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Why Did the Giants Raise the White Flag Over Last 6 Games?

M.S. : 1/12/2022 9:31 am

Seems like many would point to Joe Judge first and foremost. I do not, and that is not a defense of our former Head Coach.

IMO, the players themselves were responsible for the utter collapse because they knew they were spinning their wheels in a lost cause with Glennon and Fromm at QB. And, so, their energy dropped as imperceptible business decisions were made out on the field. Time and time again.

And there's something else about Joe Judge down the stretch run into oblivion. With the pathetic O-Line the Giants trotted out there, not even a clone of Bill Belichick and Vince Lombardi would have done shit with this team. Perhaps they would not have lost in such embarrassing fashion, but they would have lost just the same.

The new GM and Head Coach will have their work cut out for them. They will need to -- not only assess the "talent" on this team -- but also figure out who has the heart and the passion to play the game for 60 minutes over an entire season.
Tanked  
mattlawson : 1/12/2022 9:40 am : link
With incompetence
the business decisions were quite perceptible.  
japanhead : 1/12/2022 9:48 am : link
also, so tired of the OL excuse.
The stark reality  
Daniel in MI : 1/12/2022 9:50 am : link
Of what we trotted onto the field is
- 1 out of 5 offensive linemen starting level in the nfl. Think about that alone.
- 0 QBs starting level, and 1 barely a few weeks with the team w/ 0 pro starts
- 1 RB coming off major surgery set back by another injury, and a backup
- WRs that were never healthy, never good, and/or never on the field together
- A serviceable TE and an inconsistent tweener really good at neither core skill

Could a better coach have made them look better? Perhaps. But the love child of Lombardi and BB wasn’t going to make them good. Especially against good front 7s.

I’m not upset about JJ’s firing. I’m fine with it. But anyone saying that’s NFL calibre O personnel is being disingenuous.
RE: the business decisions were quite perceptible.  
Dinger : 1/12/2022 9:53 am : link
In comment 15548363 japanhead said:
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also, so tired of the OL excuse.


JH do you mean some BBIers(including me) who always make te argument that the OL sucks and we shouldn't or are you saying sick of actually having a sucky OL?
What if they didn't quit?  
Ron Johnson : 1/12/2022 9:54 am : link
What if that's what trying looks like?

With this roster we're probably 4 years from competing for the playoffs. So 2 maybe 3 head coaches from now.
they didn't raise a white flag  
GiantNatty : 1/12/2022 9:59 am : link
they had flag football players trying to play in the pros.
Sure, players have to share some, if not most  
Section331 : 1/12/2022 10:17 am : link
of the blame, but Judge isn't blameless either. He couldn't figure out a way to turn the tide. He couldn't scheme up ways to make Glennon more effective, and yes, Glennon sucks, but who pushed for his signing.

This is all water under the bridge anyway. Judge is gone, and hopefully most of the players from this shitty excuse of a roster are gone soon too.
RE: What if they didn't quit?  
Beezer : 1/12/2022 10:20 am : link
In comment 15548381 Ron Johnson said:
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What if that's what trying looks like?

With this roster we're probably 4 years from competing for the playoffs. So 2 maybe 3 head coaches from now.


I don't know how folks can say 4 years ... when we see all over the league other teams rebounding with a few strong drafts and some smart FA signings. Sure, it COULD be 4 years, but I'm so gullible when it comes to this team that I want to believe the Giants could compete for the division in 2023 ... with the right hires and a good path.
I think with the additions this offseason  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/12/2022 11:23 am : link
having little impact and the injuries on top if it Judge felt like he was taking a JV team to play against the varsity and he did not know how to handle it and it caused him to short-circuit upstairs.
Did the players audible  
Giants73 : 1/12/2022 11:24 am : link
To a double QB sneak?
Don't Think Players Quit,  
clatterbuck : 1/12/2022 12:21 pm : link
there just weren't enough NFL caliber players on the field, especially on offense. With the exception of Thomas, the OL, Glennon, poor Jake Fromm, practice squad WRs, they just weren't good enough. Defense played hard and well enough to win a few more games, but c'mon, one of the biggest indictments of Gettleman is the roster he assembled.
Nothing that wrong with Jones Neck -- He got a vacation  
Debaser : 1/12/2022 12:46 pm : link
SO the rest of the team thought they should get one too.

RE: Don't Think Players Quit,  
M.S. : 1/12/2022 1:45 pm : link
In comment 15548860 clatterbuck said:
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there just weren't enough NFL caliber players on the field, especially on offense. With the exception of Thomas, the OL, Glennon, poor Jake Fromm, practice squad WRs, they just weren't good enough. Defense played hard and well enough to win a few more games, but c'mon, one of the biggest indictments of Gettleman is the roster he assembled.

I believe the defense usually played well in first half (save last 2 minutes) and then ran up the white flag in second half. And Kenny Golladay sure looked like he dogged it on that long pass down the right sideline from Jake Fromm. Golladay didn't really reach for the ball, and he didn't lay-out and he just looked like someone already checked out.
RE: RE: What if they didn't quit?  
Ron Johnson : 1/12/2022 3:21 pm : link
In comment 15548479 Beezer said:
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In comment 15548381 Ron Johnson said:


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What if that's what trying looks like?

With this roster we're probably 4 years from competing for the playoffs. So 2 maybe 3 head coaches from now.



I don't know how folks can say 4 years ... when we see all over the league other teams rebounding with a few strong drafts and some smart FA signings. Sure, it COULD be 4 years, but I'm so gullible when it comes to this team that I want to believe the Giants could compete for the division in 2023 ... with the right hires and a good path.


a few strong drafts is at least 3 drafts. .... we aren't so far apart.
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