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jeff57 : 1/12/2022 10:06 am
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RE: RE: More from Ralph:  
nygiants16 : 1/12/2022 1:34 pm : link
In comment 15549122 Anakim said:
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In comment 15549104 ManningLobsItBurressAlone said:


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John Mara downplayed the influence of his brother, Chris Mara, in the organization, saying his only role is to help with the evaluation of college prospects.






Ummm. So then why is Chris Mara involved in the GM interviews?


because he is part of ownership
Ummmmmmm.  
Anakim : 1/12/2022 1:34 pm : link
Zack Rosenblatt
@ZackBlatt

John Mara on why he didn’t fire Dave Gettleman before the end of the season and let him retire instead:

"I didn’t see any need to do that."
RE: I guess the Giants saw what happened in Chicago yesterday  
islander1 : 1/12/2022 1:34 pm : link
In comment 15549134 MartyNJ1969 said:
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and they are not going to allow live stream


What happened?
yep  
jvm52106 : 1/12/2022 1:34 pm : link

Ralph Vacchiano
@RVacchianoSNY
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As for whether he needs to show more patience with his GMs and head coaches this time around, John Mara said "I very badly wanted to do that this year, but I just didn’t see any end in sight."
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/12/2022 1:35 pm : link

Pat Leonard

@PLeonardNYDN
Replying to @PLeonardNYDN

John Mara sounds like someone who doesn't intend to make meaningful change with the organization.

He essentially ignores/dodges two questions about allowing GM Dave Gettleman to "retire."

All media was allowed one question, no follow-ups.

Steve Tisch not part of the call.
RE: RE: RE: More from Ralph:  
Anakim : 1/12/2022 1:35 pm : link
In comment 15549140 Jimmy Googs said:
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In comment 15549122 Anakim said:


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In comment 15549104 ManningLobsItBurressAlone said:


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John Mara downplayed the influence of his brother, Chris Mara, in the organization, saying his only role is to help with the evaluation of college prospects.






Ummm. So then why is Chris Mara involved in the GM interviews?



probably the whole owner thing...



That seems to be a conflict of interests to me...
More from Ralph:  
ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 1/12/2022 1:35 pm : link
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John Mara understands that the franchise instability will be a concern for GM and head coach candidates with the Giants.

"I certainly think it will be a factor that some of these candidates will consider," he said. "That’s something we’ll have to overcome in these interviews."

As for whether he needs to show more patience with his GMs and head coaches this time around, John Mara said "I very badly wanted to do that this year, but I just didn’t see any end in sight."
RE: Alrighty then...  
christian : 1/12/2022 1:35 pm : link
In comment 15549137 Anakim said:
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Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy

John Mara says Chris Mara is in the interviews because he is part of ownership but Steve Tisch and John will make final decision #Giants


Lol why aren’t Frank Mara and Jon Tisch there too?
RE: Yep- This sums up all of us:  
NoGainDayne : 1/12/2022 1:35 pm : link
In comment 15549139 jvm52106 said:
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KimberlEY A. Martin
@ByKimberleyA
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Q: Is this the lowest moment you’ve had being with the #NYG?

John Mara: “Honestly, I would have to say yes. I kept thinking during the season we had hit rock bottom — and each week, it got worse.”


I actually really like this answer. It's no bull shit, no spin. Good for him
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/12/2022 1:36 pm : link

Dan Salomone @Dan_Salomone

John Mara said the GM will lead the search for head coach. In terms of DJ or Saquon or any other player, that will be between the GM and head coach.
this..  
DCPollaro : 1/12/2022 1:36 pm : link
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Pat Leonard
@PLeonardNYDN
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John Mara sounds like someone who doesn't intend to make meaningful change with the organization.

He essentially ignores/dodges two questions about allowing GM Dave Gettleman to "retire."

All media was allowed one question, no follow-ups.

