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Aaron Rodgers on 3rd & 9 QB sneak

AJ23 : 1/11/2022 3:41 pm
Rodgers was on the Pat McAfee Show again today, laughing at our offensive gameplan with the rest of the world. pretty funny exchange - Here's what he said:

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"You play to win the game.. nobody wants to be part of that. You want to get in the playoffs? No one wants to be a part of like kneeling the shit out to take a tie. You know what would make me lose my mind almost as much as that? 3rd & 9 on the -5, let's go in goal-line personnel and run a QB sneak... call that one in, and they'll see what happens."

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F him  
Daniel in MI : 1/11/2022 4:57 pm : link
The obsession with the QB sneaks is SO blown out of proportion, like JJ or hate him. News flash: it worked. We punted, forced a punt, got it back at our 20. Had he run and got stuffed for a safety again they’d light him up for not learning from last week. Not having faith in our O? What gave anyone any faith in our O? The great play of our OL or backs? Jake Fromm’s gifts (he threw a pick six pretty soon after showing why maybe you play save inside your 10).

He was playing to win. He thought the best approach in a close game with what we have on O was to avoid a killer mistake by being very conservative. The much bigger problem is having a team so bad you feel as a coach that’s your best bet.

RE: All they needed to do was handoff to Saquan...  
mfsd : 1/11/2022 5:02 pm : link
In comment 15546260 EricJ said:
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on both 2nd and 3rd down and nobody would be talking about this.


Exactly. And if he gets stuffed for no gain, punt away. If he gets buried for a safety again, free kick it away. Both better outcomes than not even trying
Judge and Kitchens are an embarrasement  
PatersonPlank : 1/11/2022 5:17 pm : link
What players (who are any good) will want to play for these guys now. They are laughing stocks around the league
RE: RE: All they needed to do was handoff to Saquan...  
Jimmy Googs : 1/11/2022 5:19 pm : link
In comment 15546398 mfsd said:
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In comment 15546260 EricJ said:


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on both 2nd and 3rd down and nobody would be talking about this.



Exactly. And if he gets stuffed for no gain, punt away. If he gets buried for a safety again, free kick it away. Both better outcomes than not even trying


Yes. This is where you turn to your Touched By The Hand of God RB and tell him to "get us at least zero yards"...
RE: F him  
bw in dc : 1/11/2022 5:24 pm : link
In comment 15546394 Daniel in MI said:
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He was playing to win. He thought the best approach in a close game with what we have on O was to avoid a killer mistake by being very conservative. The much bigger problem is having a team so bad you feel as a coach that’s your best bet.


I see it differently. I believe Judge was playing not to lose and keep it to an acceptable margin. And that's what makes it worse.

Washington came into the game with one of the best rush defenses in the league (8th in yard per game allowed), but a poor pass defense (29th). What we should have done, if we were truly trying to win, is let Fromm come out throwing from the get-go. Instead, I think we only attempted 9 pass attempts in the first half.

Does that sound like a winning strategy?
RE: It's not overblown  
Section331 : 1/11/2022 5:26 pm : link
In comment 15546249 Go Terps said:
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Players want to compete, and they want to know their coaches are working hard to put them in the best possible position to compete.

Judge made a lot of mistakes in 2021, but the one that should get him fired was the way the offense was conducted once Glennon and Fromm played. It was a complete fucking joke. No one is saying Glennon and Fromm are good, but they weren't even given a chance by their coaches. Judge's staff acted like Daniel Jones was the only starting QB to ever get hurt. They were completely unprepared for it, and they didn't do anything to cater their offense to the new QB.

It was absolutely pathetic. Shameful from Judge. Shameful.


Unprepared for a QB to get hurt that gets hurt often. It was ridiculous, and you're right, emblematic of how unprepared they were.
RE: RE: It's not overblown  
Section331 : 1/11/2022 5:27 pm : link
In comment 15546255 bw in dc said:
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I can almost guarantee those calls on 2nd and 3rd down were direct order from Judge to Kitchens. No OC worth their salt would make those calls.


There is no way an OC makes those calls on his own. Any HC with a clue would fire him on the spot.
Two things  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/11/2022 5:27 pm : link
I never thought I would see:

(1) a team running back-to-back QB sneaks on 2nd and 3rd and long.

