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Wash Post: The Giants were an embarrassment

Les in TO : 1/10/2022 11:33 am
And they had it coming.

A scathing takedown of Joe Judge’s lack of character
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/10/2022 11:35 am : link
Why the past tense? We ARE an embarrassment.
"Mister Hard Nosed turns out to have the biggest red clown schnoz"  
JohnB : 1/10/2022 11:35 am : link
ouch...
Can't argue with anything said.  
Section331 : 1/10/2022 11:39 am : link
To run a clown show, you need a clown.
Sally Jenkins  
Joey in VA : 1/10/2022 11:40 am : link
Eviscerates like no other.
That's beautiful  
The Turk : 1/10/2022 11:40 am : link
great column
I think that's the third  
Burtman : 1/10/2022 11:41 am : link
time today I've seen a reference to the Giants being a clown show by the media. Who knew Eric had so much influence.
Jenkins is a heck of a writer  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/10/2022 11:42 am : link
Giants owner John Mara has said he will have to be “patient” with Judge, given his lack of previous head coaching experience. But lack of experience is not Judge’s issue. It’s hard to see how a guy who already thinks he knows more than anyone in the league can learn anything. Judge’s issue isn’t lack of experience. It’s lack of character.
And this is the real reason he can't come back  
Mike from Ohio : 1/10/2022 11:43 am : link
His name is becoming synonymous with "lack of character" around the league and in public. He is not just losing, he is doing it while humiliating the team and himself.

Judge can't be back next year. If he is, John Mara needs to just step to the podium this week and say "We'd like to win football games, but that is not our primary goal."
I live in the DC  
lester : 1/10/2022 11:43 am : link
area, they just want something to brag/talk about. They were really blowing up Judge's comments all week on the radio waves. Giants were an embarrassment before yesterday's game regardless of comments.
Having a bad team  
Capt. Don : 1/10/2022 11:44 am : link
is not the problem its that we are continually starting from square one because the Giants front office refuses to ACTUALLY start from square one.
RE: Sally Jenkins  
Johnny5 : 1/10/2022 11:44 am : link
In comment 15541666 Joey in VA said:
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Eviscerates like no other.

Ooph yeah. That was brutal... lol
I never thought I'd see the day  
PhilSimms15 : 1/10/2022 11:47 am : link
where the Giants are the laughing stock of the NFL. Sure, the Knicks have been a big joke in the NBA for years. Sure, the Mets had been a big joke until Steve C, but the venerated New York Football Giants organization?

Never.

Yet, they are the biggest joke in football right now.

Thanks John Mara!
RE: I never thought I'd see the day  
Mike from Ohio : 1/10/2022 11:49 am : link
In comment 15541705 PhilSimms15 said:
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where the Giants are the laughing stock of the NFL. Sure, the Knicks have been a big joke in the NBA for years. Sure, the Mets had been a big joke until Steve C, but the venerated New York Football Giants organization?

Never.

Yet, they are the biggest joke in football right now.

Thanks John Mara!


This is absolutely true. But the problem is that the NFL people Mara talks to would never say that, so he likely doesn't believe it is anything more than fans and media complaining about losing.

I don't think John Mara truly understands what the perception of the New York Giants has become.
we are pretty bad...  
BillKo : 1/10/2022 11:55 am : link
...but the Redskins, LOL, they're the one team we have actually had the upper hand on the last four years LOL

They blow just as much.......
The washington post is an embarrassment and so is their owner  
George from PA : 1/10/2022 11:56 am : link
Again, f&$k them
Wow, that was brutle  
Hammer : 1/10/2022 11:57 am : link
And, as the article stated, well deserved.
 
christian : 1/10/2022 12:00 pm : link
That’s an incredible observation from an outsider.
WHOA!  
TC : 1/10/2022 12:00 pm : link
BAM!
RE: ...  
myquealer : 1/10/2022 12:12 pm : link
In comment 15541643 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Why the past tense? We ARE an embarrassment.


