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FWIW: Joe Schoen "Crushed"

clatterbuck : 1/13/2022 11:24 am
interview yesterday, according to twitter poster citing a Giants source.
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ugggh!  
I Love Clams Casino : 1/13/2022 11:26 am : link
I read this as Schoen being crushed for some reason
Good to know  
bigblue12 : 1/13/2022 11:26 am : link
But so did Joe Judge
He wowed them with his 100 day plan  
Mike from Ohio : 1/13/2022 11:27 am : link
1) Chris Mara and Tim McDonnell are not allowed in any more scouting meetings;

2) Moving Barkley to QB and Jones to RB;

3) Sumos on the Oline; and

4) Taco Tuesdays at Timex
Maybe he can tape the loose lips  
ZogZerg : 1/13/2022 11:27 am : link
when he gets the job....
RE: Good to know  
UConn4523 : 1/13/2022 11:28 am : link
In comment 15551109 bigblue12 said:
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But so did Joe Judge


Don’t all guys that get hired? Who’s a guy who got the job that didn’t impress?
RE: He wowed them with his 100 day plan  
I Love Clams Casino : 1/13/2022 11:29 am : link
In comment 15551110 Mike from Ohio said:
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1) Chris Mara and Tim McDonnell are not allowed in any more scouting meetings;

2) Moving Barkley to QB and Jones to RB;

3) Sumos on the Oline; and

4) Taco Tuesdays at Timex


LOLZ!
“Not sure how well that went  
UConn4523 : 1/13/2022 11:29 am : link
let’s hire him!”
for what its worth  
ron mexico : 1/13/2022 11:29 am : link
it doesn't seem too hard to wow the mara boys and Tisch

Can the Giants Mgt not climax so quickly  
George from PA : 1/13/2022 11:29 am : link
Act like its not your 1st time, please.
Good to see  
Slowasski : 1/13/2022 11:30 am : link
Chris Mara has a new assistant.
My dude  
Anakim : 1/13/2022 11:30 am : link
Are you serious with this thread title? Being crushed and crushing an interview are two entirely different things.
RE: RE: Good to know  
MartyNJ1969 : 1/13/2022 11:30 am : link
In comment 15551118 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 15551109 bigblue12 said:


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But so did Joe Judge



Don’t all guys that get hired? Who’s a guy who got the job that didn’t impress?


They guy who got the job (head coach) who was not first choice was Dan Reeves IIRC
RE: ugggh!  
Milton : 1/13/2022 11:31 am : link
In comment 15551108 I Love Clams Casino said:
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I read this as Schoen being crushed for some reason
Ha ha me too!
I'm so sick and tired of hearing about people  
Essex : 1/13/2022 11:31 am : link
"crushing" interviews. So did Joe Judge. That is not a factor. I would rather have a person who cant complete a sentence, but knows the football business inside and out (contracts, scouting, analytics etc) than some person who can be a salesman.
FYI, it's pronounced "Shane"...here's an interview with him  
FranknWeezer : 1/13/2022 11:32 am : link
for some perspective on what he's like.
Life on the Sidelines: Bills Asst. GM Joe Schoen - ( New Window )
RE: RE: RE: Good to know  
UConn4523 : 1/13/2022 11:32 am : link
In comment 15551129 MartyNJ1969 said:
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In comment 15551118 UConn4523 said:


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In comment 15551109 bigblue12 said:


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But so did Joe Judge



Don’t all guys that get hired? Who’s a guy who got the job that didn’t impress?



They guy who got the job (head coach) who was not first choice was Dan Reeves IIRC


That’s sometimes how it goes, doesn’t mean option B sucks or you weren’t impressed by him/her.
These reactions are pure gold  
UConn4523 : 1/13/2022 11:33 am : link
I don’t know how some people can even get through their days.
Of course some use this as reason to slam the team  
UberAlias : 1/13/2022 11:33 am : link
Too funny.
RE: These reactions are pure gold  
GiantGrit : 1/13/2022 11:36 am : link
In comment 15551146 UConn4523 said:
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I don’t know how some people can even get through their days.


I often have that thought here.
Perhaps we not overreact  
jvm52106 : 1/13/2022 11:40 am : link
here as I am sure Schoen's people are the ones leaking he crushed it.
RE: I'm so sick and tired of hearing about people  
Payasdaddy : 1/13/2022 11:55 am : link
In comment 15551136 Essex said:
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"crushing" interviews. So did Joe Judge. That is not a factor. I would rather have a person who cant complete a sentence, but knows the football business inside and out (contracts, scouting, analytics etc) than some person who can be a salesman.


