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The Obsession With Chris Mara

clatterbuck : 1/12/2022 7:38 pm
is both absurd and really tiresome. Does someone have any information on what decisions he's made, what player(s) he demanded be signed or drafted? If he has pressured scouts to upgrade or downgrade a player evaluation? We get it, a lot of fans don't like the fact he has a job in the organization. It's not ideal and it may be a distraction. But the constant, carping about what he does or doesn't do is silly, unsubstantiated bushwa. Is Chris Mara responsible for the sorry state of the franchise? Did he make the decision to sign Glenn instead of McCoy? Did he destroy the O-line? If so, let's see the receipts. If, not please give it a rest.
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it's  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/12/2022 7:39 pm : link
one easy step to make this all go away. One step.
Does ANYONE really know his role?  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/12/2022 7:41 pm : link
I have seen it run the gamut.
What's...  
Brown_Hornet : 1/12/2022 7:42 pm : link
...the step?
The  
Straw Hat : 1/12/2022 7:42 pm : link
Whining over this guy is ridiculous. We’ll never know either way what kind of role he really has. Best to move on.
When the organization says it's a title with no real effect  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/12/2022 7:43 pm : link
on day to day operations, but he's meeting with the new GM, what are fans supposed to say?
RE: When the organization says it's a title with no real effect  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/12/2022 7:45 pm : link
In comment 15550156 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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on day to day operations, but he's meeting with the new GM, what are fans supposed to say?


He is also a co owner.
RE: What's...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/12/2022 7:45 pm : link
In comment 15550150 Brown_Hornet said:
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...the step?


Resign his position as Senior Vice President of Player Personnel. Or remove him from that post.

If you don't want fans bitching about his role in team personnel decisions, then maybe it's not a great idea to give him a title that suggests he has immense influence.
RE: RE: When the organization says it's a title with no real effect  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/12/2022 7:46 pm : link
In comment 15550158 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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on day to day operations, but he's meeting with the new GM, what are fans supposed to say?



He is also a co owner.


So are about 50 other Maras.
RE: Does ANYONE really know his role?  
Jimmy Googs : 1/12/2022 7:46 pm : link
In comment 15550147 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I have seen it run the gamut.


Yes based on today...

* he writes a few scouting reports on some college players and loads it into the player database they maintain;
* he gets to fly to the draft and sit in the war room;
* he is in-charge of logging onto the Zoom call for the GM candidate interviews

Did I miss anything?
RE: it's  
BlackLight : 1/12/2022 7:47 pm : link
In comment 15550145 Eric from BBI said:
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one easy step to make this all go away. One step.


Nope. The Venn Diagram of people who are outraged that Chris Mara is taking notes in these GM interviews, people who would be outraged if Mara/Tisch were the only ones in the room, and people who would be outraged if they promoted from within, and people who would be outraged if they hired a consultant to feed them candidates, is a perfect circle.

When the new GM and HC are hired, I hope Chris Mara introduces them both at the introductory press with John Mara not even in the building. So that the resulting collective stroke in the fanbase might cause the aggregate sanity quotient to tick back up a few points.
I'll ask one question.  
robbieballs2003 : 1/12/2022 7:51 pm : link
When would you say this started going downhill? Now look up when he was promoted to his current position. As Eric said, maybe he is to blame or maybe he isn't but he shouldn't be in his position.
Chris Mara Is The Whipping Boy  
Trainmaster : 1/12/2022 7:52 pm : link
for the apparent deep seated organizational problems the Giants have had the last ten years. There have been some very questionable draft and free agency decisions since Chris Mara has had the Senior VP of Player Personnel role. You have to believe he has at least some "thumb on the scale" influence; how much we'll never know. He is one constant over 4 Head Coaches and 2 General Managers. Is he 100% the problem? No. Is he likely at least a small issue and potentially a large issue? Yes.

Having Mara family members have "beyond ownership roles" is problematic. Is it so hard to see that?

RE: RE: it's  
bwitz : 1/12/2022 7:53 pm : link
In comment 15550166 BlackLight said:
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In comment 15550145 Eric from BBI said:


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one easy step to make this all go away. One step.



