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UGADawgs7 : 1/11/2022 6:01 pm
Some of you may not like this comment. I don’t love Jones, and I don’t think he has top 10 potential in his career. A friend of mine who is on here and I have talked about this often. I think he will end up being similar to Alex Smith if he can remain healthy the rest of his career. I strongly believe IF he is healthy enough to play next year, you keep him with no 5th year option and if he plays good next year, tag him. If not, let him go. They have picks 5 and 7 and 2 3rd round picks as well. They need to build the O Line. They need to sign a competent backup QB. This draft class isn’t it, and we all can be proven wrong if one of the QB becomes a very good QB, but if not Corral or Pickett, maybe Willis which I doubt? It’ll be someone unexpected and not worthy of pick 5 or 7 in my opinion. If Jones is healthy and he has a healthy, decent young OL, he has a chance to be solid. Wasting the chance to possibly take 2 stud OL maybe Neal and Cross, or Cross and Green just to take a hopefully good QB, would be a really big mistake if said QB doesn’t work out. Take a QB next year, possibly move 7 back a few spots if you can get picks next year as ammo to try and get your guy in 2023.
he'll never be as good as Alex Jones  
Producer : 1/11/2022 6:04 pm : link
at Alex's peek. He has never showed great upside. Forget hi. He's not the answer.

We need better than the 20th best QB in the league. You can't win consistently with that.
RE: he'll never be as good as Alex Jones  
adamg : 1/11/2022 6:05 pm : link
In comment 15546754 Producer said:
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at Alex's peek. He has never showed great upside. Forget hi. He's not the answer.

We need better than the 20th best QB in the league. You can't win consistently with that.


Thanks SO much for that  
Greg from LI : 1/11/2022 6:06 pm : link
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Stick with him in 2022  
jeff57 : 1/11/2022 6:07 pm : link
If he fails to establish himself with, I expect, a much improved OL, then move on. There’s no one in the upcoming draft who’s better. But this will be his fourth offensive coordinator in four years.
RE: Thanks SO much for that  
adamg : 1/11/2022 6:09 pm : link
In comment 15546772 Greg from LI said:
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You're welcome, boss!
RE: RE: he'll never be as good as Alex Jones  
Bill in UT : 1/11/2022 6:11 pm : link
In comment 15546769 adamg said:
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at Alex's peek. He has never showed great upside. Forget hi. He's not the answer.

We need better than the 20th best QB in the league. You can't win consistently with that.





lol, what a great pic. Are you sure it isn't Freddie Kitchens?
I think he comps closer to Adam's Alex Jones than  
NoGainDayne : 1/11/2022 6:12 pm : link
the NFL one.

But in all seriousness, I don't get why everyone loves the Jones comparison. They both needed to be in the right offense to succeed absolutely but Daniel Jones has a glaring difference in that he seems to love turning the ball over. Alex Jones didn't have that burning desire. So it's not a good comp.

Trade the farm for Bryce young in 2023  
Tuckrule : 1/11/2022 6:14 pm : link
IF we can establish an offensive line this year and IF jones fails to produce behind that line. This is the year the foundation has to built. Next year move heaven and earth to get your QB. That’s my approach. If by some miracle jones has a very good year then you franchise him and make him do it again before dishing out a contract.
Am I crazy?  
adamg : 1/11/2022 6:14 pm : link
Who the fuck is NFL Alex Jones?

Do you mean Alex Smith?
This cud has been...  
BMac : 1/11/2022 6:14 pm : link
...pretty well chewed by now, eh?
RE: Stick with him in 2022  
BMCBikes : 1/11/2022 6:16 pm : link
In comment 15546789 jeff57 said:
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If he fails to establish himself with, I expect, a much improved OL, then move on. There’s no one in the upcoming draft who’s better. But this will be his fourth offensive coordinator in four years.


