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Comparing Hurts and Prescott

sec308 : 1/16/2022 5:56 pm
I only watched the first half of the Philly game and I came away thinking Hurts is not a very good QB. He seems to just lob the ball to an area and his interception at the end of the half was the mark of poor QB. Dak's touchdown pass to Cooper was perfectly thrown and he makes these passes constantly. I don't see that kind of strike with Hurts or Jones for that matter.
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Hurts is the worst QB in  
Carl in CT : 1/16/2022 5:57 pm : link
NFC east
RE: Hurts is the worst QB in  
jerseygiant : 1/16/2022 5:59 pm : link
In comment 15556108 Carl in CT said:
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NFC east


Heinicke and it’s not close.
Hurts was, uh, hurt today  
Ben in Tampa : 1/16/2022 6:02 pm : link
Foot in a boot

BUT,

He stinks anyways. I think Eagles will be drafting a QB this year. And if needed, they have enough fire power to move up if they fall in love
RE: Hurts is the worst QB in  
Go Terps : 1/16/2022 6:06 pm : link
In comment 15556108 Carl in CT said:
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NFC east


Is Jones no longer in the NFC East?
I think Hurts needs a very good running game  
ThreePoints : 1/16/2022 6:06 pm : link
To be successful. I don’t think he’s going to go out and win you every game. But if you’re asking him to compliment a very good running game, he can do that and do it well.
Heineken is better than DJ.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/16/2022 6:07 pm : link
Dak is best QB in NFC East.

Hurts sucks. Jones might be better...not a high bar.
RE: RE: Hurts is the worst QB in  
dancing blue bear : 1/16/2022 6:07 pm : link
In comment 15556123 Go Terps said:
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NFC east



Is Jones no longer in the NFC East?


We have a winner! I had my money on producer/ debaser. Congrats
Common Terps, Jones  
Dave on the UWS : 1/16/2022 6:13 pm : link
is likely a decent backup. Hurts is NOT an NFL QB. I know tou hate the guy but this is a little too much hyperbole- even for you.
Anyone notice  
kelly : 1/16/2022 6:22 pm : link
Every game won so far had the better quarterback.

Also all the play off teams seem to have very good tight ends.

We have neither.
RE: Common Terps, Jones  
Go Terps : 1/16/2022 6:26 pm : link
In comment 15556134 Dave on the UWS said:
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is likely a decent backup. Hurts is NOT an NFL QB. I know tou hate the guy but this is a little too much hyperbole- even for you.


Hurts was playing today, and was the QB for a team that scored 26 PPG.

That's a dream for Jones.
Hurts is a text book Philadelphia Eagles QB.  
St. Jimmy : 1/16/2022 6:29 pm : link
A guy who makes plays when a play breaks down. He is not a traditional QB. He can kill you with his legs. Can make plays in the passing game. Is not going to beat you with passing alone.
I agree with Terps about a lot  
j_rud : 1/16/2022 6:32 pm : link
but not this one. Hurts is dreadful with a lot more to work with.
RE: Common Terps, Jones  
bw in dc : 1/16/2022 6:33 pm : link
In comment 15556134 Dave on the UWS said:
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is likely a decent backup. Hurts is NOT an NFL QB. I know tou hate the guy but this is a little too much hyperbole- even for you.


Hurts did not play well today. When he's bad he's really bad.

But when he's good, he can really rack up the points. Which is the job description of the QB. To date, and I'm far from a Hurts advocate, Hurts is better at his job than Jones.

Still, Philly has a lot of thinking to do this offseason about their QB.
Both Hurts and Jones suck  
GNewGiants : 1/16/2022 6:35 pm : link
Not wanting Hurts doesn’t mean Jones is good. Hurts is like every other running QB in the league…

Get up a few scores and enjoy the show as the “try” to throw the ball. RGIII, Lamar, Hurts… doesn’t matter.

Hurts should be replaced immediately. He can’t throw.
Prescott has more talent around him  
Giants73 : 1/16/2022 6:35 pm : link
Both suck
.  
Go Terps : 1/16/2022 6:35 pm : link
Hurts isn't good enough that he would keep me from drafting Corral or Pickett. I'd be looking to get better at the position if I were Philly. Hurts isn't good enough to commit to. But he's better than Jones.
I would not swap  
Bill in UT : 1/16/2022 6:49 pm : link
Jones for Hurts
Hurts and Jones are really similar statistically  
cosmicj : 1/16/2022 6:52 pm : link
Hurts’ 2021 is probably the best season the two players have had.

Hurts has been playing with a better OL but Jones has had better skill players.

This puts the Jones situation in context.
Hurts is not an NFL quarterback  
Hammer : 1/16/2022 7:01 pm : link
It's not even open for discussion.

He's just not.
RE: Hurts is not an NFL quarterback  
jerseygiant : 1/16/2022 7:08 pm : link
In comment 15556282 Hammer said:
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It's not even open for discussion.

He's just not.


