So we all hate him and want nothing to do with him. I’ve been thinking about it he is a good coach, won a super bowl with Foles etc. We should definitely consider him. I’m sure Dallas fans hated Parcells but they were happy when he was the coach. I know he’s not Parcells but he might legitimately be the best head coach candidate out there.
There hasn’t.
Nope. Eventually there will be one though.
This is a good point. Reich has been a solid head coach, should’ve never traded for Wentz though.
He might be right but things came together with Eagles too. Lot of roster talent and depth on both sides of ball.
If Reich doesn’t win into playoffs next year he’ll be out of job in Indy himself.
I don't buy that for a second. Pederson knew that he was going to be fired and had he received that order from the FO there is absolutely no benefit to him following that order. He would have mentioned it after being fired.
But I'll stick to the process and trust the GM to make the call.
Sean Payton?
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I’m not a fan of visor head coaches.
Sean Payton?
Ha, I was jk but I guess you’re right come to think of it.
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I’m not a fan of visor head coaches.
Yes I know, lots of coaches have worn visors at one time or another. I was making a joke about Pederson who always wears them.
St. Albans, if your Pederson, you say NO just like Parcells, Coughlin and most others would. If fired, he’d have been snapped up in a nanosecond
They weren't happy with his game management at all.
He benefited from a rather weak NFC in 2017 and implementing the RPO (via Reich) which took the league by surprise. That's not to say the didn't have talent.
Subsequent years he benefited from playing the Skins and Giants to squeak into the playoffs.
I'd have a ton of questions about his ability to succeed here.
There has to be many NFL players that care about winning and don't want to be scolded by a coach that had openly and deliberately coached his team to lose the game.
Any FA player why would they want to play for a coach that is okay deliberately coaching his team to lose?
Anytime a coach deliberately coaches his team to lose, he becomes a complete loser. If the Giants are done again after week 12 what's to stop him from doing the same shit he did with Philly? Why wouldn't it be on the back of his player's minds?
The guy is a loser now. You coach to deliberately lose- you are a loser. You never want to see a player quit, but it's okay for a coach to do it while their were playoff implications for other teams? It would be nonsense to consider him.
Has there been a coach who won a SB and then took another team to a SB even without winning again?
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has there been an NFL coach to win a SuperBowl with two different teams AS A HEAD COACH? I’m not saying this should deter a candidate but was drawing a blank.
Now that I think about it, the list of coaches who have taken 2 teams to the SB is pretty short.
Thank you Mrs. Pederson. Your husband is a loser.
[quote] In comment 15555254 Drewcon40 said:
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has there been an NFL coach to win a SuperBowl with two different teams AS A HEAD COACH? I’m not saying this should deter a candidate but was drawing a blank.
Now that I think about it, the list of coaches who have taken 2 teams to the SB is pretty short.
Parcells and Holgremn
Character
It’s just emotions
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[quote] In comment 15555254 Drewcon40 said:
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has there been an NFL coach to win a SuperBowl with two different teams AS A HEAD COACH? I’m not saying this should deter a candidate but was drawing a blank.
Now that I think about it, the list of coaches who have taken 2 teams to the SB is pretty short.
Parcells and Holgremn
Shula and Reid as well.
I guess Craig Carton was right. I can't believe people give a shit about that completely irrelevant coaching move.
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I could live with that. It's that he intentionally tried to lose a game. I want a winner. I want a guy who will do anything it takes to win. I don't want a guy who will play Nate fucking Sudfeld and then pretend like he wasn't trying to throw the game.
I guess Craig Carton was right. I can't believe people give a shit about that completely irrelevant coaching move.
Some of us do. It meant the playoffs and that’s always the bottom line, at least for me
Right. It's typical BBI practicing the art of being dumb.
We're willing to roll the dice two years ago for a guy who never was a HC and was on the brink of becoming the HC for Mississippi State. But we don't want to hire a SB winning coach who went to the playoffs 3 of 5 years at the helm.
Every day we are reminded here that NYG fans are clearly not the brightest fans in the NFL.
If only Pederson grew up in New Jersey and went to Boston College or Princeton. And was an avid NYG fan growing up.
I'm not sure about Pederson, but I'd give him an interview.
Pederson was a Super Bowl, and did it with his backup QB no less so that has to count for something.
Giants fans that don't like him because he wears a visor and the Philly decision last year kept us out of playoffs is short-sighted. The Giants kept themselves out of playoffs by losing 3 of the last 4 and losing control of their own destiny.
Bring him in for a little chat and let Chris Mara decide...
What Pederson did was take advantage of a great situation and closed the deal. He deserves a ton of credit for that. I would not expect the same great fortune next time but he certainly warrants the chance. Many coaches also had great situations and never reached the heights he did.
I had the misfortune of being in the Philly market during some of his tenure.
My opinion, he is a goober. Reich was the brains of that operation. After that he coasted on the strong Oline, and weak division. Never a real contender after FR left.
The game management stuff is sometimes over rated by fans. Truthfully most fan bases are irate at a decision the HC made every monday morning. That said, some of the shit I saw him do in game was staggeringly stupid. He will be reviled by fans faster then most of our coaches.
The firing was not over that game. He lost a power struggle with Howie, who was telling him he had to fire staff and replace with guys on a short list.
As for the FO telling him to lose games, the dolphins FO told Flores to tank for Tua. he refused
We need to be very very careful about turning our backs on the most accomplished and viable HC (assuming harbaugh is out) available solely because of one really weird game. A game still shrouded in mystery I might add. We don’t even know what really happened behind the scenes.
I had the misfortune of being in the Philly market during some of his tenure.
My opinion, he is a goober. Reich was the brains of that operation. After that he coasted on the strong Oline, and weak division. Never a real contender after FR left.
It's one thing to watch the games. It's another thing to understand it. Those Philly teams went 9-7 both years after winning the SB and made the playoffs. And they were ravaged by injuries each year. From decimated secondaries, decimated WR corps, decimated OLs to injuries to Wentz, Pederson kept that team on the rails and figured it out. He deserves a ton of credit for his work.
He could’ve shown some backbone and character and said no. He ended up alienating his locker room doing exactly what he did, and lost his job anyway.
I’m sure if he said no, it would have impressed players and teams league wide, and would’ve been a plus on his resume going forward. Instead it’s a bit of a black cloud following him around.
I’m sure if he said no, it would have impressed players and teams league wide, and would’ve been a plus on his resume going forward. Instead it’s a bit of a black cloud following him around.
He's getting interviews for HC jobs in the NFL. And seems to be one of the favorites for the Chicago and Minnesota openings. So the black cloud is likely the imagination of NYG fans.
Nope