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Why no information on Daniel Jones' neck injury?

Spirit of '86 : 1/15/2022 12:29 pm
After selection of GM and HC, the third most important issue for Giants is the status of QB heading forward.
The season's over yet no information about Jones' injury. Was it is a disk, vertabra, spinal stenosis? Just a "sprain"? Why the mystery? And, if it was bad enough to keep him out for 6 weeks, why was he working out and throwing? It doesn't add up.

Not really sure there's any secrecy...  
bLiTz 2k : 1/15/2022 12:32 pm : link
The franchise currently doesn't have a GM or coaching staff...do you want the Giants ownership to release a statement detailing the players injury?

Jones took the podium on Monday, and no one really asked what the specific injury was other than his timetable.

Don't see the big deal.
 
christian : 1/15/2022 12:33 pm : link
Jones implied he won’t be cleared for contact until August.
Plus  
GeoMan999 : 1/15/2022 12:35 pm : link
There is no new news to report and will not be for a long time. His throwing the ball suggests it is not something that serious. It probably just needs time to get better, likely a few months.
if  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/15/2022 12:37 pm : link
his neck is screwed up, there is value in not telling the rest of the NFL before the draft.
contradiction  
Spirit of '86 : 1/15/2022 12:40 pm : link
His throwing the ball does suggest it is not serious but his not being cleared for contact until August suggests otherwise.
I am surprised at the lack of curiosity about the most important player on the team.
RE: …  
81_Great_Dane : 1/15/2022 12:40 pm : link
In comment 15553960 christian said:
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Jones implied he won’t be cleared for contact until August.
This seems worrisome to me. But what do I know?
RE: Plus  
christian : 1/15/2022 12:42 pm : link
In comment 15553962 GeoMan999 said:
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There is no new news to report and will not be for a long time. His throwing the ball suggests it is not something that serious. It probably just needs time to get better, likely a few months.


At the risk of being presumptuous, David Wilson made a legitimate bid at being an Olympic triple jumper, after being advised to never play football again.

I’m not sure participating in physical activity, like throwing the ball and running around, indicates he didn’t have a serious injury.

If he’s not cleared for contact for 7 more months, the doctors are obviously telling him getting hit poses a danger to his health until he’s completed healed.
RE: contradiction  
GeoMan999 : 1/15/2022 12:44 pm : link
In comment 15553972 Spirit of '86 said:
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His throwing the ball does suggest it is not serious but his not being cleared for contact until August suggests otherwise.
I am surprised at the lack of curiosity about the most important player on the team.


The August reference did not suggest that is the earliest he would be cleared for contact. He was just referencing that August would be the first time physical contact would be needed.
RE: contradiction  
christian : 1/15/2022 12:44 pm : link
In comment 15553972 Spirit of '86 said:
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His throwing the ball does suggest it is not serious but his not being cleared for contact until August suggests otherwise.
I am surprised at the lack of curiosity about the most important player on the team.


I think there is a variety of injury that allows for normal physical activity, but that risks very serious consequences if you’re hit in the head or neck.
Why?  
Bill in UT : 1/15/2022 12:45 pm : link
Because they're the Giants and they don't like giving out medical news on players. Maybe it's the same with other teams, idk
RE: if  
Jay on the Island : 1/15/2022 12:47 pm : link
In comment 15553964 Eric from BBI said:
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his neck is screwed up, there is value in not telling the rest of the NFL before the draft.

This, it is quite obvious that there is no benefit of telling anyone what Jones' status is.
Why give any info out?  
Giants73 : 1/15/2022 12:48 pm : link
If he is done, how does it help the Giants letting every team know they will most likely be taking a QB in the draft?

If they want to trade for a QB, the other team would know they have the Giants over the barrel.

No news, is probably bad news for Jones.
RE: RE: contradiction  
christian : 1/15/2022 12:50 pm : link
In comment 15553977 GeoMan999 said:
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The August reference did not suggest that is the earliest he would be cleared for contact. He was just referencing that August would be the first time physical contact would be needed.


I agree if you read the quote carefully, Jones seems to mean he’ll be cleared by the time there is contact, which is August. Some of the writers took it to mean not until August. Good observation.

That also implies he’s not cleared right now, nearly two months after his injury. Then add however long.

If a guy is told no contact because of a neck injury for 2-6 months say, that’s a serious injury.
IMO  
Danny Kanell : 1/15/2022 1:01 pm : link
I think the silence speaks volumes. If he’s going to be OK, they can just say it and still keep the league guessing at draft time based on performance. If they have serious concern, that’s where the advantage is to being quiet about it.
OP sounds dangerously close to suggesting there is a...  
Jimmy Googs : 1/15/2022 1:06 pm : link


It could heal in time (obviously) or  
Big Blue '56 : 1/15/2022 1:08 pm : link
we have another potential David Wilson, imv
RE: …  
Producer : 1/15/2022 1:19 pm : link
In comment 15553960 christian said:
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Jones implied he won’t be cleared for contact until August.


