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Who is your 1 and 1a for GM and HC right now?

Joey in VA : 1/13/2022 3:40 pm
Let's have some pointless fun and see who we like out there. I'm very curious to see what several of you think. We realistically know bupkus but who cares?

GM 1-Joe Horitz- Ozzie Newsome left the Ravens a perennial playoff contender, anyone from that tree is the most desirable to me. He had the foresight about Lamar Jackson that few teams were bold enough to try.

1a-Monti Ossenfort- I see a Titans team lose 88 players to IR and the heart of their offense for much of the season and they are still the number one seed. Vrabel is a great coach but personnel folks did an amazing job of keeping that roster afloat.

HC 1-Brian Flores - I know not another BB guy but Flores is a no nonsense coach who made do with some shoddy OL play and an oft injured QB with almost no decent RB talent and one go to WR. I like his demeanor and his press conferences should be 1/100th as long as Judge.

1a-Brian Daboll- This is a tough one, but Daboll built an offense around what Josh Allen's warts were and has done more on offense with much less. Stefan Diggs is a stud, but everyone else is journeyman like, save maybe Dawson Knox who finds openings like few modern TEs still can.

Who ya got and why?
I'll play  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 1/13/2022 3:44 pm : link
GM 1 - Hortiz. 1A - Schoen.
HC 1 - Flores. 1A - Daboll.
Go Terps : 1/13/2022 3:45 pm : link
Schoen/Daboll and Horitz/Roman are both fine by me.
Producer : 1/13/2022 3:45 pm : link


1. Kwesi Adofo-Mensah, Browns

1a. Nick Caserio, New England Patriots


1. Kellen Moore, Dallas

1a. Josh McDaniel, Patriots.
Chris684 : 1/13/2022 3:46 pm : link
GM: 1 Hortiz 1A Schoen

HC: 1 Harbaugh 1A Flores
bw in dc : 1/13/2022 3:46 pm : link
Team Baltimore or Team 49ers (Peters/McDaniels)
As A Long Time Giants Fan, A Giants HC With A  
Trainmaster : 1/13/2022 3:47 pm : link
background in defense (Flores) isn't a bad thing, but given how the NFL rules are geared to helping offenses (2021 Giants being incapable of help), an HC that was an OC seems more preferred.

I don't know enough about the current coordinators to weigh in with any value added, but I am jealous when I see other teams' offenses having very innovative and exciting offenses. I want to see that on the Giants.

Of course I wouldn't pass up a kick ass defense too!
Count me in with Chris  
Eric on Li : 1/13/2022 3:47 pm : link
In comment 15551776 Chris684 said:
GM: 1 Hortiz 1A Schoen

HC: 1 Harbaugh 1A Flores

not sure who my 1 vs. 1a would be but I like both of these combinations a lot.
ryanmkeane : 1/13/2022 3:47 pm : link
GM: Schoen and Poles are 1 and 1A

HC: Flores and Daboll are 1 and 1A

Schoen just seems like he’s the next really good GM in waiting - everything we’ve heard is that he’s the guy you want if you’re rebuilding your entire organization from a scouting and personnel perspective.

Flores is probably not realistic because he really hasn’t been linked to Schoen, but he seems like a great leader to me and he had some good seasons with Miami when they really don’t even have that good of a roster. He seems like a true motivator, and has to be a good game planner considering what he was able to do in Miami.

Daboll: honestly don’t know much about him another than offense, offense, offense. Whoever the QB is - it would seem like he’d be able to run a great system for
RE: mine  
bigblue12 : 1/13/2022 3:48 pm : link
In comment 15551775 Producer said:


1. Kwesi Adofo-Mensah, Browns

1a. Nick Caserio, New England Patriots

Caserio is the GM of the Texans

1. Kellen Moore, Dallas

1a. Josh McDaniel, Patriots.
RE: mine  
bigblue12 : 1/13/2022 3:48 pm : link
In comment 15551775 Producer said:


1. Kwesi Adofo-Mensah, Browns

1a. Nick Caserio, New England Patriots


1. Kellen Moore, Dallas

1a. Josh McDaniel, Patriots.

Caserio is the GM of the Texans
The_Boss : 1/13/2022 3:50 pm : link
let's go
Horwitz and Roman for me  
JohninSC : 1/13/2022 3:50 pm : link
GF1080 : 1/13/2022 3:50 pm : link
#1 Hortiz/Roman
#2 Peters/Whoever he wants
Little unorthodox  
gameday555 : 1/13/2022 3:51 pm : link
1. Adam Peters - by a wide margin
2. Joe Schoen

1. Kevin O'Connell
2. Nathaniel Hackett
Tough call  
Mike in NY : 1/13/2022 3:51 pm : link
(1) Schoen
(1a) Adam Peters

Head Coach
(1) Flores
(1a) Leftwich (although I would not be disappointed with someone like Joe Lombardi or Doug Pederson)
Thegratefulhead : 1/13/2022 3:53 pm : link
Hortiz & Harbaugh

Shoen & Pederson
RE: Ok  
Chris684 : 1/13/2022 3:53 pm : link
In comment 15551776 Chris684 said:
GM: 1 Hortiz 1A Schoen

HC: 1 Harbaugh 1A Flores

I forgot the "why"

Regarding my 1s. For me I like Hortiz because of the Ravens background and because I'm making a leap that if he comes from John Harbaugh, he might logically be the best chance at a guy who might push for Jim Harbaugh. I want Jim Harbaugh because I think this franchise needs instant credibility and a reason to be excited. Harbaugh provides both.

