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New GM, New Coach, Drafting QB back on the table???

bluewave : 1/11/2022 6:36 pm
Not sure how I feel about the current crop of QBs in this draft but I think with a new coach and GM on the deck, drafting a QB may be on the table. What do you guys think?
I hope not  
Pork Chop : 1/11/2022 6:40 pm : link
I don't think that Jones will ever be top ten, but there are so many holes on this team to fix before QB.
NO!!!  
River Mike : 1/11/2022 6:41 pm : link
For the love of GOD ... NO!!
Not this year  
Dankbeerman : 1/11/2022 6:42 pm : link
Build the foundation year.

would love to trade Barkley and move down with one of our picks to gather 2023 picks as well.
Cart before the horse....  
bLiTz 2k : 1/11/2022 6:44 pm : link
Fix this fucking roster and stop wasting assets.

Unless you're Go Terps and think teams should draft a QB every year, most people realize no QB is going to succeed on this league worst roster.
No  
ciggy : 1/11/2022 6:45 pm : link
Build the team and evaluate Jones this year
Re-Build  
Arkbach : 1/11/2022 6:49 pm : link
Gut the contracts. Build towards 2023 and beyond. We all know 2022 will suck, but make the right moves to give us hope.
RE: Not this year  
FranknWeezer : 1/11/2022 6:50 pm : link
In comment 15547056 Dankbeerman said:
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Build the foundation year.

would love to trade Barkley and move down with one of our picks to gather 2023 picks as well.


Agree. Imagine if we had anyone but Saquon at RB the past 2 years. Same results- couldn't have been any worse. I don't see how his "leadership" moved the needle any, either. And any 'star power' he brought the team has worn off. If you can trade that player for assets, especially when it's tear-down time, you do it. Forget where he was drafted, at this point.
Absolutely  
Mike from Ohio : 1/11/2022 6:50 pm : link
Everything is on the table. There is literally no position you could draft aside from kicker where you could say "we didn't need that."
I watched Pickett highlights today  
Producer : 1/11/2022 6:50 pm : link
Kid is a football player.

That fake slide was one of the best plays of the year, pro or college.

Just concerned about his size.
It better be!  
Grey Pilgrim : 1/11/2022 6:51 pm : link
:mad:
I don't think Barkley has any trade value right now.  
81_Great_Dane : 1/11/2022 7:00 pm : link
There's hardly anyone on the team who is tradeable. They certainly won't bring back much. They're coming off injuries, or they're on prohibitively expensive contracts, or they have been straight-up lousy.

Thomas is tradeable, but he looks like a foundation piece. I might consider trading him for a top-10 pick, but why? Good left tackles are hard to find.

Jones might bring a crappy pick, but he's coming off injury, you'd never get value for him.

Toney, injured a lot. Slayton, lousy. Shep, injured a lot and not great. Golladay, expensive and lousy. Barkley, injured and lousy. Bradberry, expensive. Martinez, injured. Williams, expensive. Dex, meh at best.

I want all these guys to thrive but they haven't.
RE: I don't think Barkley has any trade value right now.  
Dankbeerman : 1/11/2022 7:12 pm : link
In comment 15547163 81_Great_Dane said:
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There's hardly anyone on the team who is tradeable. They certainly won't bring back much. They're coming off injuries, or they're on prohibitively expensive contracts, or they have been straight-up lousy.

Thomas is tradeable, but he looks like a foundation piece. I might consider trading him for a top-10 pick, but why? Good left tackles are hard to find.

Jones might bring a crappy pick, but he's coming off injury, you'd never get value for him.

Toney, injured a lot. Slayton, lousy. Shep, injured a lot and not great. Golladay, expensive and lousy. Barkley, injured and lousy. Bradberry, expensive. Martinez, injured. Williams, expensive. Dex, meh at best.

I want all these guys to thrive but they haven't.


I think a Barkley trade has to be conditional and therefore invole picks in 2023 draft. I would think a 2023 3rd pick that can go to a 2 if he plays 14 games or a 1 if he hits 1200 scrimage yards or something could be worked out.
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I am Ninja : 1/11/2022 7:13 pm : link
I have no idea, but with a fresh pair in there they wont feel compeled to force it if its not there.

