Josh McDaniels, Patriots offensive coordinator (Please no)
Brian Flores, former Dolphins head coach
Brian Daboll, Bills offensive coordinator
Byron Leftwich, Buccaneers offensive coordinator
Patrick Graham, Giants defensive coordinator
Todd Bowles, Buccaneers defensive coordinator
Doug Pederson, former Eagles head coach
Kellen Moore, Cowboys offensive coordinator
Jim Harbaugh, Michigan head coach
Jim Caldwell, former NFL head coach
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McDaniels? Graham?
No thanks.
Daboll, Leftwich and Moore are all intriguing.
Why are none of the beats mentioning Bienemy? Especially knowing Poles is interviewing here.
According to my wife he also has quote “pig face” 😂😂😂
Caldwell is 66- I think Giants are looking a little more long term after cycling through 5 coaches in 8 years. Not saying he can't coach 10-12 years, but it's less likely.
McDaniels- doubt they go back to the NE well after the Judge disaster although you shouldn't really look at candidates in a vacuum.
Leftwich- think he goes to Jax and would be a better fit there.
Bowles- NY media already ran his course with him. Was perceived to be too laid back with Jets.
Pederson- interesting but not sure the Giants will pursue him with his history (the guy literally tanked the Giants out of a playoff spot)
Flores- too similar to Judge although this guy actually has a clue how to run an NFL team
Daboll- this one seems to make some sense, especially if they hire Schoen. He's really ascended in Buffalo with Josh Allen after being middling OC for a few years (had an offense ranked in the bottom 5 in 3 of his 4 years as an OC between Cle, Mia, and KC)
Harbaugh- the wild card. Will need to find a GM who wants to work with him. Harbaugh, IMO, would be a home run hire- marquee name coaching marquee franchise, and guy who is a proven winner at the NFL level. From a media/network standpoint, Harbaugh to the Giants would be an amazing fit.
No more BB disciples. Especially that goof.
Caldwell is 66- I think Giants are looking a little more long term after cycling through 5 coaches in 8 years. Not saying he can't coach 10-12 years, but it's less likely.
McDaniels- doubt they go back to the NE well after the Judge disaster although you shouldn't really look at candidates in a vacuum.
Leftwich- think he goes to Jax and would be a better fit there.
Bowles- NY media already ran his course with him. Was perceived to be too laid back with Jets.
Pederson- interesting but not sure the Giants will pursue him with his history (the guy literally tanked the Giants out of a playoff spot)
Flores- too similar to Judge although this guy actually has a clue how to run an NFL team
Daboll- this one seems to make some sense, especially if they hire Schoen. He's really ascended in Buffalo with Josh Allen after being middling OC for a few years (had an offense ranked in the bottom 5 in 3 of his 4 years as an OC between Cle, Mia, and KC)
Harbaugh- the wild card. Will need to find a GM who wants to work with him. Harbaugh, IMO, would be a home run hire- marquee name coaching marquee franchise, and guy who is a proven winner at the NFL level. From a media/network standpoint, Harbaugh to the Giants would be an amazing fit.
This is an excellent assessment.
Yeah he did a good job developing Allen, but why is believed to be a good choice for a HC in NY?
I'm not seeing it. His play calling, and frankly entire offensive system is questionable (too reliant on Josh Allen's ability to run/create something out of nothing) for my tastes.
Flores or Moore would be of most interest from this list.
Flores has proven he can win and lead a team effectively.
Moore has been very creative with that offense in Dallas.
Leftwich is the new Bieniemy, no thanks.
Flores got results but that previously posted Miami Herald piece is a problem - what GM wants to hire a brooding, power hungry guy as head coach?
Caldwell is too old and mediocre. McDaniels is a wild card after the disastrous Denver stint, and will Mara want another NE guy so soon?
Bowles no chance in NYC again
Pederson is intriguing but seems a bit nutty, and the team seemed to fall off after Reich left for Indy - so who was really responsible for that title?