Regarding my 1As. Schoen mainly because of all these names we kind of heard his first and I started looking into his bio/resume and it is very impressive. Combine that with the team Buffalo has fielded and I like it. Flores because I think he's on the cusp of becoming the next big HC to join the ranks of guys like Tomlin or John Harbaugh. I want experience without being too much a of a retread. I think Flores fits that mold perfectly as he was only getting started in Miami.
GM is  
NorthCountryGiantsFan : 1/13/2022 3:55 pm : link
so tough...Gettleman & Reese both had huge parts in building winning rosters, but were overall terrible as GMs.

As a Red Sox fan (I know, I know, leave me alone) I was so excited with the Chaim Bloom hire. Coming from a perennial playoff team in TB and they are so good at utilizing young talent and maninpulating their tiny budgets. I thought that coming from a consistent winner with a newer approach would be the way to go, and so far it's gone almost exactly as I had hoped. So with that in mind, my #1 has to be Horitz. Baltimore is a contender every year, and runs a modern offense with a fast, aggressive defense. Sign me up for that! Im a little more unsure with Schoen. Buffalo is good, but the sample size is smaller. Take no chances, get the guy from the 20year program!
cokeduplt : 1/13/2022 3:59 pm : link


I'll give it a go  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/13/2022 4:00 pm : link
1a Poles
1b Ossenfort

1a Flores
1b Pederson

At the end of the day I still the HC is the far more important piece of the puzzle.
My preference  
JoeyBigBlue : 1/13/2022 4:02 pm : link
1. Hortiz / Martindale

2. Schoen / Daboll
Schoen 1, Hortiz 1A  
mikeinbloomfield : 1/13/2022 4:04 pm : link
Flores 1, Daboll 1A

I don't feel strongly about the coaches because I don't know enough about other candidates. Flores did a great job this year and his firing seems to have reasons other than results.

It really is 1 and 1A with the GMs. You can make a case for a lot of these guys.
Sammo85 : 1/13/2022 4:17 pm : link
1-Ryan Cowden
1a-Joe Schoen

1-Jim Harbaugh
1a-Dennis Allen
GM & HC for me  
Old Dirty : 1/13/2022 4:20 pm : link
Sign me up for Monti Ossenfort as the GM. I think he has been around teams that find good players at all levels of the draft & also brings in the right fits in FA. The teams he's been part of are pretty deep talent-wise.

For HC I really am starting to think Dan Quinn is a perfect fit for the NY Giants. He can get the most out of what we have on defense right now & will have our secondary laying the wood. We all know about his coaching experience. My biggest concern with him is who would be his OC?
JB_in_DC : 1/13/2022 4:26 pm : link
1: Peters
1a: Hortiz

1: Josh McDaniels
1a: Harbaugh
Schoen and Leslie Frazier  
jeff57 : 1/13/2022 4:29 pm : link
Followed by Hortiz and Greg Roman
RE: Ok  
Jay on the Island : 1/13/2022 4:31 pm : link
In comment 15551776 Chris684 said:
GM: 1 Hortiz 1A Schoen

HC: 1 Harbaugh 1A Flores

If Flores  
MotownGIANTS : 1/13/2022 4:31 pm : link
burns people out due to poor leadership skills (effective communication while respecting others is a leadership skill) I dont think that is a good candidate if you are trying ot stop the carousel from spinning so much
I'll Take Horitz  
MotownGIANTS : 1/13/2022 4:33 pm : link
Though I'd prefer Ozzie himself and let him have the WHOLE enchilada /w a blank check and havwe the Mara just stepdown altogether just be the owner ...
I'll Take Horitz  
MotownGIANTS : 1/13/2022 4:34 pm : link
Though I'd prefer Ozzie himself and let him have the WHOLE enchilada /w a blank check and have the Maras just step down altogether just be the owners ...
So fed up  
David B. : 1/13/2022 4:48 pm : link
I honestly don't give a shit. JUST GET IT RIGHT.
1: Horitz; Roman  
Vin_Cuccs : 1/13/2022 4:54 pm : link
1A: Schoen; Daboll

Although Peters really intrigues me.
My picks  
AdamBrag : 1/13/2022 5:11 pm : link

1 - Joe Schoen
1a - Ryan Poles


1 - Mike McDaniel
1a - Dan Quinn
Schoen, Horitz and of these 3, but  
George from PA : 1/13/2022 5:19 pm : link
HC is much I need to understand the entire staff.
RE: .  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/13/2022 5:21 pm : link
In comment 15551774 Go Terps said:
Schoen/Daboll and Horitz/Roman are both fine by me.

