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Saturday AFC Playoffs: Patriots at Bills

Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/15/2022 10:05 am
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My brain is telling me the Bills, but going against Belichick...  
Anakim : 1/15/2022 10:06 am : link
I can't. I'll go with the Patriots to beat the Bills.
Weather going to be a big factor in this game  
Rick in Dallas : 1/15/2022 10:14 am : link
Who is going to be able to run the ball.
Tackling in sub zero weather will be a big issue.
RE: My brain is telling me the Bills, but going against Belichick...  
Boatie Warrant : 1/15/2022 10:22 am : link
In comment 15553781 Anakim said:
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I can't. I'll go with the Patriots to beat the Bills.


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It was a very impressive performance by the Pats  
Bob from Massachusetts : 1/15/2022 10:24 am : link
to make the playoffs, but it ends here. Go Bills!
Bundle  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/15/2022 10:29 am : link
Up!
I hear tickets are.going cheap  
George from PA : 1/15/2022 10:51 am : link
The new Bills fans are not the same as the ones who fills the stadium in the early 90s
I'll be rooting for the Bills to go all the way  
Hammer : 1/15/2022 10:51 am : link
Their fanbase deserves a championship.
RE: I'll be rooting for the Bills to go all the way  
beatrixkiddo : 1/15/2022 10:54 am : link
In comment 15553833 Hammer said:
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Their fanbase deserves a championship.


Same here
All in on a 1st time champion  
George from PA : 1/15/2022 10:59 am : link
Bills, Titans, Cardinals and Bengals
I liked the way the Bills took care of business as the season  
Jimmy Googs : 1/15/2022 11:05 am : link
ended after that tough loss versus Tampa in OT.

Josh Allen had a nice game against New England to avenge an earlier loss even with a few of his better receivers out with Covid, they started running more effectively with Singletary and really leaned on their strong Defense to control games.

I like Buffalo to do more of the same today no matter the weather...
Let's see how Joe Schoen's  
Simms11 : 1/15/2022 11:08 am : link
team and Bruan Daboll's offense do.
RE: I liked the way the Bills took care of business as the season  
ColHowPepper : 1/15/2022 11:25 am : link
In comment 15553851 Jimmy Googs said:
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Josh Allen had a nice game against New England to avenge an earlier loss even with a few of his better receivers out with Covid, they started running more effectively with Singletary and really leaned on their strong Defense to control games.
I like Buffalo to do more of the same today no matter the weather...

Agree.

BB can't rely on the element of surprise as he did, craftily, in the teams' first meeting. Second, believe BB has done all he can do to scheme around Jones' limitations, and the book is out on that. Third, Bills are simply better.

Looking forward to a Playoff Game where the elements matter. This indoor horse sh_t at 70 degrees when it's ice and snow outside is for the birds.
Re: Re: Re I'll Be Rooting for the Bills  
clatterbuck : 1/15/2022 11:36 am : link
Me too. NY team. Great fan base. Go Bills.
RE: I hear tickets are.going cheap  
AcesUp : 1/15/2022 11:53 am : link
In comment 15553831 George from PA said:
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The new Bills fans are not the same as the ones who fills the stadium in the early 90s


A lot of Bills fans and ticket holders are from Canada. If they cross into the US they need to go to a facility to test to get back in. Costs like $200 and if they're negative they can't re-enter for 10 days. Protocols knee capped the fanbase, I wouldn't judge them.
*positive not negative  
AcesUp : 1/15/2022 12:00 pm : link
I'm not sure if what I posted is 100% right but it's what I've cobbled together from the Pat McAfee show and canadian bills fans on social. Basically its a pain in the ass, expensive and comes with a lot of risk to sit in sub freezing temps.
RE: I hear tickets are.going cheap  
BigBlueShock : 1/15/2022 12:18 pm : link
In comment 15553831 George from PA said:
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The new Bills fans are not the same as the ones who fills the stadium in the early 90s

This is stupid. There are already thousands of fans at the stadium tailgating. The game doesn’t start for another 8 hours and it’s 2 degrees out. You can rip on plenty of fan bases. Bills fans are not one of them. They are probably the most loyal fan base in the NFL
RE: RE: I hear tickets are.going cheap  
Steve L : 1/15/2022 12:43 pm : link
In comment 15553929 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 15553831 George from PA said:


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The new Bills fans are not the same as the ones who fills the stadium in the early 90s


This is stupid. There are already thousands of fans at the stadium tailgating. The game doesn’t start for another 8 hours and it’s 2 degrees out. You can rip on plenty of fan bases. Bills fans are not one of them. They are probably the most loyal fan base in the NFL


Tix are going cheap because it’s going to be -20 wind chill at kick off. That stadium will be 100% filled with rabid fans who couldn’t afford the Tix before but can now. Bills fans are incredibly loyal.
It's hard to not like  
rebel yell : 1/15/2022 12:45 pm : link
the Bills. They're an AFC team and pose no threat to us, their TV market (like Green Bay) is miniscule, their fan base is rabid and starved for a playoff victory, and Josh Allen is awesome. They're always the team I root for in the AFC. I really hope they win.
Changing of the guard.  
jc in c-ville : 1/15/2022 12:51 pm : link
It’s the Bills time now over NE. Don’t see a duplicate of earlier game in Buffalo. Allen runs for over 100 and looking at a 20-7 type of game.
Last game they played  
pjcas18 : 1/15/2022 1:16 pm : link
in BUF was in a driving wind storm and the Patriots passed the ball three times all game.

The Bills knew the Patriots planned to run the ball but could not stop them. The Patriots rushed for over 200 yards (and had just 19 yards passing).

I expect more of the same today and a Patriots W.
I was at SUNY Geneseo '90 -'94  
jpennyva : 1/15/2022 1:34 pm : link
So saw the Bills lose those four Super Bowls up close and the local fan base was absolutely devastated as you would imagine (of course the first time to our beloved Giants). It wasn't pretty to say the least. I think they go deep in the playoffs this year. I have no dog in the fight this year, except for teams I would like to see lose early (Dallas and Philly). I'm rooting to watch fun, quality football.
Like the Bills here  
Sammo85 : 1/15/2022 1:53 pm : link
They don’t have to do much than stick to their blueprint. I think Pats have bigger bill to climb. They’ll need to throw the ball more to win.
This is tough...  
Giantsince80 : 1/15/2022 1:59 pm : link
and it's because of defense. 1 and 2 this year facing off....

I'd give the game planning edge to Belichik, but I think the 3 pass game earlier this year has the Bills much more aware.

I think this will come down to Mac not making a mistake, and Allen doing something great.

I'd go Bill 17-10 unless the wind kicks up!!!
Ya, tix are going super cheap.  
BigBlueNH : 1/15/2022 5:24 pm : link
Wimpy Bills fans scared off by the cold. My son, a Pats fan, overpaid for his tix early in the week.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/15/2022 5:30 pm : link
I get toughen it out, but man...if I was a Bill fan, I'd sure as hell would prefer to watch it @ home or a bar instead of those conditions. But to each their own.
Very curious game...  
bw in dc : 1/15/2022 6:16 pm : link
I am rooting for the Pats. I'd like to see BB start making deep playoff runs without Brady.

But Jones bothers me. His arm strength looks very average. He's pushing the ball. It almost looks like he's changed his stroke since he left Bama. If I am Buffalo, I hope I can be more impactful in stopping the run and put the game in Jones's hands.

