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Potential QB option Davis Mills?

Jay on the Island : 1/16/2022 4:37 pm
Brian Flores has interviewed for the Texans HC job and if he were to become their next HC it is expected to impact Deshaun Watson's desire to stay.

For over a year it was rumored that Brian Flores wanted Miami to acquire Deshaun Watson and Watson having a strong desire to play for Flores.

Now if Watson changes his mind and wants to stay and the legal issues with him are resolved what happens to rookie QB Davis Mills?

For those who don't know who Mills is he was their 3rd round pick from the 2021 draft.

Mills had a very solid rookie season despite the Texans having arguably the worst receiving talent in the NFL. In 13 games Mills had a completion % of 66.8 with 2664 yards 16 TD's and 10 int's.

Here is Sy's writeup for Mills. 6. Davis Mills / Stanford / 6’4-217

Grade: 78

Summary: Fourth year junior entry from Duluth, Georgia. Two-year starter that first earned a starting role after KJ Costello got injured in 2019. Honorable Mention All-Pac 12 honors in 2020. Mills was a former top-shelf recruit, but his career never quite took off. Much of his status and grade still depend on projection rather than on field performance. While he does check a lot of boxes when it comes to arm talent and mechanics, he simply didn’t show enough in his 11 starts, a woefully low number. He will be a backup for at least a year or two, however there is an intriguing skill set here.

*I’ll tell you what. If I am a QB-needy team and miss out on the top 4 guys on this list, I would rather wait until day 2 for Mills than use a day 1 pick on Lance. I know Lance has more upside, but I see a pro in Mills. He is really clean. The issue with him, like Lance, is a lack of experience. The Covid situation really hurt him, and I was surprised he left Stanford, because had he gone back to school, he could have been QB1 in next year’s crop. Someone like WAS or CHI can get really solid value here.

If the Giants aren't in love with any of the QB's in the draft then Mills might be a solid option. Now Mills might not even be available if Watson returns to Houston but if he is I would consider trading a day 2 pick for him if the new GM believes that he can be the answer at QB for the Giants.
Why  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 1/16/2022 4:37 pm : link

Wouldn't they just keep him?
RE: Why  
Jay on the Island : 1/16/2022 4:39 pm : link
In comment 15555935 Tim in Eternal Blue said:
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Wouldn't they just keep him?

If Watson returns then he is their long term answer at the position and they could be enticed by a day 2 pick to address another need. It's just a hypothetical option that I considered because I am bored.
No issue with your idea of trading for him  
eric2425ny : 1/16/2022 4:40 pm : link
if he’s available. Worst case he is a solid backup. Maybe Jones needs someone breathing down his neck to get his shit together. Mills would be that guy.
If the Giants  
Keaton028 : 1/16/2022 4:43 pm : link
are out on QBs in the draft I’m hoping they explore options like Jimmy G., Andy Dalton, Gardner Minshew, Jameis Winston, Jacoby Brissett, Tyler Huntley, Tyrod Taylor, and maybe Teddy B. as a bridge QB to someone from the 2023 draft.
RE: If the Giants  
Jay on the Island : 1/16/2022 4:44 pm : link
In comment 15555949 Keaton028 said:
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are out on QBs in the draft I’m hoping they explore options like Jimmy G., Andy Dalton, Gardner Minshew, Jameis Winston, Jacoby Brissett, Tyler Huntley, Tyrod Taylor, and maybe Teddy B. as a bridge QB to someone from the 2023 draft.

If the Giants went the FA route for a QB I hope that they sign either Mariota or Trubisky. Trubisky makes a lot of sense especially if the Giants hire Daboll as HC.
What are Flores and Watson  
santacruzom : 1/16/2022 4:46 pm : link
So ties together? I honestly don't know. Did Flores coach or date him at some point in the past?
Dear god  
jvm52106 : 1/16/2022 4:49 pm : link
Why would trade for a Davis Mills when we could draft an equivalent talent for less .
If the Giants are out on QBs in the draft,  
Bill in UT : 1/16/2022 4:49 pm : link
which I hope is the case, I would use every asset to build up the team for the future, and no assets to pick up a stopgap who might win us a couple of meaningless games and hurt our draft position for 2023. Unless Jones comes on strong, next year is a throwaway, rebuilding year.
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Go Terps : 1/16/2022 4:49 pm : link
In comment 15555952 Jay on the Island said:
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are out on QBs in the draft I’m hoping they explore options like Jimmy G., Andy Dalton, Gardner Minshew, Jameis Winston, Jacoby Brissett, Tyler Huntley, Tyrod Taylor, and maybe Teddy B. as a bridge QB to someone from the 2023 draft.


If the Giants went the FA route for a QB I hope that they sign either Mariota or Trubisky. Trubisky makes a lot of sense especially if the Giants hire Daboll as HC.


Based on their costs last year the Giants could sign both for less than what they are slated to pay Jones.
RE: RE: RE: If the Giants  
Jay on the Island : 1/16/2022 4:57 pm : link
In comment 15555969 Go Terps said:
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are out on QBs in the draft I’m hoping they explore options like Jimmy G., Andy Dalton, Gardner Minshew, Jameis Winston, Jacoby Brissett, Tyler Huntley, Tyrod Taylor, and maybe Teddy B. as a bridge QB to someone from the 2023 draft.


