After selection of GM and HC, the third most important issue for Giants is the status of QB heading forward.
The season's over yet no information about Jones' injury. Was it is a disk, vertabra, spinal stenosis? Just a "sprain"? Why the mystery? And, if it was bad enough to keep him out for 6 weeks, why was he working out and throwing? It doesn't add up.
Jones took the podium on Monday, and no one really asked what the specific injury was other than his timetable.
Don't see the big deal.
I am surprised at the lack of curiosity about the most important player on the team.
At the risk of being presumptuous, David Wilson made a legitimate bid at being an Olympic triple jumper, after being advised to never play football again.
I’m not sure participating in physical activity, like throwing the ball and running around, indicates he didn’t have a serious injury.
If he’s not cleared for contact for 7 more months, the doctors are obviously telling him getting hit poses a danger to his health until he’s completed healed.
I am surprised at the lack of curiosity about the most important player on the team.
The August reference did not suggest that is the earliest he would be cleared for contact. He was just referencing that August would be the first time physical contact would be needed.
I am surprised at the lack of curiosity about the most important player on the team.
I think there is a variety of injury that allows for normal physical activity, but that risks very serious consequences if you’re hit in the head or neck.
This, it is quite obvious that there is no benefit of telling anyone what Jones' status is.
If they want to trade for a QB, the other team would know they have the Giants over the barrel.
No news, is probably bad news for Jones.
I agree if you read the quote carefully, Jones seems to mean he’ll be cleared by the time there is contact, which is August. Some of the writers took it to mean not until August. Good observation.
That also implies he’s not cleared right now, nearly two months after his injury. Then add however long.
If a guy is told no contact because of a neck injury for 2-6 months say, that’s a serious injury.
If true.. then no 5th year.
Doc above (happy '22 to you, doc, nice to see you make an appearance) refers to possibility the injury might heal before August. I know nada, but healing, by itself as in tissue resting--soft tissue, hamstring or high ankle sprain, etc.--so it repairs by rest alone, I just don't know: does that pertains here? The neck is such a complex agglomeration of small bones/vertebrae, cartilage and some ligaments. If it is <<only>> in fact a neck 'strain', maybe that pertains to ligaments only and swelling is impinging on the nearby structures.
Obviously, this is just my nonsensical spit balling, but it doesn't add up. Not conspiracy but coverup.
Just like Jones being out there but on the shelf: is August a realistic time frame, or just notional?
Jones doesn’t expect doctors to clear him for contact until August, but his injury will not prevent him from training this offseason or from returning to action next season.
“I can do everything from a lifting, throwing, running standpoint. I’m not limited in those areas,” Jones said. “It is a process. I think it’s weeks, but it’s really irrelevant at this point because I don’t expect to be doing any contact.”
I think his point was that contact doesn't start until August and he expects to be cleared well before that.
as others said with no coach/gm to do a full media session on the state of the current roster I think it's just a comment that never got cleaned up.
Bingo....
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“I’m doing good, progressing,” Jones said, via Michael Eisen of the team website. “There’s a healing process that takes time, so trying to stay diligent with my rehab and treatment working with the guys here, but everything is going well and feel good.”
Jones doesn’t expect doctors to clear him for contact until August, but his injury will not prevent him from training this offseason or from returning to action next season.
“I can do everything from a lifting, throwing, running standpoint. I’m not limited in those areas,” Jones said. “It is a process. I think it’s weeks, but it’s really irrelevant at this point because I don’t expect to be doing any contact.”
I think his point was that contact doesn't start until August and he expects to be cleared well before that.
as others said with no coach/gm to do a full media session on the state of the current roster I think it's just a comment that never got cleaned up.
Basically, is it a problem if he's not cleared by April? No. Is it a problem if he's not cleared by August? Yeah
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“I’m doing good, progressing,” Jones said, via Michael Eisen of the team website. “There’s a healing process that takes time, so trying to stay diligent with my rehab and treatment working with the guys here, but everything is going well and feel good.”
Jones doesn’t expect doctors to clear him for contact until August, but his injury will not prevent him from training this offseason or from returning to action next season.
“I can do everything from a lifting, throwing, running standpoint. I’m not limited in those areas,” Jones said. “It is a process. I think it’s weeks, but it’s really irrelevant at this point because I don’t expect to be doing any contact.”
I think his point was that contact doesn't start until August and he expects to be cleared well before that.
as others said with no coach/gm to do a full media session on the state of the current roster I think it's just a comment that never got cleaned up.
I'm not sure how to interpret this any other way "Jones doesn’t expect doctors to clear him for contact until August".
The number of people who have no idea what HIPAA protections are is astounding lol HIPAA essentially means that doctors and healthcare companies can't discolse an individual patient's medical information without the patient's consent. It can be a little more complex than that, but that's really the gist of it.
HIPAA doesn't preclude anyone from asking anyone else about injuries, and it certainly doesn't mean a patient can't themselves divulge whatever they feel comfortable sharing.
So basically Garofalo or Stapleton or whoever are free to ask whoever they want whatever they want about DJs injury. DJ himself can reveal as much or as little as he wants, but his doctors or insurance company can't say anything without his consent.
(1) Find a trade partner who is willing to take the risk. I'll take basically anything as compensation.
(2) Or cut Jones at the most advantageous time and accelerate the cap hit.
I hate to be cold, but let Jones be some other team's problem heading into 2022.
This
Geez!
In comment 15553960 christian said:
What is absurd here is the idea that he’s not cleared for contact during a time when there is no contact. The next opportunity for contact is August. It’s not like there’s a spring game and the doctors have said he won’t be healed in time for that. Everybody’s going kind of crazy on the story and I think it is just that there is no contact opportunity until August.
comment 15553972 Spirit of '86 said:
I am surprised at the lack of curiosity about the most important player on the team.
In comment 15554423 VinegarPeppers said:
What is absurd here is the idea that he’s not cleared for contact during a time when there is no contact. The next opportunity for contact is August. It’s not like there’s a spring game and the doctors have said he won’t be healed in time for that. Everybody’s going kind of crazy on the story and I think it is just that there is no contact opportunity until August.
comment 15553972 Spirit of '86 said:
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His throwing the ball does suggest it is not serious but his not being cleared for contact until August suggests otherwise.
I am surprised at the lack of curiosity about the most important player on the team.
In comment 15554423 VinegarPeppers said:
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What is absurd here is the idea that he’s not cleared for contact during a time when there is no contact. The next opportunity for contact is August. It’s not like there’s a spring game and the doctors have said he won’t be healed in time for that. Everybody’s going kind of crazy on the story and I think it is just that there is no contact opportunity until August.
comment 15553972 Spirit of '86 said:
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His throwing the ball does suggest it is not serious but his not being cleared for contact until August suggests otherwise.
I am surprised at the lack of curiosity about the most important player on the team.
People are plenty interested but there is no chance we will get any clarity in the next 7-8 months