Ah, the new go to excuse for Jones..."it'll be his fourth OC!" It's always, always SOME excuse for Jones. The Giants deserve something better than the Hyundai of QBs. Personally, I'd trade im, if you could get anything for him, or make him a back up and I'd go out and get a bridge QB who can do next year and into the following year as a presumed Rookie QB comes in.
RE: RE: RE: he'll never be as good as Alex Jones  
adamg : 1/11/2022 6:16 pm : link
In comment 15546816 Bill in UT said:
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at Alex's peek. He has never showed great upside. Forget hi. He's not the answer.

We need better than the 20th best QB in the league. You can't win consistently with that.







lol, what a great pic. Are you sure it isn't Freddie Kitchens?
Kitchens has a bigger, fuller plate, I believe.
Looking to replace him in 2023  
giantstock : 1/11/2022 6:19 pm : link
When some supposed stud QB's become available.
Haha  
Producer : 1/11/2022 6:20 pm : link
Alex Smith OR Alex Jones..
RE: RE: Stick with him in 2022  
jeff57 : 1/11/2022 6:21 pm : link
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If he fails to establish himself with, I expect, a much improved OL, then move on. There’s no one in the upcoming draft who’s better. But this will be his fourth offensive coordinator in four years.



Ah, the new go to excuse for Jones..."it'll be his fourth OC!" It's always, always SOME excuse for Jones. The Giants deserve something better than the Hyundai of QBs. Personally, I'd trade im, if you could get anything for him, or make him a back up and I'd go out and get a bridge QB who can do next year and into the following year as a presumed Rookie QB comes in.


It is an excuse. That’s what hampered Alex Smith.
I'm probably in the minority  
Gman11 : 1/11/2022 6:27 pm : link
but I think Jones can be a pretty good QB with a decent OL. Even though his passing stats weren't great, you have to factor in his rushing stats too. Just like guys like Hurts or Jackson the meh passing stats don't tell the whole story.
RE: I'm probably in the minority  
UGADawgs7 : 1/11/2022 6:37 pm : link
In comment 15546954 Gman11 said:
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but I think Jones can be a pretty good QB with a decent OL. Even though his passing stats weren't great, you have to factor in his rushing stats too. Just like guys like Hurts or Jackson the meh passing stats don't tell the whole story.

Exactly. I don’t think he could be great, but if the neck is fine and he gets a decent OL, he has a chance to be a solid QB.
Jones has better physical skills than Alex Smith  
Mike from Ohio : 1/11/2022 6:40 pm : link
But I don't think he will be as reliable as Smith was because he just isn't as smart. If a light ever went on for Jones he could be really good, but after playing for Cutcliffe and then three years in the NFL? If it isn't on now it is probably not coming on.

As a backup QB with a tailored and paired down play sheet he can win you some games, but he is not likely to ever be a regular starter at the NFL level.
Make him prove himself in 2022  
Highlander : 1/11/2022 6:43 pm : link
He has talent. Just hasn't put it together on a consistent basis. I absolutely do not want to see the Giants use the #5 or #7 draft picks on a QB. Build the offensive line. Get him a offensive coordinator that well implement schemes and packages that maximize his strengths as well as his supporting cast. Bring in a vet to challenge him for the starting job (e.g. Case Keenum, Teddy Bridgewater, Marcus Mariota).

If DJ fails to meet performance expectations in 2022, then the new GM and head coach have any easy decision to make in 2023.
None of the team's other  
Beer Man : 1/11/2022 7:01 pm : link
skilled weapons on the O performed this year. I say fix the OL this year, and use next year to see what the team has (or not) at QB/RB/WR/TE
My biggest concern about Jones is his injuries. I think he's pretty  
Ira : 1/11/2022 7:05 pm : link
accurate, a good runner and a good leader.
I Don't Think Any QB Could Have Succeeded  
OntheRoad : 1/11/2022 9:12 pm : link

in this dysfunctional offense. They did not have the least talent in the league to work with.

If Jones can return with a good OC and play caller, he can be a franchise QB.
I just can't see him turning the corner  
j_rud : 1/11/2022 9:25 pm : link
Health is alone is a big hurdle. The mental processing is also a big hurdle. Those two things combined are just too much. If a new regime wants to hold on to him as they rebuild I guess that's fine but I'd just as soon turn the page.
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