If true.. then no 5th year.
Any notion that because Jones was throwing on sideline  
ColHowPepper : 1/15/2022 1:33 pm : link
indicates his injury is not serious is just ludicrous, given the amount of time he missed, in addition to the lack of clarity on the injury.

Doc above (happy '22 to you, doc, nice to see you make an appearance) refers to possibility the injury might heal before August. I know nada, but healing, by itself as in tissue resting--soft tissue, hamstring or high ankle sprain, etc.--so it repairs by rest alone, I just don't know: does that pertains here? The neck is such a complex agglomeration of small bones/vertebrae, cartilage and some ligaments. If it is <<only>> in fact a neck 'strain', maybe that pertains to ligaments only and swelling is impinging on the nearby structures.

Obviously, this is just my nonsensical spit balling, but it doesn't add up. Not conspiracy but coverup.

Just like Jones being out there but on the shelf: is August a realistic time frame, or just notional?
im pretty sure there's a misunderstanding of what he said  
Eric on Li : 1/15/2022 1:42 pm : link
here's the full quote everyone took to me he won't be cleared until August, if you notice what the writers interpret in the 2nd paragraph is different from the quote says in the 3rd:

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“I’m doing good, progressing,” Jones said, via Michael Eisen of the team website. “There’s a healing process that takes time, so trying to stay diligent with my rehab and treatment working with the guys here, but everything is going well and feel good.”

Jones doesn’t expect doctors to clear him for contact until August, but his injury will not prevent him from training this offseason or from returning to action next season.

“I can do everything from a lifting, throwing, running standpoint. I’m not limited in those areas,” Jones said. “It is a process. I think it’s weeks, but it’s really irrelevant at this point because I don’t expect to be doing any contact.”


I think his point was that contact doesn't start until August and he expects to be cleared well before that.

as others said with no coach/gm to do a full media session on the state of the current roster I think it's just a comment that never got cleaned up.
Not needing surgery is huge  
Mondo : 1/15/2022 1:56 pm : link
That means as long as nothing is disturbed (contact) it will heal.
He's  
Beer Man : 1/15/2022 2:12 pm : link
been ruled out for this week.
RE: if  
cpgiants : 1/15/2022 2:26 pm : link
In comment 15553964 Eric from BBI said:
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his neck is screwed up, there is value in not telling the rest of the NFL before the draft.


Bingo....
Why no information on Daniel Jones' neck injury?  
David B. : 1/15/2022 2:43 pm : link
HIPAA?
RE: im pretty sure there's a misunderstanding of what he said  
Scooter185 : 1/15/2022 2:44 pm : link
In comment 15554049 Eric on Li said:
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here's the full quote everyone took to me he won't be cleared until August, if you notice what the writers interpret in the 2nd paragraph is different from the quote says in the 3rd:



Quote:


“I’m doing good, progressing,” Jones said, via Michael Eisen of the team website. “There’s a healing process that takes time, so trying to stay diligent with my rehab and treatment working with the guys here, but everything is going well and feel good.”

Jones doesn’t expect doctors to clear him for contact until August, but his injury will not prevent him from training this offseason or from returning to action next season.

“I can do everything from a lifting, throwing, running standpoint. I’m not limited in those areas,” Jones said. “It is a process. I think it’s weeks, but it’s really irrelevant at this point because I don’t expect to be doing any contact.”



I think his point was that contact doesn't start until August and he expects to be cleared well before that.

as others said with no coach/gm to do a full media session on the state of the current roster I think it's just a comment that never got cleaned up.


Basically, is it a problem if he's not cleared by April? No. Is it a problem if he's not cleared by August? Yeah
Chess  
Giants : 1/15/2022 2:55 pm : link
It would be great if the Giants were playing a good game of Chess. Just like they have fans trying to figure this out. The Giants know picking at 5 does not mean they are going to be able to get Neal or whoever they think is the best OL. So now they have GM who are looking for QB early in draft. Trying to jump ahead of them. Giving the Giants a better chance of getting their OL
Everybody on Daniel's HIPAA list.....  
MOOPS : 1/15/2022 3:22 pm : link
please raise your hands.
RE: im pretty sure there's a misunderstanding of what he said  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/15/2022 3:48 pm : link
In comment 15554049 Eric on Li said:
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here's the full quote everyone took to me he won't be cleared until August, if you notice what the writers interpret in the 2nd paragraph is different from the quote says in the 3rd:



Quote:


“I’m doing good, progressing,” Jones said, via Michael Eisen of the team website. “There’s a healing process that takes time, so trying to stay diligent with my rehab and treatment working with the guys here, but everything is going well and feel good.”

Jones doesn’t expect doctors to clear him for contact until August, but his injury will not prevent him from training this offseason or from returning to action next season.

“I can do everything from a lifting, throwing, running standpoint. I’m not limited in those areas,” Jones said. “It is a process. I think it’s weeks, but it’s really irrelevant at this point because I don’t expect to be doing any contact.”



