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Ian O'Connor: Impression is Schoen is the one to beat for GM

BeckShepEli : 1/11/2022 10:06 am
"In talking to someone close to the Giants GM process a couple weeks ago, got the impression Joe Schoen might be the one to beat. The Bills exec was the first person mentioned at the time by the source among Giants targets & the first ID'd yesterday as an interview candidate."


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if so, I hope that means he brings Daboll with him..  
Capt. Don : 1/11/2022 10:07 am : link
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Sign me up  
terz22 : 1/11/2022 10:07 am : link
he's at the top of my list.
oh hell yes  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 1/11/2022 10:07 am : link
Justin Penik from Talkin Giants  
Sean : 1/11/2022 10:09 am : link
Said the Giants and Schoen have been talking through back channels since November. If true, this might wrap up quickly.
RE: Justin Penik from Talkin Giants  
Anakim : 1/11/2022 10:10 am : link
In comment 15545301 Sean said:
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Said the Giants and Schoen have been talking through back channels since November. If true, this might wrap up quickly.


Let's hope not because that may be considered tampering...
He’s the man for the job  
shocktheworld : 1/11/2022 10:10 am : link
I’ve said it from day one. Let him take over and bring Daboll as HC… Bills are in the playoffs anyway, so no one is getting Daboll hired for a bit. Gives time to bring in Schoen and fire Judge. Then we bring Daboll Andy his choice for OC and maybe we throw money and Asst HC/DC at Vic Fangio

Would lead to a solid foundation to get us back into contention ASAP
*and his choice  
shocktheworld : 1/11/2022 10:11 am : link
I reserve all judgement..as at this point results are only indicator  
George from PA : 1/11/2022 10:12 am : link
Seems like the name most of BBI wants....so maybe the site gets back to being a fan site vs....the constant whining site it has become....

I like Buffalo's team make-up....but what exactly have they won? Have they even won a playoff game?
Fun fact:  
Anakim : 1/11/2022 10:12 am : link
Schoen in Yiddish means beautiful
I can see it  
AcesUp : 1/11/2022 10:13 am : link
Has a Parcells connection too. I've seen some of his media and he should interview extremely well.
Would love it if it were to happen.  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/11/2022 10:13 am : link
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I’m anticipating a long term deal for Jones  
giantBCP : 1/11/2022 10:13 am : link
no matter who the new GM is, and it brings me great joy to know that the level of butthurt the resident trolls and clowns will feel will be through the roof.
Seems that way  
jeff57 : 1/11/2022 10:13 am : link
Which may mean that he’s agreed to keep Judge on. If not, I could live with either Daboll or Leslie Frazier as coach.
RE: I’m anticipating a long term deal for Jones  
jeff57 : 1/11/2022 10:15 am : link
In comment 15545322 giantBCP said:
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no matter who the new GM is, and it brings me great joy to know that the level of butthurt the resident trolls and clowns will feel will be through the roof.


They’re not going to do that at this point. Especially given the neck situation.
Has seemed that way for a bit  
mattlawson : 1/11/2022 10:15 am : link
Can’t be worse than what we have right now
Not this offseason  
giantBCP : 1/11/2022 10:16 am : link
Maybe after we pick up his fifth year option.
RE: I’m anticipating a long term deal for Jones  
Producer : 1/11/2022 10:18 am : link
In comment 15545322 giantBCP said:
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no matter who the new GM is, and it brings me great joy to know that the level of butthurt the resident trolls and clowns will feel will be through the roof.


Haha sure.. because we want our team to be stuck with a bottom tier QB for a long time.
RE: I’m anticipating a long term deal for Jones  
lax counsel : 1/11/2022 10:18 am : link
In comment 15545322 giantBCP said:
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no matter who the new GM is, and it brings me great joy to know that the level of butthurt the resident trolls and clowns will feel will be through the roof.


I doubt they pick up his 5th year option, let along a long term deal. You typically don't provide long term deals to future league back-ups.
I can live with that.  
Section331 : 1/11/2022 10:19 am : link
From what I've seen about the Bills' FO structure, it isn't built the way the more "progressive" teams are, but he's got a solid background.
Schoen  
Sammo85 : 1/11/2022 10:19 am : link
might be one of the few candidates who would keep Judge around and try to recruit Daboll here (if the rumored friction between him and McDermott this year on playcalling is true) as OC to add to resume and get HC job elsewhere.
Fine  
AcidTest : 1/11/2022 10:19 am : link
with me, but he has to have the authority to immediately fire Judge.
RE: I’m anticipating a long term deal for Jones  
Scooter185 : 1/11/2022 10:22 am : link
In comment 15545322 giantBCP said:
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no matter who the new GM is, and it brings me great joy to know that the level of butthurt the resident trolls and clowns will feel will be through the roof.