Agreed. At least this schoen has the more experience to back it up.
RE: He wowed them with his 100 day plan  
Azul Grande : 1/13/2022 11:56 am : link
In comment 15551110 Mike from Ohio said:
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1) Chris Mara and Tim McDonnell are not allowed in any more scouting meetings;

2) Moving Barkley to QB and Jones to RB;

3) Sumos on the Oline; and

4) Taco Tuesdays at Timex


I would try Toney at QB.
RE: I'm so sick and tired of hearing about people  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 1/13/2022 11:57 am : link
In comment 15551136 Essex said:
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"crushing" interviews. So did Joe Judge. That is not a factor. I would rather have a person who cant complete a sentence, but knows the football business inside and out (contracts, scouting, analytics etc) than some person who can be a salesman.


Wow, that's really stupid.

A GM needs to be a good communicator.
RE: He wowed them with his 100 day plan  
Beer Man : 1/13/2022 11:57 am : link
In comment 15551110 Mike from Ohio said:
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1) Chris Mara and Tim McDonnell are not allowed in any more scouting meetings;

2) Moving Barkley to QB and Jones to RB;

3) Sumos on the Oline; and

4) Taco Tuesdays at Timex
Nice!
Don't care about who aced the interview  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/13/2022 11:57 am : link
Let's learn from past mistakes.
Kruger indus..I mean the Giants  
Joey in VA : 1/13/2022 11:58 am : link
Better get this right
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Ten Ton Hammer : 1/13/2022 12:01 pm : link
In comment 15551243 LakeGeorgeGiant said:
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"crushing" interviews. So did Joe Judge. That is not a factor. I would rather have a person who cant complete a sentence, but knows the football business inside and out (contracts, scouting, analytics etc) than some person who can be a salesman.



Wow, that's really stupid.

A GM needs to be a good communicator.


I don't know if job interviews are really the best measure of ability to communicate. It's people presenting the absolute best version of themselves and in a lot of cases, one side trying to give what they think are the answers the other side wants to hear.

So did Joe Judge  
jeff57 : 1/13/2022 12:07 pm : link
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He's the guy  
Blue92 : 1/13/2022 12:09 pm : link
The Giants have to interview everyone and complete the process but this is them letting him know, "Don't take another job. You're our guy. Stand by for your offer."
RE: Kruger indus..I mean the Giants  
mfsd : 1/13/2022 12:12 pm : link
In comment 15551248 Joey in VA said:
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Better get this right


Haha well done

We don't care, and it shows...
RE: Good to know  
section125 : 1/13/2022 12:12 pm : link
In comment 15551109 bigblue12 said:
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But so did Joe Judge


Yep...difference is Judge was a ST Coordinator. Schoen has been assist GM for years.

But yes, Judge was said to have crushed his interview. But I bet most of the top candidates will do so also.
RE: RE: I'm so sick and tired of hearing about people  
UConn4523 : 1/13/2022 12:17 pm : link
In comment 15551243 LakeGeorgeGiant said:
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In comment 15551136 Essex said:


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"crushing" interviews. So did Joe Judge. That is not a factor. I would rather have a person who cant complete a sentence, but knows the football business inside and out (contracts, scouting, analytics etc) than some person who can be a salesman.



Wow, that's really stupid.

A GM needs to be a good communicator.


Lol, and this comes on the heels of reports on Judge/GM not getting along. Who needs communication?
.......  
CoughlinHandsonHips : 1/13/2022 12:23 pm : link
I bet you could really sucker a Mara into Amway type pyramid schemes, as long as you're a smooth talker
I second trying Toney at QB, what the hell  
gtt350 : 1/13/2022 12:47 pm : link
cannon arm ,elusive , can throw on thr run ,would freeze defenses
These guys think DG and JJ are smart and acceptable to be around  
NoGainDayne : 1/13/2022 12:53 pm : link
I'm sure the people they are interviewing are going to look like rocket scientists and missionaries
RE: He wowed them with his 100 day plan  
Bob from Massachusetts : 1/13/2022 12:56 pm : link
In comment 15551110 Mike from Ohio said:
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1) Chris Mara and Tim McDonnell are not allowed in any more scouting meetings;

2) Moving Barkley to QB and Jones to RB;

3) Sumos on the Oline; and

4) Taco Tuesdays at Timex


This was funny. I particularly like Taco Tuesday. Strikes the right note.
RE: RE: He wowed them with his 100 day plan  
mikeinbloomfield : 1/13/2022 1:16 pm : link
In comment 15551421 Bob from Massachusetts said:
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In comment 15551110 Mike from Ohio said:


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1) Chris Mara and Tim McDonnell are not allowed in any more scouting meetings;

2) Moving Barkley to QB and Jones to RB;

3) Sumos on the Oline; and

4) Taco Tuesdays at Timex



This was funny. I particularly like Taco Tuesday. Strikes the right note.


Hasn't been Timex in years. Its the Quest Diagnostics Center.

Shoen/Flores 2022
My Local Newspaper This Morning  
Aloha Alan : 1/13/2022 1:29 pm : link
already had him listed in our sports transitions section as our new GM.