On the other hand, Allen is a great watch. The arm, size, physicality when he runs, competitiveness is awesome to watch. Ah...what could have been...
Let's see how Dabol plays it here....  
Simms11 : 1/15/2022 7:58 pm : link
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/15/2022 8:04 pm : link
Bills 17, Pats 14. My prediction.
Here's a preview of the 2022 Giants  
shadow_spinner0 : 1/15/2022 8:16 pm : link
offense
Anyone else's local network not coming up with a game?  
jgambrosio : 1/15/2022 8:18 pm : link
I've got audio but screen is pitch black
Man it looks cold!  
Simms11 : 1/15/2022 8:23 pm : link
. Green Bay-like cold
Wish we had a good TE  
Sammo85 : 1/15/2022 8:23 pm : link
Like Knox.
Our line couldn't have blocked like that,  
Pego61 : 1/15/2022 8:24 pm : link
our QB couldn't have thrown that ball, our TE couldn't have made that catch.

Otherwise, we're close...
Looked like he was throwing it away  
Simms11 : 1/15/2022 8:24 pm : link
And the TE just went up and snagged it, awesome
Allen  
Sammo85 : 1/15/2022 8:24 pm : link
has such a good feel for the pocket and buying time to throw on run, his mobility is a weapon because of that.
RE: Anyone else's local network not coming up with a game?  
Bergen346 : 1/15/2022 8:26 pm : link
In comment 15554679 jgambrosio said:
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I've got audio but screen is pitch black


Optimum?
RE: Anyone else's local network not coming up with a game?  
Keaton028 : 1/15/2022 8:27 pm : link
In comment 15554679 jgambrosio said:
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I've got audio but screen is pitch black



I stream off Reddit NFL Streams. Comes in good.
This could get ugly...  
bw in dc : 1/15/2022 8:29 pm : link
if New England doesn't do something here on offense.
Wow.  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/15/2022 8:32 pm : link
Big 3rd down conversion for NE.
WHOOF  
Anakim : 1/15/2022 8:32 pm : link
Terrible drop by Bolden
What a run by Jones.  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/15/2022 8:34 pm : link
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God, look how Mac Jones runs  
Anakim : 1/15/2022 8:34 pm : link
Makes Eli look athletic
Jones, MAC Jones looks like he knows how to  
Simms11 : 1/15/2022 8:34 pm : link
play this game!
Great pick.  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/15/2022 8:35 pm : link
This has been a fun game thus far.
Way too much air on that throw  
Anakim : 1/15/2022 8:35 pm : link
Gave Hyde ample time to come over and pick that off
Wow! Beautiful INT there!  
Simms11 : 1/15/2022 8:35 pm : link
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Nice throw Jones!  
Stan in LA : 1/15/2022 8:35 pm : link
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That’s one of the best ints  
UConn4523 : 1/15/2022 8:36 pm : link
you’ll ever see
Horrible throw...  
bw in dc : 1/15/2022 8:36 pm : link
Jones can't zip the ball. That should have been a TD.
If Allen is making that throw...  
bw in dc : 1/15/2022 8:37 pm : link
it's an easy TD.
Man do I miss those Eli throws to the TE......  
Simms11 : 1/15/2022 8:38 pm : link
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Man, the Pats...  
bw in dc : 1/15/2022 8:43 pm : link
are playing soft on D.
The Patriots' secondary sucks  
Anakim : 1/15/2022 8:44 pm : link
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I want a good TE  
Sammo85 : 1/15/2022 8:45 pm : link
On our team.
The route is on...  
bw in dc : 1/15/2022 8:45 pm : link
Allen is incredible.
If the pats done score  
UConn4523 : 1/15/2022 8:46 pm : link
they are looking at 21-0 soon enough
RE: The Patriots' secondary sucks  
bw in dc : 1/15/2022 8:46 pm : link
In comment 15554720 Anakim said:
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No pass rush. Allen is taking target practice.
i didn't want him at the time  
WahooGiant : 1/15/2022 8:46 pm : link
and it's not fair to say it now, but jesus christ, i wish we had allen instead of barkley.
If only the Pats had Derek Carr  
adamg : 1/15/2022 8:46 pm : link
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RE: I want a good TE  
GiantGrit : 1/15/2022 8:46 pm : link
In comment 15554721 Sammo85 said:
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On our team.


I want 2, throw in a LG-C-RG-RT and i’ll stop complaining as much
RE: i didn't want him at the time  
HomerJones45 : 1/15/2022 8:47 pm : link
In comment 15554725 WahooGiant said:
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and it's not fair to say it now, but jesus christ, i wish we had allen instead of barkley.
There was one player in the draft “touched by the hand of God” but it wasn’t the guy we got.
Pats are trying to keep Allen...  
bw in dc : 1/15/2022 8:48 pm : link
in the pocket. Just keeping lane integrity and dropping 7 to cover 5. But Allen is out-executing them.
Allen  
AcidTest : 1/15/2022 8:48 pm : link
looking very good. Playing big in a big game. Fantastic throw for the TD to Knox. The coverage by Phillips was actually quite good.
Is Mac Jones good enough to come back here?  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 1/15/2022 8:48 pm : link
I’m gonna say no, but it’s still early.
RE: i didn't want him at the time  
bw in dc : 1/15/2022 8:48 pm : link
In comment 15554725 WahooGiant said:
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and it's not fair to say it now, but jesus christ, i wish we had allen instead of barkley.


Gee, do you think?

Allen is a better runner than Barkley, too.
RE: Is Mac Jones good enough to come back here?  
UConn4523 : 1/15/2022 8:50 pm : link
In comment 15554733 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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I’m gonna say no, but it’s still early.


Likely not, doesn’t have the arm and the offense is built to pay with a lead.
......  
Route 9 : 1/15/2022 8:51 pm : link
What the fuck? 14-0? Snooze... No way Jones makes a comeback on Buffalo
RE: Pats are trying to keep Allen...  
Sammo85 : 1/15/2022 8:51 pm : link
In comment 15554730 bw in dc said:
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in the pocket. Just keeping lane integrity and dropping 7 to cover 5. But Allen is out-executing them.


And to be honest I don’t see Daboll calling anything fancy. This is elite QB play and talent level driving that.
Bills D committed to stop the run  
Rick in Dallas : 1/15/2022 8:52 pm : link
Playing 8 in the box. They want spars to throw the ball
Think you gotta go there  
dancing blue bear : 1/15/2022 8:55 pm : link
I’m not an analytics lunatic but pts are outmatched. They need some MO
If the Bills beat the Patriots 52-0  
Anakim : 1/15/2022 8:55 pm : link
Could Bob Kraft fire Belichick please? :D


JK
All those stats today  
uconn18 : 1/15/2022 8:55 pm : link
About Josh Allen being a bad QB in cold weather.

Just an example of some useless stats for a story.
That pick was a great defensive play  
dancing blue bear : 1/15/2022 8:57 pm : link
Not a bad throw. That throw had to be lollypopped in (russel wilson style) not zipped

The decision to go there may be debatable
RE: RE: Pats are trying to keep Allen...  
bw in dc : 1/15/2022 8:58 pm : link
In comment 15554738 Sammo85 said:
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in the pocket. Just keeping lane integrity and dropping 7 to cover 5. But Allen is out-executing them.