Why only past and present tense? We WERE, ARE, and WILL BE an embarrassment.
RE: The washington post is an embarrassment and so is their owner  
noro9 : 1/10/2022 12:39 pm : link
In comment 15541746 George from PA said:
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Again, f&$k them

They might be but this piece is spot on. Can't argue with any of it.
Ouch Sally taking no prisoners  
Stu11 : 1/10/2022 12:59 pm : link
I wish a NY columnist had the balls to write it.
Gut instinct...  
WideRight : 1/10/2022 1:00 pm : link
Judge will get fired here, and get second HC chance and do much better somewhere else...
I disagree.  
ATL_Giants : 1/10/2022 1:04 pm : link
Judge has earned criticism, but this piece is just Sally piling on. She's just stoking the flames of an already enraged fan base.
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How about a team that so surrenders, is so lacking in gumption, that on a second and nine and then third and 11, it runs two quarterback sneaks and punts.

QB sneaks and punts are coaching decisions, not players giving up on the HC.
RE: The washington post is an embarrassment and so is their owner  
Les in TO : 1/10/2022 1:07 pm : link
In comment 15541746 George from PA said:
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Again, f&$k them
I guess being a bajillionare and earning $4,000 every second of every day may be an embarrassment of riches.
That’s the thing  
jeff57 : 1/10/2022 1:09 pm : link
He’s not only a bad HC, he’s an asshole.
RE: we are pretty bad...  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/10/2022 1:09 pm : link
In comment 15541736 BillKo said:
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...but the Redskins, LOL, they're the one team we have actually had the upper hand on the last four years LOL

They blow just as much.......


They swept us this year.
HOLY CRAP!  
River Mike : 1/10/2022 1:10 pm : link
That may be the most scathing article I have ever read in a major media outlet ... or maybe anywhere. WoW!
RE: The washington post is an embarrassment and so is their owner  
jeff57 : 1/10/2022 1:10 pm : link
In comment 15541746 George from PA said:
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Again, f&$k them


Then read today’s Steve Serby column in the Murdoch Post.
Here's some ...  
River Mike : 1/10/2022 1:12 pm : link
"Giants owner John Mara has said he will have to be “patient” with Judge, given his lack of previous head coaching experience. But lack of experience is not Judge’s issue. It’s hard to see how a guy who already thinks he knows more than anyone in the league can learn anything. Judge’s issue isn’t lack of experience. It’s lack of character."
RE: RE: The washington post is an embarrassment and so is their owner  
River Mike : 1/10/2022 1:15 pm : link
In comment 15542434 jeff57 said:
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In comment 15541746 George from PA said:


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Again, f&$k them



Then read today’s Steve Serby column in the Murdoch Post.


The Washington Post is one of the best, most respected, most ethical, highest standards publications in the country. But you probably should stick to the NY Post or The Enquirer.
Yikes  
AJ23 : 1/10/2022 1:18 pm : link
I usually think Sally Jenkins is great, but this is a little out there. The Colt McCoy part and the defense of Jason Garrett...

BBI is going to be a shitshow for the next few weeks. People really refuse to remember, before the team's (not solely Judge's) questionable offensive playcalling, that the team was teetering on the brink of slight improvement when the defense got their shit together this year. Then we were forced to play games with the slenderman at QB and an offensive line that patchwork lines would be offended to hear described as such.

Judge's rant was inexcusable and he's truly been a clown the past few weeks - but that doesn't mean the man has no character. I feel like mustanglover when I'm reacting to BBI today, so I'll just leave it there. But Jesus, it's amazing how quickly we forget how we got here.
Don't they  
GiantsRage2007 : 1/10/2022 1:19 pm : link
Have 100,000 or so emails of Dan Snyder's to go through?
I think Sally Jenkins is a New Yorker  
AnnapolisMike : 1/10/2022 1:22 pm : link
That was a brutal takedown.
RE: RE: The washington post is an embarrassment and so is their owner  
BigBlueJ : 1/10/2022 1:24 pm : link
In comment 15542434 jeff57 said:
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In comment 15541746 George from PA said:


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Again, f&$k them



Then read today’s Steve Serby column in the Murdoch Post.


