Who did you want to replace Fassel?

Thought Crennel was a mediocre assistant at best and never thought much of Weis.

I also wanted Robert Gallery or Sean Taylor in the draft.

Although I do remember BBI universally wanting Weis after 2006.

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Coughlin was my choice

wanted a defensive guy so I was hoping for Crennel. SO glad I was wrong on that one

Watched a decent amount of Jags games and thought he got the short hand of the stick with his firing.

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But if he was available I wanted Marty S.

had in jacksonville with a liitle known QB like Mark Brunell, then you take him.. If Vrabel is available, I'd take him in a heart beat right now..

In comment 15552083 chuckydee9 said:

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had in jacksonville with a liitle known QB like Mark Brunell, then you take him.. If Vrabel is available, I'd take him in a heart beat right now..

Coughlin should be in the HOF imo. Hope his recent stint with the Jags doesn't diminish what he accomplished here and in Jax the first time around.

...I know I wanted a defense focused coach. I forget who the hot ones were back then.

In comment 15552068 Eli2020 said:

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Watched a decent amount of Jags games and thought he got the short hand of the stick with his firing.

I don’t think the stick has a hand!

… Dick Jauron… Dennis Green… Wade Phillips…

Anyone but Coughlin. Hated that guy.

but my buddy and I thought we should make a play for Jimmy Johnson.

Very glad we went with Coughlin

enthralled with the offensive genius of Weis at the time. That star faded fast

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but my buddy and I thought we should make a play for Jimmy Johnson. Very glad we went with Coughlin

There was definitely rumors of Johnson at some points. I think it was a reaction to Parcells in Dallas (“they have our guy, let’s get theirs”) but it was definitely speculated for a little while.

Wanted Saban.

ridiculous in hindsight, but at the time there was a perception that Brady was more of a game manager than star QB and his success was due in large part to the Pats system and coaching. And Weis was viewed as the brains behind that system (BB was still sorta viewed as a defensive guru only). The fact that Weis had gotten a monster year out of Testaverde in 1998 didn't hurt his repuation either.

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Wanted Saban.

EA has gone on the record that he was not impressed by TC's interview.

for while. I'm going to guess that I was hoping for Schottenheimer because that seems like something I might have done, but I honestly have no clue.

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In comment 15552192 Lines of Scrimmage said: Quote: Wanted Saban. EA has gone on the record that he was not impressed by TC's interview.

He's on record of not liking Coughlin's long prepared statement. He said after that statement that the rest of the interview went well.

I was hung up that we lost him once already to jax. He seemed to me like the best available HC at the time.

I wanted Weis more because I thought he would turn Kerry Collins around into the player he was in 2002 or he would be a great asset to the QB that the Giants drafted.

was the other candidate that cycle. Supposedly had a good interview.

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In comment 15552192 Lines of Scrimmage said: Quote: Wanted Saban. EA has gone on the record that he was not impressed by TC's interview.

Because he wanted Saban.

who wouldn't want the guy who'd won Super Bowls with a 6th round draft pick and carried the offensive coaching load for a HC who was a defensive whiz but clueless about the other side of the ball?

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It sucked when Big Bill quit and Little Bill went the Cleveland.

At that point I wanted Coughlin, but no he went to BC and we were stuck with the original unnameable coach.

I think we are up to 3 unnameable coaches now, and one prize winning unnameable GM.

It was so obvious they were going to hire Coughlin and I thought he was a good fit actually. I wanted him.

I remember New York fans and media on the radio at the time who were saying they didn't want Coughlin because he was nuts or way too intense and everything else. The more they talked negative the more I believed he was exactly what we needed ... plus the number 4 overall pick. Exciting times.

I remember when he was here in '90 and I believe at one point we had tried to get him after Reeves? I may be wrong but he was pretty committed to BC and didn't want to leave.

I really liked what he did in Jacksonville. That team was really good.

was my choice. His defense was very good and he was extremely popular.