And to be honest I don’t see Daboll calling anything fancy. This is elite QB play and talent level driving that.


Agreed. The best call was the QB sneak on third and three inside the ten. Otherwise, this is Josh Allen showing elite skills.
New England...  
bw in dc : 1/15/2022 9:00 pm : link
is getting killed on the edge in their run defense.
RE: RE: RE: Pats are trying to keep Allen...  
dancing blue bear : 1/15/2022 9:01 pm : link
In comment 15554748 bw in dc said:
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In comment 15554730 bw in dc said:

Daboll may need to be more judicious running the qb. The object is to win 4 games. Not 1. That’s one of my concerns with daboll tho. Buffalo doesn’t run the ball well. Or maybe often


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in the pocket. Just keeping lane integrity and dropping 7 to cover 5. But Allen is out-executing them.



And to be honest I don’t see Daboll calling anything fancy. This is elite QB play and talent level driving that.



Agreed. The best call was the QB sneak on third and three inside the ten. Otherwise, this is Josh Allen showing elite skills.
Wow.  
AcidTest : 1/15/2022 9:01 pm : link
What a throw by Allen.
Allen playing out of his mind  
Producer : 1/15/2022 9:04 pm : link
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Allen...  
bw in dc : 1/15/2022 9:04 pm : link
is the most talented QB in the NFL.
Was really looking forward to this  
UConn4523 : 1/15/2022 9:04 pm : link
but this is looking to be over at the half
RE: Allen playing out of his mind  
bw in dc : 1/15/2022 9:04 pm : link
In comment 15554759 Producer said:
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Just Allen being Allen.
The Pats...  
bw in dc : 1/15/2022 9:06 pm : link
look shot already.
FIRE BELICHICK!!!  
Anakim : 1/15/2022 9:07 pm : link
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Route is on  
Producer : 1/15/2022 9:07 pm : link
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Breaking News  
Sammo85 : 1/15/2022 9:09 pm : link
Giants need a good QB if they ever hope to win again and get to playoffs.
Route  
adamg : 1/15/2022 9:10 pm : link
route
RE: Breaking News  
Producer : 1/15/2022 9:10 pm : link
In comment 15554771 Sammo85 said:
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Giants need a good QB if they ever hope to win again and get to playoffs.


You might get to the playoffs, but the probabilities tell you, you're likely not getting far without one.
Buffalo's built to beat KC. Next week will be very interesting  
Producer : 1/15/2022 9:13 pm : link
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RE: RE: Breaking News  
AcidTest : 1/15/2022 9:14 pm : link
In comment 15554773 Producer said:
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Giants need a good QB if they ever hope to win again and get to playoffs.



You might get to the playoffs, but the probabilities tell you, you're likely not getting far without one.


Agreed.
Watchng these playoff games really show me  
Chef : 1/15/2022 9:17 pm : link
how fucking terrible the Giants are...
Wheels coming off here for Mac  
Producer : 1/15/2022 9:18 pm : link
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RE: Watchng these playoff games really show me  
Producer : 1/15/2022 9:19 pm : link
In comment 15554782 Chef said:
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how fucking terrible the Giants are...


You didn't n÷ed today to know that. We got routed by terrible Bears and WFT.
RE: RE: Watchng these playoff games really show me  
lax counsel : 1/15/2022 9:21 pm : link
In comment 15554787 Producer said:
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how fucking terrible the Giants are...



You didn't n÷ed today to know that. We got routed by terrible Bears and WFT.


The reality that’s likely setting in is how terrible the Giants were with the sixth overall pick under center, forget XFL qualify qbs.
This is embarrassing for Belichick and the Patriots  
Anakim : 1/15/2022 9:23 pm : link
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Jealous of how good the Bills are.  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/15/2022 9:23 pm : link
Too bad we didn't draft Allen. UGH.
RE: Wheels coming off here for Mac  
bw in dc : 1/15/2022 9:23 pm : link
In comment 15554785 Producer said:
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He's young, but he has limited tools.
Pats  
Sammo85 : 1/15/2022 9:23 pm : link
Look ready to tap out. Almost like they don’t want to be there in elements.
I like this Bill's roster  
Simms11 : 1/15/2022 9:24 pm : link
If Schoen can build a roster like this, then damn.
RE: Buffalo's built to beat KC. Next week will be very interesting  
bw in dc : 1/15/2022 9:24 pm : link
In comment 15554774 Producer said:
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They are built to beat ANYBODY.
Buffalo added a bunch of speed to take on KC, but it's really showing  
Producer : 1/15/2022 9:25 pm : link
Up here.
RE: Pats  
bw in dc : 1/15/2022 9:26 pm : link
In comment 15554798 Sammo85 said:
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Look ready to tap out. Almost like they don’t want to be there in elements.


That D mailed it in on that third drive. They aren't tackling well, they are blowing assignments, and they have NO answers for Allen.
RE: Watchng these playoff games really show me  
jnoble : 1/15/2022 9:26 pm : link
In comment 15554782 Chef said:
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how fucking terrible the Giants are...


JFC guys, does every comment have to be referencing how bad the Giants are by comparison? The seasons over just concentrate on this game We know. We suck. We got it.
RE: Wheels coming off here for Mac  
Gmen88 : 1/15/2022 9:27 pm : link
In comment 15554785 Producer said:
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He's not good and never has been.
Allen is  
aka dbrny : 1/15/2022 9:28 pm : link
Just a pleasure to watch. Feels like it did when I saw big game Eli light up for the first time.
RE: Breaking News  
mfsd : 1/15/2022 9:30 pm : link
In comment 15554771 Sammo85 said:
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Giants need a good QB if they ever hope to win again and get to playoffs.


Amazing the difference a guy like Burrow or Allen makes. Not that we didn’t know that, but it’s on full display in todays games
RE: I like this Bill's roster  
bw in dc : 1/15/2022 9:30 pm : link
In comment 15554799 Simms11 said:
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If Schoen can build a roster like this, then damn.


This is Beane. He drafted Allen, traded for Diggs, etc.

Imagine if Tre'Davious White wasn't hurt.
This is...yikes  
Anakim : 1/15/2022 9:30 pm : link
Yeah, Daboll and Frazier are going to be His next season...
Omg  
Producer : 1/15/2022 9:30 pm : link
Statement game
This feels like 100-0...  
bw in dc : 1/15/2022 9:31 pm : link
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Pats finished  
Rick in Dallas : 1/15/2022 9:31 pm : link
Wow what an offensive explosion by Bills
No point in watching the 2nd half  
UConn4523 : 1/15/2022 9:31 pm : link
what a letdown. Pats look like a bottom tier team.
Great to see  
dlauster : 1/15/2022 9:32 pm : link
One NY team in the playoffs
Apparently...  
bw in dc : 1/15/2022 9:32 pm : link
an inordinate amount of laughter is being heard at the Brady residence in Tampa.
Belichick's "genius'  
Stan in LA : 1/15/2022 9:32 pm : link
Is on full display tonight!
RE: RE: I like this Bill's roster  
Simms11 : 1/15/2022 9:32 pm : link
In comment 15554815 bw in dc said:
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If Schoen can build a roster like this, then damn.



This is Beane. He drafted Allen, traded for Diggs, etc.

Imagine if Tre'Davious White wasn't hurt.