Nope. The Venn Diagram of people who are outraged that Chris Mara is taking notes in these GM interviews, people who would be outraged if Mara/Tisch were the only ones in the room, and people who would be outraged if they promoted from within, and people who would be outraged if they hired a consultant to feed them candidates, is a perfect circle.

When the new GM and HC are hired, I hope Chris Mara introduces them both at the introductory press with John Mara not even in the building. So that the resulting collective stroke in the fanbase might cause the aggregate sanity quotient to tick back up a few points.


Yeah. Ok. Keep wearing this rose colored glasses.
Or If You Want Chris Mara To Have His Fancy  
Trainmaster : 1/12/2022 7:53 pm : link
Senior VP of Player Personnel title, make sure the new GM has the President of Football Operations title and ensure that the GM has the authority.

RE: RE: What's...  
clatterbuck : 1/12/2022 7:53 pm : link
In comment 15550161 Eric from BBI said:
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...the step?



Resign his position as Senior Vice President of Player Personnel. Or remove him from that post.

If you don't want fans bitching about his role in team personnel decisions, then maybe it's not a great idea to give him a title that suggests he has immense influence.


Then maybe fans should hire the coaches and run the draft, too.
RE: RE: RE: What's...  
bwitz : 1/12/2022 7:55 pm : link
In comment 15550188 clatterbuck said:
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In comment 15550161 Eric from BBI said:


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In comment 15550150 Brown_Hornet said:


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...the step?



Resign his position as Senior Vice President of Player Personnel. Or remove him from that post.

If you don't want fans bitching about his role in team personnel decisions, then maybe it's not a great idea to give him a title that suggests he has immense influence.



Then maybe fans should hire the coaches and run the draft, too.


Or here’s a thought, maybe hire people who aren’t inept family members? But no, no. That’s ridiculous.
RE: Chris Mara Is The Whipping Boy  
FStubbs : 1/12/2022 7:55 pm : link
In comment 15550183 Trainmaster said:
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for the apparent deep seated organizational problems the Giants have had the last ten years. There have been some very questionable draft and free agency decisions since Chris Mara has had the Senior VP of Player Personnel role. You have to believe he has at least some "thumb on the scale" influence; how much we'll never know. He is one constant over 4 Head Coaches and 2 General Managers. Is he 100% the problem? No. Is he likely at least a small issue and potentially a large issue? Yes.

Having Mara family members have "beyond ownership roles" is problematic. Is it so hard to see that?


I honestly believe most of these people vociferously defending Chris Mara are either members of the Giants organization or recipients of nepotism in their offline life and feel personally attacked.
RE: I'll ask one question.  
section125 : 1/12/2022 7:55 pm : link
In comment 15550180 robbieballs2003 said:
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When would you say this started going downhill? Now look up when he was promoted to his current position. As Eric said, maybe he is to blame or maybe he isn't but he shouldn't be in his position.


By that reasoning Tisch should not have a title either. He never does anything except agree with John on coaches and GMs, then goes and bangs his GF.
RE: RE: Does ANYONE really know his role?  
Bill in UT : 1/12/2022 7:55 pm : link
In comment 15550165 Jimmy Googs said:
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I have seen it run the gamut.



Yes based on today...

* he writes a few scouting reports on some college players and loads it into the player database they maintain;
* he gets to fly to the draft and sit in the war room;
* he is in-charge of logging onto the Zoom call for the GM candidate interviews

Did I miss anything?


Wow. I don't really keep a book on every poster here as some do, but color me surprised nonetheless that you would just take anything that John Mara says at face value. I've always seen you as more of a skeptic. Maybe you haven't come down from the UGA high :)
RE: RE: Chris Mara Is The Whipping Boy  
section125 : 1/12/2022 7:56 pm : link
In comment 15550192 FStubbs said:
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In comment 15550183 Trainmaster said:


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for the apparent deep seated organizational problems the Giants have had the last ten years. There have been some very questionable draft and free agency decisions since Chris Mara has had the Senior VP of Player Personnel role. You have to believe he has at least some "thumb on the scale" influence; how much we'll never know. He is one constant over 4 Head Coaches and 2 General Managers. Is he 100% the problem? No. Is he likely at least a small issue and potentially a large issue? Yes.

