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Ian O’Connor: NYG GM candidates have Flores on short list

ryanmkeane : 1/16/2022 11:38 am
Sense I get is every, or nearly every, Giants GM candidate has Brownsville's Brian Flores on short list of preferred coaches. Flores' New York buddies want him to wait out Giants GM search (ends Friday?) but he's already interviewed w/ Chicago & Houston & might get offer first.

Sign me up for Flores.
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wow  
mittenedman : 1/16/2022 11:40 am : link
He’s from Brownsville? no joke
Most likely  
Big Blue '56 : 1/16/2022 11:40 am : link
will be gone?
RE: wow  
ryanmkeane : 1/16/2022 11:41 am : link
In comment 15555405 mittenedman said:
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He’s from Brownsville? no joke

Yep, we went to Poly Prep
RE: Most likely  
ryanmkeane : 1/16/2022 11:42 am : link
In comment 15555407 Big Blue '56 said:
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will be gone?

I’m not sure. If he has a real sense that he could land the NYG job, I really think he would wait it out
So we’ve gone from the idea that  
Chris684 : 1/16/2022 11:46 am : link
no HCs and GMs would want to come here, to the idea that potential GM candidates have been banging on the door to get an interview and at least one HC candidate might possibly wait on other opportunities to see what happens here.

So much for the NYG situation being the “least desirable”.
I don't want Flores  
Mook80 : 1/16/2022 11:47 am : link
there are some definite red flags with him. He also isnt an offensive mind which is a problem imo
I don’t buy what O’Connor is selling  
Sammo85 : 1/16/2022 11:50 am : link
He’s same guy still pushing Russell Wilson as QB narrative.

No way he knows the coaching shortlists of GMs. Pure speculation and guessing on his part.

RE: So we’ve gone from the idea that  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/16/2022 11:50 am : link
In comment 15555418 Chris684 said:
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no HCs and GMs would want to come here, to the idea that potential GM candidates have been banging on the door to get an interview and at least one HC candidate might possibly wait on other opportunities to see what happens here.

So much for the NYG situation being the “least desirable”.

In fairness, one of the concerns that some fans had was that if the Giants fired another HC go after two years in addition to "retiring" DG, the implied instability would be discouraging for candidates in each of the GM and HC roles. I'm pretty sure I can find some of those posts rather quickly.

I don't think anyone who wanted DG/JJ gone was especially convinced that those respective jobs wouldn't be of interest to quality candidates.
RE: I don't want Flores  
ryanmkeane : 1/16/2022 11:51 am : link
In comment 15555421 Mook80 said:
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there are some definite red flags with him. He also isnt an offensive mind which is a problem imo

Some of the best head coaches in football are on the defensive side.
RE: wow  
Gman11 : 1/16/2022 11:51 am : link
In comment 15555405 mittenedman said:
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He’s from Brownsville? no joke


Was seen smoking in the boys room.
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Peppers : 1/16/2022 11:52 am : link
O'Connor is really trying to push this isn't he?

I've heard Houston and Flores.
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Debaser : 1/16/2022 11:59 am : link
In comment 15555428 Gman11 said:
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He’s from Brownsville? no joke



Was seen smoking in the boys room.


I work in the area and work with someone who knows him. He is actually a really nice guy who didn't forget about people from that area / where he came from despite his success.
This Ian O'Connor?  
MOOPS : 1/16/2022 12:00 pm : link
Well, all right then.
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RE: This Ian O'Connor?  
GFAN52 : 1/16/2022 12:04 pm : link
In comment 15555440 MOOPS said:
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Well, all right then. Link - ( New Window )


That's too funny.
A guy that was barely on speaking  
Silver Spoon : 1/16/2022 12:09 pm : link
terms with his coaching staff. Sounds like the ideal candidate.
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BigBlueShock : 1/16/2022 12:11 pm : link
In comment 15555430 Peppers said:
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O'Connor is really trying to push this isn't he?

I've heard Houston and Flores.

It doesn’t really take an insider to make this leap, lol. The Texans fawning over Flores isn’t exactly a secret
RE: RE: I don't want Flores  
Mook80 : 1/16/2022 12:12 pm : link
In comment 15555427 ryanmkeane said:
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there are some definite red flags with him. He also isnt an offensive mind which is a problem imo


Some of the best head coaches in football are on the defensive side.


Yes, but for this specific Giants team, I think it's a problem. It's not like Flores is some cant miss rockstar HC. He could easily flop too and has some things going against him already. I dont think he should have been fired in Miami but also dont think he's that great of a HC
If it's Flores  
Allen in CNJ : 1/16/2022 12:25 pm : link
guaranteed Graham stays... Red flags with Flores might've arose b/c of meddling owner in Miami too
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Peppers : 1/16/2022 12:25 pm : link
In comment 15555454 BigBlueShock said:
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O'Connor is really trying to push this isn't he?

I've heard Houston and Flores.