Have to think Schoen played a role in it. That's why he was interviewed
I guess BB is a terrible coach -  
BigBlueNH : 1/15/2022 9:32 pm : link
his team came out completely unprepared. I don't think they've played a worst half of football since he's been there.
Giants fans are excited for Daboll  
shadow_spinner0 : 1/15/2022 9:33 pm : link
he may be great but where are we getting Josh Allen quality at QB? You can have the best OL in football and not have a QB who can do the things Allen does. See many on twitter saying Giants should bite the bullet and draft Matt Corral to run this offense.
Dare  
AcidTest : 1/15/2022 9:33 pm : link
I say, that this game is OVER. Or to paraphrase Yogi Berra, "it got late pretty early out there.
RE: I guess BB is a terrible coach -  
shadow_spinner0 : 1/15/2022 9:35 pm : link
In comment 15554831 BigBlueNH said:
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his team came out completely unprepared. I don't think they've played a worst half of football since he's been there.

I saw SB 51, don't under estimate BB adjustments. They won't win because of talent deficiency (Brady) but I wouldn't
t be surprise if they give Bills a scare at least.
Singletary  
Simms : 1/15/2022 9:35 pm : link
A third round pick , what 74th overall... not from a big name school either. Yet we just had to draft Barkley as high as we did.... the knife continues to twist
RE: Giants fans are excited for Daboll  
Producer : 1/15/2022 9:35 pm : link
In comment 15554834 shadow_spinner0 said:
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he may be great but where are we getting Josh Allen quality at QB? You can have the best OL in football and not have a QB who can do the things Allen does. See many on twitter saying Giants should bite the bullet and draft Matt Corral to run this offense.


This is the question, for sure. It's a lot easier to race whwn you have a Ferrari.
Honestly, I give BB props for getting this Pats team to playoffs  
Rick in Dallas : 1/15/2022 9:35 pm : link
With a rookie QB.
RE: Giants fans are excited for Daboll  
bw in dc : 1/15/2022 9:36 pm : link
In comment 15554834 shadow_spinner0 said:
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he may be great but where are we getting Josh Allen quality at QB? You can have the best OL in football and not have a QB who can do the things Allen does. See many on twitter saying Giants should bite the bullet and draft Matt Corral to run this offense.


That's fair. It helps to have a transcendent player at QB.
Lol  
Route 9 : 1/15/2022 9:36 pm : link
Wow. New England. What a bunch of bitch asses. Way to go.
.... - ( New Window )
Conor Orr @ConorOrr  
sphinx : 1/15/2022 9:37 pm : link
Bill Belichick knowing his roster is a year away and then deceptively crafting a game plan that results in a significant loss to motivate his squad for next year when they are better equipped to compete is pure genius.
Is the OL important yes  
shadow_spinner0 : 1/15/2022 9:37 pm : link
is getting complimentary pieces important? Yes, but what is proven every year, you need a QB to win in the NFL. We can't wait for everything else to be prefect so a QB can thrive or wait years to prefect everything to finally grab a QB to thrive in. You need a great QB to put you over the top, some fans don't want to hear it but it's the truth. A QB is the most important position in football. We need a great one to win a SB, in todays NFL.
RE: Giants fans are excited for Daboll  
Mike in NY : 1/15/2022 9:37 pm : link
In comment 15554834 shadow_spinner0 said:
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he may be great but where are we getting Josh Allen quality at QB? You can have the best OL in football and not have a QB who can do the things Allen does. See many on twitter saying Giants should bite the bullet and draft Matt Corral to run this offense.


Corral is not Josh Allen. He is not built like that and if he plays that way he will run himself out of the league with injuries. That being said, there are tools there IF a coordinator can get him to play within his limits.
RE: Singletary  
bw in dc : 1/15/2022 9:38 pm : link
In comment 15554837 Simms said:
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A third round pick , what 74th overall... not from a big name school either. Yet we just had to draft Barkley as high as we did.... the knife continues to twist


Proving, once again, RBs are everywhere and drafting one in the lottery is a daft as it gets.
RE: Is the OL important yes  
bw in dc : 1/15/2022 9:40 pm : link
In comment 15554844 shadow_spinner0 said:
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A QB is the most important position in football. We need a great one to win a SB, in todays NFL.


Over half of BBI does not understand or accept that.

_________  
I am Ninja : 1/15/2022 9:42 pm : link
We dont score 27 points in a month. These fuckers score 27 ... in Antarctica ... in the playoffs ... against the patriots ... in a HALF.
“The Comeback”  
Leg of Theismann : 1/15/2022 9:45 pm : link
29 years ago in the wild card round right here in orchard park. Idk Let’s see if a little delayed karma is in store here 🤷🏼‍♂️ Haha
Link - ( New Window )
RE: Belichick's  
map7711 : 1/15/2022 9:46 pm : link
In comment 15554829 Stan in LA said:
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Is on full display tonight!


That guy is a fraud! Always knew he sucked. Lol.
You don't NEED a top QB to win a Super Bowl.  
BigBlueNH : 1/15/2022 9:48 pm : link
See Nick Foles, Joe Flacco, Trent Dilfer, the ghost of Peyton Manning. But it sure helps. IMO, there are maybe 5-6 great QBs in the league right now. I don't think they are the only teams with a shot over the next few years.
Phil Simms eyeglasses are disturbing  
MartyNJ1969 : 1/15/2022 9:48 pm : link
anyone else notice them
Too much is being made  
Leg of Theismann : 1/15/2022 9:49 pm : link
Of this early whistle in the Bengals game. When you watch it the whistle is blown literally milliseconds before Boyd caught the ball. Th DB “let up” because he was flat out beat and Burrow/Boyd made a hell of a play. If they’d forced a replay of down and Bengals ended up not scoring and losing the game it would’ve been way more controversial in my opinion. The whistle was a mistake but seriously it did not affect the outcome of the play the more you watch the replay.
RE: You don't NEED a top QB to win a Super Bowl.  
lax counsel : 1/15/2022 9:50 pm : link
In comment 15554860 BigBlueNH said:
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See Nick Foles, Joe Flacco, Trent Dilfer, the ghost of Peyton Manning. But it sure helps. IMO, there are maybe 5-6 great QBs in the league right now. I don't think they are the only teams with a shot over the next few years.


You don’t need it, but then you need an elite running game and defense to win. That being said, most of the qbs who win are in Canton, not Trent Dilfer. Of course the most recent Giants world championship was earned the on the back of a top 2 or 3 qb that year, with an awful running game and defense.
RE: Phil Simms eyeglasses are disturbing  
jnoble : 1/15/2022 9:52 pm : link
In comment 15554862 MartyNJ1969 said:
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anyone else notice them


He reminds me of the old South Park episode where Cartman got glasses and everybody was making fun of him lol
RE: Too much is being made  
bw in dc : 1/15/2022 9:55 pm : link
In comment 15554865 Leg of Theismann said:
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Of this early whistle in the Bengals game. When you watch it the whistle is blown literally milliseconds before Boyd caught the ball. Th DB “let up” because he was flat out beat and Burrow/Boyd made a hell of a play. If they’d forced a replay of down and Bengals ended up not scoring and losing the game it would’ve been way more controversial in my opinion. The whistle was a mistake but seriously it did not affect the outcome of the play the more you watch the replay.