Having Mara family members have "beyond ownership roles" is problematic. Is it so hard to see that?




I honestly believe most of these people vociferously defending Chris Mara are either members of the Giants organization or recipients of nepotism in their offline life and feel personally attacked.


WTF?
I'm sorry people are upset about "the obsession"  
cpgiants : 1/12/2022 7:57 pm : link
But the circumstantial evidence is that he is the problematic link throughout our darkest times in terms of player procurement.

He has a role in player evaluation and his is an ownership voice so it is going to be heavily influential.

And there is no evidence that he's good about it.

More likely than not, he is a significant part of the problem, and as fans we all just want our team to be good.

He seems to be exactly what needs to be spoken about.
Read the article  
David_Upstate : 1/12/2022 7:58 pm : link
Maybe this....
This explains it perfectly - ( New Window )
RE: Chris Mara Is The Whipping Boy  
clatterbuck : 1/12/2022 7:58 pm : link
In comment 15550183 Trainmaster said:
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for the apparent deep seated organizational problems the Giants have had the last ten years. There have been some very questionable draft and free agency decisions since Chris Mara has had the Senior VP of Player Personnel role. You have to believe he has at least some "thumb on the scale" influence; how much we'll never know. He is one constant over 4 Head Coaches and 2 General Managers. Is he 100% the problem? No. Is he likely at least a small issue and potentially a large issue? Yes.

Having Mara family members have "beyond ownership roles" is problematic. Is it so hard to see that?


So I guess Gettleman is off the hook. Btw, was Chris Mara dialed into Judge's headset demanding the QB sneak play calls as well?
RE: RE: I'll ask one question.  
bwitz : 1/12/2022 7:59 pm : link
In comment 15550193 section125 said:
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When would you say this started going downhill? Now look up when he was promoted to his current position. As Eric said, maybe he is to blame or maybe he isn't but he shouldn't be in his position.



By that reasoning Tisch should not have a title either. He never does anything except agree with John on coaches and GMs, then goes and bangs his GF.


Ridiculous comparison. Tisch actually owns a stake in the team. Chris Mara does not, other than the silver fucking spoon he has ‘earned’ by the genetic lottery. You see any Tisch’s working in the front office? Nope.
RE: RE: I'll ask one question.  
robbieballs2003 : 1/12/2022 7:59 pm : link
In comment 15550193 section125 said:
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When would you say this started going downhill? Now look up when he was promoted to his current position. As Eric said, maybe he is to blame or maybe he isn't but he shouldn't be in his position.



By that reasoning Tisch should not have a title either. He never does anything except agree with John on coaches and GMs, then goes and bangs his GF.


Dude, what are you talking about?
RE: RE: Chris Mara Is The Whipping Boy  
bwitz : 1/12/2022 8:00 pm : link
In comment 15550201 clatterbuck said:
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for the apparent deep seated organizational problems the Giants have had the last ten years. There have been some very questionable draft and free agency decisions since Chris Mara has had the Senior VP of Player Personnel role. You have to believe he has at least some "thumb on the scale" influence; how much we'll never know. He is one constant over 4 Head Coaches and 2 General Managers. Is he 100% the problem? No. Is he likely at least a small issue and potentially a large issue? Yes.

Having Mara family members have "beyond ownership roles" is problematic. Is it so hard to see that?




So I guess Gettleman is off the hook. Btw, was Chris Mara dialed into Judge's headset demanding the QB sneak play calls as well?


Clueless
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/12/2022 8:02 pm : link
I don't doubt Chris has some sway. But I don't think he is some shadow GM.
RE: RE: What's...  
Brown_Hornet : 1/12/2022 8:02 pm : link
In comment 15550161 Eric from BBI said:
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...the step?



Resign his position as Senior Vice President of Player Personnel. Or remove him from that post.

If you don't want fans bitching about his role in team personnel decisions, then maybe it's not a great idea to give him a title that suggests he has immense influence.

