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NFT: Cam Reddish traded to Knicks

DanMetroMan : 1/13/2022 11:27 am
Protected 2022 #1 via Charlotte the Hawks, Knicks also get Hill and 2025 2nd from BK
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Trade  
31southst : 1/13/2022 11:31 am : link
Knox going the other way as well. I have never understood the Reddish love so can't so I'm a big fan (he cannot shoot).

Seems like a precursor to another move, otherwise too many guys for the rotation.
Knicks just stole Reddish  
nygiants16 : 1/13/2022 11:31 am : link
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Knox is gone?  
GMEN46 : 1/13/2022 11:32 am : link
Knox was in deal?
Not a bad deal  
Anakim : 1/13/2022 11:32 am : link
RJ reunited with Reddish.

It would've been a late first rounder anyway. I mean that pick had so many conditions on it.
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DanMetroMan : 1/13/2022 11:32 am : link
Adrian Wojnarowski
@wojespn
New York is including Kevin Knox in trade to Atlanta, sources tell ESPN.
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DanMetroMan : 1/13/2022 11:34 am : link
So Knox and a protected #1 for Reddish, Hill and a 2025 2nd. Both Knox and Reddish are only 22 years old. Deal could work out for either (or both) sides
Interesting they got  
ajr2456 : 1/13/2022 11:34 am : link
The hawks to move off the Knicks pick and take the Hornets pick that may or may not be a first
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nygiants16 : 1/13/2022 11:34 am : link
In comment 15551150 DanMetroMan said:
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So Knox and a protected #1 for Reddish, Hill and a 2025 2nd. Both Knox and Reddish are only 22 years old. Deal could work out for either (or both) sides


Hill is a good defender, Knicks have to release someone, guessing it will be arci
Reddish  
Pete44 : 1/13/2022 11:35 am : link
He needs to stay healthy, but when Young was out and he got to be highlighted, he had some very big games.
Protections:  
guitarguybs12 : 1/13/2022 11:35 am : link
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The Charlotte first is protected top 18 (2022), top 16 (2023), top 14 (2024) and top 14 (2025). Turns into a 2026 and 2027 second if not conveyed.
Reddish  
31southst : 1/13/2022 11:36 am : link
Given Cam is up for an extension after this season, I wonder if they have something lined up and what it would be for. I'm guessing more than I think he should get, maybe like 4/50. They could always let him get to restricted FA the year after but that would surprise me given they are trading for him.
Poor Greg. Just when he was started to finally like a Dukie  
Anakim : 1/13/2022 11:39 am : link
Another one joins the party.

And yeah, maybe Zion will complete the triumvirate...
another thing  
nygiants16 : 1/13/2022 11:39 am : link
with Kemba back, who is out of the rotation?
RE: Interesting they got  
Pete44 : 1/13/2022 11:39 am : link
In comment 15551153 ajr2456 said:
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The hawks to move off the Knicks pick and take the Hornets pick that may or may not be a first



I like this deal a lot, another excellent asset. Reddish can be a really good 3 and D player.
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DanMetroMan : 1/13/2022 11:41 am : link
In comment 15551155 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 15551150 DanMetroMan said:


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So Knox and a protected #1 for Reddish, Hill and a 2025 2nd. Both Knox and Reddish are only 22 years old. Deal could work out for either (or both) sides



Hill is a good defender, Knicks have to release someone, guessing it will be arci


Hill will miss the remainder of the season. He was included to match salaries.
Well this is a bad take from our insider.  
JohninSC : 1/13/2022 11:41 am : link
"Don’t buy
ajr2456 : 1/12/2022 11:01 am : link : reply
The Reddish rumors"
RE: another thing  
ajr2456 : 1/13/2022 11:41 am : link
In comment 15551177 nygiants16 said:
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with Kemba back, who is out of the rotation?


Expect another move that sends out someone like Burke by the deadline
RE: Well this is a bad take from our insider.  
ajr2456 : 1/13/2022 11:42 am : link
In comment 15551190 JohninSC said:
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"Don’t buy
ajr2456 : 1/12/2022 11:01 am : link : reply
The Reddish rumors"


At the time the Hawks wanted the Knicks first round pick.
RE: RE: Well this is a bad take from our insider.  
Pete44 : 1/13/2022 11:44 am : link
In comment 15551194 ajr2456 said:
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"Don’t buy
ajr2456 : 1/12/2022 11:01 am : link : reply
The Reddish rumors"


AJR - we appreciate your inside info. Never bad to add another talented asset. I just wonder when they make that deal for a star player.