Steve Tisch not part of the call.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/12/2022 1:36 pm : link

GiantsWFAN @giantswfan

#Giants #JohnMara - "the GM will lead the search for the head coach but those decisions are always subject to final approval from ownership"
Media members  
ajr2456 : 1/12/2022 1:36 pm : link
Allowed one question each lolol. What a fucking coward.
RE: RE: Yep- This sums up all of us:  
Mike from SI : 1/12/2022 1:36 pm : link
In comment 15549154 NoGainDayne said:
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In comment 15549139 jvm52106 said:


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KimberlEY A. Martin
@ByKimberleyA
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Q: Is this the lowest moment you’ve had being with the #NYG?

John Mara: “Honestly, I would have to say yes. I kept thinking during the season we had hit rock bottom — and each week, it got worse.”



I actually really like this answer. It's no bull shit, no spin. Good for him


It's also the truth that we all experienced as fans.
Booooooooooooooooooooooooo  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 1/12/2022 1:37 pm : link
What a terrible look for the Giants after starting on the right track.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/12/2022 1:37 pm : link

Pat Leonard

@PLeonardNYDN
Replying to @PLeonardNYDN

John Mara vehemently pushes back against his family as the problem. Says Chris Mara has "no authority," but grants he has personnel input and was part of today's first GM interview.
Man...Mara needs to  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/12/2022 1:37 pm : link
toughen up.
Mara just confirmed with his statements the two QB sneaks  
MartyNJ1969 : 1/12/2022 1:38 pm : link
were worse then the 1978 fumble
.  
ajr2456 : 1/12/2022 1:38 pm : link
John Mara blamed the media for creative a narrative that his family has more football influence than it should and is part of the problem
RE: ...  
Anakim : 1/12/2022 1:38 pm : link
In comment 15549166 Eric from BBI said:
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Pat Leonard

@PLeonardNYDN
Replying to @PLeonardNYDN

John Mara vehemently pushes back against his family as the problem. Says Chris Mara has "no authority," but grants he has personnel input and was part of today's first GM interview.


I don't know if that's true or not, but I can buy that. I can see him having persuasive authority, but to what extent I'm not sure.
RE: RE: RE: Yep- This sums up all of us:  
jvm52106 : 1/12/2022 1:39 pm : link
In comment 15549163 Mike from SI said:
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In comment 15549154 NoGainDayne said:


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In comment 15549139 jvm52106 said:


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KimberlEY A. Martin
@ByKimberleyA
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Q: Is this the lowest moment you’ve had being with the #NYG?

John Mara: “Honestly, I would have to say yes. I kept thinking during the season we had hit rock bottom — and each week, it got worse.”



I actually really like this answer. It's no bull shit, no spin. Good for him



It's also the truth that we all experienced as fans.


Mara gets nailed here no matter which way he goes but, you can clearly see he wanted things to work with Judge. I think he even knew that DG was a big problem (but once season started and his contract was coming up, they just had to ride that out) but then Judge started doing his BS lectures about the culture he is creating (ie totally ignoring the ineptitude on the field) and his words became more a shot at others in the past and other teams in the league and that just wasn't going to fly.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/12/2022 1:39 pm : link

Dan Duggan

@DDuggan21

A lot of what John Mara said today felt familiar to 2018 and 2020. There's cause for hope due to this expanded search for a GM, but ownership is 0-for-4 on GM/HC hires since 2015. As Mara said, he hasn't given any reason to believe he'll get it right this time.
RE: RE: ...  
nygiants16 : 1/12/2022 1:40 pm : link
In comment 15549174 Anakim said:
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In comment 15549166 Eric from BBI said:


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Pat Leonard

@PLeonardNYDN
Replying to @PLeonardNYDN

John Mara vehemently pushes back against his family as the problem. Says Chris Mara has "no authority," but grants he has personnel input and was part of today's first GM interview.



I don't know if that's true or not, but I can buy that. I can see him having persuasive authority, but to what extent I'm not sure.


