Ralph: Judge wants say in GM search

On what? Home improvement projects?

However, where is Ralph getting this from? JJ is an arrogant ass, but it's not like him to be speaking about this with anyone he would not trust to keep their mouth shut.

it is usually not good to have too many higher ups/decision makers that are so aligned unless they have a long, proven track record of success at multiple career stops. It stifles ideas, honest and sometimes unwanted self-evaluation along with throttling the impetus to change. Not that we have seen any of that over the past 5 years....

with all the losing and embarrassing meltdowns and what not.

Why not give the biggest anchor in your organization the keys and let him drive for a while?

Are you freaking kidding me! Did ownership even entertain that thought?

In comment 15543897 bceagle05 said:

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On what? Home improvement projects?

- Culture

- Player Eyes

- Not fighting on the sidelines

You know, all the important stuff

With NE connections.

In comment 15543902 Bernie said:

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However, where is Ralph getting this from? JJ is an arrogant ass, but it's not like him to be speaking about this with anyone he would not trust to keep their mouth shut.

I don’t think recent actions indicate Judge knows when to shut his mouth.

This clown should thank his lucky stars. There isn’t another franchise that would have kept him after the garbage he has produced.

of Barkley Jones and Judge. Pisarcik Kotar and McVay were better. I thought that was the low point.

I was wrong.

Our asshat Essex two days ago.

Jay Glazer yesterday.

Ralph V today. With the comment that "a source confirmed",which is an acknowledgement that the story was already out there.

If Judge is lobbying for Abrams, hard to deny that he wants a say as to whom the GM should be. And believes himself entitled.

to see the near unanimity BBI seems to be showing on this.

Judge has really taken a wrecking ball to himself.

You don’t deserve a say

and it won't hurt anything if Mara asks Judge what he thinks. He is the headcoach (for the time being)

He will do nothing but muck up the opportunity to hire a top GM

if you would want a hand in the GM search if you were a HC? Why wouldn’t you/Judge?

Asking and getting are two completely different things.

Judge is like Tom Quinn on steroids

And say: "All in favor of firing this dick head, raise your hand."

Whoever doesn't raise their hand should be "invited to the next round" which is a trip out of a self locking door by the dumpster.

Just like Gettleman. Garbage on the field and a sense of entitlement.

this piece of shit think he is? He’s a loser, plain and simple.

In comment 15543867 Bill in UT said:

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The guy has a pair of balls, gotta give him that. So Judge, who is hanging on by a thread, wants input into picking the guy who will help decide if Judge is retained. LOL

Yeah, by suggesting the stooge everyone knows Mara wants to put in the position.

In comment 15543956 UConn4523 said:

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if you would want a hand in the GM search if you were a HC? Why wouldn’t you/Judge? Asking and getting are two completely different things.

Somr people have more self awareness than others. A head coach that's 10-23 and already enjoyed the full unflaggin support of the organization in all areas from coaching staff to players feeling like he deserves a role to help pick a GM?

No one is convinced, not even management at this point, that Judge knows his job. Him.feeling like he deserves more strikes me as wild.

Also needs to be a fan of the QB Sneak offense.

In comment 15543939 shyster said:

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Our asshat Essex two days ago. Jay Glazer yesterday. Ralph V today. With the comment that "a source confirmed",which is an acknowledgement that the story was already out there. If Judge is lobbying for Abrams, hard to deny that he wants a say as to whom the GM should be. And believes himself entitled.

He's not angling for a say in GM. He's saying what Mara wants to hear, because he knows Mara wants Abrams anyway. And Judge knows Abrams would then recommend Judge get another year.

If you consider this from Judge’s POV i think it makes sense.

If you want me here, let me be involved in the search.

If you don’t want me to have a say, and you don’t believe in me, get rid of me.

Like what Terps said - if you keep Judge, clean slate and give him more time, not a lame duck season.

I would “mutually part ways” and start over.

I’m not arguing that ownership should have Judge’s POV, just that I understand it.

about anything at this point let alone football? This hire was a mistake. He should have no say in the new GM and the fact he feels he should shows how insecure he is and also that he knows he SUCKS!

