Rodgers was on the Pat McAfee Show again today, laughing at our offensive gameplan with the rest of the world. pretty funny exchange - Here's what he said:
"You play to win the game.. nobody wants to be part of that. You want to get in the playoffs? No one wants to be a part of like kneeling the shit out to take a tie. You know what would make me lose my mind almost as much as that? 3rd & 9 on the -5, let's go in goal-line personnel and run a QB sneak... call that one in, and they'll see what happens."
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Get this guy the Fuck outa here
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Jake Fromm, a 3rd string QB picked up from the scrap heap is a completely different player than Aaron Rodgers.
how is it overblown...we were at the 4 yard line. I don't care about having confidence in your QB...but you don't have confidence in your OL to call a simple run play and not lose 4 yards?
Just hand it off the the RB touched by god...instead of embarrassing yourself.
The QB for the #1 seed is talking about it. Who gives a shit. Why is he worried about it? No coach is calling that who has Rodgers in there, or even a semi-functional QB (or offense).
Shit, everybody here was saying don't win the game and mess up the draft position, then they are on here bitching about a call in a game with the 3rd string QB for a 4-12 team. Admittedly, I stopped caring about this season about 6 games ago.
Make no mistake, Judge should be canned. But I just think this is being way overblown when it is being a topic of conversation around the league. Shitty coach makes shitty call with shitty third string QB in shitty field position. News at 11
He's done it all year too. This was some sort of passive aggressive swipe at the personnel that blew up in his face.
So he could tell ownership if he had all his players he would have won.
I have defended Judge in the past but no longer.
Between the double quarterback sneak and his press conferences he needs to go. And the reason being he has no self awareness. He doesn't seam to have the ability to reflect in advance how his actions will resonate with the team, fans, owners.
Can't have someone like that in charge.
AGREE AGREE AGREE
That’s bs. It’s the identity of joe judge as coach. He coaches to keep it close not to win. I guess he’d rather loose by 10 then loose by 20.
A head coach should be worried about what is this telling my team? What message am I sending to the teams I compete with about my team? What football player wants to go down and out kneeling? This is NFL football these guys are risking their careers and their lives after football on every play and their head coach is taking a knee on 3rd and 9?
Joe Judge IMO deserves to be fired because right now the job is too big for him and has broken him. I like Joe Judge. If his next few career moves are smart ones he could get a second chance somewhere else a few years from now. But I think there are way better options for the Giants in 2022. Until someone hires Flores the Giants should keep the light on. His teams walked the Judge talk and he was fired because he thinks Tua shouldn't be on scholarship and he's correct IMO. I'd take Jones over Tua and I'd take Flores over Judge. I'd take Zimmer over Judge too.
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Jake Fromm, a 3rd string QB picked up from the scrap heap is a completely different player than Aaron Rodgers.
That’s bs. It’s the identity of joe judge as coach. He coaches to keep it close not to win. I guess he’d rather loose by 10 then loose by 20.
Correct, that's who Judge is. I was a lot more pissed about the conservative BS after the Bradberry interception in the first WFT game than I am about this. Who cares at this point? It's a coach who won't be there next season making a dumb play call with a QB who has no business being in there. Don't know why it is this newsworthy.
Not sure why the outrage from some here who view tanking and losing as a viable strategy that would somehow help this franchise. For some reason unknown to me Judge gave those people a taste of what they were calling for.
Shouldn't be any problem for some.
You are looking at this wrong. This is a great thing.
The likely back-to-back MVP on a national show belittling our incompetent NYG HC. The more of this the better to humiliate this HC and organization.
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Don't know why it is this newsworthy.
You are looking at this wrong. This is a great thing.
The likely back-to-back MVP on a national show belittling our incompetent NYG HC. The more of this the better to humiliate this HC and organization.
I agree your comment and also agree with Rodgers. As a competitor, I am NEVER giving up. Maybe with less than a minute to play and down two touchdowns. Otherwise, I would not tolerate my team mates or coaches mailing it in.