First thing that came to my mind is: WTF?

That would have been listed in here BBI from some other source before it got to my dumb local newspaper.
Alan-  
Bill in TN : 1/13/2022 1:44 pm : link
Mine too. Knoxville paper owned by Gannett.
RE: RE: RE: I'm so sick and tired of hearing about people  
Essex : 1/13/2022 2:08 pm : link
In comment 15551303 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 15551243 LakeGeorgeGiant said:


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In comment 15551136 Essex said:


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"crushing" interviews. So did Joe Judge. That is not a factor. I would rather have a person who cant complete a sentence, but knows the football business inside and out (contracts, scouting, analytics etc) than some person who can be a salesman.



Wow, that's really stupid.

A GM needs to be a good communicator.



Lol, and this comes on the heels of reports on Judge/GM not getting along. Who needs communication?

You have to be kidding me. There are plenty of people who can get along with other people and communicate their wishes in ways that will be completely satisfactory without "Crushing" an interview. Or, maybe, the fact that "crushing the interview" is some bs that people drop into the media's lap. Either way, this is of so little moment and the fact that people are trying to make this into something more is funny to me.
Sounds like he prepared for this  
Simms11 : 1/13/2022 2:15 pm : link
and potentially laid out a nice plan of attack.
RE: He wowed them with his 100 day plan  
Highlander : 1/13/2022 2:20 pm : link
In comment 15551110 Mike from Ohio said:
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1) Chris Mara and Tim McDonnell are not allowed in any more scouting meetings;

2) Moving Barkley to QB and Jones to RB;

3) Sumos on the Oline; and

4) Taco Tuesdays at Timex


LMAO! That was good.
RE: I'm so sick and tired of hearing about people  
k2tampa : 1/13/2022 2:33 pm : link
In comment 15551136 Essex said:
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"crushing" interviews. So did Joe Judge. That is not a factor. I would rather have a person who cant complete a sentence, but knows the football business inside and out (contracts, scouting, analytics etc) than some person who can be a salesman.


I took that to mean they were impressed with his knowledge, assessment of the situation and proposal for moving forward. I've interviewed people who were really well spoken but obviously did not have the knowledge needed for the job. I would not say they crushed the interview. Quite the opposite.
RE: I'm so sick and tired of hearing about people  
clatterbuck : 1/13/2022 3:35 pm : link
In comment 15551136 Essex said:
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"crushing" interviews. So did Joe Judge. That is not a factor. I would rather have a person who cant complete a sentence, but knows the football business inside and out (contracts, scouting, analytics etc) than some person who can be a salesman.


Problem is, if you can't complete a sentence it's really hard to let folks know all the great stuff you know about football, how you would apply that knowledge, and how you would communication your plan through the organization.
RE: I'm so sick and tired of hearing about people  
clatterbuck : 1/13/2022 3:35 pm : link
In comment 15551136 Essex said:
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"crushing" interviews. So did Joe Judge. That is not a factor. I would rather have a person who cant complete a sentence, but knows the football business inside and out (contracts, scouting, analytics etc) than some person who can be a salesman.


Problem is, if you can't complete a sentence it's really hard to let folks know all the great stuff you know about football, how you would apply that knowledge, and how you would communication your plan through the organization.
RE: He wowed them with his 100 day plan  
BMac : 1/13/2022 4:08 pm : link
In comment 15551110 Mike from Ohio said:
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1) Chris Mara and Tim McDonnell are not allowed in any more scouting meetings;

2) Moving Barkley to QB and Jones to RB;

3) Sumos on the Oline; and

4) Taco Tuesdays at Timex


No mention of a new Pepsi giveaway? Get this bum outta here!
Ralph V ranks them  
jeff57 : 1/13/2022 4:27 pm : link
Schoen
Poles
Hortiz
Peters
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RE: RE: I'm so sick and tired of hearing about people  
Essex : 1/13/2022 4:43 pm : link
In comment 15551745 clatterbuck said:
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In comment 15551136 Essex said:


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"crushing" interviews. So did Joe Judge. That is not a factor. I would rather have a person who cant complete a sentence, but knows the football business inside and out (contracts, scouting, analytics etc) than some person who can be a salesman.



Problem is, if you can't complete a sentence it's really hard to let folks know all the great stuff you know about football, how you would apply that knowledge, and how you would communication your plan through the organization.

I was being a bit facetious; my point was that "crushing" an interview is not really what I am looking for as opposed to a substantive track record. Every time one of these interviews is done, we get the tweet so and so "crushed the interview" and my point is I could care less about that tweet. I'm all about substance and if crushing that interview means that the candidate brought evidence of his track record (players he scouted, ways he will change organization etc etc) I am all for it. If he is just blowing hot air but does it effectively, not so much.
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