Rosenblatt: Behind the scenes & who the players want as HC

Besides, Andy Reid runs that offense. His OCs, like Belichick DCs, are glorified clipboard holders. Much rather see them pursue Leftwich.

Just hire the right guy. It's not like they're going to run it by the players before they hire the coach. Ownership and the new GM will decide that.

Combative, stubborn, blows through assistant coaches. I like him, but wonder if they’d prefer an offensive mind kind Daboll.

want, they are 10-23 just was Joe Judge.

tell NJ Advance Media?

What I've seen, players in Miami did like Flores. Maybe not Tua, who reportedly got into locker room arguments with him, but others have.

I also don't see Mara going in that direction.

Bienemy is super sketchy due to his background for one, and two, he isn't the brains in KC. Sort of like Nagy issue in Chicago. Not a thrilling situation overall.

Outside of about 4 guys, the players get zero say. The players? (in my Playoffs?!?! voice).

A new GM is going to look at the players and work hard to chop 3/4's of their heads off.

Something ideal. Daboll or another guy who has called plays and can lead. And get Fangio as DC.

Wont be here in a couple seasons.

In comment 15548222 Greg from LI said:

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Besides, Andy Reid runs that offense. His OCs, like Belichick DCs, are glorified clipboard holders. Much rather see them pursue Leftwich.

Agree.

there may be 5-10 on the current roster who are any good

Head coach should be offensive guy as it is an offensive league. Continuity is assured on that side of the ball when you lose co-ordinators

Makes sense to me

a big chunk of this roster won't be here in 2023.

Look at how that worked out.

all assume Daboll is attached to Schoen because they work together. It's also possible that with them working together that Schoen sees Daboll is not head coach material. It works both ways.

This is a horrendous team and nearly everyone on it will be gone before the next Giants playoff appearance.

Nobody needs their input on the next head coach.

Most of them are not NFL level talents, and a full roster turnover is required, including at the most important positions QB and pass rush.

In comment 15548309 NoPeanutz said:

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In comment 15548222 Greg from LI said: Quote: Besides, Andy Reid runs that offense. His OCs, like Belichick DCs, are glorified clipboard holders. Much rather see them pursue Leftwich. Agree.

Is the "checkered past" the stuff from like 20-30 years ago? Or am I missing something recent?

I'm interested in Bienemy, especially if its a pairing with Poles. The Andy Reid coaching tree is stronger than the Belichick tree for sure.

Leftwich getting 5K yards out of Jameis has my attention too, moreso than what they've done with Brady.

I could care less what these players want for lunch, much less the next coach.

with experience. McaDon't, Shurmur, Judge.....enough

Flores, Harbaugh, Bowles, Peterson. Get someone that has dealt with clock management in a live game before.

may want to ask some of these players who their favorite CFL coach is, might be a better fit for them.

and he was good enough for a Super Bowl win.

I was one of many who felt that way about taking coordinators for great coaches, but sometimes it works out.

In comment 15548394 dannyman3131 said:

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with experience. McaDon't, Shurmur, Judge.....enough Flores, Harbaugh, Bowles, Peterson. Get someone that has dealt with clock management in a live game before.

Shurmur had plenty of experience. Leftwich as a QB has dealt with clock managment even if he has not been a Head Coach. Running 2 and 4 minute offenses you need to be cognizant about that sort of thing.

In comment 15548324 joeinpa said:

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Head coach should be offensive guy as it is an offensive league. Continuity is assured on that side of the ball when you lose co-ordinators Makes sense to me

Good point, never really thought of it that way.

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Coughlin was a PITA. Winning is the whole point

EB and Nagy as the Offensive Coordinator?

In comment 15548510 Simms11 said:

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In comment 15548324 joeinpa said: Quote: Head coach should be offensive guy as it is an offensive league. Continuity is assured on that side of the ball when you lose co-ordinators Makes sense to me Good point, never really thought of it that way.

Defensive guy watches offenses film weekly and knows what is tough to stop and what does and doesn’t work well.

a pretty good sized article that said absolutely nothing.

Wouldn't it make sense that you need to have a great understanding of both sides of the ball to know how to beat a defense or stop an offense? Brian Billick was great OC for the Vikings before being head coach of one of the greatest Defenses of all time and they could barely score. Ditka was a TE before being the HC of the 85 Bears defense. BB was the HC for the record setting offense of the 07 Patriots. That's just off the top of my head.

In comment 15548774 elpeces said:

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Wouldn't it make sense that you need to have a great understanding of both sides of the ball to know how to beat a defense or stop an offense? Brian Billick was great OC for the Vikings before being head coach of one of the greatest Defenses of all time and they could barely score. Ditka was a TE before being the HC of the 85 Bears defense. BB was the HC for the record setting offense of the 07 Patriots. That's just off the top of my head.

The head coach doesn't need to know how to beat a defense or stop an offense. He just needs to know that his OC or DC can.

Head Coach is a people management position. You need to know how to put staff in position to have success. Parcells didn't call defensive and offensive plays.

In comment 15548788 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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In comment 15548774 elpeces said: Quote: Wouldn't it make sense that you need to have a great understanding of both sides of the ball to know how to beat a defense or stop an offense? Brian Billick was great OC for the Vikings before being head coach of one of the greatest Defenses of all time and they could barely score. Ditka was a TE before being the HC of the 85 Bears defense. BB was the HC for the record setting offense of the 07 Patriots. That's just off the top of my head. The head coach doesn't need to know how to beat a defense or stop an offense. He just needs to know that his OC or DC can. Head Coach is a people management position. You need to know how to put staff in position to have success. Parcells didn't call defensive and offensive plays.

Parcels absolutely had say in offense and defense, when the game plans were developed. It is not just a people management position, explain how BB goes through so many assistants and still wins. As does Reid.

Whether or not the new HC comes from an offense or defensive coaching background doesn't mean one side of the ball will necessarily be better than the other. Are BB and Ditka known as people persons :-)?

Flores is cut in similar cloth as Judge from personality and tough-guy approach. Flores is undoubtedly better in-game on Xs and Os from his background, but like Judge's staff supposedly looking to bail, a lot of his players were going to Grier and ownership to complain (Flores played favorites).