Utterly ridiculous
RE: .  
Chris684 : 1/16/2022 7:08 pm : link
In comment 15556194 Go Terps said:
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Hurts isn't good enough that he would keep me from drafting Corral or Pickett. I'd be looking to get better at the position if I were Philly. Hurts isn't good enough to commit to. But he's better than Jones.


Hurts sucks. He’s not any better than Jones. He can run a little bit but he’s not near as athletic as Jones is.

Hurts is terrible…  
Chris in Philly : 1/16/2022 7:13 pm : link
BW is obviously trolling as usual but does anyone on earth believe if Hurts was on the Giants he would sniff 26 PPG? That is delusional.
RE: Hurts is terrible…  
GNewGiants : 1/16/2022 7:14 pm : link
In comment 15556328 Chris in Philly said:
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BW is obviously trolling as usual but does anyone on earth believe if Hurts was on the Giants he would sniff 26 PPG? That is delusional.


No that was Terps trolling. He’s been on the Hurts bandwagon all year.
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Go Terps : 1/16/2022 7:20 pm : link
"X would suck if he was on the Giants, and Y would be awesome if he weren't on the Giants"...inane.

The biggest reason the Giants suck is their shitty players. Jones is a shitty player.
RE: Hurts and Jones are really similar statistically  
Thunderstruck27 : 1/16/2022 7:25 pm : link
In comment 15556253 cosmicj said:
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Hurts’ 2021 is probably the best season the two players have had.

Hurts has been playing with a better OL but Jones has had better skill players.

This puts the Jones situation in context.


WTF? Name one skill player on the Giants better than on the Eagles
RE: Hurts is terrible…  
bw in dc : 1/16/2022 7:25 pm : link
In comment 15556328 Chris in Philly said:
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BW is obviously trolling as usual but does anyone on earth believe if Hurts was on the Giants he would sniff 26 PPG? That is delusional.


I see your reading comprehension hasn't improved.

No idea how anyone can read what I wrote and call it "trolling".

RE: RE: Common Terps, Jones  
uconngiant : 1/16/2022 7:29 pm : link
In comment 15556167 Go Terps said:
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is likely a decent backup. Hurts is NOT an NFL QB. I know tou hate the guy but this is a little too much hyperbole- even for you.



Hurts was playing today, and was the QB for a team that scored 26 PPG.

That's a dream for Jones.


The line for the Giant's sucked and the Eagles have an all pro and a couple of other solid lineman unlike the Giants.
RE: RE: RE: Common Terps, Jones  
Chris in Philly : 1/16/2022 7:31 pm : link
In comment 15556418 uconngiant said:
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is likely a decent backup. Hurts is NOT an NFL QB. I know tou hate the guy but this is a little too much hyperbole- even for you.



Hurts was playing today, and was the QB for a team that scored 26 PPG.

That's a dream for Jones.



The line for the Giant's sucked and the Eagles have an all pro and a couple of other solid lineman unlike the Giants.


Sorry man, it’s inane to try and introduce that obvious context. Better to just pathologically inject Jones into every thread on the site.
Hurts blows with the passing aspect of playing QB  
ZogZerg : 1/16/2022 7:35 pm : link
He runs well.
Hurts was exposed today...  
moze1021 : 1/16/2022 7:51 pm : link
Even Eagles fans know and expected it..he can't make all the throws and when you get to the playoffs you need to

Jones is a better QB..not sure how anyone could think otherwise unless they just hate Jones.
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GMen72 : 1/16/2022 8:07 pm : link
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NFC east



Is Jones no longer in the NFC East?


No shit! Jones is by far the worst QB in the division. Both of those guys give their team a chance to win every week.
RE: Hurts is not an NFL quarterback  
Bear vs Shark : 1/16/2022 8:09 pm : link
In comment 15556282 Hammer said:
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It's not even open for discussion.

He's just not.
What a stupid fucking comment
RE: Hurts is not an NFL quarterback  
GMen72 : 1/16/2022 8:13 pm : link
In comment 15556282 Hammer said:
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It's not even open for discussion.

He's just not.


Hurts just took an average team to the playoffs? He may not be a top 10 NFL QB, but he improved greatly over this season. If the Giants offered DJ for Hurts, the Eagles would laugh at the offer!
Hurts is the perfect backup for  
Giantimistic : 1/16/2022 8:20 pm : link
Lamar Jackson.
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Essex : 1/16/2022 8:27 pm : link
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It's not even open for discussion.

He's just not.



Hurts just took an average team to the playoffs? He may not be a top 10 NFL QB, but he improved greatly over this season. If the Giants offered DJ for Hurts, the Eagles would laugh at the offer!


He beat Bridgewater, Trevor Siemian, Jake Fromm, Garret Gilbert, Taylor Heineke (barely), Jared Goff, Zach Wilson, Sam Darnold and Matt Ryan on opening day. His teams always get off to “slow starts” and eventually the elite Offensive line overpowers the tired defenses because the defenses are out there all game with the three and outs with those non-nfl starting type QBs
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GNewGiants : 1/16/2022 8:29 pm : link
In comment 15556752 GMen72 said:
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It's not even open for discussion.

