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Colin Cowherd's message to Giants after Joe Judge firing

shadow_spinner0 : 1/12/2022 5:54 pm
"It's time for the Giants to let go of the past, and to stop talking about yesterday. No more reminiscing on the days of Eli Manning. It's time to focus on rebuilding and elevating Daniel Jones."
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Is reminiscing about the days of Eli Manning really a thing?  
81_Great_Dane : 1/12/2022 5:58 pm : link
They honored the teams and stars from that era, like any team would. Is that what the team guys talk about when they talk to Cowherd and the media?

I don't even disagree with him. I'm just wondering who and what he is talking about.
Yea seems like you're giving advice to..  
bLiTz 2k : 1/12/2022 6:04 pm : link
A gambling addict by stop eating red meat...
The reminiscing comment may be a reach  
j_rud : 1/12/2022 6:13 pm : link
but the comments about reaching for the familiar and successful past is an accurate description of this organization. He so makes a convincing point about HCs with an offensive background/nailing the OC hire.

I don't necessarily think Jones can be elevated. I also don't necessarily think rebuilding the OL guarantees using the 5th and 7th pick on linemen either.
He was correct when he said they are a historically great  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/12/2022 6:18 pm : link
franchise. He could have just simple added, "It used to be uncomfortable to play the Giants. They hit big plays. They ran the ball. They had waves of elite pass rushers. The were Physical. Fast. Powerful. Well coached." Perhaps some of the past is not so bad.

Instead he highlights offensive coaches who have to elevate DJ. Talks about the trend of recent "great HC's" hires of which none have closed the deal except the old guard Arians. Oh he leaves out BB because it does not fit his segment.
When I reminisce about great Giants teams,  
Bill in UT : 1/12/2022 6:33 pm : link
it's not about the Manning era, it's about the Parcells era. When the Giants dominated the regular season and were SB favorites
Cowherd and the like  
Gman11 : 1/12/2022 6:34 pm : link
A blowhard with a microphone.
RE: When I reminisce about great Giants teams,  
bw in dc : 1/12/2022 6:37 pm : link
In comment 15549969 Bill in UT said:
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it's not about the Manning era, it's about the Parcells era. When the Giants dominated the regular season and were SB favorites


Exactly. In the SB era, those were the only six years - 85-90 - when the organization was truly great.

Other than that period, this has not been a great franchise like the Pats, Pack, Steelers, 49ers.
RE: RE: When I reminisce about great Giants teams,  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/12/2022 6:47 pm : link
In comment 15549989 bw in dc said:
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In comment 15549969 Bill in UT said:


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it's not about the Manning era, it's about the Parcells era. When the Giants dominated the regular season and were SB favorites



Exactly. In the SB era, those were the only six years - 85-90 - when the organization was truly great.

Other than that period, this has not been a great franchise like the Pats, Pack, Steelers, 49ers.


Interesting, another hot take from you. All those franchises have great respect for the Giants and they sent them all home for the offseason. Multiple times. I'll gladly debate the Giants historical place with the Steelers (unfortunately no relevant games in a big spot) who I also think is a great franchise.
I am bent by my ideal of the great Giant teams by a dominating defense  
plato : 1/12/2022 7:13 pm : link
with Robustelli and Livingston at DE, Rosy grier and Modjuliewski (?) at DT. Linebackers with Huff in the middle and a great secondary. This defense was scary and the offense with Rosy Brown at tackle, great TE’s, Frank Gifford, Webster, and others running the ball and my favorite qb of Charlie Conerly followed by YA Tittle could control the game and score when it had too. Those were the years when the chant of “Defense” rocked the Polo grounds and Yankee stadium and SI ran a cover story on the lb’ers “Wanda, Mike, and Sarah”. These great years were followed by the “dark ages” and ended when the greatest (defensive) player in NFL history roamed the wintry fields like the great horse of the apocalypse wearing # 56 in giant blue.

after that all teams paled by comparison. So remember the Giant legend spreads from Marshall Goldberg and Steve Owen forward. It takes a lot of any other franchises to compete with that. None can.
RE: RE: RE: When I reminisce about great Giants teams,  
bw in dc : 1/12/2022 7:28 pm : link
In comment 15550013 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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Exactly. In the SB era, those were the only six years - 85-90 - when the organization was truly great.