Caldwell is 66- I think Giants are looking a little more long term after cycling through 5 coaches in 8 years. Not saying he can't coach 10-12 years, but it's less likely.
McDaniels- doubt they go back to the NE well after the Judge disaster although you shouldn't really look at candidates in a vacuum.
Leftwich- think he goes to Jax and would be a better fit there.
Bowles- NY media already ran his course with him. Was perceived to be too laid back with Jets.
Pederson- interesting but not sure the Giants will pursue him with his history (the guy literally tanked the Giants out of a playoff spot)
Flores- too similar to Judge although this guy actually has a clue how to run an NFL team
Daboll- this one seems to make some sense, especially if they hire Schoen. He's really ascended in Buffalo with Josh Allen after being middling OC for a few years (had an offense ranked in the bottom 5 in 3 of his 4 years as an OC between Cle, Mia, and KC)
Harbaugh- the wild card. Will need to find a GM who wants to work with him. Harbaugh, IMO, would be a home run hire- marquee name coaching marquee franchise, and guy who is a proven winner at the NFL level. From a media/network standpoint, Harbaugh to the Giants would be an amazing fit.
You're spot on. It's funny to me how people who claim to know football gloss over Jim Harbaugh.
He's probably up there with the top 5 or 10 head coaches in the sport at either level along with BB, Andy Reid, Saban, his brother, Tomlin, Payton.
These are the guys who you should make your priority. All except 2 are a pipe dream but I would certainly want to talk to Jim Harbaugh and I'd probably sniff around Payton too considering he has no QB at the moment and we have additional draft picks.
There is major risk associated with just about everyone other than Harbaugh on Schwartz's list. Do people realize how high the stakes are at the moment? They're one more bad hire away from 4 failed head coaches in a row over a 9 year period. Would be nearly a decade of playing musical head coaches.
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Moore is too young, bit of a gamble.
Caldwell is 66- I think Giants are looking a little more long term after cycling through 5 coaches in 8 years. Not saying he can't coach 10-12 years, but it's less likely.
McDaniels- doubt they go back to the NE well after the Judge disaster although you shouldn't really look at candidates in a vacuum.
Leftwich- think he goes to Jax and would be a better fit there.
Bowles- NY media already ran his course with him. Was perceived to be too laid back with Jets.
Pederson- interesting but not sure the Giants will pursue him with his history (the guy literally tanked the Giants out of a playoff spot)
Flores- too similar to Judge although this guy actually has a clue how to run an NFL team
Daboll- this one seems to make some sense, especially if they hire Schoen. He's really ascended in Buffalo with Josh Allen after being middling OC for a few years (had an offense ranked in the bottom 5 in 3 of his 4 years as an OC between Cle, Mia, and KC)
Harbaugh- the wild card. Will need to find a GM who wants to work with him. Harbaugh, IMO, would be a home run hire- marquee name coaching marquee franchise, and guy who is a proven winner at the NFL level. From a media/network standpoint, Harbaugh to the Giants would be an amazing fit.
You're spot on. It's funny to me how people who claim to know football gloss over Jim Harbaugh.
He's probably up there with the top 5 or 10 head coaches in the sport at either level along with BB, Andy Reid, Saban, his brother, Tomlin, Payton.
These are the guys who you should make your priority. All except 2 are a pipe dream but I would certainly want to talk to Jim Harbaugh and I'd probably sniff around Payton too considering he has no QB at the moment and we have additional draft picks.
There is major risk associated with just about everyone other than Harbaugh on Schwartz's list. Do people realize how high the stakes are at the moment? They're one more bad hire away from 4 failed head coaches in a row over a 9 year period. Would be nearly a decade of playing musical head coaches.
Harbaugh won 70% of his games with SF. Yes, the roster was talented, but alot of those players developed when he arrived. They were a 6-10 team before he got there.
Harbaugh has an outstanding track record of developing QB's, dating back to Luck at Stanford. Always seemed to get the most out of the position in SF. Saved Alex Smith's career, and developed Kaepernick who was very good in his seasons under Harbaugh, not so much when he left.