He's just not.



Hurts just took an average team to the playoffs? He may not be a top 10 NFL QB, but he improved greatly over this season. If the Giants offered DJ for Hurts, the Eagles would laugh at the offer!


Pretty sure you got it backwards. The eagles took Hurts to the playoffs and ultimately shit the bed.

And remember Jones outplayed Hurts this year head to head lol.
Eagles might consider that Russell Wilson trade  
dpinzow : 1/16/2022 8:35 pm : link
their window to contend is opening but they don't have the QB, and there isn't a QB in this draft much better than Hurts
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Hammer : 1/16/2022 8:37 pm : link
In comment 15556729 Bear vs Shark said:
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It's not even open for discussion.

He's just not.

What a stupid fucking comment


No, it's not a stupid comment.

Hurts is late on every throw he makes. He doesn't anticipate the top of the route and if his receiver is not wide open the defender has an excellent opportunity to make a play.

If not for Hurt's legs, he wouldn't be in the league.

He sucks, and I hope that the Eagles hang their hat on him for the next few years because, if they do, they will never be better than average.
RE: RE: RE: Hurts is not an NFL quarterback  
dpinzow : 1/16/2022 8:39 pm : link
In comment 15556837 Hammer said:
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It's not even open for discussion.

He's just not.

What a stupid fucking comment



No, it's not a stupid comment.

Hurts is late on every throw he makes. He doesn't anticipate the top of the route and if his receiver is not wide open the defender has an excellent opportunity to make a play.

If not for Hurt's legs, he wouldn't be in the league.

He sucks, and I hope that the Eagles hang their hat on him for the next few years because, if they do, they will never be better than average.


Devonta Smith needs a QB who can make all the throws and Hurts can't do it. They have the three first round picks that are potential trade bait for a Russell Wilson or Deshaun Watson, both of whom can make all the throws. If Eagles go with a QB in this draft there's no guarantee anyone from this draft is better than Hurts; that's how weak the QB class is
I think both Philly and Wash would trade their QBs for Jones  
BillT : 1/16/2022 10:10 pm : link
Because they know for certain their QBs will never take them anywhere. Jones may not either but they could hope. Better than knowing they’re going nowhere.
Prescott is the only legitimate starter in the division  
Jerry in_DC : 1/16/2022 10:18 pm : link
Big drop-off then I'd take Heineke 2nd because he has some clutch and improv ability. Jones and Hurts are pretty close. Both are good backups and bad starters.
But I don't know if it's worth arguing about  
Jerry in_DC : 1/16/2022 10:34 pm : link
Both guys suck as starters. It's kind of dumb to argue over which team's scrub is better. Nobody is ever like "Will Hernandez is so much better than [insert other scrub OG]"

We just say Hernandez sucks and we need a better player. Sure there are other RGs who suck like he does, but it's not all that important to rank them.
Philly wasn’t calling  
cjac : 1/16/2022 11:23 pm : link
The type of plays they usually do because of Hurts ankle

They tried to turn him into a pocket passer, that’s not who he is
RE: I agree with Terps about a lot  
islander1 : 1/16/2022 11:26 pm : link
In comment 15556178 j_rud said:
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but not this one. Hurts is dreadful with a lot more to work with.


This is where I'm at. If Jones is on the Eagles, they win more than 9.

I've watched Hurts 4 times now, and he's looked no better than Jones every single time. Jones will probably have a long career as a solid backup in this league, but that's an absolute draft failure if you're drafting him 6th overall.
Hurts may be the worst thrower  
Giants73 : 1/16/2022 11:57 pm : link
Of the football in the NFL. Prescott has been gifted a great supporting cast but is a loser. 40 million a year and the team would be light years better with Tannehill. NFC East does not have a real QB.
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Thunderstruck27 : 1/17/2022 3:21 am : link
In comment 15556720 GMen72 said:
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NFC east



Is Jones no longer in the NFC East?



No shit! Jones is by far the worst QB in the division. Both of those guys give their team a chance to win every week.


Fucking delusional
I’m still waiting for jones pumpers  
Debaser : 1/17/2022 12:47 pm : link
To tell me why jones is any good.

All the arguments you make for danny “dimes” you can make for Darnold or Glennon. Darnold player on a piss team(s) w bad oline and Glennon had a great rookie year too.
Jones would be  
giantBCP : 1/17/2022 12:57 pm : link
lighting the league up if he was behind a top 5 pass blocking unit like Hurts is.
RE: Jones would be  
Debaser : 1/17/2022 1:35 pm : link
In comment 15557755 giantBCP said:
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lighting the league up if he was behind a top 5 pass blocking unit like Hurts is.


Based on? Did jones even light up hid his high school league?
Yes  
djm : 1/17/2022 1:39 pm : link
I’m sure the giants would be better if hurts moonwalked into this 2021 ready made nfl offense here with the giants. Same with garoppolo. All our troubles just go away. Hurts here with the giants means we’re the ones scoring 26 garbage time pts in the playoff game yesterday.

When you guys dig in your heels it’s truly a sight to behold.
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