At the time the Hawks wanted the Knicks first round pick.
Love that for the Knicks  
Jerry in_DC : 1/13/2022 11:44 am : link
Reddish is inconsistent and has some uncertainty, but athletic wings are hard to find so thats a good place to take some swings.

Will be interesting to seen what kind of contract he gets.
2/3 of the duke boys here  
Br00klyn : 1/13/2022 11:44 am : link
only 1 left, lets go Zion!
RE: RE: Well this is a bad take from our insider.  
JohninSC : 1/13/2022 11:44 am : link
In comment 15551194 ajr2456 said:
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In comment 15551190 JohninSC said:


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"Don’t buy
ajr2456 : 1/12/2022 11:01 am : link : reply
The Reddish rumors"



At the time the Hawks wanted the Knicks first round pick.


I'm just busting your balls. All the inner workings are always fluid and constantly changing. I appreciate any info you provide. I like the trade.
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nygiants16 : 1/13/2022 11:46 am : link
In comment 15551187 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 15551150 DanMetroMan said:


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So Knox and a protected #1 for Reddish, Hill and a 2025 2nd. Both Knox and Reddish are only 22 years old. Deal could work out for either (or both) sides



Hill is a good defender, Knicks have to release someone, guessing it will be arci



Hill will miss the remainder of the season. He was included to match salaries.


ahhh ok
Coincidentally,  
Anakim : 1/13/2022 11:46 am : link
Our next game is in Atlanta against the Hawks...Reddish has some time to pack his shit.
RE: RE: another thing  
nygiants16 : 1/13/2022 11:47 am : link
In comment 15551192 ajr2456 said:
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In comment 15551177 nygiants16 said:


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with Kemba back, who is out of the rotation?



Expect another move that sends out someone like Burke by the deadline


There has to be, you didnt trade for reddish to sit, and we know thibs loves Grimes
Holy shit.. our Front Office actually did this  
JohninSC : 1/13/2022 11:48 am : link
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Ian Begley
@IanBegley
Knicks and Hawks had talked about a deal for Cam Reddish that sent Quentin Grimes to ATL in recent days but some NYK decision-makers been opposed, per SNY sources. @wojespn reports Knicks and Hawks have Reddish deal in place.


They actually kept Grimes and said, "No, take Kevin Knox instead". This would not have happened pre-Leon Rose.
Great deal for all parties  
Vanzetti : 1/13/2022 11:48 am : link
1. Knox gets a fresh start. He will evolve into a decent backup.

2. Reddish has tremendous upside. Shooting 90% free throws this year. You shoot that high, you can shoot. Just a matter of translating it to game. But the hand to eye coordination is there

3. It’s also obviously a move to lure Zion. Yes he is fat. Because he is unhappy. We sometimes forget how young these guys are. Your brain is not fully developed until you are 25.

Plays the same postion as Rj and Fournier  
shyster : 1/13/2022 11:48 am : link
Low assists, low rebounds, erratic scoring.

And he'll want to get paid.

There are always teams looking to grab first round picks from teams who want to make a move for the sake of making a move.
RE: Holy shit.. our Front Office actually did this  
ajr2456 : 1/13/2022 11:49 am : link
In comment 15551210 JohninSC said:
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Ian Begley
@IanBegley
Knicks and Hawks had talked about a deal for Cam Reddish that sent Quentin Grimes to ATL in recent days but some NYK decision-makers been opposed, per SNY sources. @wojespn reports Knicks and Hawks have Reddish deal in place.



They actually kept Grimes and said, "No, take Kevin Knox instead". This would not have happened pre-Leon Rose.


Thibs would trade his own child before he trades Grimes lol
Meh. Not a big Reddish fan at all.  
Stu11 : 1/13/2022 11:49 am : link
He's a low % chucker. Sure he's a decent energy scorer off the bench, but we're loaded with those types. That's not our need. No the Charlotte pick isn't great but it was an asset and I would have rather tossed it into a trade for a star or someone of true need.
Cam is a decent player  
Heisenberg : 1/13/2022 11:50 am : link
Young and still improving.

We have too many wings. Grimes is legit. Burks and Fournier. When we get our PGs back, playing time is tough.