Lol exactly. Never let the truth get in the way of ones politics.
wonder  
djm : 1/10/2022 1:24 pm : link
if there are people on the skins message board saying they haven't earned the right to talk.

Can anybody say she’s wrong?  
Simms11 : 1/10/2022 1:25 pm : link
She had the balls to write that and it should have been written by someone like Paul Schwartz. Seems like a NY Post article as well!
Supercilious  
dlauster : 1/10/2022 1:27 pm : link
in a sports article.

Nice!
OUCH!  
Victor in CT : 1/10/2022 1:32 pm : link
but she's right
On the plus side  
exiled : 1/10/2022 1:32 pm : link
No one was even watching the damn game. It was just a dismal performance in a dismal season. Who cares at this point?
Someone should send that to Hanlon...  
bw in dc : 1/10/2022 1:45 pm : link
Excellent job by Jenkins.

Judge is a fraud and she spelled that out beautifully.
Good article...  
Jimmy Googs : 1/10/2022 1:58 pm : link
almost shocking that a tough albeit fair take has the title "The Washington Post" at the top of it...
Great  
AcidTest : 1/10/2022 1:59 pm : link
article. Judge's off the field comments are even worse than his on the field actions. Not firing him is unacceptable.
Sally Is a great writer  
Aaroninma : 1/10/2022 2:19 pm : link
And she does this type of article better than anyone.

but, lets calm down about Colt Mccoy and Garrett ok.
RE: RE: we are pretty bad...  
BillKo : 1/10/2022 2:42 pm : link
In comment 15542430 Dave in Hoboken said:
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In comment 15541736 BillKo said:


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...but the Redskins, LOL, they're the one team we have actually had the upper hand on the last four years LOL

They blow just as much.......



They swept us this year.


We had been 5-2 versus them before yesterday's game.....no great shakes but what does that make WFT?

Perhaps the WAPO should have revised their article to, welcome to the party pal!!!!!

RE: Gut instinct...  
japanhead : 1/10/2022 2:49 pm : link
In comment 15542372 WideRight said:
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Judge will get fired here, and get second HC chance and do much better somewhere else...


who is giving judge a second shot after what he's shown here? he is a the worst coach in the league by a wide margin. he has denigrated three coaches/clubs to the media in pressers, including his own club under prior HC shurmur.

he is a disgrace and should have never been hired. in fact, only reason he was is because mara was too cheap to bring in rhule.
paywall?  
D HOS : 1/10/2022 3:11 pm : link
How you guys getting through to that article?
nevermind  
D HOS : 1/10/2022 3:12 pm : link
I remember now... go mobile. I tend to attempt to read these things on my computer.
I've read more than once  
Gman11 : 1/10/2022 3:28 pm : link
that Judge said that they were going to be aggressive. Punting on 4th and short in opponent's territory, the dreaded screen or draw on 3rd and 15, 4 passes in the first half, etc. Of course, the icing on the cake was the two qb sneaks.

What's that they call somebody that says one thing and does another?
RE: Sally Is a great writer  
Matt M. : 1/10/2022 3:57 pm : link
In comment 15542782 Aaroninma said:
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And she does this type of article better than anyone.

but, lets calm down about Colt Mccoy and Garrett ok.
If those two decisions happened in a bubble, I would agree. But, they were in the midst of a couple of seasons of extreme failure and embarrassment, that fell in a decade of the same.

This is not different than those who try to explain away a single loss as a moral victory or a single Jones fumble. If you are a winning team, a single loss can often be explained or overlooked. But, when you downright suck, each loss is one more of the same. If you never fumble, losing the ball can be a great hit or on the OL. But, when, at one point, you fumbled at least once a game on average, then losing the football is more of the same.

This is no different. This isn't just a bad decision about a backup QB or OC. This is about a multitude of bad decisions made by the same individuals.
Wow, that was some hit piece!  
trueblueinpw : 1/11/2022 11:17 pm : link
The irony is that Judge was always prattling on about culture and character and then when he was squeezed he folded up like a cheap Ben McAdoo suit.
I couldn't have said it better - everything I think and feel is in  
PatersonPlank : 1/12/2022 12:05 am : link
there. She is dam good.
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