Also impressive was how he changed that San Fran offense mid season with Kaepernick the year they lost to Baltimore in the SB. That offense was perfect for Kaepernicks strengths. It was innovative as well- don't think the zone read had ever been incorporated into an NFL offense prior to that 49ERS team.
Plus its NY and fans are so fucking cut throat here.
1 thing for sure: Needs to be a veteran.
I would be interested in Peterson
Pederson is intriguing but seems a bit nutty, and the team seemed to fall off after Reich left for Indy - so who was really responsible for that title?
Pederson did some incredible work getting that Eagles team to the playoffs when Wentz went down ('18 and '19, both years after winning the SB with Foles in '17). Those teams were ravaged by injuries.
In total, he was in Philly five years and got to the playoffs three. And posted a 4-2 playoff record.
I think we should give him a serious look.
No interest AT ALL in Dan Quinn. Did nothing without Kyle Shanahan in the picture.
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Pederson is intriguing but seems a bit nutty, and the team seemed to fall off after Reich left for Indy - so who was really responsible for that title?
Pederson did some incredible work getting that Eagles team to the playoffs when Wentz went down ('18 and '19, both years after winning the SB with Foles in '17). Those teams were ravaged by injuries.
In total, he was in Philly five years and got to the playoffs three. And posted a 4-2 playoff record.
I think we should give him a serious look.
As I said, intriguing. Pederson may be the best of the veteran coaches, but you gotta dig deep to find out what really happened in Philly. Howie Roseman is a bit of a nut job himself
Byron Leftwich has only been a coach for five seasons but Arians, who I really admire, loves the guy. Yeah, he has Brady, but even in his first season the Bucs offense was #3 in points with Jameis Winston. I'd definitely like to see them consider him.
I think that would be the straw that broke the camels back .
Yeah he did a good job developing Allen, but why is believed to be a good choice for a HC in NY?
I'm not seeing it. His play calling, and frankly entire offensive system is questionable (too reliant on Josh Allen's ability to run/create something out of nothing) for my tastes.
Flores or Moore would be of most interest from this list.
Flores has proven he can win and lead a team effectively.
Moore has been very creative with that offense in Dallas.
I’m also skeptical of Daboll.
Buffalo has talent but doesn’t seem to get over the hump. We’ll see what they are made of this playoffs.
Has he accomplished much sans Josh Allen? Looks like he has had 1 or 2 year OC stints at 3 other NFL clubs.
Flores
Petersen
Moore
The first three have reputations as dicks, but they seem to know how to win. Moore is like this era’s whiz kid a la Sean Peyton. He has the Boys dropping 50 burgers, but not sure if he is experienced enough for the head gig.
Harbaugh is also great but Id be less interested because he seems to wear out his welcome and is a touch older.
He was also a Saban staffer before Buffalo.
Sound familiar? Now obviously that's a good pedigree but a lot of ppl seem to be saying "no more Belichick guys...give me someone like Daboll"
The others are either unproven or come with question marks. The giants have to get it right this time.
It's not a great list to work with, but a GM worth his salt will find a good one.
It's not a great list to work with, but a GM worth his salt will find a good one.
I agree with all of that. It would take a lot to get him. Buying out his contract plus paying him. His demands might be a non starter as well, but he has the track record in college as well as the NFL. We have gone the up and coming offensive coordinator route (mcadoo), we have gone the retread route (shurmur) and we have gone with the young unproven coach from big programs. Its time to get the proven guy in here that can build this team and instantly give it credibility.
Are there some skeleton's in his closet that would eliminate him as a potential candidate?
Are there some skeleton's in his closet that would eliminate him as a potential candidate?
I agree, maybe of Hortiz is the hire, he brings Roman with him?
Carmichael is the OC with the Saints under Sean Payton. He's been there a long time and if I recall correctly was calling the plays during Payton's yearlong suspension. He permanently took over play-calling duties for the Saints in 2019 & had that offense humming. I'd be very happy with PC and I believe he's ready for HC duties.