Leonard is a turd

Go read the other Beats, Mara said Chris gives his evaluations on college players but has no say or decision making powers, its up to thr GM and Coach
FYI  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/12/2022 1:40 pm : link
I will post the transcript later today.
Not good enough John Marra!!!!  
Chris L. : 1/12/2022 1:40 pm : link
you have acknowledged that Chris Marra spends most of his time on player evaluations. Why would he do that if they didn't think he would have some input??? Confirms everything a bunch of us were worried about. You think one of the new potential GM candidates wants to hear that??? The new GM needs to have final say with input from the coach the GM has selected. John needs to get Chris the heck out of the player personnel department. If he has no final say...as John Marra says why is he spending so much time on player evaluations????? This is the Marras wanting to play with their toy. This part has to get fixed as well. In fact, long term it is the most important part to get fixed because if it is not fixed who the GM is won't matter we will be stuck with more crappy drafts, rinse, repeat.
RE: ...  
jvm52106 : 1/12/2022 1:42 pm : link
In comment 15549177 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Duggan

@DDuggan21

A lot of what John Mara said today felt familiar to 2018 and 2020. There's cause for hope due to this expanded search for a GM, but ownership is 0-for-4 on GM/HC hires since 2015. As Mara said, he hasn't given any reason to believe he'll get it right this time.


No offense that shit means nothing. They hired DG and he basically oversaw the fall the last 5 years. The Giants have cleared the decks and we are moving forward.

I'm not a fan of Chris Mara  
drake88 : 1/12/2022 1:42 pm : link
like most of us but at this point it comes down to John and Tisch making one GOOD decision. Just hire the right GM and everything from the coach to scouting to making the right decisions on Jones/Barkely will follow.

Just make ONE FUCKING GOOD gm hire and we are golden.
nygiants16  
TommytheElephant : 1/12/2022 1:42 pm : link
thats how I feel as well
 
christian : 1/12/2022 1:42 pm : link
Come on John.

There are other Maras and Tisches in leadership. Frank Mara is a VP of Community Relations, Jon Tisch is treasurer.

The reason these two aren’t involved in the interviews is because they aren’t involved in football.

Chris is there because he’s involved in football.
RE: RE: I guess the Giants saw what happened in Chicago yesterday  
santacruzom : 1/12/2022 1:43 pm : link
In comment 15549144 islander1 said:
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In comment 15549134 MartyNJ1969 said:


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and they are not going to allow live stream



What happened?


I've been wondering that myself, so I started watching it. Seems like it begins to get uncomfortable at the 9:10 mark.
Bears end of season press conference - ( New Window )
RE: FYI  
The_Boss : 1/12/2022 1:44 pm : link
In comment 15549179 Eric from BBI said:
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I will post the transcript later today.


After the NYG send you over what to redact/omit/edit out?

RE: Alrighty then...  
AdamBrag : 1/12/2022 1:44 pm : link
In comment 15549137 Anakim said:
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Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy

John Mara says Chris Mara is in the interviews because he is part of ownership but Steve Tisch and John will make final decision #Giants


This does not seem ideal.
Hilarious how everyone spends...  
Chris in Philly : 1/12/2022 1:45 pm : link
two years trashing Pat Leonard but now he's Bob Woodward to the same people...
He's saying what most want to hear  
GiantGrit : 1/12/2022 1:46 pm : link
But many are still going to complain.

At the end of the day I root for the Giants, John Mara has undoubtedly made some terrible decisions but I have no personal disdain for the guy.

I don't need more questions to continually rehash where we're at b/c we all know where the Giants are. Rock bottom.

As Cowherd said today, just let go of the past (good & bad) and focus on the future.

Today, 1/12, I am excited for the future. But also not naïve, the personnel department needs to be overhauled. Words are words, actions are actions. Hire a qualified GM and let him mold football ops.

...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/12/2022 1:46 pm : link
Jordan Raanan

@JordanRaanan

The one thing that does provide optimism is that John Mara all but admitted the last GM search was, shall I say, flawed. He used the worked "rushed." Giants seem intent on having a more extensive process this time around. "We're going to try not to make that mistake," he said.
RE: RE: RE: RE: More from Ralph:  
Jimmy Googs : 1/12/2022 1:46 pm : link
In comment 15549150 Anakim said:
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In comment 15549140 Jimmy Googs said:


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In comment 15549122 Anakim said:


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In comment 15549104 ManningLobsItBurressAlone said:


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John Mara downplayed the influence of his brother, Chris Mara, in the organization, saying his only role is to help with the evaluation of college prospects.