Agreed. I think the DBs thought Burrow was out of bounds so they let up. It wasn't the whistle.
RE: Lol  
Anakim : 1/15/2022 10:01 pm : link
In comment 15554842 Route 9 said:
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Wow. New England. What a bunch of bitch asses. Way to go. .... - ( New Window )


Huh?
Never seen a BB defense play a worse game.  
BigBlueNH : 1/15/2022 10:06 pm : link
They are offering little resistance. Even when Bills are only running. Don't know what to make of it. They didn't suck this bad, and were actually carrying the team, during the regular season. Inexplicable.
That's a casual 50 air yard TD pass.  
Producer : 1/15/2022 10:08 pm : link
.
......  
Route 9 : 1/15/2022 10:08 pm : link
Buffalo just destroying these goofs
Hurts watching Allen spin it…  
lax counsel : 1/15/2022 10:08 pm : link
….
Makes me hopeful for the Giants  
UConn4523 : 1/15/2022 10:08 pm : link
!
RE: Never seen a BB defense play a worse game.  
Route 9 : 1/15/2022 10:09 pm : link
In comment 15554892 BigBlueNH said:
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They are offering little resistance. Even when Bills are only running. Don't know what to make of it. They didn't suck this bad, and were actually carrying the team, during the regular season. Inexplicable.


Super Bowl 52 is #1

No idea what the fuck they were doing that night. They didn't even sniff Nick Foles.
I wonder if the Bills will show any mercy  
bceagle05 : 1/15/2022 10:09 pm : link
or just run it up into the 50s.
WOW.......BB  
kcgiants : 1/15/2022 10:10 pm : link
On the other side of an ASS WHOOPING.
Guess he now knows how it feels.
RE: Makes me hopeful for the Giants  
lax counsel : 1/15/2022 10:10 pm : link
In comment 15554900 UConn4523 said:
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When they find their Josh Allen, agree.
...  
shadow_spinner0 : 1/15/2022 10:10 pm : link
I really don't think people appreciate just how special Josh Allen is from an athletic standpoint.

Daniel Jones can run fast in a straight line if you give him 10 yards to accelerate, but he doesn't make people miss and he's not throwing on the run. Would Jones do well in Daboll's offense? Or bit the bullet and draft Pickett or Corral?
RE: I wonder if the Bills will show any mercy  
guitarguybs12 : 1/15/2022 10:11 pm : link
In comment 15554903 bceagle05 said:
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or just run it up into the 50s.


they've got a lot of years worth of payback stored up so I'm sure they're going to keep on the gas
RE: ...  
lax counsel : 1/15/2022 10:13 pm : link
In comment 15554909 shadow_spinner0 said:
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I really don't think people appreciate just how special Josh Allen is from an athletic standpoint.

Daniel Jones can run fast in a straight line if you give him 10 yards to accelerate, but he doesn't make people miss and he's not throwing on the run. Would Jones do well in Daboll's offense? Or bit the bullet and draft Pickett or Corral?


Either might be it, but they better be damn sure they Pickett or Corral isn’t Allen or Herbert, because they can’t afford to miss on another talented qb.
BB doesn't get blown out in the playoffs often  
shadow_spinner0 : 1/15/2022 10:14 pm : link
Only other time I think was 2009 when he lost 33-14 to the Ravens.
RE: ...  
Producer : 1/15/2022 10:16 pm : link
In comment 15554909 shadow_spinner0 said:
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I really don't think people appreciate just how special Josh Allen is from an athletic standpoint.

Daniel Jones can run fast in a straight line if you give him 10 yards to accelerate, but he doesn't make people miss and he's not throwing on the run. Would Jones do well in Daboll's offense? Or bit the bullet and draft Pickett or Corral?


What makes you think we don't appreciate it. That's all we've been gushing about.

Maybe *you* didn't appreciate it, until tonight.

None of us thinks Daniel Jones is an NFL quarterback, much less, the guy who will step in for Josh Allen and be good.
RE: ...  
bw in dc : 1/15/2022 10:17 pm : link
In comment 15554909 shadow_spinner0 said:
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I really don't think people appreciate just how special Josh Allen is from an athletic standpoint.



It's unique. Daboll really deserves credit for working on Allen's mechanics and understanding the game. Along with Jordan Palmer and Ken Dorsey.

Allen's skills are so good he can run ANY offense.
Can't even imagine if we drafted Allen rather than Barkley.  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/15/2022 10:17 pm : link
That one stings.
Even more disappointing  
Ron Johnson : 1/15/2022 10:18 pm : link
For Little Bill is that he whiffeyon Mac Jones.
RE: RE: ...  
Producer : 1/15/2022 10:18 pm : link
In comment 15554915 lax counsel said:
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In comment 15554909 shadow_spinner0 said:


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I really don't think people appreciate just how special Josh Allen is from an athletic standpoint.

Daniel Jones can run fast in a straight line if you give him 10 yards to accelerate, but he doesn't make people miss and he's not throwing on the run. Would Jones do well in Daboll's offense? Or bit the bullet and draft Pickett or Corral?



Either might be it, but they better be damn sure they Pickett or Corral isn’t Allen or Herbert, because they can’t afford to miss on another talented qb.


Why can't they afford to miss? We're already in the shitter. Just pick another guy the next year. They must get an elite QB by any means necessary.
RE: RE: ...  
lax counsel : 1/15/2022 10:18 pm : link
In comment 15554921 bw in dc said:
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In comment 15554909 shadow_spinner0 said:


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I really don't think people appreciate just how special Josh Allen is from an athletic standpoint.





It's unique. Daboll really deserves credit for working on Allen's mechanics and understanding the game. Along with Jordan Palmer and Ken Dorsey.

Allen's skills are so good he can run ANY offense.


Spot on bw, spot on.
Whiffed on  
Ron Johnson : 1/15/2022 10:18 pm : link
Mac Jones
When in doubt...  
bw in dc : 1/15/2022 10:19 pm : link
draft the QB with exemplary physical skills.
RE: RE: RE: ...  
lax counsel : 1/15/2022 10:20 pm : link
In comment 15554924 Producer said:
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In comment 15554915 lax counsel said:


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In comment 15554909 shadow_spinner0 said:


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I really don't think people appreciate just how special Josh Allen is from an athletic standpoint.

Daniel Jones can run fast in a straight line if you give him 10 yards to accelerate, but he doesn't make people miss and he's not throwing on the run. Would Jones do well in Daboll's offense? Or bit the bullet and draft Pickett or Corral?



Either might be it, but they better be damn sure they Pickett or Corral isn’t Allen or Herbert, because they can’t afford to miss on another talented qb.



Why can't they afford to miss? We're already in the shitter. Just pick another guy the next year. They must get an elite QB by any means necessary.


At this point, if they miss again are we looking at a browns/lions/Jets type dry spell? I don’t know at this point?
RE: RE: RE: RE: ...  
Producer : 1/15/2022 10:22 pm : link
In comment 15554930 lax counsel said:
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I really don't think people appreciate just how special Josh Allen is from an athletic standpoint.

Daniel Jones can run fast in a straight line if you give him 10 yards to accelerate, but he doesn't make people miss and he's not throwing on the run. Would Jones do well in Daboll's offense? Or bit the bullet and draft Pickett or Corral?



Either might be it, but they better be damn sure they Pickett or Corral isn’t Allen or Herbert, because they can’t afford to miss on another talented qb.