If the Giants went the FA route for a QB I hope that they sign either Mariota or Trubisky. Trubisky makes a lot of sense especially if the Giants hire Daboll as HC.



Based on their costs last year the Giants could sign both for less than what they are slated to pay Jones.

I doubt Trubisky signs for so little money again. I was surprised by his contract but it reportedly had to do with his desire to play for a contender.
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Bill in UT : 1/16/2022 4:58 pm : link
In comment 15555969 Go Terps said:
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are out on QBs in the draft I’m hoping they explore options like Jimmy G., Andy Dalton, Gardner Minshew, Jameis Winston, Jacoby Brissett, Tyler Huntley, Tyrod Taylor, and maybe Teddy B. as a bridge QB to someone from the 2023 draft.


If the Giants went the FA route for a QB I hope that they sign either Mariota or Trubisky. Trubisky makes a lot of sense especially if the Giants hire Daboll as HC.



Based on their costs last year the Giants could sign both for less than what they are slated to pay Jones.


If the Giants cut Jones, do they take a cap hit on his whole salary? If so, the cost of Mariota of Trubisky would be in addition to Jones' salary, not instead of it.
Not sure this trade  
pjcas18 : 1/16/2022 4:59 pm : link
would make sense for either team.

and if Mills is a viable trade target because he can actually play, a late round pick doesn't get it done IMO
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Producer : 1/16/2022 5:00 pm : link
In comment 15555992 Jay on the Island said:
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are out on QBs in the draft I’m hoping they explore options like Jimmy G., Andy Dalton, Gardner Minshew, Jameis Winston, Jacoby Brissett, Tyler Huntley, Tyrod Taylor, and maybe Teddy B. as a bridge QB to someone from the 2023 draft.


If the Giants went the FA route for a QB I hope that they sign either Mariota or Trubisky. Trubisky makes a lot of sense especially if the Giants hire Daboll as HC.



Based on their costs last year the Giants could sign both for less than what they are slated to pay Jones.


I doubt Trubisky signs for so little money again. I was surprised by his contract but it reportedly had to do with his desire to play for a contender.


He signed for backup money. Where's he gonna get more.
Mills might show a tiny bit of promise  
Producer : 1/16/2022 5:01 pm : link
But overall he isn't very good yet, and a massive project.

And unless you give HOU something decent, they're not trading him
Would rather take a flyer on Huntley.  
Toastt34 : 1/16/2022 6:14 pm : link
I thought Jimmy G would be heading to Houston with the Caserio connection and he still might but he becomes an intriguing option to me if he becomes available.
Watson WILL NOT ….  
morrison40 : 1/16/2022 6:14 pm : link
Play for Houston
Jones had better number in 1 less game  
bluewave : 1/16/2022 8:01 pm : link
in a functional offense. Jones will be coming back for 1 year to see what he's got. If he sucks then we'll be looking for a QB soon enough...
RE: Jones had better number in 1 less game  
Bear vs Shark : 1/16/2022 8:09 pm : link
In comment 15556682 bluewave said:
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in a functional offense. Jones will be coming back for 1 year to see what he's got. If he sucks then we'll be looking for a QB soon enough...
Jones is coming back, but not to "see what he's got". We know what we've got.
RE: Watson WILL NOT ….  
bw in dc : 1/16/2022 8:10 pm : link
In comment 15556138 morrison40 said:
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Play for Houston


Agreed. And Houston likes what they see in Mills.

They want to get Watson out of town and get as much compensation as possible. They want him to settle with his accusers and end his legal issues. Otherwise, that is a lot of money to swallow because there is actually a chance that Watson never plays in the NFL again. Which I never thought was possible, but I can't rule it out now.
RE: Jones had better number in 1 less game  
santacruzom : 1/17/2022 4:47 pm : link
In comment 15556682 bluewave said:
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in a functional offense. Jones will be coming back for 1 year to see what he's got. If he sucks then we'll be looking for a QB soon enough...


Which QB's numbers a worse than Jones? Mills? Didn't he throw for 17 TDs, as a rookie?
If the Giants cut Jones  
arniefez : 1/17/2022 5:01 pm : link
it costs them 8 million against the cap. But if they trade him it costs them nothing. A smart GM might shop him for 2022 and 2023 draft picks as soon as the league year begins and then sign one of the QBs mentioned above.
RE: If the Giants cut Jones  
bw in dc : 1/17/2022 5:50 pm : link
In comment 15558102 arniefez said:
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it costs them 8 million against the cap. But if they trade him it costs them nothing. A smart GM might shop him for 2022 and 2023 draft picks as soon as the league year begins and then sign one of the QBs mentioned above.


This is true. But without the clean bill of health, that's a tough sell. I would take anything at this point just to clear that money.

However, if I can't find a trade partner, I still want to start over and prepare for the next QB (whether short or long term). So, I would take the cap hit.
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