Flores a candidate for HC

In comment 15551950 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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I'd pass. Why is a coach in year 3 starting a season 1-7?

His starting QB got hurt at the beginning of the game in week 2 and they lost 5 in a row without him?

With Tua they were 8-4.

In comment 15551975 Eric on Li said:

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In comment 15551950 Ten Ton Hammer said: Quote: I'd pass. Why is a coach in year 3 starting a season 1-7? His starting QB got hurt at the beginning of the game in week 2 and they lost 5 in a row without him? With Tua they were 8-4.

They had what most people would think is a high quality backup. It wasn't exactly Glennon back there. The last time Brissett was a full time starter he was capable enough to win 7 games. 18 TD, 6 INT. With the dolphins they had catastrophic losses to Atlanta and Jacksonville.

I'm no Flores expert but there's enough there to make me question it.

If reports are true, Flores seems incredibly tough to get along with
Flores vs. Tua blowup - ( New Window )

I'd love for Flores to get the job. He did a helluva job in Miami with a roster that wasn't exactly the '72 'Fins.

As for the post firing stuff...I never know what to make of it. There's obviously a lot of CYA/damage control when someone gets fired & it comes from both parties. The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.

To be difficult to deal with and overreach for control and authority.

O'Brien, McDaniels, Patricia, Saban as a pro in Miami, And depending on what you read, Judge and Flores

In comment 15552051 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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To be difficult to deal with and overreach for control and authority. O'Brien, McDaniels, Patricia, Saban as a pro in Miami, And depending on what you read, Judge and Flores

It happens all over. HC is responsible for the W/L record. I think some are better at getting there way but it usually helps if your winning. I stand on the side the HC is on the front lines and the GM provides the supplies. Ideally you hope they share similar views and can compromise on disagreements.

I heard about the Tua/Flores situation but Tua did send him a Christmas card! Interestingly a guy on NFL network said the players love Flores. Said he is much more than a coach and takes mentoring the players very seriously on life outside of football .

In comment 15552048 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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I'd love for Flores to get the job. He did a helluva job in Miami with a roster that wasn't exactly the '72 'Fins. As for the post firing stuff...I never know what to make of it. There's obviously a lot of CYA/damage control when someone gets fired & it comes from both parties. The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.

Well the guy did get fired for something. And it’s not much of a stretch to say it didn’t have to do with the results on the field because they were pretty damn good.

Fair enough. But it could also because Flores apparently wanted Herbert, but Grier took Tua & that caused bad blood between the two?

I think Flores is a really good head coach. And I'd be stoked if we ended up with him, but we shall see.

In comment 15552004 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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In comment 15551975 Eric on Li said: Quote: In comment 15551950 Ten Ton Hammer said: Quote: I'd pass. Why is a coach in year 3 starting a season 1-7? His starting QB got hurt at the beginning of the game in week 2 and they lost 5 in a row without him? With Tua they were 8-4. They had what most people would think is a high quality backup. It wasn't exactly Glennon back there. The last time Brissett was a full time starter he was capable enough to win 7 games. 18 TD, 6 INT. With the dolphins they had catastrophic losses to Atlanta and Jacksonville. I'm no Flores expert but there's enough there to make me question it.

Questions are fair game for any non-Belichek candidate. Just pointing out that it's understandable to lose games with a backup QB and go .500 in a year where the starter was out for more than a month. There's a stronger consensus that Flores didn't deserve to get fired than vice versa. The guy almost won coach of the year last year.

the negative reports. It isnt just one report now. The article from The Ringer posted in this thread was plenty fair, and still depicted Flores as a guy who needs to smooth out his rough edges to get another gig

4 offensive coordinators in 3 years?

He sure can coach, and apparently wanted Hebert over Tua which is a plus. But can Flores get along with his players and his GM?

And if he really does want Watson, what team is going to take on that PR nightmare? Certainly not the Giants.

In comment 15551905 Jim in Tampa said:

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In comment 15551772 djm said: Quote: hiring a miami cast off more than a philly cast off. Isn't Flores rumored to be a pain in the ass? Andy Reid was also a Philly cast-off. Tom Coughlin was a Jacksonville cast-off. Bill Belichick was a Cleveland cast-off, etc. Ray Handley, Ben McAdoo and Joe Judge were NOT cast-offs. Any experienced NFL HC who is currently available could be described as a "cast-off".

Poor choice of words on my part I wasn’t really focusing on the “cast off” part anyway. Was just thinking former Miami is more palatable than Philly...

I loved the Dolphins defense. All about pressuring the QB. Ultimately what you need to shut teams down. Get the organization right and this guy will represent a respective product even in down years.