Why can't they afford to miss? We're already in the shitter. Just pick another guy the next year. They must get an elite QB by any means necessary.



At this point, if they miss again are we looking at a browns/lions/Jets type dry spell? I don’t know at this point?

Only if we insist on giving a young QB three years when he hasn't earned it.

The Giants knew Herbert is great. We should have taken him. Then our QB situation would have been solved.
The dildo on the field was a nice  
bubba0825 : 1/15/2022 10:23 pm : link
Touch
RE: RE: Makes me hopeful for the Giants  
UConn4523 : 1/15/2022 10:23 pm : link
In comment 15554908 lax counsel said:
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When they find their Josh Allen, agree.


Was in reference to the Pats blowing ass.
RE: RE: RE: Makes me hopeful for the Giants  
lax counsel : 1/15/2022 10:25 pm : link
In comment 15554938 UConn4523 said:
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When they find their Josh Allen, agree.



Was in reference to the Pats blowing ass.


Missed that pint, my bad, but yes that as well. At this point BB is gonna head for the nearest exit.
The sequel  
bubba0825 : 1/15/2022 10:25 pm : link
The return of the dildo
Link - ( New Window )
......  
Route 9 : 1/15/2022 10:30 pm : link
LOL. Daniel Jones and the Giants are complete garbage compared to Allen and the Bills. Why are we even bothering? They're not even in the same galaxy.
The way this game is going  
Mkdaman1818 : 1/15/2022 10:32 pm : link
It might be time for Bill to step aside and McDaniels to take over, especially if Josh is going to get interest again in this cycle. If that’s the case, I wonder if we would be interested in Bill…
RE: The way this game is going  
UConn4523 : 1/15/2022 10:34 pm : link
In comment 15554945 Mkdaman1818 said:
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It might be time for Bill to step aside and McDaniels to take over, especially if Josh is going to get interest again in this cycle. If that’s the case, I wonder if we would be interested in Bill…


He doesn’t have 1 elite player on offense and arguably on defense either. Granted he’s the GM so that’s on him too but I don’t think this is a coaching issue. This pats team is one of the least talented teams in the playoffs. I’m guessing they are under .500 without Belichick.
Josh Allen...  
bw in dc : 1/15/2022 10:38 pm : link
wears blue and plays for a NY team.

Salt on the wound.
RE: RE: The way this game is going  
Mkdaman1818 : 1/15/2022 10:38 pm : link
In comment 15554947 UConn4523 said:
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It might be time for Bill to step aside and McDaniels to take over, especially if Josh is going to get interest again in this cycle. If that’s the case, I wonder if we would be interested in Bill…



He doesn’t have 1 elite player on offense and arguably on defense either. Granted he’s the GM so that’s on him too but I don’t think this is a coaching issue. This pats team is one of the least talented teams in the playoffs. I’m guessing they are under .500 without Belichick.


It’s not a coaching issue at all, but I’m not sure they want to let McDaniels get away, and he’s not gonna wait around forever. Feel like one of the two will leave and it’s not impossible to think the Pats would choose the younger guy who they basically promised the throne to a few years ago…
RE: Josh Allen...  
Producer : 1/15/2022 10:39 pm : link
In comment 15554950 bw in dc said:
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wears blue and plays for a NY team.

Salt on the wound.


At least he plays for Buffalo, and not Dallas, WFT, or Philly.
I know it's annoying for Jones/Allen comparison but here's a point  
shadow_spinner0 : 1/15/2022 10:40 pm : link
Madden attributes:
Jones: Speed - 85. Agility - 40

Allen: Speed - 82. Agility - 75

Jones is fast when he runs in a strait line. What he isn't is elusive and can scrambler.
RE: I know it's annoying for Jones/Allen comparison but here's a point  
Route 9 : 1/15/2022 10:41 pm : link
In comment 15554953 shadow_spinner0 said:
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Madden attributes:
Jones: Speed - 85. Agility - 40

Allen: Speed - 82. Agility - 75

Jones is fast when he runs in a strait line. What he isn't is elusive and can scrambler.


Jones runs like an idiot. Dives head first or stumbles like a goof (vs Eagles) or fumbles.
Mac Jones nd BB truthers with a big grin  
shadow_spinner0 : 1/15/2022 10:43 pm : link
No lets not diminish everything BB has accomplished, even if it's well known Brady was a bigger reason they won those SB's.
And no, lets not diminish the good season Jones had, even if we all know any of the top QB's would have had success with this team and had the same performance he had tonight.
RE: Josh Allen...  
lax counsel : 1/15/2022 10:45 pm : link
In comment 15554950 bw in dc said:
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wears blue and plays for a NY team.

Salt on the wound.


Part that hurts more is the Bills backup is better than any qb on the Giants current roster…
RE: RE: Josh Allen...  
AcidTest : 1/15/2022 10:48 pm : link
In comment 15554962 lax counsel said:
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wears blue and plays for a NY team.

Salt on the wound.



Part that hurts more is the Bills backup is better than any qb on the Giants current roster…


Former Giant Davis Webb might be better than any QB on the Giants roster.
Would this be the most points a BB defense has ever given up  
shadow_spinner0 : 1/15/2022 10:49 pm : link
in the playoffs? Eagles scored 41 in that SB.
RE: RE: I know it's annoying for Jones/Allen comparison but here's a point  
bw in dc : 1/15/2022 10:49 pm : link
In comment 15554957 Route 9 said:
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In comment 15554953 shadow_spinner0 said:


Jones runs like an idiot. Dives head first or stumbles like a goof (vs Eagles) or fumbles.


That was very funny.
The Bills punter...  
bw in dc : 1/15/2022 10:50 pm : link
may be the coldest player in the stadium.
Josh Allen's QBR...  
bw in dc : 1/15/2022 10:51 pm : link
might be 100 tonight.
RE: RE: RE: Josh Allen...  
lax counsel : 1/15/2022 10:52 pm : link
In comment 15554964 AcidTest said:
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wears blue and plays for a NY team.

Salt on the wound.



Part that hurts more is the Bills backup is better than any qb on the Giants current roster…



Former Giant Davis Webb might be better than any QB on the Giants roster.


You may be right and that hurts even more.
RE: The way this game is going  
Ned In Atlanta : 1/15/2022 10:52 pm : link
In comment 15554945 Mkdaman1818 said:
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It might be time for Bill to step aside and McDaniels to take over, especially if Josh is going to get interest again in this cycle. If that’s the case, I wonder if we would be interested in Bill…


After this game you think Bill would sign up to coach a cash strapped, talent bereft roster with a meddling owner?
I am truly enjoying  
montanagiant : 1/15/2022 10:59 pm : link
The prison rape the Bills are giving the Pats in this game
RE: RE: The way this game is going  
Mkdaman1818 : 1/15/2022 11:01 pm : link
In comment 15554977 Ned In Atlanta said:
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It might be time for Bill to step aside and McDaniels to take over, especially if Josh is going to get interest again in this cycle. If that’s the case, I wonder if we would be interested in Bill…



After this game you think Bill would sign up to coach a cash strapped, talent bereft roster with a meddling owner?