If it was my business I If it was my business...
...some things I would want to know what fans had to say and some things I would not.

Based on the amount of information the fans have about Chris They really looks silly complaining as much as they are.
Now that assumes that "they" is more than just BBI.
Or a small fraction of BBI.
I can't fathom why people have a problem  
j_rud : 1/12/2022 8:03 pm : link
with the heat being directed at him. It's really strange to me.
RE: RE: Chris Mara Is The Whipping Boy  
clatterbuck : 1/12/2022 8:04 pm : link
In comment 15550192 FStubbs said:
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In comment 15550183 Trainmaster said:


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for the apparent deep seated organizational problems the Giants have had the last ten years. There have been some very questionable draft and free agency decisions since Chris Mara has had the Senior VP of Player Personnel role. You have to believe he has at least some "thumb on the scale" influence; how much we'll never know. He is one constant over 4 Head Coaches and 2 General Managers. Is he 100% the problem? No. Is he likely at least a small issue and potentially a large issue? Yes.

Having Mara family members have "beyond ownership roles" is problematic. Is it so hard to see that?




I honestly believe most of these people vociferously defending Chris Mara are either members of the Giants organization or recipients of nepotism in their offline life and feel personally attacked.


Oh wow, you got me man. I'm an under-assistant west coast promotion man for Jints Central and I got the job from my third cousin's brother-in-law... What a smug and frankly stupid comment.
how can anyone defend that our GMS all having the same DPP in C. Mara  
Platos : 1/12/2022 8:04 pm : link
and act like its not a big deal????

you know why Jerry Reese got the nod for GM here? because he was director of player personnel from 04-07.

you know why DG got the Panthers job? because he was director of pro personnel from 99-12. both those men contributed to winning championships here. Chris Mara has not.

these are positions of meaning. these are the positions we're interviewing right now for our own GM job.

Chris was a "scout" in the 80s. then ran a scouting company i'm sure nfl teams hired as a favor to Wellington. dicked around in the AFL before coming back to ny as "Vice President of Player Evaluation" whatever the FUCK that means. we've been drafting like shit since he's been promoted. other teams don't have 3 player personnel guys like us and are better. wake up.

he has NO risk of being fired in a key position on the team.
As Eric says  
Bill in UT : 1/12/2022 8:06 pm : link
Just let him resign as head of personnel. Then, whatever title John has as operating officer, make him the assistant. He can keep drawing his salary and stay in his office. And Tim can be assistant to the assistant.
RE: RE: RE: Chris Mara Is The Whipping Boy  
bwitz : 1/12/2022 8:06 pm : link
In comment 15550213 clatterbuck said:
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for the apparent deep seated organizational problems the Giants have had the last ten years. There have been some very questionable draft and free agency decisions since Chris Mara has had the Senior VP of Player Personnel role. You have to believe he has at least some "thumb on the scale" influence; how much we'll never know. He is one constant over 4 Head Coaches and 2 General Managers. Is he 100% the problem? No. Is he likely at least a small issue and potentially a large issue? Yes.

Having Mara family members have "beyond ownership roles" is problematic. Is it so hard to see that?




I honestly believe most of these people vociferously defending Chris Mara are either members of the Giants organization or recipients of nepotism in their offline life and feel personally attacked.



Oh wow, you got me man. I'm an under-assistant west coast promotion man for Jints Central and I got the job from my third cousin's brother-in-law... What a smug and frankly stupid comment.


LMFAO. Says the clueless moron who started this thread.
Most of this is on DG, some on JJ  
Payasdaddy : 1/12/2022 8:07 pm : link
C Mara has some influence but I dont see him as the one ruining things
He has a voice, but not enough to royally screw shit up
DG bid against himself for KG, horrid signings like solder
totally ruined the cap in 2 yrs
hog mollies my ass
full blown love for DJ at a senior bowl practice
saquon touched by the hand of god ( he did look awesome in 2018)
JMHO
RE: RE: RE: I'll ask one question.  
clatterbuck : 1/12/2022 8:09 pm : link
In comment 15550203 bwitz said:
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When would you say this started going downhill? Now look up when he was promoted to his current position. As Eric said, maybe he is to blame or maybe he isn't but he shouldn't be in his position.



