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| 30. NEW YORK GIANTS (DOWN 2) LT Andrew Thomas | 78.4 LG Matt Skura | 50.8 C Billy Price | 62.3 RG Will Hernandez | 55.9 RT Nate Solder | 60.2 Things weren’t just bad on the offensive line for the Giants (left tackle Andrew Thomas had more receiving touchdowns than Kenny Golladay and Kadarius Toney — their big-money free agent and first-round rookie — combined), but it certainly started there. Thomas was the best-graded player on the line, and when he missed time, things were near disastrous. He allowed 19 pressures across 517 pass-blocking snaps. His development in Year 2 was a massive positive, but he might be the only member of the line who has a clear future going forward. |
God I hate those fucks...
Corey Linsley and Matt Feiler were massive upgrades in free agency, leaving the team with just a weak link at right tackle once Bryan Bulaga went down 45 snaps into the season.
I wanted to draft Slater and thought a much better use of LW's or KG's money was to invest in the OL and buy Linsley.
JFC.
Startling to say the least.
You should try watching other teams. OLs are a problem all around the league.
Do you think it really matters much after the rankings of the top 25 or so are completed?
#26 vs #32 vs #132...who cares, they stink...
Every team with a bad OL says they have the worst OL. Giants fan say this, go to a Dolphins forum and I'm sure a bunch of their fans are saying "WE HAVE THE WORST OL EVER". Ours is bad yes but there are other equally as bad around the league.
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There is no way that another team's OL performed worse than ours over the course of the entire year. It was the worst performance I have seen in 50+ years.
Do you think it really matters much after the rankings of the top 25 or so are completed?
#26 vs #32 vs #132...who cares, they stink...
it's a part of an argument to excuse Jones' poor performance. If the Giants are uniquely bad they can say Jones never had a chance. But if there are lines that are as bad or worse, like Miami, and the QB performed pretty well, like Tua, that argument goes away.
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There is no way that another team's OL performed worse than ours over the course of the entire year. It was the worst performance I have seen in 50+ years.
You should try watching other teams. OLs are a problem all around the league.
So true.
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In comment 15550130 BigBlueNH said:
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There is no way that another team's OL performed worse than ours over the course of the entire year. It was the worst performance I have seen in 50+ years.
Do you think it really matters much after the rankings of the top 25 or so are completed?
#26 vs #32 vs #132...who cares, they stink...
it's a part of an argument to excuse Jones' poor performance. If the Giants are uniquely bad they can say Jones never had a chance. But if there are lines that are as bad or worse, like Miami, and the QB performed pretty well, like Tua, that argument goes away.
Yeah, i played those games with posters hanging onto Eli too long too.
Bottom line though is Jones is pretty clueless as a QB and the OL needs a lot of improvement...
God I hate those fucks...
The Eagles can coach up OL, that’s for sure. Meanwhile, no one on the Giants improved (outside of Thomas and Gates, I suppose).
You can’t tell me none of the guys they brought in couldn’t be coached up by the right coach. Giants just didn’t have it.
And they had running backs and tight ends who could block a little.
Yet we have some posters on here suggesting the OL wasn't that bad.
Then you have some posters who don't understand stats and look at them in a vacuum and then blast PFF as if they are some type of expert.
Then you have some posters that don't understand the difference between a complete set of 11 players on offense vs just a couple. For example two straight years of pathetic OL play and pathetic receivers (either they suck or are hurt a lot) plus shitty Tight Ends plus primarily playing with backup RB's plus a subpar QB will not equate to the Bengals or Chargers by comparing their OLINes to the Giants only.
And then you have others that think the NFL is only a 1 player sport and mostly only say it's all on the QB.
To the more reasonable fans this ranking here is just more evidence that the giants need to push heavy for an OLINE in the draft. And drafting in round 5-7 is NOT pushing for help. It's "praying." Let's stop the praying.
Going forward I still think you need to draft several OL in the first 3 rounds.Don't sleep on the center position either as I just hope Gates will be able to recover enough to walk without a noticeable limp the rest of his life.
I just hope Neal falls to us at number 5 and we trade down to the mid teens pick up draft choices and draft Linderbaum. Forget his size this kid can play the center position at a high level in the NFL.
Don't forget Andrew Thomas was out injured for a good amount of time
I don't care what the numbers are from PFF. The OL seemed worse this year than last.
I’m assuming just not easy to block after hiking the ball?
Maybe the value of a top Center is substantial?
God I hate those fucks...
Eagles have been a good performing franchise for two decades now and a big part of it is there ability to identify OL talent with really good coaching. The left tackle I think is a UDFA. Kelce was a 6th rounder. So a mix of high and very low draft picks but they commit to it every year. Kelly left the Eagles in good shape getting Kelce, Johnson and getting the OL coach from Saban's staff.
Did you watch any Raiders games...