If he thinks he can reclaim the o-line, find guys on defense, and acquire a top QB? Plus Mara isn’t stupid enough to meddle if BB is running the ship
RE: I am truly enjoying  
jnoble : 1/15/2022 11:01 pm : link
In comment 15554986 montanagiant said:
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The prison rape the Bills are giving the Pats in this game

"Ridiculous. Completely ridiculous. You've all got a lot of growing up to do that's for sure. All of good mind to go to the warden about this. You know what hurts the most... well the second most after the other thing?... the lack of respect..."
This has to be incredible experience for Bills fans  
Greg from LI : 1/15/2022 11:02 pm : link
Not just beating the Patriots in the playoffs, but beating them like this? The team that has tormented them for two decades?
RE: This has to be incredible experience for Bills fans  
Producer : 1/15/2022 11:05 pm : link
In comment 15554991 Greg from LI said:
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Not just beating the Patriots in the playoffs, but beating them like this? The team that has tormented them for two decades?


For sure. A defining victory if they go all the way. Like our destruction of the 49ers in 86.
I've said it on more than one occasion on this board  
GeofromNJ : 1/15/2022 11:08 pm : link
Evidence that Gettleman was totally unfit to be GM is the fact that he passed on Allen and drafted Barkley. Allen would be wearing Giants blue if Gettleman knew his ass from a hole in the ground. The claim that Allen had accuracy issues and therefore should not be drafted high was ludicrous.
5 TDs, 4 incompletions  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 1/15/2022 11:12 pm : link
Just a massive performance by Allen.

Bills came ready to play. Pats had no chance.
RE: I've said it on more than one occasion on this board  
section125 : 1/15/2022 11:13 pm : link
In comment 15555002 GeofromNJ said:
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Evidence that Gettleman was totally unfit to be GM is the fact that he passed on Allen and drafted Barkley. Allen would be wearing Giants blue if Gettleman knew his ass from a hole in the ground. The claim that Allen had accuracy issues and therefore should not be drafted high was ludicrous.


Hindsight warrior...he was inaccurate. The bigger problem was with the teams that really needed a QB and went elsewhere.
Anyone take note that BB virtually snubbed  
ColHowPepper : 1/15/2022 11:18 pm : link
McDermott. They met at the middle of the field, touched hands, BB basically nodded and walked on past. At least that's what I saw. It was so quick it was easily missed.
I’ll take solace  
djm : 1/15/2022 11:19 pm : link
Knowing there is a legion of Boston pats fans out there that came crashing down to earth tonight. The pats best player is the HC.
RE: The sequel  
djm : 1/15/2022 11:23 pm : link
In comment 15554940 bubba0825 said:
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The return of the dildo Link - ( New Window )


Lol amazing
RE: I've said it on more than one occasion on this board  
bw in dc : 1/15/2022 11:24 pm : link
In comment 15555002 GeofromNJ said:
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Evidence that Gettleman was totally unfit to be GM is the fact that he passed on Allen and drafted Barkley. Allen would be wearing Giants blue if Gettleman knew his ass from a hole in the ground. The claim that Allen had accuracy issues and therefore should not be drafted high was ludicrous.


Gettleman passed on Allen, but his former Assistant GM in Carolina, Brandon Beane, who was hired as the Bills GM in 2017, wasted no time drafting Allen in that 2018 draft.

Fortunately for Buffalo, they lucked out and got the real General Manager talent out of Carolina.

Josh Allen was clearly the player that was touched by the hand of God  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/15/2022 11:25 pm : link
in that draft.
RE: RE: I've said it on more than one occasion on this board  
Jimmy Googs : 1/15/2022 11:28 pm : link
In comment 15555009 section125 said:
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Evidence that Gettleman was totally unfit to be GM is the fact that he passed on Allen and drafted Barkley. Allen would be wearing Giants blue if Gettleman knew his ass from a hole in the ground. The claim that Allen had accuracy issues and therefore should not be drafted high was ludicrous.



Hindsight warrior...he was inaccurate. The bigger problem was with the teams that really needed a QB and went elsewhere.


Gettleman missed on evaluating Eli, then proceeded to miss on evaluating Allen only to miss once again on evaluating Jones.

And this was all in about 15 months...impressive
RE: RE: RE: I've said it on more than one occasion on this board  
lax counsel : 1/15/2022 11:30 pm : link
In comment 15555028 Jimmy Googs said:
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In comment 15555002 GeofromNJ said:


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Evidence that Gettleman was totally unfit to be GM is the fact that he passed on Allen and drafted Barkley. Allen would be wearing Giants blue if Gettleman knew his ass from a hole in the ground. The claim that Allen had accuracy issues and therefore should not be drafted high was ludicrous.



Hindsight warrior...he was inaccurate. The bigger problem was with the teams that really needed a QB and went elsewhere.



Gettleman missed on evaluating Eli, then proceeded to miss on evaluating Allen only to miss once again on evaluating Jones.

And this was all in about 15 months...impressive



Pretty much what happens when the franchise and it’s lap dog GM are stuck competing with Mike Ditka and the 1985 bears.
Remember all the chuckleheads that wanted to debate Jones  
Jimmy Googs : 1/15/2022 11:34 pm : link
was going to be good in 2021 because Josh Allen really only became a good QB from his Year 2 to Year 3?

Great logic...
RE: This has to be incredible experience for Bills fans  
rsjem1979 : 1/15/2022 11:47 pm : link
In comment 15554991 Greg from LI said:
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Not just beating the Patriots in the playoffs, but beating them like this? The team that has tormented them for two decades?


It may not work out the same way, but I have to imagine in Buffalo this feels like Giants 49, 49ers 3.
RE: Remember all the chuckleheads that wanted to debate Jones  
bw in dc : 1/15/2022 11:52 pm : link
In comment 15555035 Jimmy Googs said:
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was going to be good in 2021 because Josh Allen really only became a good QB from his Year 2 to Year 3?

Great logic...


I miss those people.
The really sad part is I don't think Gettleman  
WillieYoung : 1/15/2022 11:52 pm : link
truely evaluated any of the quarterbacks in the 2018 class. He was convinced based on one game against Philadelphia that Eli could still function (and many on this Board agreed) when in the other 15 games Eli was awful. So he focused on the running back who was going to complete our offense. Then he refused to sign our only halfway decent offensive lineman Justin Pugh who'll be starting tomorrow for Arizona. And a clusterfuck of epic proportions was launched.
RE: RE: Remember all the chuckleheads that wanted to debate Jones  
Jimmy Googs : 1/15/2022 11:57 pm : link
In comment 15555051 bw in dc said:
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was going to be good in 2021 because Josh Allen really only became a good QB from his Year 2 to Year 3?

Great logic...



I miss those people.


Ryan is still here...a few other defenders as well
RE: Remember all the chuckleheads that wanted to debate Jones  
djm : 1/15/2022 11:57 pm : link
In comment 15555035 Jimmy Googs said:
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was going to be good in 2021 because Josh Allen really only became a good QB from his Year 2 to Year 3?

Great logic...


Are you saying qbs can’t progress from year two to year three? Allen was a great example of that. That’s not an outlandish take at all. Get over it already.
RE: The really sad part is I don't think Gettleman  
Jimmy Googs : 1/15/2022 11:58 pm : link
In comment 15555052 WillieYoung said:
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truely evaluated any of the quarterbacks in the 2018 class. He was convinced based on one game against Philadelphia that Eli could still function (and many on this Board agreed) when in the other 15 games Eli was awful. So he focused on the running back who was going to complete our offense. Then he refused to sign our only halfway decent offensive lineman Justin Pugh who'll be starting tomorrow for Arizona. And a clusterfuck of epic proportions was launched.