(2) fans defending it.
did you read Sy's analysis?  
NoPeanutz : 1/11/2022 5:28 pm : link
Fromm doesnt have NFL talent or arm. There is no such thing as letting Fromm sling it to win it.
His accuracy short is all over the place, and he rarely puts air under the ball to push it down field. He can't make the throws.
RE: Two things  
BigBlueShock : 1/11/2022 5:31 pm : link
In comment 15546449 Eric from BBI said:
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I never thought I would see:

(1) a team running back-to-back QB sneaks on 2nd and 3rd and long.

(2) fans defending it.

Exactly.

The entire world is mocking us, yet some fans just don’t understand the outrage. It was probably the most embarrassed I’ve ever been as a fan. There is no defending it
Cool  
McNally's_Nuts : 1/11/2022 5:38 pm : link
Now someone remind Rodgers of his record in conference championship games.

Great QB, but a douchebag off it.

Fuck him. Hope he loses 3 straight NFC Championship games.
honestly it was so bizarre  
Producer : 1/11/2022 5:50 pm : link
it was jaw-dropping.

I wasn't sure I believed my eyes.
RE: Cool  
Producer : 1/11/2022 5:51 pm : link
In comment 15546534 McNally's_Nuts said:
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Now someone remind Rodgers of his record in conference championship games.

Great QB, but a douchebag off it.

Fuck him. Hope he loses 3 straight NFC Championship games.


Why? Because he told you the truth?

I'd take Rodgers n my team in a millisecond.
RE: F him  
Regular Coffee : 1/11/2022 6:00 pm : link
In comment 15546394 Daniel in MI said:
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The obsession with the QB sneaks is SO blown out of proportion, like JJ or hate him. News flash: it worked. We punted, forced a punt, got it back at our 20. Had he run and got stuffed for a safety again they’d light him up for not learning from last week. Not having faith in our O? What gave anyone any faith in our O? The great play of our OL or backs? Jake Fromm’s gifts (he threw a pick six pretty soon after showing why maybe you play save inside your 10).

He was playing to win. He thought the best approach in a close game with what we have on O was to avoid a killer mistake by being very conservative. The much bigger problem is having a team so bad you feel as a coach that’s your best bet.


He was playing to win?!? HE WAS PLAYING TO WIN?!?

What are you on, PCP? Or is this Joe Judge's account? Please tell me that you are not a complete brain-damaged moron and that this is a joke.
3rd and 9 from the 4  
bluepepper : 1/11/2022 6:20 pm : link
is something you see converted a lot in the NFL. Even from garbage QB's with lousy OL. It ain't that hard. He could have gotten away with a hand off if he was so scared. Total surrender was inexcusable.
RE: IMO it's not overblown  
Red Right Hand : 1/11/2022 7:26 pm : link
In comment 15546288 arniefez said:
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punting room at 4-12 in the last game of the season at home is what a ST coach should be worried about, not a head coach.
^ this
RE: RE: RE: this is so overblown  
Red Right Hand : 1/11/2022 7:29 pm : link
In comment 15546292 KDavies said:
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In comment 15546281 big_blue said:


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In comment 15546236 KDavies said:


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Jake Fromm, a 3rd string QB picked up from the scrap heap is a completely different player than Aaron Rodgers.



That’s bs. It’s the identity of joe judge as coach. He coaches to keep it close not to win. I guess he’d rather loose by 10 then loose by 20.



Correct, that's who Judge is. I was a lot more pissed about the conservative BS after the Bradberry interception in the first WFT game than I am about this. Who cares at this point? It's a coach who won't be there next season making a dumb play call with a QB who has no business being in there. Don't know why it is this newsworthy.
Because it's not every day you see that level of Knavery. Judge is a Knave.
It's pretty clear the QB sneaks were a statement by Judge  
Mike in ramapo college : 1/11/2022 7:30 pm : link
That he didn't believe he had pro personnel to do even simple things and likely was his way of shoving it in ownerships face.
RE: RE: Two things  
NoGainDayne : 1/11/2022 7:31 pm : link
In comment 15546470 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 15546449 Eric from BBI said:


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I never thought I would see:

(1) a team running back-to-back QB sneaks on 2nd and 3rd and long.

(2) fans defending it.


Exactly.

The entire world is mocking us, yet some fans just don’t understand the outrage. It was probably the most embarrassed I’ve ever been as a fan. There is no defending it


Troy Aikman called us sad. He's got like 6 brain cells left and he managed to pity us. I almost shut the game off but didn't for the main reason of seeing if I was going to miss anything worse
big ups to AR  
RasputinPrime : 1/11/2022 7:32 pm : link
he helped get us a new coach.
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