Gotta think one of those is on the move at the deadline.
Thibs is gonna like him - defense highlights from MIL playoff series - ( New Window )
Not bad  
Heisenberg : 1/13/2022 11:57 am : link

Jonathan Wasserman
@NBADraftWass
· 6m
Knicks essentially turned 2021 draft picks #19, 21 and 32 into Reddish, Grimes, McBride, Jokubaitis
Failed  
DanMetroMan : 1/13/2022 11:57 am : link
physical

Mike Singer
@msinger
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2m
Breaking: The Bol Bol trade to Detroit is off, league source tells @denverpost
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DanMetroMan : 1/13/2022 11:59 am : link
No clue what Bol's physical issue is but if Denver wants that Nets 2025 pick I'd flip it in a deal for him
We have a lot of players now...  
Jan in DC : 1/13/2022 11:59 am : link
Another deal has to be coming to consolidate some of these assets. This feels like a precursor deal because in a vacuum it doesn't make sense.

Trading a 1st for a player in a contract year when we have a logjam for playing time already.
Nothing to complain about here, other than the logjam.  
bceagle05 : 1/13/2022 12:03 pm : link
You're replacing a guy who can't play - Knox - with a guy who can. I wonder if Alec Burks' days are numbered. He's one guy who might be able to fetch a late first from a contender.
Yeah I don't have a big problem with what we gave up  
Stu11 : 1/13/2022 12:04 pm : link
If we dealt Grimes instead I would have been furious. He has elite 3 and D potential on the level of a Mikal Bridges type player.
Kind  
DanMetroMan : 1/13/2022 12:05 pm : link
of weird they even contemplated including Grimes. Either they are far higher on Reddish than his numbers would indicate or they are lower on Grimes.
That's great  
NoGainDayne : 1/13/2022 12:06 pm : link
that Charlotte pick was the garbagiest pick I've ever seen traded lol.

Cam has potential. Want to see what Thibs can do with him. We could potentially have a great 3 and D player in him under Thibs.

What do we think this does to Burks minutes though? I have him on my fantasy team
You have to think the Knicks have a good idea who they can  
Heisenberg : 1/13/2022 12:07 pm : link
and might trade at the deadline. A guy like Burks or Fournier will have value, either as part of a larger package or for draft assets. So, picking up Reddish, who can be a part of the young team you're building and trading Burks for other assets makes pretty decent roster building sense.

And Hunter is already a better 3 and D guy and they have Hueter and Bogdonavic. Atlanta clearly decided that Cam didn't fit what they were doing long term. Makes sense from their side too.
I would've flipped out if they dealt Grimes.  
bceagle05 : 1/13/2022 12:07 pm : link
Nobody's untouchable, but we've needed a lights out shooter in the worst way, AND he's an exceptional perimeter defender. Not to mention six assists the other night against the Spurs.
Grimes is available in a package for a star, IMO  
Heisenberg : 1/13/2022 12:09 pm : link
that's it and that's how it should be. He's gonna be a 10 year NBA player, from my perspective. Winning player and a guy you keep.
Reddish is shooting 38% from 3  
nygiants16 : 1/13/2022 12:11 pm : link
ha shad some big games with guys out and had some big games against Mil in playoffs
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/13/2022 12:12 pm : link
Good deal.

Good luck Kevin. We will always have that '18 Summer League.
As an aside it's amazing how bad the Hawks are reeling  
Stu11 : 1/13/2022 12:12 pm : link
17-23. Lost by 25 to Miami last night. Yes they have a bunch of injuries and Covid stuff but who hasn't in the league? They can't even keep their heads above water. We'll see if they can replay their 2nd half circus trick again but they won't have a coaching change to spark them again.
I would assume  
nygiants16 : 1/13/2022 12:15 pm : link
it was the hawks trying to get grimes
RE: As an aside it's amazing how bad the Hawks are reeling  
nygiants16 : 1/13/2022 12:16 pm : link
In comment 15551294 Stu11 said:
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17-23. Lost by 25 to Miami last night. Yes they have a bunch of injuries and Covid stuff but who hasn't in the league? They can't even keep their heads above water. We'll see if they can replay their 2nd half circus trick again but they won't have a coaching change to spark them again.


There are rumors that Collins wants out and they may blow the team up aside from Capela and young
A dark day in Knicks history  
Greg from LI : 1/13/2022 12:16 pm : link
As  
DanMetroMan : 1/13/2022 12:18 pm : link
of right now the Hornets pick is 20th and thus would be conveyed to the Hawks if the season ended today.
I mean this is basically reddish for free...  
Italianju : 1/13/2022 12:19 pm : link
and you get all of next year before dealing with the QO. He has played pretty well when he gets consistent touches/minutes. He does feel a lot like fournier and burks though so it does feel like a log jam. I was expecting a move like this for a PG due to our injury concerns there.
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