It doesn’t really take an insider to make this leap, lol. The Texans fawning over Flores isn’t exactly a secret


You're right.
RE: A guy that was barely on speaking  
3rdnlong : 1/16/2022 12:34 pm : link
In comment 15555452 Silver Spoon said:
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terms with his coaching staff. Sounds like the ideal candidate.



This is not true. It was a rumor.
Most of these guys don’t know anything.  
CV36 : 1/16/2022 12:36 pm : link
They are all speculating.
RE: So we’ve gone from the idea that  
Bill in UT : 1/16/2022 12:39 pm : link
In comment 15555418 Chris684 said:
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no HCs and GMs would want to come here, to the idea that potential GM candidates have been banging on the door to get an interview and at least one HC candidate might possibly wait on other opportunities to see what happens here.

So much for the NYG situation being the “least desirable”.


I suspect that Mara has addressed the family situation with GM candidates and made them comfortable they will have the authority they want. Plus, they now all know that the alleged big, bad NY media are a bunch of pussies
RE: RE: So we’ve gone from the idea that  
Jimmy Googs : 1/16/2022 12:50 pm : link
In comment 15555477 Bill in UT said:
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no HCs and GMs would want to come here, to the idea that potential GM candidates have been banging on the door to get an interview and at least one HC candidate might possibly wait on other opportunities to see what happens here.

So much for the NYG situation being the “least desirable”.



I suspect that Mara has addressed the family situation with GM candidates and made them comfortable they will have the authority they want. Plus, they now all know that the alleged big, bad NY media are a bunch of pussies


Haha...maybe Bill.

Or it really never was the Least Desirable and that was just a few posters (and the media) doing the normal exaggerating for effect to get a rise...
Flores v Daboll v McDaniel (SF guy)  
5BowlsSoon : 1/16/2022 12:58 pm : link
Could be fun to watch….
Whoever the GM/HC  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/16/2022 1:06 pm : link
is I hope they follow the blueprint that has worked the best with a rookie QB. Outstanding defense, balanced offense (high rushing attempts for 135 yards/game plus). So build the team through the D and OL and hope you have enough at QB who steps up in the playoffs. Those teams win Super Bowls.

Steelers, Ravens, Giants, Seattle, Kansas City, New England (3), Philly. 9 teams have won a SB on a rookie contract and all of them had a very good D and most outstanding.

RE: If it's Flores  
jvm52106 : 1/16/2022 1:11 pm : link
In comment 15555464 Allen in CNJ said:
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guaranteed Graham stays... Red flags with Flores might've arose b/c of meddling owner in Miami too


He let Graham go.. why would he stay?
RE: If it's Flores  
Mook80 : 1/16/2022 1:49 pm : link
In comment 15555464 Allen in CNJ said:
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guaranteed Graham stays... Red flags with Flores might've arose b/c of meddling owner in Miami too


Didn't Flores already fire Graham? I'd bet if its Flores there's zero chance Graham stays. You're not keeping a DC who you fired at your last stop.
If its Flores we would need a really good OC  
PatersonPlank : 1/16/2022 1:52 pm : link
Also I don't think he fired Graham, he let Graham go because for some inexplicable reason he wanted to work with Judge
RE: If its Flores we would need a really good OC  
Mook80 : 1/16/2022 2:20 pm : link
In comment 15555587 PatersonPlank said:
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Also I don't think he fired Graham, he let Graham go because for some inexplicable reason he wanted to work with Judge


He had zero reason to let Graham go. You don't let a coach go for a lateral move if you want him there. They could have simply denied permission to even interview.
Graham was running Flores' system in Miami.  
MOOPS : 1/16/2022 2:21 pm : link
He wanted a chance to run his own.
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John In CO : 1/16/2022 2:44 pm : link
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He’s from Brownsville? no joke



Was seen smoking in the boys room.



I work in the area and work with someone who knows him. He is actually a really nice guy who didn't forget about people from that area / where he came from despite his success.


Yeah,,,,nice guy, except apparently to his coaching staff who he completely cut communication with during the season. Sounds like an ace candidate for the NYG job!
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John In CO : 1/16/2022 2:45 pm : link
In comment 15555473 3rdnlong said:
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terms with his coaching staff. Sounds like the ideal candidate.




This is not true. It was a rumor.


He was fired....and where there's smoke.....I wouldnt go near this guy
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Samiam : 1/16/2022 3:49 pm : link
In comment 15555716 John In CO said:
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terms with his coaching staff. Sounds like the ideal candidate.




This is not true. It was a rumor.



He was fired....and where there's smoke.....I wouldnt go near this guy


You know that Belichick was fired too way back.
RE: If its Flores we would need a really good OC  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/16/2022 6:57 pm : link
In comment 15555587 PatersonPlank said:
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Also I don't think he fired Graham, he let Graham go because for some inexplicable reason he wanted to work with Judge

Wasn't the thinking at the time that Flores was the defensive playcaller in Miami and Graham wanted a chance to fully run his own defense?
RE: RE: RE: RE: wow  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 1/16/2022 8:05 pm : link
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Yeah,,,,nice guy, except apparently to his coaching staff who he completely cut communication with during the season. Sounds like an ace candidate for the NYG job!


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