is part of the job description for head coach. You can argue that it's the most important thing, given the responsibilities of a head coach. Every single coach off the Belichick tree seems to really struggle with the personality aspect of the job. They are all smart people from intellectual backgrounds who compose themselves well and can do chalkboard talk all day, but don't do well as directors and managers of people.


To play devil's advocate, Grier has hired and fired 3 head coaches now. That's worth a look as a problem too.
How does that GM keep his job over Flores?  
AcesUp : 1/10/2022 10:26 am : link
Grier screwed up at every turn with Tua over Herbert being the big one and Flores took a team from the dumpster to competitive.
The turnover in Coordinators is a red flag  
AcesUp : 1/10/2022 10:27 am : link
though.
The Dolphins kind of stink.  
mittenedman : 1/10/2022 10:33 am : link
I wouldn't be excited about getting Flores as anything other than a DC. And then....maybe.
RE: The Dolphins kind of stink.  
uconn18 : 1/10/2022 10:44 am : link
In comment 15541333 mittenedman said:
Quote:
I wouldn't be excited about getting Flores as anything other than a DC. And then....maybe.

9-8 kinda stinks?? Then I wish we could’ve stunk the last 5 years.

Plus he overachieved with that roster
OK, But the Goal is NOT an Upgrade  
OntheRoad : 1/10/2022 10:49 am : link

The goal is a coach who can lead a team to the Super Bowl. If there is no suitable coach available, waiting another year is better than another multiyear commitment to the wrong person.
Pretty sure Miami wants to hire  
M.S. : 1/10/2022 10:52 am : link

Joe Judge as their next H.C.
RE: Here is NYG's opportunity....  
Spider56 : 1/10/2022 12:38 pm : link
In comment 15541074 Sy'56 said:
Quote:
.


Absolutely ... +1 ... I love this guy ... but only if he agrees to NOT keep PG as his DC.
I hope this makes Mara reconsider keeping Judge  
Matt M. : 1/10/2022 12:45 pm : link
Flores is gone after 2 straight winning seasons and we think it's a good idea to keep Judge after 2 straight double digit losing seasons. I would take Flores over Judge.
Ian O’Connor on The Michael Kay Show…  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 1/11/2022 4:32 pm : link
“I spoke to someone today who is very close to [Brian] Flores and there’s no question that the Giants job would be at the top of his list.”

Pages: 1 2 <<Prev | Show All |
Back to the Corner