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Ralph: Judge wants say in GM search

Sean : 1/10/2022 5:44 pm
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"Judge also wants to have a hand in the GM search, according to a source, which might be an even tougher sell to the Giants owners"

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No kidding  
Dave in PA : 1/10/2022 5:46 pm : link
Otherwise he’s out on his ass if his actual performance dictates things and not his hand picked GM that he knows won’t can his ass
I like Judge a lot more than most here  
arniefez : 1/10/2022 5:46 pm : link
but hell no. The owners can't be that stupid. Can they?
Get lost  
nygiants16 : 1/10/2022 5:46 pm : link
add delusional to the list of things wrong with Judge
Yeah, sure, why not?  
Section331 : 1/10/2022 5:46 pm : link
I absolutely  
section125 : 1/10/2022 5:46 pm : link
do not believe this.
RE: I absolutely  
Anakim : 1/10/2022 5:48 pm : link
In comment 15543836 section125 said:
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do not believe this.


I do. Judge is arrogant enough to think his shit doesn't stink and he's doing a good job.
Oh im sure he wants it  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/10/2022 5:48 pm : link
Totally unearned. He's been given total freedom to name his staff and help pick players and done nothing with it.

He needs to make sure they are on board  
NoGainDayne : 1/10/2022 5:48 pm : link
with obscure success metrics instead of wins and losses
Ralph V.  
sphinx : 1/10/2022 5:49 pm : link
"Judge also wants to have a hand in the GM search, according to a source, which might be an even tougher sell to the Giants owners. He has made a push for them to promote assistant GM Kevin Abrams into Gettleman’s job, a source confirmed, because the two have worked well together and Abrams presumably wants to keep Judge as head coach."
 
christian : 1/10/2022 5:49 pm : link
Good one Ralph! Wait … seriously?
And we want a good coach.  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/10/2022 5:49 pm : link
He can fuck off.
He’s got some nerve  
JFIB : 1/10/2022 5:50 pm : link
As far as I’m concerned he doesn’t get a say in what gets ordered for lunch! You’ll get tuna and like it!
I think he recognizes it’s a two year project  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/10/2022 5:50 pm : link
They have tremendous needs and if he’s involved he thinks he can receive the necessary time. If he didn’t push for all the special team additions and skill guy additions I would maybe consider.
If this is even remotely true...  
bw in dc : 1/10/2022 5:50 pm : link
it's just another reason to put this pompous ass out of his misery.

I mean supercilious. Sorry.
RE: Ralph V.  
Anakim : 1/10/2022 5:50 pm : link
In comment 15543849 sphinx said:
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"because the two have worked well together"



And it's shown with the product on the field and our salary cap hell. They certainly have worked well together...in making this team a laughingstock and an abyss of misery.
RE: Ralph V.  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/10/2022 5:51 pm : link
In comment 15543849 sphinx said:
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"Judge also wants to have a hand in the GM search, according to a source, which might be an even tougher sell to the Giants owners. He has made a push for them to promote assistant GM Kevin Abrams into Gettleman’s job, a source confirmed, because the two have worked well together and Abrams presumably wants to keep Judge as head coach."


Too bad he's not gonna get Abrams.
This is why this situation is a mess  
AdamBrag : 1/10/2022 5:51 pm : link
Judge is actually right. If ownership has faith in him, he should be involved in the GM search because he and the GM should be on the same page.

The problem is that ownership doesn't have full confidence in him.
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL  
Bill in UT : 1/10/2022 5:51 pm : link
The guy has a pair of balls, gotta give him that. So Judge, who is hanging on by a thread, wants input into picking the guy who will help decide if Judge is retained. LOL
Imagine being this dude and  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/10/2022 5:51 pm : link
Demanding stuff! Where does he get off?
. . . .  
jeff57 : 1/10/2022 5:52 pm : link
Joe Judge should aim higher. Why not ask for a piece of ownership.
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RE: Ralph V.  
sphinx : 1/10/2022 5:53 pm : link
In comment 15543849 sphinx said:
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"Judge also wants to have a hand in the GM search, according to a source, which might be an even tougher sell to the Giants owners. He has made a push for them to promote assistant GM Kevin Abrams into Gettleman’s job, a source confirmed, because the two have worked well together and Abrams presumably wants to keep Judge as head coach."

Geoff Schwartz @geoffschwartz

Joe Judge should aim higher. Why not ask for a piece of ownership.
The balls on this guy  
Gap92 : 1/10/2022 5:53 pm : link
Makes himself harder to like every day.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/10/2022 5:54 pm : link
At this rate, JJ might see writing on the wall and knows he is gone so he's in Fuck it mode.
He acts like he's Belechick.  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/10/2022 5:55 pm : link
Meanwhile, in reality, everyone in the NFL is laughing at what a complete loser he is.
RE: ...  
Anakim : 1/10/2022 5:56 pm : link
In comment 15543881 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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At this rate, JJ might see writing on the wall and knows he is gone so he's in Fuck it mode.