And when that doesn't happen, how will you feel?
RE: Schoen  
GFAN52 : 1/11/2022 10:22 am : link
In comment 15545346 Sammo85 said:
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might be one of the few candidates who would keep Judge around and try to recruit Daboll here (if the rumored friction between him and McDermott this year on playcalling is true) as OC to add to resume and get HC job elsewhere.


Don't see him making a lateral move as OC. Daboll is cashing in this year. The Dolphins and Bears have already requested an interview for their head coaching vacancies.
There's no guarantee anyone is going to be successful  
mikeinbloomfield : 1/11/2022 10:23 am : link
but while the Bills haven't won anything yet, that roster is looking pretty good.

He's a nice mix of young and experienced, having been with at least three teams in the scouting department and front office.

I don't give a crap what he does with Judge. If he wants to see what Judge does with (hopefully) fewer injuries and better players, go for it. If he thinks the Captain Queeg act from the last few weeks is a dealbreaker, bye bye.
RE: I can live with that.  
bleedgiantsblue : 1/11/2022 10:24 am : link
In comment 15545345 Section331 said:
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From what I've seen about the Bills' FO structure, it isn't built the way the more "progressive" teams are, but he's got a solid background.


From what I've read, the Bills did not have a progressive or analytics minded front office before Beane/Schoen arrived. Those two have been building that there themselves. I think Penik's video outlined that well.
lol  
drake88 : 1/11/2022 10:25 am : link
Daniel Jones isn't getting a long term deal. WTF.

And is Mara actually going to make good decisions?If this is the hire I'll be so happy and gladly eat crow for being wrong about him.
PLEASE MAKE IT SO!  
Simms11 : 1/11/2022 10:25 am : link
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Anyone subscribed to the Athletic?  
Anakim : 1/11/2022 10:25 am : link
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RE: RE: I’m anticipating a long term deal for Jones  
giantBCP : 1/11/2022 10:25 am : link
In comment 15545357 Scooter185 said:
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In comment 15545322 giantBCP said:


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no matter who the new GM is, and it brings me great joy to know that the level of butthurt the resident trolls and clowns will feel will be through the roof.



And when that doesn't happen, how will you feel?


I’ll be happy when Jones is succeeding elsewhere. I’d actually prefer that he goes to to the Eagles and torments us.
I love what the Bills have been doing up here in the North Country  
aka dbrny : 1/11/2022 10:26 am : link
steady, solid drafts. Heavy focus on the trenches.

Josh Allen was a difference-maker pick. Always some question about whether a pick like that makes everyone look better than they are.
He’s at the top  
Bones : 1/11/2022 10:26 am : link
Of my list. Stay away from anyone with New England ties. We need fresh blood in the organization.
RE: RE: RE: I’m anticipating a long term deal for Jones  
Scooter185 : 1/11/2022 10:27 am : link
In comment 15545372 giantBCP said:
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In comment 15545357 Scooter185 said:


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In comment 15545322 giantBCP said:


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no matter who the new GM is, and it brings me great joy to know that the level of butthurt the resident trolls and clowns will feel will be through the roof.



And when that doesn't happen, how will you feel?



I’ll be happy when Jones is succeeding elsewhere. I’d actually prefer that he goes to to the Eagles and torments us.


So you're a Jones fan and not a Giants fan. Got it. Hopefully he's traded and you can take joy in watching him hold a clipboard
RE: I reserve all judgement..as at this point results are only indicator  
Shecky : 1/11/2022 10:27 am : link
In comment 15545314 George from PA said:
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so maybe the site gets back to being a fan site vs....the constant whining site it has become....?


I guess you haven’t been around here wry long then lol
RE: I reserve all judgement..as at this point results are only indicator  
Jerry in_DC : 1/11/2022 10:30 am : link
In comment 15545314 George from PA said:
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Seems like the name most of BBI wants....so maybe the site gets back to being a fan site vs....the constant whining site it has become....

I like Buffalo's team make-up....but what exactly have they won? Have they even won a playoff game?


My understanding is that NFL games are not televised and there is no public record of them available. Perhaps we can have someone from BBI drive to Buffalo and ask around. Otherwise the Bills playoff outcomes may remain a mystery
I'm already irrationally attached to the idea that he comes here  
Heisenberg : 1/11/2022 10:36 am : link
and rescues us.
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lax counsel : 1/11/2022 10:37 am : link
In comment 15545395 Jerry in_DC said:
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In comment 15545314 George from PA said:


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Seems like the name most of BBI wants....so maybe the site gets back to being a fan site vs....the constant whining site it has become....

I like Buffalo's team make-up....but what exactly have they won? Have they even won a playoff game?