I wasn't crazy about him, but favored him over the other candidates that were interviewing him. That being said, I think I wanted him out after both 2006 and 2010. Fassel's teams had a tendency to start slow and finish strong, with Coughlin it was the opposite. A lot of 5-2 and 6-2 starts from 2004 through 2012 that finished anywhere from 6-10 to 10-6 (and 11-5 in 2005 followed by a 23-0 home playoff loss) and included the Super Bowl years (with 6-2 starts that finished 10-6 and 9-7).

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I remember when he was here in '90 and I believe at one point we had tried to get him after Reeves? I may be wrong but he was pretty committed to BC and didn't want to leave.

I believe this is correct. They tried to get him after year 2 at BC but he said he had not righted the ship yet and wanted to commit to that. Who knows if he saw some issues on the Giants that he did not want to contend with though. He always considered BP as a big mentor and Bill sparred a little with GY. After year 3 he bolted to Jax.

The EA/TC dynamic was pretty interesting. EA seemed not the biggest fan but in the end they worked well together. EA had already assembled some good talent and TC got him to invest in the OL more and build a more overall physical team. I do think TC had a lot of say his first two years as this was Wellington's HC.

Coughlin. Some of his rules are over the top bullshit. Be 5 min early, socks up, etc. etc. I think he unnecessarily alienated a lot of players with that stuff that really makes little difference. (BB has three basic rules: be on time, pay attention, work hard).

BUT, TC cares deeply, he cares about the right stuff big picture, and he’s an excellent coach in terms of strategy, and mostly game management (compared to what else we’ve had here).

I think when he started the leadership council and got out of his own way, he was tremendous. He successfully worked to build the OL, got mostly good coordinators, could be a great leader, and at their best the Giants didn’t beat themselves. That 2007 playoff run and SB wins were incredible.

I believe in the theory that the deeper into the playoffs you go, the more coaches matter. He took it the whole way, 2x vs BB. That’s some great work.

-Coughlin's Rules

In comment 15552439 Lines of Scrimmage said:

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In comment 15552411 Mayo2JZ said: Quote: I remember when he was here in '90 and I believe at one point we had tried to get him after Reeves? I may be wrong but he was pretty committed to BC and didn't want to leave. I believe this is correct. They tried to get him after year 2 at BC but he said he had not righted the ship yet and wanted to commit to that. Who knows if he saw some issues on the Giants that he did not want to contend with though. He always considered BP as a big mentor and Bill sparred a little with GY. After year 3 he bolted to Jax. The EA/TC dynamic was pretty interesting. EA seemed not the biggest fan but in the end they worked well together. EA had already assembled some good talent and TC got him to invest in the OL more and build a more overall physical team. I do think TC had a lot of say his first two years as this was Wellington's HC.

I think we tried to get TC BEFORE hiring Reeves, not after. When Reeves was fired, TC was in Jacksonville already.

After being turned down for interviews with Coughlin and Wannstadt (who didn't want to head coach in the same division as his good friend, Jimmy Johnson).

early on that Coughlin was going to be the coach, so what I thought didn't matter.

Old school, Boston College, they had tried to get him to coach here before; he was basically handed the job. Not that he was a bad choice in the end.

In comment 15552736 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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In comment 15552439 Lines of Scrimmage said: Quote: In comment 15552411 Mayo2JZ said: Quote: I remember when he was here in '90 and I believe at one point we had tried to get him after Reeves? I may be wrong but he was pretty committed to BC and didn't want to leave. I believe this is correct. They tried to get him after year 2 at BC but he said he had not righted the ship yet and wanted to commit to that. Who knows if he saw some issues on the Giants that he did not want to contend with though. He always considered BP as a big mentor and Bill sparred a little with GY. After year 3 he bolted to Jax. The EA/TC dynamic was pretty interesting. EA seemed not the biggest fan but in the end they worked well together. EA had already assembled some good talent and TC got him to invest in the OL more and build a more overall physical team. I do think TC had a lot of say his first two years as this was Wellington's HC. I think we tried to get TC BEFORE hiring Reeves, not after. When Reeves was fired, TC was in Jacksonville already.

Yes, TC had just finished his second year and he turned the Giants down. They hired Reeves and then TC left for Jax in '94 after his third year.

I leaned toward Crennel. I was not disappointed in Coughlin being hired, though.