I’d want the same thing, especially if the company I worked for was a mess.

I’m not saying Judge is Bill B, but remember that Bill B’s career in Cleveland was a short lived mess, and the Browns fans sounded a lot like Giants fans today.

He's still the head coach. He's got nothing to lose. Which is why both these buffoons should have been fired weeks ago. But he's still here, so he's still entitled to act like the head coach. Until he isn't.

In comment 15543956 UConn4523 said:

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if you would want a hand in the GM search if you were a HC? Why wouldn’t you/Judge? Asking and getting are two completely different things.

Judge reportedly wants a say, not a hand. I hear that to mean he wants to be in the argument, as if he's earned the equity to make that request.

The more reasonable approach for him, IMV, is to realize he's embarrassed himself and the franchise the second half of the season. And, upon some reflection, he has a plan to change his approach as a communicator, coach, and stategist.

In comment 15543832 arniefez said:

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but hell no. The owners can't be that stupid. Can they?

The thing is, he can tell them that he wasn't given winning-caliber talent and he'd be absolutely correct about that. He could insist that his in-game decisions would have been entirely different with an NFL-caliber roster.

My guess is Mara wants to believe him, and so he will.

In comment 15543844 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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Totally unearned. He's been given total freedom to name his staff and help pick players and done nothing with it.

I agree. He hasn't done shit to earn that right.

In comment 15543893 Jersey Heel said:

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And telling the superintendent that you want a hand in choosing the new principal.

Or imagine Will Hernandez insisting he should have a part in choosing the OL coach.

You can't even fathom Judge having an opinion on candidates because he is a moron. But its fine for the guys that picked the moron to handle it...

:-)

See how shiny it is?"

Now, he has shown he is still learning to be a HC and still no experience as GM. Sure, definitely I would ask him to help in the GM search. Yeah, right!

In comment 15543865 AdamBrag said:

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Judge is actually right. If ownership has faith in him, he should be involved in the GM search because he and the GM should be on the same page. The problem is that ownership doesn't have full confidence in him.

No coach should have a say in who their boss is. Only a flawed structure would let a subordinate pick his boss...but welcome to Giants football.

When your success depends on those around you… you definitely want to have a say if you can get it

to let me jump her bones 7x week

He really has nothing to lose by asking.

In comment 15543963 Bold Ruler said:

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Just like Gettleman. Garbage on the field and a sense of entitlement.

there must be something in the building (company culture) that is giving these guys the attitude of entitlement. it is normal to want to be involved in the interview process for your new superior, but given the shit show Judge has presided over he should know to just shut up.

yet another reason to bring in a new GM to clean house.

when Bill Parcells who won two Super Bowls never got the right to do this back in the day...Judge is a clown

In comment 15544430 dpinzow said:

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when Bill Parcells who won two Super Bowls never got the right to do this back in the day...Judge is a clown

That was 30-40 years ago. Different world now.

In comment 15544435 aka dbrny said:

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In comment 15544430 dpinzow said: Quote: when Bill Parcells who won two Super Bowls never got the right to do this back in the day...Judge is a clown That was 30-40 years ago. Different world now.

Even in today's NFL you have to have some success as a head coach to get the right to select a general manager

He wants input into the selection. It’s a reasonable ask, given the situation

He’ll be on a prove it year while any GM with common sense will want to teardown. If he doesn’t have a guy that will align with his interests he’s likely in an impossible position to save his job next year. It’s a weird dynamic the Giants seem comfortable moving forward with here.

And deserving say are two very different things.

In comment 15544435 aka dbrny said:

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In comment 15544430 dpinzow said: Quote: when Bill Parcells who won two Super Bowls never got the right to do this back in the day...Judge is a clown That was 30-40 years ago. Different world now.

Not so different that there's precedent for a guy with nothing accomplished to be able to do this.

Or he really is trying to get fired so they have to pay him the rest of his money and he can leave. It really is starting to feel like one or the other.

idiot.

Just keep your mouth shut - or "you remove all doubt".