Ummm. So then why is Chris Mara involved in the GM interviews?



probably the whole owner thing...




That seems to be a conflict of interests to me...


Well, it's not to me. Over the last two days John Mara has made it perfectly clear as to:

1) what his new GM will be responsible for
2) who is making the player decisions
3) what Chris Mara does in the office

There is no issue here other than if you want to call John a flat out liar and back it up with proof.
I don’t care about seeing it live.  
Dave on the UWS : 1/12/2022 1:46 pm : link
I just want the media to ask legit questions. John is essentially a good guy but he needs to be pressed on the mistakes and what they will do differently.
RE: RE: RE: ...  
Anakim : 1/12/2022 1:47 pm : link
In comment 15549178 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 15549174 Anakim said:


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In comment 15549166 Eric from BBI said:


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Pat Leonard

@PLeonardNYDN
Replying to @PLeonardNYDN

John Mara vehemently pushes back against his family as the problem. Says Chris Mara has "no authority," but grants he has personnel input and was part of today's first GM interview.



I don't know if that's true or not, but I can buy that. I can see him having persuasive authority, but to what extent I'm not sure.



Leonard is a turd

Go read the other Beats, Mara said Chris gives his evaluations on college players but has no say or decision making powers, its up to thr GM and Coach


I wrote this in the other thread, but that seems to be a conflict of interests unless Chris really will yield to the GM. I mean he evaluates college players and has opinions on who to draft...but it'll ultimately be up to the GM...who Chris Mara will have a say (maybe not a strong say, but a say) in who gets that job.
Chris Mara  
Les in TO : 1/12/2022 1:47 pm : link
Oh so he’s responsible for evaluating college prospects? How has that gone since he’s stepped into the role? Do you think he’s proven he deserves to keep that job?
RE: Not good enough John Marra!!!!  
nygiants16 : 1/12/2022 1:48 pm : link
In comment 15549180 Chris L. said:
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you have acknowledged that Chris Marra spends most of his time on player evaluations. Why would he do that if they didn't think he would have some input??? Confirms everything a bunch of us were worried about. You think one of the new potential GM candidates wants to hear that??? The new GM needs to have final say with input from the coach the GM has selected. John needs to get Chris the heck out of the player personnel department. If he has no final say...as John Marra says why is he spending so much time on player evaluations????? This is the Marras wanting to play with their toy. This part has to get fixed as well. In fact, long term it is the most important part to get fixed because if it is not fixed who the GM is won't matter we will be stuck with more crappy drafts, rinse, repeat.


becaise that is his job, if the guy wasmt named Mara you would have no idea who it is..He gives the evaluations on certain players, if a GM or coach is making the decision jist off of those evals they shouldnt be GM..

the GM is supposed to take input from a bunch of people but in the end the decision is up to him
RE: RE: Alrighty then...  
Jimmy Googs : 1/12/2022 1:48 pm : link
In comment 15549152 christian said:
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In comment 15549137 Anakim said:


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Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy

John Mara says Chris Mara is in the interviews because he is part of ownership but Steve Tisch and John will make final decision #Giants



Lol why aren’t Frank Mara and Jon Tisch there too?


Because it's not a Senate Oversight Committee hearing with 25+ people...its an interview.
RE: ...  
Anakim : 1/12/2022 1:49 pm : link
In comment 15549209 Eric from BBI said:
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Jordan Raanan

@JordanRaanan

The one thing that does provide optimism is that John Mara all but admitted the last GM search was, shall I say, flawed. He used the worked "rushed." Giants seem intent on having a more extensive process this time around. "We're going to try not to make that mistake," he said.