So why bother playing? Just forfeit.
That said I am glad they lost.
A first down is just as likely as a fumble or a safety. You don't have to run sweep or have the QB drop back in the end zone to pass. A simple handoff to fullback in an I formation would accomplish the same result as a QB sneak.
A bad team is often called a laughingstock, but it's not really true. No one is really laughing at the Jags or the Lions, for example. We all admit that they suck, but no one is really laughing at them. Mostly we just see them as unfortunate teams that can't get the job done, but who come to play hard.
But literally the entire league and half the internet are straight up just laughing at us. We ARE a laughingstock, in a literal sense, and also just as bad as those bad clubs. Being bad is bad enough, but being a chicken shit, no-guts, mind-numbingly terrible, butt-of-every-joke team is just embarrassing and unacceptable. And that's what has become of this team under Judge. We weren't a laughingstock under Shurmur or McAdoo.
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Jake Fromm, a 3rd string QB picked up from the scrap heap is a completely different player than Aaron Rodgers.
Nobody is comparing the 2 QBs. But it is not unreasonable to expect a professional team to call an actual play there. You have a RB touched by the hand of G-d. Hand him the ball. You have Penny who has done well on limited touches. Hand him the ball. Booker has shown a decent ability to pick up some tough yards. Even if you pass, play action or screen or something, with the instructions for Fromm to throw it away if he doesn't see anything immediately. But, 2 straight sneaks was embarrassing.
You are misconstruing what I said. Nowhere did I say it was the right call. I said it was overblown when it was posted that Rodgers is talking about it. It is hardly that important a league-wide story IMO.
Call a run for gods sake like any other coach that wants to be conservative and not a complete jackass.
+1
At least there would've been a slight possibility an RB could have picked up the 9 yards.
I get your point. The field was icy, the temperature was frigid, and winds were howling in this huge game to determine the NFCE winner.
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Jake Fromm, a 3rd string QB picked up from the scrap heap is a completely different player than Aaron Rodgers.
Nobody is comparing the 2 QBs. But it is not unreasonable to expect a professional team to call an actual play there. You have a RB touched by the hand of G-d. Hand him the ball. You have Penny who has done well on limited touches. Hand him the ball. Booker has shown a decent ability to pick up some tough yards. Even if you pass, play action or screen or something, with the instructions for Fromm to throw it away if he doesn't see anything immediately. But, 2 straight sneaks was embarrassing.
You are misconstruing what I said. Nowhere did I say it was the right call. I said it was overblown when it was posted that Rodgers is talking about it. It is hardly that important a league-wide story IMO.
A coach that gives up on his team is a league-wide story. It also makes that coach & that team a league-wide joke.
He's a shithead and a baby. Fuck him.
Punting with 5 minutes left down 2 scores is just giving up on the game but nobody even brings it up . I honestly think Judge chose to punt because if they didn't convert the Bears would have scored more points and the final score would be worse for Judge.
So Judge cared more about the optics of the final score then trying to win the game. Fuck him and fuck Mara for not firing him yet
+1,000
His job in week 18 is not to win the game ugly.
His job is to continue to improve and embolden a beleaguered offense.
What is the point of a field position win for a team this bad.
It shows a lack of imagination and poor decision-making. And he still lost by two TDs to a bad football team.
Everyone watches the game. You just have a different opinion not many other people hold. You like the approach of setting up for a punt on 2nd down. Not everyone else does.
The 3rd down sneak, was complete insanity.
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you can tell most of you dont watch the game. If he called back to back runs it would a safety or a fumble for a td. Judge knows more than anyone how bad the offensive line was performing.
So why bother playing? Just forfeit.
He was playing to win. He thought the best approach in a close game with what we have on O was to avoid a killer mistake by being very conservative. The much bigger problem is having a team so bad you feel as a coach that’s your best bet.