By that reasoning Tisch should not have a title either. He never does anything except agree with John on coaches and GMs, then goes and bangs his GF.



Ridiculous comparison. Tisch actually owns a stake in the team. Chris Mara does not, other than the silver fucking spoon he has ‘earned’ by the genetic lottery. You see any Tisch’s working in the front office? Nope.


Jonathon Tisch is treasurer of the NY Football Giants.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I'll ask one question.  
bwitz : 1/12/2022 8:10 pm : link
In comment 15550227 clatterbuck said:
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When would you say this started going downhill? Now look up when he was promoted to his current position. As Eric said, maybe he is to blame or maybe he isn't but he shouldn't be in his position.



By that reasoning Tisch should not have a title either. He never does anything except agree with John on coaches and GMs, then goes and bangs his GF.



Ridiculous comparison. Tisch actually owns a stake in the team. Chris Mara does not, other than the silver fucking spoon he has ‘earned’ by the genetic lottery. You see any Tisch’s working in the front office? Nope.



Jonathon Tisch is treasurer of the NY Football Giants.


And? That’s not even close to the front office operations and you know it. Sad that your thread is being shot down, I know.
RE: RE: What's...  
UConn4523 : 1/12/2022 8:10 pm : link
In comment 15550161 Eric from BBI said:
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...the step?



Resign his position as Senior Vice President of Player Personnel. Or remove him from that post.

If you don't want fans bitching about his role in team personnel decisions, then maybe it's not a great idea to give him a title that suggests he has immense influence.


Seems like it would make you and some others happy, no one else cares. No one else thinks it’s a big deal. I’ve yet to talk to one person, not single one in the real world who cares what Chris Maras title or involvement is.

This is as “fake news” as it gets.
As for the nephew...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/12/2022 8:14 pm : link
No clue. But Chris Bisignano-no shill-spoke pretty highly of him recently.
RE: RE: What's...  
Red Right Hand : 1/12/2022 8:14 pm : link
In comment 15550161 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 15550150 Brown_Hornet said:


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...the step?



Resign his position as Senior Vice President of Player Personnel. Or remove him from that post.

If you don't want fans bitching about his role in team personnel decisions, then maybe it's not a great idea to give him a title that suggests he has immense influence.
you're not wrong.
As others noted it was his promotion  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/12/2022 8:17 pm : link
Now the Giants did win that Super Bowl in 2011 but the cracks existed and they were wide open by 2013. Draft went way downhill starting in 2009 other than a couple very high end players. Later round picks almost non existent that had a impact.

So if Chris wanted to be the GM but Tisch not agreeing to it maybe John compromised and told Chris you can still be very involved but you have to carry a different title. Just a theory but I am not sure we will ever know for sure. Hopefully they start winning more soon.
RE: I can't fathom why people have a problem  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/12/2022 8:19 pm : link
In comment 15550210 j_rud said:
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with the heat being directed at him. It's really strange to me.


Some people are desperate to not have "negativity" on the board yet poke their heads in the threads and initiate the conversations they claim to hate.
RE: RE: RE: What's...  
kdog77 : 1/12/2022 8:21 pm : link
In comment 15550230 UConn4523 said:
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I’ve yet to talk to one person, not single one in the real world who cares what Chris Maras title or involvement is.

This is as “fake news” as it gets.


You are posting on a fan run site dedicated to a team that has gone 22-59 over the past 5 years and 61-100 over the past 10 years and wondering why the fans are obsessed about the ownership and front office structure of that team? Seriously? Maybe the people you meet in the real world don't care b/c they are not die hard fans who punish themselves every Sunday watching this crap team.
RE: RE: it's  
Red Right Hand : 1/12/2022 8:23 pm : link
In comment 15550166 BlackLight said:
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one easy step to make this all go away. One step.



