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Doug Pederson

cokeduplt : 1/16/2022 10:05 am
So we all hate him and want nothing to do with him. I’ve been thinking about it he is a good coach, won a super bowl with Foles etc. We should definitely consider him. I’m sure Dallas fans hated Parcells but they were happy when he was the coach. I know he’s not Parcells but he might legitimately be the best head coach candidate out there.
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RE: RE: RE: Again, it was the front office making that decision  
Eman11 : 1/16/2022 1:56 pm : link
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I’m sure if he said no, it would have impressed players and teams league wide, and would’ve been a plus on his resume going forward. Instead it’s a bit of a black cloud following him around.



He's getting interviews for HC jobs in the NFL. And seems to be one of the favorites for the Chicago and Minnesota openings. So the black cloud is likely the imagination of NYG fans.


Well if that’s true let’s see what FA players will go where he is. I know money is always the number 1 factor but all things being equal, I’d bet more than most would go elsewhere.
RE: I don’t understand why throwing a game in 2020  
giantstock : 1/16/2022 2:07 pm : link
In comment 15555378 cosmicj said:
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Has any relevance to whether the Giants should hire Pederson.


Maybe because you are a quitter too and you can care less when players and coaches quit?

And apparently if you were na elite athlete and worked your ass off your whole life to make it to the top of professional sports, you would be okay being scolded by not running hard on a particular play from someone like a fat out-of-shape coach who knowingly threw a game for his team?

He stopped being "good" once Reich left  
widmerseyebrow : 1/16/2022 2:17 pm : link
Oh yea, and fuck Philly with a hot poker.
RE: RE: RE: Again, it was the front office making that decision  
giantstock : 1/16/2022 2:19 pm : link
In comment 15555584 bw in dc said:
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I’m sure if he said no, it would have impressed players and teams league wide, and would’ve been a plus on his resume going forward. Instead it’s a bit of a black cloud following him around.



He's getting interviews for HC jobs in the NFL. And seems to be one of the favorites for the Chicago and Minnesota openings. So the black cloud is likely the imagination of NYG fans.


So by your logic because "The Mighty Bears and Vikings" are interviewing him it means Pederson is on his way for great success.

This is typical of your way of thinking. You don';t seem to give a fuck either about potentially Watson being a serial sexual assault predator.

You don't give a fuck about fans, coaches and players having to endure your philosophy of getting QB's every year every other year. There's only 1 important person in football with you that's the QB and fuck everyone else.

You're such a high character guy, aren't you?
anyone with a brain  
Dave on the UWS : 1/16/2022 2:19 pm : link
should have no problem with Peterson as HC. Whether he's the best fit, that's up to the new GM. But as a fan, no issue.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Again, it was the front office making that decision  
bw in dc : 1/16/2022 2:45 pm : link
In comment 15555646 giantstock said:
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So by your logic because "The Mighty Bears and Vikings" are interviewing him it means Pederson is on his way for great success.

This is typical of your way of thinking. You don';t seem to give a fuck either about potentially Watson being a serial sexual assault predator.

You don't give a fuck about fans, coaches and players having to endure your philosophy of getting QB's every year every other year. There's only 1 important person in football with you that's the QB and fuck everyone else.

You're such a high character guy, aren't you?


Who said anything about Pederson's future success? The point is there is demand for Pederson to be the HC.

What does Watson have to do with this? Where did I ever mention support for Watson and his legal issues?

I have no comment about your diatribe on my QB philosophy. Just another red herring out of your keyboard.

Just out of curiosity, are you an LT fan?
RE: anyone with a brain  
bw in dc : 1/16/2022 2:46 pm : link
In comment 15555647 Dave on the UWS said:
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should have no problem with Peterson as HC. Whether he's the best fit, that's up to the new GM. But as a fan, no issue.


Pederson is another IQ test for NYG fans. And many are failing.
So far the anti Pederson arguments look like total nonsense  
cosmicj : 1/16/2022 2:57 pm : link
The only good one seems to be that he relied on Reich and his other staff. His Eagles teams sure did have some good coordinators. Is that an argument for Pederson?
RE: anyone with a brain  
cosmicj : 1/16/2022 2:58 pm : link
In comment 15555647 Dave on the UWS said:
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should have no problem with Peterson as HC. Whether he's the best fit, that's up to the new GM. But as a fan, no issue.


+1
RE: RE: anyone with a brain  
Eman11 : 1/16/2022 3:07 pm : link
In comment 15555719 bw in dc said:
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In comment 15555647 Dave on the UWS said:


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should have no problem with Peterson as HC. Whether he's the best fit, that's up to the new GM. But as a fan, no issue.



Pederson is another IQ test for NYG fans. And many are failing.


Living in South Jersey I watched a lot of Eagle games when the Giants weren’t playing, and he made a lot of questionable game decisions. A lot.

Yes, some worked but plenty didn’t and they were all still questionable and had me scratching my head why he made them.