I think his point was that contact doesn't start until August and he expects to be cleared well before that.

as others said with no coach/gm to do a full media session on the state of the current roster I think it's just a comment that never got cleaned up.


I'm not sure how to interpret this any other way "Jones doesn’t expect doctors to clear him for contact until August".
RE: Why no information on Daniel Jones' neck injury?  
Cap'n Bluebeard : 1/15/2022 4:01 pm : link
In comment 15554128 David B. said:
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HIPAA?


The number of people who have no idea what HIPAA protections are is astounding lol HIPAA essentially means that doctors and healthcare companies can't discolse an individual patient's medical information without the patient's consent. It can be a little more complex than that, but that's really the gist of it.

HIPAA doesn't preclude anyone from asking anyone else about injuries, and it certainly doesn't mean a patient can't themselves divulge whatever they feel comfortable sharing.

So basically Garofalo or Stapleton or whoever are free to ask whoever they want whatever they want about DJs injury. DJ himself can reveal as much or as little as he wants, but his doctors or insurance company can't say anything without his consent.
Eric is correct  
JonC : 1/15/2022 4:02 pm : link
There's nothing to be gained by sharing, what fans want to know means fuck all in this situation.
I really hope the new GM...  
bw in dc : 1/15/2022 4:06 pm : link
quickly ascertains he has two moves with Jones that make the most sense:

(1) Find a trade partner who is willing to take the risk. I'll take basically anything as compensation.
(2) Or cut Jones at the most advantageous time and accelerate the cap hit.

I hate to be cold, but let Jones be some other team's problem heading into 2022.
RE: if  
sb from NYT Forum : 1/15/2022 4:17 pm : link
In comment 15553964 Eric from BBI said:
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his neck is screwed up, there is value in not telling the rest of the NFL before the draft.


This
So he’s definitely not cleared for the spring game?  
VinegarPeppers : 1/15/2022 5:55 pm : link
You guys have this wrong. He doesn’t have an opportunity for contact until August. They’re not saying that he’s not cleared for contact in April or May or June because there is no contact in February or March or April May or June or July.
Geez!

In comment 15553960 christian said:
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Jones implied he won’t be cleared for contact until August.
RE: contradiction  
VinegarPeppers : 1/15/2022 5:57 pm : link

What is absurd here is the idea that he’s not cleared for contact during a time when there is no contact. The next opportunity for contact is August. It’s not like there’s a spring game and the doctors have said he won’t be healed in time for that. Everybody’s going kind of crazy on the story and I think it is just that there is no contact opportunity until August.


comment 15553972 Spirit of '86 said:
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His throwing the ball does suggest it is not serious but his not being cleared for contact until August suggests otherwise.
I am surprised at the lack of curiosity about the most important player on the team.
No reason to stick his neck out.  
Pete in MD : 1/15/2022 9:08 pm : link
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He's got a neck  
Marty in Albany : 1/16/2022 12:14 am : link
--Tom Coughlin
RE: RE: contradiction  
Spirit of '86 : 1/16/2022 12:34 am : link
What's odd to me is that no one seems interested in what the injury actually is. We know what Gates and Martinez' injuries are, but not the QB.
In comment 15554423 VinegarPeppers said:
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What is absurd here is the idea that he’s not cleared for contact during a time when there is no contact. The next opportunity for contact is August. It’s not like there’s a spring game and the doctors have said he won’t be healed in time for that. Everybody’s going kind of crazy on the story and I think it is just that there is no contact opportunity until August.


comment 15553972 Spirit of '86 said:


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His throwing the ball does suggest it is not serious but his not being cleared for contact until August suggests otherwise.
I am surprised at the lack of curiosity about the most important player on the team.

RE: RE: RE: contradiction  
ron mexico : 1/16/2022 7:25 am : link
In comment 15555076 Spirit of '86 said:
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What's odd to me is that no one seems interested in what the injury actually is. We know what Gates and Martinez' injuries are, but not the QB.
In comment 15554423 VinegarPeppers said:


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What is absurd here is the idea that he’s not cleared for contact during a time when there is no contact. The next opportunity for contact is August. It’s not like there’s a spring game and the doctors have said he won’t be healed in time for that. Everybody’s going kind of crazy on the story and I think it is just that there is no contact opportunity until August.


comment 15553972 Spirit of '86 said:


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His throwing the ball does suggest it is not serious but his not being cleared for contact until August suggests otherwise.
I am surprised at the lack of curiosity about the most important player on the team.





People are plenty interested but there is no chance we will get any clarity in the next 7-8 months

There is nothing wrong with Jones he just took a vacation  
Debaser : 1/16/2022 8:28 am : link
I just suspect Mara thought Jones and Judge would be back next year so why risk Jones getting injured in meaningless games behind a horrible o line. And further that he should be given the benefit of the doubt given the line and injuries. All that changed when Judge had a melt down. So now Mara will have to entertain new coach/GM wanting their own QB.
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