Nope. The Venn Diagram of people who are outraged that Chris Mara is taking notes in these GM interviews, people who would be outraged if Mara/Tisch were the only ones in the room, and people who would be outraged if they promoted from within, and people who would be outraged if they hired a consultant to feed them candidates, is a perfect circle.

When the new GM and HC are hired, I hope Chris Mara introduces them both at the introductory press with John Mara not even in the building. So that the resulting collective stroke in the fanbase might cause the aggregate sanity quotient to tick back up a few points.
That would be awesome.
RE: RE: RE: I'll ask one question.  
Red Right Hand : 1/12/2022 8:26 pm : link
In comment 15550203 bwitz said:
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When would you say this started going downhill? Now look up when he was promoted to his current position. As Eric said, maybe he is to blame or maybe he isn't but he shouldn't be in his position.



By that reasoning Tisch should not have a title either. He never does anything except agree with John on coaches and GMs, then goes and bangs his GF.



Ridiculous comparison. Tisch actually owns a stake in the team. Chris Mara does not, other than the silver fucking spoon he has ‘earned’ by the genetic lottery. You see any Tisch’s working in the front office? Nope.
So, wow, wrong on both counts. He's an OWNER, and there are at least 2 Tisches working in the office, including the fucking treasurer.
RE: RE: RE: RE: What's...  
UConn4523 : 1/12/2022 8:28 pm : link
In comment 15550244 kdog77 said:
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I’ve yet to talk to one person, not single one in the real world who cares what Chris Maras title or involvement is.

This is as “fake news” as it gets.



You are posting on a fan run site dedicated to a team that has gone 22-59 over the past 5 years and 61-100 over the past 10 years and wondering why the fans are obsessed about the ownership and front office structure of that team? Seriously? Maybe the people you meet in the real world don't care b/c they are not die hard fans who punish themselves every Sunday watching this crap team.


At this point I don’t think you guys even know what you are complaining about anymore. Go look at any GM thread prior to yesterday. All are full of proclamations about how we are going from DG straight to Abrams and that he will be nothing more than Maras errand boy. The GM search is a ruse, just so Mara can make sure we are all faked out. Well, the complete opposite happened. So now it’s on to Chris mara and his title.

And no, plenty of people I know are die hards, they don’t care about message boards or social media.
 
christian : 1/12/2022 8:38 pm : link
As far as I know we’re all real people on this site — if anyone has evidence to the contrary that would be killer.

A little thought experiment: You apply for a high level job and you’re pretty familiar with the owners. You get the interview and they give you 3 names.

You take a quick look just to confirm. One is CEO/President, one is Chairman/EVP, one is SVP over a department that sounds an awful like what you do.

You then hear through the grapevine the SVP who will be at the interview and who is an owner “has no authority and won’t be making the decisions.”

This is weird, no?
I view this as comical  
George from PA : 1/12/2022 8:41 pm : link
I will start being concern if I hear....he squashed drafting Parsons.

I hoped he would have intervene drafting D.Baker
RE: RE: RE: RE: I'll ask one question.  
FStubbs : 1/12/2022 8:50 pm : link
In comment 15550251 Red Right Hand said:
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When would you say this started going downhill? Now look up when he was promoted to his current position. As Eric said, maybe he is to blame or maybe he isn't but he shouldn't be in his position.



By that reasoning Tisch should not have a title either. He never does anything except agree with John on coaches and GMs, then goes and bangs his GF.



Ridiculous comparison. Tisch actually owns a stake in the team. Chris Mara does not, other than the silver fucking spoon he has ‘earned’ by the genetic lottery. You see any Tisch’s working in the front office? Nope.

So, wow, wrong on both counts. He's an OWNER, and there are at least 2 Tisches working in the office, including the fucking treasurer.


Nobody cares about the Treasurer. People care about the guys picking the crappy players.
They own the team… if you can’t accept that…  
DJ5150 : 1/12/2022 8:56 pm : link
…. You will have to find another team to follow….. I do t care if there are 15 scouts and evaluators…. If they put Maras opinion in the basket … so be it.
Good to see  
Shock-Man : 1/12/2022 8:57 pm : link
Chris Mara's family and friends are posting on BBI now
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