Yep
RE: The really sad part is I don't think Gettleman  
lax counsel : 1/15/2022 11:58 pm : link
In comment 15555052 WillieYoung said:
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truely evaluated any of the quarterbacks in the 2018 class. He was convinced based on one game against Philadelphia that Eli could still function (and many on this Board agreed) when in the other 15 games Eli was awful. So he focused on the running back who was going to complete our offense. Then he refused to sign our only halfway decent offensive lineman Justin Pugh who'll be starting tomorrow for Arizona. And a clusterfuck of epic proportions was launched.


Yep. That about sums it up. Of course, many of those on this board who told us we were all stupid have since run for the hills under the cover of negativity of this board…
RE: RE: Remember all the chuckleheads that wanted to debate Jones  
Jimmy Googs : 1/16/2022 12:01 am : link
In comment 15555056 djm said:
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was going to be good in 2021 because Josh Allen really only became a good QB from his Year 2 to Year 3?

Great logic...



Are you saying qbs can’t progress from year two to year three? Allen was a great example of that. That’s not an outlandish take at all. Get over it already.


So perfect. Your ears must be burning.

Yeah, that’s the real crux of my post and those silly debates and comparisons to Allen...good lord
RE: RE: Remember all the chuckleheads that wanted to debate Jones  
Go Terps : 1/16/2022 12:04 am : link
In comment 15555051 bw in dc said:
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was going to be good in 2021 because Josh Allen really only became a good QB from his Year 2 to Year 3?

Great logic...



I miss those people.


I don't.
Bills  
Simms : 1/16/2022 12:10 am : link
Not many teams would have been able to beat the Bills tonight.
RE: The really sad part is I don't think Gettleman  
Producer : 1/16/2022 12:14 am : link
In comment 15555052 WillieYoung said:
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truely evaluated any of the quarterbacks in the 2018 class. He was convinced based on one game against Philadelphia that Eli could still function (and many on this Board agreed) when in the other 15 games Eli was awful. So he focused on the running back who was going to complete our offense. Then he refused to sign our only halfway decent offensive lineman Justin Pugh who'll be starting tomorrow for Arizona. And a clusterfuck of epic proportions was launched.


Incredible. An NFL horror story.
RE: Bills  
prdave73 : 1/16/2022 12:48 am : link
In comment 15555066 Simms said:
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Not many teams would have been able to beat the Bills tonight.


Agree.. That offensive game plan was amazing. Almost as if they knew everything the Pats were going to do. Must be nice to have amazing coaches to game plan like that.. smh..
RE: I've said it on more than one occasion on this board  
Gruber : 1/16/2022 3:50 am : link
In comment 15555002 GeofromNJ said:
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Evidence that Gettleman was totally unfit to be GM is the fact that he passed on Allen and drafted Barkley. Allen would be wearing Giants blue if Gettleman knew his ass from a hole in the ground. The claim that Allen had accuracy issues and therefore should not be drafted high was ludicrous.


It was said of both Allen and Lamarr Jackson that they had accuracy issues, but Allen was also described pre-draft as "the most NFL-ready."
Gettleman blew it. Big time. Hindsight or not, we had the #2 pick and took a running back.
Mara had two choices  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/16/2022 7:59 am : link
after the Eli benching. Cut him or he was going to be the starting QB in 2018. He got shell-shocked with the blowback the first time and he chose the later imv.

People mention he heard what he wanted from Dave but the meeting with EA was "what should I do here?" imv. They went the direction they did but unless a PM/TB was in the draft they were not going that way.

Allen was not the most accurate. He also had a plate in his shoulder. So he was not the sure thing but word was Shurmer liked him. I liked him. I usually like size and arm talent but you could see he was a little all over with the ball.

Credit to him and those who worked with him. He really has grown. Really nice team they have. Still have to win three more to cash in. Not a easy task but certainly a team you can get behind.

That was a just a pure beat down by the Bills in all facets  
NYGgolfer : 1/16/2022 8:33 am : link
of the game. Don't often watch Buffalo play but for one or two times a year, but very impressed with their roster talent. Some players that you have heard of but far from household names that were not only contributing, but sticking it to the Patriots on both sides of the ball.

Put me in the camp of hiring Joe Schoen without question.
That was the type of game  
section125 : 1/16/2022 8:39 am : link
that often precedes a solid playoff run.

Belichick looked totally resigned to defeat last night while Allen looked totally dominant.
RE: Last game they played  
pjcas18 : 1/16/2022 8:59 am : link
In comment 15554023 pjcas18 said:
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in BUF was in a driving wind storm and the Patriots passed the ball three times all game.

The Bills knew the Patriots planned to run the ball but could not stop them. The Patriots rushed for over 200 yards (and had just 19 yards passing).

I expect more of the same today and a Patriots W.


Happy to be wrong on this....lol I use some reverse psychology on the Patriots in case people were not aware (though I did not expect anything this lopsided). Living up here in MA and not being a Pats fan can be brutal, especially when the Giants SB wins over the Pats are faded memories.
RE: RE: RE: Remember all the chuckleheads that wanted to debate Jones  
djm : 1/16/2022 11:49 am : link
In comment 15555061 Jimmy Googs said:
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In comment 15555035 Jimmy Googs said:


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was going to be good in 2021 because Josh Allen really only became a good QB from his Year 2 to Year 3?

Great logic...



Are you saying qbs can’t progress from year two to year three? Allen was a great example of that. That’s not an outlandish take at all. Get over it already.



So perfect. Your ears must be burning.

Yeah, that’s the real crux of my post and those silly debates and comparisons to Allen...good lord


Except no one ever necessarily compared jones to Allen as much as they said or hoped jones could develop in year 3 like so many qbs before him, Allen included, developed from year 2 to year 3.

Ears ringing? You guys talk this same shit on even fucking thread. I have no choice but to address it.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Remember all the chuckleheads that wanted to debate Jones  
Jimmy Googs : 1/16/2022 1:00 pm : link
In comment 15555423 djm said:
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In comment 15555056 djm said:


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In comment 15555035 Jimmy Googs said:


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was going to be good in 2021 because Josh Allen really only became a good QB from his Year 2 to Year 3?

Great logic...



Are you saying qbs can’t progress from year two to year three? Allen was a great example of that. That’s not an outlandish take at all. Get over it already.



So perfect. Your ears must be burning.

Yeah, that’s the real crux of my post and those silly debates and comparisons to Allen...good lord



Except no one ever necessarily compared jones to Allen as much as they said or hoped jones could develop in year 3 like so many qbs before him, Allen included, developed from year 2 to year 3.

Ears ringing? You guys talk this same shit on even fucking thread. I have no choice but to address it.


No one compared to Jones to Allen...are you joking? There were numerous threads/conversations as Jones defenders were grasping at anything they could to support their cause. Yes, plenty of conversation about Year 2 to 3 but a ton of conversations just comparing stats.

come on, man...

Memories for djm...  
Jimmy Googs : 1/16/2022 1:16 pm : link
https://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=610519&show_all=1

https://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=610788&show_all=1

https://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=606093&show_all=1



Fine  
djm : 1/16/2022 1:32 pm : link
Keep grinding
Heh heh heh  
Jimmy Googs : 1/16/2022 1:54 pm : link
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