I think Jones is a turd, but I feel much better about them using 2022 as a reset year and keeping him around and figure it all out.
There's no OL to protect a QB, be it Jones or a draft pick QB....  
GFAN52 : 1/11/2022 7:15 pm : link
Fortify the OL and DL through the draft should be priority one.
Ofcourse it's back on the table  
anon837 : 1/11/2022 7:18 pm : link
There isn't one special player on this team. There a few nice pieces, but not one cornerstone, building block player. If the new GM and HC see a signal caller they can groom to be their guy, they will pull the trigger. You are not winning in this league without a QB. It's just that simple. If they feel Jones isn't the answer, prepare yourself to probably throw the remote when a 1st RD QB is announced for the Giants.
If the quality is not there, then no  
widmerseyebrow : 1/11/2022 7:20 pm : link
I look forward to having a GM that is smarter than the fans.
RE: I watched Pickett highlights today  
mphbullet36 : 1/11/2022 7:26 pm : link
In comment 15547106 Producer said:
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Kid is a football player.

That fake slide was one of the best plays of the year, pro or college.

Just concerned about his size.


I've watched 5 years of Pickett....he is ok nothing special. He had a great WR and the best WR in the country. He was mediocre his first 4 years. He had a special year but not top pick worthy.

The QB class next year is much better. I would actually compare Daniel Jones very similarly to Kenny Pickett. Both guys are good athletes, both guys are accurate passers. Both don't possess big arms.

Wait for the franchise changing QB and fix the trenches first.
RE: RE: I watched Pickett highlights today  
BleedBlue : 1/11/2022 7:30 pm : link
In comment 15547314 mphbullet36 said:
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In comment 15547106 Producer said:


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Kid is a football player.

That fake slide was one of the best plays of the year, pro or college.

Just concerned about his size.



I've watched 5 years of Pickett....he is ok nothing special. He had a great WR and the best WR in the country. He was mediocre his first 4 years. He had a special year but not top pick worthy.

The QB class next year is much better. I would actually compare Daniel Jones very similarly to Kenny Pickett. Both guys are good athletes, both guys are accurate passers. Both don't possess big arms.

Wait for the franchise changing QB and fix the trenches first.



Who is that guy? Young just doesnt do it for me. I saw him choke in a huge spot last night. I think waiting for the perectc qb prospect is silly
RE: I hope not  
Poktown Pete : 1/11/2022 9:54 pm : link
In comment 15547045 Pork Chop said:
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I don't think that Jones will ever be top ten, but there are so many holes on this team to fix before QB.

Bingo. Fix the line.
Maybe  
Scooter185 : 1/11/2022 9:59 pm : link
But there's other ways to fill QB for next year than with the next draft. Jones 100% can't be next year's starter though
RE: RE: I watched Pickett highlights today  
Producer : 1/11/2022 10:00 pm : link
In comment 15547314 mphbullet36 said:
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In comment 15547106 Producer said:


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Kid is a football player.

That fake slide was one of the best plays of the year, pro or college.

Just concerned about his size.



I've watched 5 years of Pickett....he is ok nothing special. He had a great WR and the best WR in the country. He was mediocre his first 4 years. He had a special year but not top pick worthy.

The QB class next year is much better. I would actually compare Daniel Jones very similarly to Kenny Pickett. Both guys are good athletes, both guys are accurate passers. Both don't possess big arms.

Wait for the franchise changing QB and fix the trenches first.


Jones isn't accurate and Pickett's arm looks better than Jones'.
No way on drafting a QB or trading Barkley  
Snablats : 1/11/2022 10:08 pm : link
As I said on another thread, roll with Jones. This year's QB crop is Goff/Trubisky/Wentz level. We will find out if Jones cant play or new GM/HC dont want him: if they trade down to pick up a 2023 1st rounder to aim at Stroud/Young

Why deal Barkley? Fix OL and scheme and see what he can do.
"Fix the OL first" isn't a thing  
Go Terps : 1/11/2022 10:11 pm : link
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RE: No way on drafting a QB or trading Barkley  
Producer : 1/11/2022 10:55 pm : link
In comment 15547820 Snablats said:
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As I said on another thread, roll with Jones. This year's QB crop is Goff/Trubisky/Wentz level. We will find out if Jones cant play or new GM/HC dont want him: if they trade down to pick up a 2023 1st rounder to aim at Stroud/Young

Why deal Barkley? Fix OL and scheme and see what he can do.


I think we already *found out* Jones can't play.
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