Reminds me of that scene in Ted where Ted interviews for a job in the supermarket and says everything he can not to get it, but the manager appreciates his gumption and he gets hired.
This is the definition of a clown show  
Giantfan21 : 1/10/2022 5:56 pm : link
Judge needs to get the fuck out of here and the organization needs to start over with a clean slate
Fucking lol,  
darren in pdx : 1/10/2022 5:57 pm : link
Judge has not earned that right at all. Pray whoever gets the job is allowed to replace the coaches with full control.
RE: RE: I absolutely  
section125 : 1/10/2022 5:57 pm : link
In comment 15543843 Anakim said:
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In comment 15543836 section125 said:


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do not believe this.



I do. Judge is arrogant enough to think his shit doesn't stink and he's doing a good job.


Mmm, I still do not think it is true.
Judge is trying to force his way out  
JPinstripes : 1/10/2022 5:57 pm : link
and collect 3 years of pay and move on to his next gig.
Imagine being a terrible teacher  
Jersey Heel : 1/10/2022 5:57 pm : link
And telling the superintendent that you want a hand in choosing the new principal.
Who wouldn’t want input  
UberAlias : 1/10/2022 5:58 pm : link
In the person who will decide their employment fate.
Judge and Abrams have worked well together?  
bceagle05 : 1/10/2022 5:58 pm : link
On what? Home improvement projects?
Absurd  
Bernie : 1/10/2022 5:59 pm : link
However, where is Ralph getting this from? JJ is an arrogant ass, but it's not like him to be speaking about this with anyone he would not trust to keep their mouth shut.
Without knowing the details or veracity  
OlyWABigBlue : 1/10/2022 6:01 pm : link
it is usually not good to have too many higher ups/decision makers that are so aligned unless they have a long, proven track record of success at multiple career stops. It stifles ideas, honest and sometimes unwanted self-evaluation along with throttling the impetus to change. Not that we have seen any of that over the past 5 years....
Well he has certainly earned that right  
Mike from Ohio : 1/10/2022 6:01 pm : link
with all the losing and embarrassing meltdowns and what not.

Why not give the biggest anchor in your organization the keys and let him drive for a while?
Now I've heard everything.....  
Simms11 : 1/10/2022 6:02 pm : link
Are you freaking kidding me! Did ownership even entertain that thought?
RE: Judge and Abrams have worked well together?  
NoGainDayne : 1/10/2022 6:04 pm : link
In comment 15543897 bceagle05 said:
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On what? Home improvement projects?


- Culture

- Player Eyes

- Not fighting on the sidelines

You know, all the important stuff
He’s going to want someone  
GFAN52 : 1/10/2022 6:05 pm : link
With NE connections.
RE: Absurd  
christian : 1/10/2022 6:05 pm : link
In comment 15543902 Bernie said:
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However, where is Ralph getting this from? JJ is an arrogant ass, but it's not like him to be speaking about this with anyone he would not trust to keep their mouth shut.


I don’t think recent actions indicate Judge knows when to shut his mouth.
“You ain’t seeing that”  
TyreeHelmet : 1/10/2022 6:07 pm : link
This clown should thank his lucky stars. There isn’t another franchise that would have kept him after the garbage he has produced.
Not watching another year  
averagejoe : 1/10/2022 6:10 pm : link
of Barkley Jones and Judge. Pisarcik Kotar and McVay were better. I thought that was the low point.

I was wrong.
This is the third separate report about Judge lobbying for Abrams  
shyster : 1/10/2022 6:11 pm : link
Our asshat Essex two days ago.

Jay Glazer yesterday.

Ralph V today. With the comment that "a source confirmed",which is an acknowledgement that the story was already out there.

If Judge is lobbying for Abrams, hard to deny that he wants a say as to whom the GM should be. And believes himself entitled.
It really is refreshing...  
bw in dc : 1/10/2022 6:12 pm : link
to see the near unanimity BBI seems to be showing on this.

Judge has really taken a wrecking ball to himself.

Go fuck yourself, Joe!  
Saos1n : 1/10/2022 6:12 pm : link
You don’t deserve a say
Sure he does  
AnnapolisMike : 1/10/2022 6:12 pm : link
and it won't hurt anything if Mara asks Judge what he thinks. He is the headcoach (for the time being)
This is just one reason you need to cut Judge lose no  
PatersonPlank : 1/10/2022 6:14 pm : link
He will do nothing but muck up the opportunity to hire a top GM
Have any of you asked yourself  
UConn4523 : 1/10/2022 6:15 pm : link
if you would want a hand in the GM search if you were a HC? Why wouldn’t you/Judge?

Asking and getting are two completely different things.
Sounds like the meeting went well  
ghost718 : 1/10/2022 6:16 pm : link
Judge is like Tom Quinn on steroids
They should invite Judge to sit in the room with the GM candidates  
widmerseyebrow : 1/10/2022 6:17 pm : link
And say: "All in favor of firing this dick head, raise your hand."

Whoever doesn't raise their hand should be "invited to the next round" which is a trip out of a self locking door by the dumpster.
The arrogance pisses me off  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 1/10/2022 6:17 pm : link
Just like Gettleman. Garbage on the field and a sense of entitlement.
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