Other than that period, this has not been a great franchise like the Pats, Pack, Steelers, 49ers.



Interesting, another hot take from you. All those franchises have great respect for the Giants and they sent them all home for the offseason. Multiple times. I'll gladly debate the Giants historical place with the Steelers (unfortunately no relevant games in a big spot) who I also think is a great franchise.


It's an accurate take, not hot.

Where am I incorrect? In the SB era, that span from '85-'90 was when we were most feared. Sharing that space with San Fran and WFT at the time. The NFC was a powerhouse.

We have not been that dominant since. Never.
RE: Yea seems like you're giving advice to..  
eli4life : 1/12/2022 7:30 pm : link
In comment 15549918 bLiTz 2k said:
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A gambling addict by stop eating red meat...


That’s funny I’m gonna have to use that lol
Colin Cowherd  
bwitz : 1/12/2022 7:37 pm : link
As Ned Flanders so eloquently put it, “the answer to a question No-One Asked!”

Fuck that hack.
Jones likely has no place on what a rebuilt NYG look like  
The_Boss : 1/12/2022 7:47 pm : link
That’s Cowherd’s first fallacy.
RE: RE: RE: RE: When I reminisce about great Giants teams,  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/12/2022 7:49 pm : link
In comment 15550121 bw in dc said:
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In comment 15550013 Lines of Scrimmage said:


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Exactly. In the SB era, those were the only six years - 85-90 - when the organization was truly great.

Other than that period, this has not been a great franchise like the Pats, Pack, Steelers, 49ers.



Interesting, another hot take from you. All those franchises have great respect for the Giants and they sent them all home for the offseason. Multiple times. I'll gladly debate the Giants historical place with the Steelers (unfortunately no relevant games in a big spot) who I also think is a great franchise.



It's an accurate take, not hot.

Where am I incorrect? In the SB era, that span from '85-'90 was when we were most feared. Sharing that space with San Fran and WFT at the time. The NFC was a powerhouse.

We have not been that dominant since. Never.


They have been to three Super Bowls and won two since. If that is nothing so be it but it just seems like you look for anything to take a shot of the franchise. If you take out the last few years which most will agree has been terrible this is one of the top franchises since the early 80's. As I said again, the Giants way sent three of those franchises home (you mention) for the offseason six times over those years. One of them has been using many of the same principles he learned while with the franchise you seem to enjoy taking continued shots at. Look closely at how Bill builds his teams. Even added another drop back QB. The only dominant franchise has been the Patriots the last twenty years. Even with the dismal last seven years the Giants match high end success (SB) of any team you mention other than the Packers. The truth is the truth.
Plato  
nrhs50 : 1/12/2022 7:51 pm : link
Excellent post.

By the way, it was Dick Modzelewski. That defense was great. Allie Sherman traded away Modzelewski for Bobby Crespino, a 3rd string tight end. As the same time, he traded Sam Huff for Dickie James a punt returner and a tackle (Bobby Stintuyla ??). Anyway, neither one panned out. Allie ("Gooodbye Allie" as we chanted) was an offensive coach and hated the defense. He trades "Little Mo" and Huff for nothing and the team collapses. That was the start of 17 years of horrible Giant football.

BTW, Modzelewski was traded to Baltimore, started on the d-line and won the NFL championship the very next year. I can still remember the TV from the locker room after the game. Blanton Collier (owner) hugged "Little Mo" and said, "We couldn't have done it without you".

With complete disclosure, I went to the University of Maryland and knew "Little Mo" and Dick Nolan also on those great NY Giant teams of the early sixties.


meant  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/12/2022 7:55 pm : link
other than the Patriots, not Packers.
nrhs50  
nrhs50 : 1/12/2022 8:08 pm : link
Correction Blanton Collier was the coach (not owner) of the Cleveland Browns not the Colts. And "Little Mo" played for the Browns. Seems like I got the teams reversed. Should have googled before I opened my mouth.
He's right  
Scooter185 : 1/12/2022 8:49 pm : link
About looking forward, he's wrong about Jones
Cowherd  
Sammo85 : 1/12/2022 9:07 pm : link
had spent the last couple seasons making fun of the Giants and criticizing them for over drafting Jones. Typical shift and contrarian nonsense from talking head.
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