These are my preference also.
I'm liking the GM candidates way more than the HC ones out there  
KerrysFlask : 1/13/2022 5:21 pm : link
1) Peters & Lombardi

1a) Ossenfort & Roman

(Or maybe Mike McDaniel only because he seems like the lovechild of David Cross and Pete Davidson)
Slowasski : 1/13/2022 5:25 pm : link
Whomever Belichick recommends.
RE: hmmm  
Thegratefulhead : 1/13/2022 5:37 pm : link
In comment 15551803 Thegratefulhead said:
Hortiz & Harbaugh

Shoen & Pederson
Forgot the why too. Harbaugh W/L is outstanding, he played QB and has successfully coached in the NFL. I like the Raven's roster, they got a recent QB right.

Pederson won a Superbowl out of the NFC east with Nick Foles against Tom Brady and Bill Belichick. I like the Bill's roster a lot. They also got a recent QB right.
Hortiz as number 1  
johnnyb : 1/13/2022 6:08 pm : link
and Schoen as my 1A.

Hard no to Flores. There is a reason he was fired in Miami.

Daboll would make a fine offensive coach IMO.
Gruber : 1/13/2022 6:19 pm : link
Head coach is whoever Hortiz chooses.
Im shocked  
cokeduplt : 1/13/2022 6:23 pm : link
People want Josh Mcdaniel’s!! I want nothing to do with that guy.
just glad we are interviewing some good candidates  
DCPollaro : 1/13/2022 6:26 pm : link
I'd be happy with one of Hortiz, Schoen, Peters, Poles, Ossenfort
Poles doesn’t have the experience to me.....  
Simms11 : 1/13/2022 6:46 pm : link
and is still very young. It’s tough for anyone to come into NY and build.

GM 1: Schoen
1a: Hortiz
HC. 1: Flores
1a: Daboll
This is also not a 2 year deal IMO......  
Simms11 : 1/13/2022 6:49 pm : link
we’re going to sink or swim this time for at least 3 - 4 years. Let’s hope a first time HC can show some progress at least, regardless of who it is. I don’t think another 2 and done are in the cards! This is a critical, critical hire, both GM and HC.
RE: Im shocked  
shocktheworld : 1/13/2022 6:53 pm : link
In comment 15552002 cokeduplt said:
People want Josh Mcdaniel’s!! I want nothing to do with that guy.

Agreed… I’m done with BB’s offspring haha. Plus, he just comes off as unlike-able to me… and I want to someone from the Shanahan tree if at all possible. I love the way the run their offense. A modern day version of the bad ass NYG teams, in my opinion. Good strong D, and smash you in the mouth offense. Yes please
Horitz is number 1 for me.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/13/2022 6:56 pm : link
& then Poles. But to be looks like a strong list of dudes we're considering &-most importantly to me-nobody with Giants ties.

As for the coach, I lean Flores, but I'll defer that to the GM. Daboll intrigues me.
Doubledeuce22 : 1/13/2022 7:07 pm : link

1 - Hortiz
1a - Peters


1 - Harbaugh
1a - Dan Quinn
My choices  
GFAN52 : 1/13/2022 7:19 pm : link
1 - Joe Schoen
1a - Joe Hortiz

Head Coach:
1 - Brian Daboll
1a - Don Martindale
AcesUp : 1/13/2022 7:37 pm : link
1 - Hortiz/Flores - This just seems like the safest combo. Both are seasoned in different ways, Flores with his recent HC experience and Hortiz paying his dues in the best FO for over 20 years. This just seems like a solid combo.

1a - Peters/Josh McDaniels - This is your upside play. Peters appears to have the golden touch and comes from a smart organization. McDaniels has some red flags but he’s has some HC experience and has he consistent success with his offenses despite all sorts of different personnel and strengths. They would likely be a combo hire unlike the first choice.

You can probably put the Bills guys 1c.
The more I read about Daboll  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/13/2022 7:40 pm : link
The more I wonder if it would be a hard sell to management. According to Schraeger he is not cut from a typical head coach mold. A bit laid back rather than suit and tie and CEO.
1 Hortiz  
NoGainDayne : 1/13/2022 8:12 pm : link
1A Peters

1 Harbaugh

1A McDaniel
what does eric think  
jmalls23 : 1/13/2022 9:02 pm : link
that's whatI want to know
So none of the people picking Flores  
Snablats : 1/13/2022 10:10 pm : link
read the Miami Herald article detailing why he was fired. Treated people like crap, very power hungry, difficult to work with, many in Dolphins building didnt like him - including his QB

What new, first time GM is hiring Flores?
RE: RE: Ok  
djm : 1/13/2022 11:01 pm : link
In comment 15551877 Jay on the Island said:
In comment 15551776 Chris684 said:


GM: 1 Hortiz 1A Schoen

HC: 1 Harbaugh 1A Flores


Same again.
I’m all for  
GoDeep13 : 1/14/2022 9:07 am : link
A Hortiz/Harbaugh Pairing.
RE: I’m all for  
cokeduplt : 1/14/2022 11:55 am : link
In comment 15552532 GoDeep13 said:
A Hortiz/Harbaugh Pairing.

I would be too, sounds like Harbaugh is staying at Michigan though.
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