My understanding is that NFL games are not televised and there is no public record of them available. Perhaps we can have someone from BBI drive to Buffalo and ask around. Otherwise the Bills playoff outcomes may remain a mystery


We may never know if they played KC for the AFC championship in January of 2021.
I've had it my head  
Biteymax22 : 1/11/2022 10:39 am : link
for a few weeks that it was between him and Poles, with the worry Mara was going to revert to his old self and just hire Abrams.

With Abrams confirmed as not a candidate, I'm really hoping my first instinct was right and its either Schoen or Poles.
RE: I love what the Bills have been doing up here in the North Country  
Strahan91 : 1/11/2022 10:41 am : link
In comment 15545376 aka dbrny said:
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steady, solid drafts. Heavy focus on the trenches.

Josh Allen was a difference-maker pick. Always some question about whether a pick like that makes everyone look better than they are.

While definitely true for many candidates, the year before drafting Allen they made the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor. That was a roster many thought would be amongst the league's bottom feeders which was very impressive. Of course, it's just one season and isn't necessarily indicative of anything but it was pretty surprising at the time.
Maybe the interview will go like this  
ghost718 : 1/11/2022 10:42 am : link
"If you can bring Daboll in here as offensive coordinator,the job is yours"

"Or else we're gonna hire Abrams"
RE: Maybe the interview will go like this  
GFAN52 : 1/11/2022 10:45 am : link
In comment 15545437 ghost718 said:
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"If you can bring Daboll in here as offensive coordinator,the job is yours"

"Or else we're gonna hire Abrams"


Why do you think Daboll would come here as an OC when he'll likely get offered HC opportunities elsewhere? He's already slated to interview with the Browns and Dolphins.
RE: I reserve all judgement..as at this point results are only indicator  
Go Terps : 1/11/2022 10:48 am : link
In comment 15545314 George from PA said:
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Seems like the name most of BBI wants....so maybe the site gets back to being a fan site vs....the constant whining site it has become....

I like Buffalo's team make-up....but what exactly have they won? Have they even won a playoff game?


Jesus Christ...
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Jerry in_DC : 1/11/2022 10:49 am : link
In comment 15545418 lax counsel said:
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In comment 15545395 Jerry in_DC said:


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In comment 15545314 George from PA said:





We may never know if they played KC for the AFC championship in January of 2021.


WHAT??? How did you hear obout this? Do you have some kind of illegal satellite feed? I won't believe until I see proof
...  
ryanmkeane : 1/11/2022 10:50 am : link
Schoen is very impressive and likely an extremely hard worker. That being said - does he have an eye for talent? That's the big question for me with all these GM candidates. It's great to have the process in place and run everything smoothly, but can you hit on early picks and find some gems?
RE: ...  
GFAN52 : 1/11/2022 10:51 am : link
In comment 15545466 ryanmkeane said:
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Schoen is very impressive and likely an extremely hard worker. That being said - does he have an eye for talent? That's the big question for me with all these GM candidates. It's great to have the process in place and run everything smoothly, but can you hit on early picks and find some gems?


Whatever GM is hired has to totally revamp the scouting department.
RE: lol  
brandozilla : 1/11/2022 10:52 am : link
In comment 15545368 drake88 said:
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Daniel Jones isn't getting a long term deal. WTF.

And is Mara actually going to make good decisions?If this is the hire I'll be so happy and gladly eat crow for being wrong about him.


Yea seriously. Unless its like a 10 year deal at 2 million per, I might sign up for that lol.

He needs to perform before he gets paid.
RE: I’m anticipating a long term deal for Jones  
djm : 1/11/2022 10:58 am : link
In comment 15545322 giantBCP said:
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no matter who the new GM is, and it brings me great joy to know that the level of butthurt the resident trolls and clowns will feel will be through the roof.


I'd like to take that bet. I don't think Jones gets a long term deal ever but if he did it would come in a year or so. Not now.
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aka dbrny : 1/11/2022 11:13 am : link
In comment 15545460 Go Terps said:
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In comment 15545314 George from PA said:


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Seems like the name most of BBI wants....so maybe the site gets back to being a fan site vs....the constant whining site it has become....

I like Buffalo's team make-up....but what exactly have they won? Have they even won a playoff game?



Jesus Christ...


They've won the division two years in a row...in the division that includes the Patriots. They've had three winning seasons in a row.

Meanwhile, in Northern New Jersey....
RE: I’m anticipating a long term deal for Jones  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/11/2022 11:17 am : link
In comment 15545322 giantBCP said:
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isn't medically cleared to play and hasn't even had his injury disclosed but is going to sign a long term deal when he's on the books for peanuts next season?
If his health permits  
giantBCP : 1/11/2022 11:18 am : link
Obviously.
RE: oh hell yes  
Jimmy Googs : 1/11/2022 11:28 am : link
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that's funny
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