I don't recall it even being that rushed. It seemed more like going through the motions and coming to an inevitable and telegraphed conclusion.
RE: Not good enough John Marra!!!!  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/12/2022 1:49 pm : link
In comment 15549180 Chris L. said:
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you have acknowledged that Chris Marra spends most of his time on player evaluations. Why would he do that if they didn't think he would have some input??? Confirms everything a bunch of us were worried about. You think one of the new potential GM candidates wants to hear that??? The new GM needs to have final say with input from the coach the GM has selected. John needs to get Chris the heck out of the player personnel department. If he has no final say...as John Marra says why is he spending so much time on player evaluations????? This is the Marras wanting to play with their toy. This part has to get fixed as well. In fact, long term it is the most important part to get fixed because if it is not fixed who the GM is won't matter we will be stuck with more crappy drafts, rinse, repeat.

What kind of Giants fan doesn't know how to spell "Mara"?
RE: He's saying what most want to hear  
HomerJones45 : 1/12/2022 1:50 pm : link
In comment 15549208 GiantGrit said:
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But many are still going to complain.

At the end of the day I root for the Giants, John Mara has undoubtedly made some terrible decisions but I have no personal disdain for the guy.

I don't need more questions to continually rehash where we're at b/c we all know where the Giants are. Rock bottom.

As Cowherd said today, just let go of the past (good & bad) and focus on the future.

Today, 1/12, I am excited for the future. But also not naïve, the personnel department needs to be overhauled. Words are words, actions are actions. Hire a qualified GM and let him mold football ops.
Good post
You have no idea  
nygiants16 : 1/12/2022 1:51 pm : link
if Gettleman and Judge took Chris Maras advice or went against it, you have zero idea but of course it is Chris Maras fault..

RE: RE: Not good enough John Marra!!!!  
Jimmy Googs : 1/12/2022 1:53 pm : link
In comment 15549227 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 15549180 Chris L. said:


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you have acknowledged that Chris Marra spends most of his time on player evaluations. Why would he do that if they didn't think he would have some input??? Confirms everything a bunch of us were worried about. You think one of the new potential GM candidates wants to hear that??? The new GM needs to have final say with input from the coach the GM has selected. John needs to get Chris the heck out of the player personnel department. If he has no final say...as John Marra says why is he spending so much time on player evaluations????? This is the Marras wanting to play with their toy. This part has to get fixed as well. In fact, long term it is the most important part to get fixed because if it is not fixed who the GM is won't matter we will be stuck with more crappy drafts, rinse, repeat.


What kind of Giants fan doesn't know how to spell "Mara"?


the morron kind...
RE: You have no idea  
US1 Giants : 1/12/2022 1:54 pm : link
In comment 15549235 nygiants16 said:
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if Gettleman and Judge took Chris Maras advice or went against it, you have zero idea but of course it is Chris Maras fault..


The brother of the boss and a part-owner would carry a lot of weight even if he does not know anything about players.
RE: You have no idea  
Anakim : 1/12/2022 1:55 pm : link
In comment 15549235 nygiants16 said:
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if Gettleman and Judge took Chris Maras advice or went against it, you have zero idea but of course it is Chris Maras fault..


And you have no idea either. That's the problem. All we know is that Chris Mara is involved in college scouting. To what extent, none of us know. Is it a hobby? Is it a FT job? How much of a say does he have? How strongly does he feel about certain draft philosophies or players?
RE: RE: RE: Alrighty then...  
christian : 1/12/2022 1:56 pm : link
In comment 15549221 Jimmy Googs said:
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Lol why aren’t Frank Mara and Jon Tisch there too?

Because it's not a Senate Oversight Committee hearing with 25+ people...its an interview.


I actually think it’s great Chris is there. He’s an owner and he advises on college prospects. He’s involved tangentially in football. John and Steve value his opinion.

The other owners are not, so they are not involved.

WTF is that so hard for Mara to say?
What kind of a moron doesn't know how to spell moron?  
ij_reilly : 1/12/2022 1:56 pm : link
The morron kind.
;)
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