Exactly. And if he gets stuffed for no gain, punt away. If he gets buried for a safety again, free kick it away. Both better outcomes than not even trying
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on both 2nd and 3rd down and nobody would be talking about this.
Exactly. And if he gets stuffed for no gain, punt away. If he gets buried for a safety again, free kick it away. Both better outcomes than not even trying
Yes. This is where you turn to your Touched By The Hand of God RB and tell him to "get us at least zero yards"...
He was playing to win. He thought the best approach in a close game with what we have on O was to avoid a killer mistake by being very conservative. The much bigger problem is having a team so bad you feel as a coach that’s your best bet.
I see it differently. I believe Judge was playing not to lose and keep it to an acceptable margin. And that's what makes it worse.
Washington came into the game with one of the best rush defenses in the league (8th in yard per game allowed), but a poor pass defense (29th). What we should have done, if we were truly trying to win, is let Fromm come out throwing from the get-go. Instead, I think we only attempted 9 pass attempts in the first half.
Does that sound like a winning strategy?
Judge made a lot of mistakes in 2021, but the one that should get him fired was the way the offense was conducted once Glennon and Fromm played. It was a complete fucking joke. No one is saying Glennon and Fromm are good, but they weren't even given a chance by their coaches. Judge's staff acted like Daniel Jones was the only starting QB to ever get hurt. They were completely unprepared for it, and they didn't do anything to cater their offense to the new QB.
It was absolutely pathetic. Shameful from Judge. Shameful.
Unprepared for a QB to get hurt that gets hurt often. It was ridiculous, and you're right, emblematic of how unprepared they were.
I can almost guarantee those calls on 2nd and 3rd down were direct order from Judge to Kitchens. No OC worth their salt would make those calls.
There is no way an OC makes those calls on his own. Any HC with a clue would fire him on the spot.
(1) a team running back-to-back QB sneaks on 2nd and 3rd and long.
(2) fans defending it.
His accuracy short is all over the place, and he rarely puts air under the ball to push it down field. He can't make the throws.
(1) a team running back-to-back QB sneaks on 2nd and 3rd and long.
(2) fans defending it.
Exactly.
The entire world is mocking us, yet some fans just don’t understand the outrage. It was probably the most embarrassed I’ve ever been as a fan. There is no defending it
Great QB, but a douchebag off it.
Fuck him. Hope he loses 3 straight NFC Championship games.
I wasn't sure I believed my eyes.
Great QB, but a douchebag off it.
Fuck him. Hope he loses 3 straight NFC Championship games.
Why? Because he told you the truth?
I'd take Rodgers n my team in a millisecond.
He was playing to win. He thought the best approach in a close game with what we have on O was to avoid a killer mistake by being very conservative. The much bigger problem is having a team so bad you feel as a coach that’s your best bet.
He was playing to win?!? HE WAS PLAYING TO WIN?!?
What are you on, PCP? Or is this Joe Judge's account? Please tell me that you are not a complete brain-damaged moron and that this is a joke.
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Jake Fromm, a 3rd string QB picked up from the scrap heap is a completely different player than Aaron Rodgers.
That’s bs. It’s the identity of joe judge as coach. He coaches to keep it close not to win. I guess he’d rather loose by 10 then loose by 20.
Correct, that's who Judge is. I was a lot more pissed about the conservative BS after the Bradberry interception in the first WFT game than I am about this. Who cares at this point? It's a coach who won't be there next season making a dumb play call with a QB who has no business being in there. Don't know why it is this newsworthy.
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I never thought I would see:
(1) a team running back-to-back QB sneaks on 2nd and 3rd and long.
(2) fans defending it.
Exactly.
The entire world is mocking us, yet some fans just don’t understand the outrage. It was probably the most embarrassed I’ve ever been as a fan. There is no defending it
Troy Aikman called us sad. He's got like 6 brain cells left and he managed to pity us. I almost shut the game off but didn't for the main reason of seeing if I was going to miss anything worse