While I’m not a Mensa member, I do have a pretty decent IQ, and I’ve watched decades of football to know a questionable decision when I see one.

He’s not a HC I’d want that’s for sure.
RE: So far the anti Pederson arguments look like total nonsense  
dancing blue bear : 1/16/2022 3:31 pm : link
In comment 15555738 cosmicj said:
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The only good one seems to be that he relied on Reich and his other staff. His Eagles teams sure did have some good coordinators. Is that an argument for Pederson?


The DC (swartz?) was foisted upon him by the FO. In the first year he (JS) was fomenting a coup to become HC. It was close to succeeding as Pedersen was way over his head, and the defense was in its own Silo, so to speak. Actually think swartz was quitting before Dougie got shit canned last year.

Reich was the brains of the offensive operation. That was a good selction as OC. Pedersen liked to call the plays but reich and defilippo drew them up and installed them. They did the nuts and bolts coaching. Eagles were leaking air from when reich left to when DP was fired.

And if you were critical of Judges game day management this guy will give you an anurism. He legitimately lacks intelligence. He was viewed as a good/ likable administrator.

Put it this way, he is the only SB winning coach in Philly history and they are glad he is gone.


look a little deeper then the record. It's all out there.





RE: RE: RE: anyone with a brain  
dancing blue bear : 1/16/2022 3:36 pm : link
In comment 15555752 Eman11 said:
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In comment 15555647 Dave on the UWS said:


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should have no problem with Peterson as HC. Whether he's the best fit, that's up to the new GM. But as a fan, no issue.



Pederson is another IQ test for NYG fans. And many are failing.



Living in South Jersey I watched a lot of Eagle games when the Giants weren’t playing, and he made a lot of questionable game decisions. A lot.

Yes, some worked but plenty didn’t and they were all still questionable and had me scratching my head why he made them.

While I’m not a Mensa member, I do have a pretty decent IQ, and I’ve watched decades of football to know a questionable decision when I see one.

He’s not a HC I’d want that’s for sure.


So true. The guy is a moron. I lived in market for a while, as well. watching him week in week out, plus the pressers....I will put it this way I hoped he was head coach of Philly for life. him getting fired was a bummer for me, as a giants fan.
He should be interviewed..  
Sean : 1/16/2022 4:27 pm : link
He was saddled with a meddling owner and a micromanaging front office.
No.  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 1/16/2022 4:42 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Again, it was the front office making that decision  
giantstock : 1/16/2022 5:36 pm : link
In comment 15555717 bw in dc said:
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In comment 15555584 bw in dc said:


So by your logic because "The Mighty Bears and Vikings" are interviewing him it means Pederson is on his way for great success.

This is typical of your way of thinking. You don';t seem to give a fuck either about potentially Watson being a serial sexual assault predator.

You don't give a fuck about fans, coaches and players having to endure your philosophy of getting QB's every year every other year. There's only 1 important person in football with you that's the QB and fuck everyone else.

You're such a high character guy, aren't you?



Who said anything about Pederson's future success? The point is there is demand for Pederson to be the HC.

What does Watson have to do with this? Where did I ever mention support for Watson and his legal issues?

I have no comment about your diatribe on my QB philosophy. Just another red herring out of your keyboard.

Just out of curiosity, are you an LT fan?


Future success would have to be part of the equation why posters wouldn't want Pederson, wouldn't it?
If Pederson is such a great coach, why did the Eagles chew on the  
Spider56 : 1/16/2022 5:39 pm : link
hind one and be dysfunctional last year, then look so good this year, with a first time HC?
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Again, it was the front office making that decision  
giantstock : 1/16/2022 5:51 pm : link
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Just out of curiosity, are you an LT fan?


Yes I am. But why is that relevant?

When I learned of LT's issues it was after he retired. If LT was doing the stuff he was doing while playing and he was a Free Agent, it would be no problem taking him?

So how is it that you're trying to tie in both Pederson and LT? You can't see the difference between the 2?
He is a one trick pony. Go for it on fourth down.  
St. Jimmy : 1/16/2022 6:47 pm : link
Works great when you dominate the line if scrimmage. Doesn't work out so well with a figured out Carson Wentz. He wouldn't have an Andy Reid/Chip Kelly built lines here.
RE: RE: RE: anyone with a brain  
BillKo : 1/16/2022 8:33 pm : link
In comment 15555752 Eman11 said:
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In comment 15555647 Dave on the UWS said:


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Living in South Jersey I watched a lot of Eagle games when the Giants weren’t playing, and he made a lot of questionable game decisions. A lot.


Same here, watched a lot and did not like his game management one bit.
RE: He is a one trick pony. Go for it on fourth down.  
BillKo : 1/16/2022 8:34 pm : link
In comment 15556237 St. Jimmy said:
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Works great when you dominate the line if scrimmage. Doesn't work out so well with a figured out Carson Wentz. He wouldn't have an Andy Reid/Chip Kelly built lines here.


Yep, he went to that well way too many times.
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