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Why not Eric Bieniemy?

NJ_GIANTS : 1/16/2022 8:21 pm
I got a chance to hear him talk about coaching and the importance of team last year at Nick Saban's coaching clinic. I came away very impressed with him and so did my boys. He's been leading one of the most impressive and consistent offenses in recent history. He keeps interviewing for HC positions, but never seems to be the guys. The Giants did interview Ryan Poles for the GM position - I'd assume they'd work well together.

Thoughts?
Tell me this  
Cyrus the Great : 1/16/2022 8:32 pm : link
What offensive coordinator would not succeed in his position. He has an offense with Mahomes, Hill, and Kelce along with Andy Reid as head coach. Maybe he could be a good head coach, I don't know. But I do not see the him as being integral to the success of the Chiefs offense. I think just about any coordinator would succeed in his spot.
Because he’s running Andy Reid’s offense.  
BUgiantfan : 1/16/2022 8:34 pm : link
I think if Bieniemy wants to be a HC, he’s going to have to leave KC and have success as an offensive coordinator somewhere else.

I’m sure Bieniemy is an outstanding man and coach but if I have to make a gigantic decision like hiring a head coach, how certain am I that KC’s success is because of him and not Reid?
RE: Because he’s running Andy Reid’s offense.  
Chris in Philly : 1/16/2022 8:46 pm : link
In comment 15556826 BUgiantfan said:
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I think if Bieniemy wants to be a HC, he’s going to have to leave KC and have success as an offensive coordinator somewhere else.

I’m sure Bieniemy is an outstanding man and coach but if I have to make a gigantic decision like hiring a head coach, how certain am I that KC’s success is because of him and not Reid?


There is plenty of evidence that he is not at all an outstanding man. No thanks.
RE: Because he’s running Andy Reid’s offense.  
Mdgiantsfan : 1/16/2022 8:52 pm : link
In comment 15556826 BUgiantfan said:
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I think if Bieniemy wants to be a HC, he’s going to have to leave KC and have success as an offensive coordinator somewhere else.

I’m sure Bieniemy is an outstanding man and coach but if I have to make a gigantic decision like hiring a head coach, how certain am I that KC’s success is because of him and not Reid?


I think that's crap. It's interesting how the offensive assistants under McVay don't get the same questions as EB. Kevin O'Connell is getting consideration this year and he doesn't call plays. LaFleur was McVay's OC then went to Tennessee for one year in which they were 27th in offense yet he got a HC gig. Zac Taylor was an Asst WR Coach under McVay before getting the HC gig.
He has gone on plenty of interviews  
Snablats : 1/16/2022 8:57 pm : link
Why didnt anyone hire him? What has changed from two years ago, last year, to now? He doesnt call plays, its Reid's offense, and he has baggage

Maybe he just doesnt interview well? Maybe he just doesnt have the answers owners and GMs want?
Baggage from his past  
jeff57 : 1/16/2022 9:03 pm : link
Scares teams off.
RE: RE: Because he’s running Andy Reid’s offense.  
Mike in NY : 1/16/2022 9:05 pm : link
In comment 15556873 Mdgiantsfan said:
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In comment 15556826 BUgiantfan said:


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I think if Bieniemy wants to be a HC, he’s going to have to leave KC and have success as an offensive coordinator somewhere else.

I’m sure Bieniemy is an outstanding man and coach but if I have to make a gigantic decision like hiring a head coach, how certain am I that KC’s success is because of him and not Reid?



I think that's crap. It's interesting how the offensive assistants under McVay don't get the same questions as EB. Kevin O'Connell is getting consideration this year and he doesn't call plays. LaFleur was McVay's OC then went to Tennessee for one year in which they were 27th in offense yet he got a HC gig. Zac Taylor was an Asst WR Coach under McVay before getting the HC gig.


I get the sense that while McVay calls the plays, the offense is a collaborative effort. Andy Reid is not that type of guy. Watching McVay’s coaching tree they have all succeeded. Andy Reid’s coaching tree not so much. Matt Nagy and Doug Pederson looked better with their OC being more involved (Bill Lazor and Frank Reich).
Andy Reid doesn't lead that offense?  
Jint Fan in Buc Land : 1/16/2022 9:30 pm : link
The offense that's more talented than any in the league? How many years does he need to be passed over before fans realize there is something we don't know that keeps him from being a serious candidate. There are so many good candidates why do ppl want to force it with someone with red flags
Not a good person  
Sy'56 : 1/16/2022 9:47 pm : link
And not a good interview
RE: Not a good person  
Big Al : 1/16/2022 9:51 pm : link
In comment 15556989 Sy'56 said:
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And not a good interview
Nobody’s perfect.
RE: RE: Because he’s running Andy Reid’s offense.  
BUgiantfan : 1/16/2022 10:45 pm : link
In comment 15556865 Chris in Philly said:
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In comment 15556826 BUgiantfan said:


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I think if Bieniemy wants to be a HC, he’s going to have to leave KC and have success as an offensive coordinator somewhere else.

I’m sure Bieniemy is an outstanding man and coach but if I have to make a gigantic decision like hiring a head coach, how certain am I that KC’s success is because of him and not Reid?



There is plenty of evidence that he is not at all an outstanding man. No thanks.


I'm just trying to be nice and keep the argument based on what I see on the field.
He also  
Joey in VA : 1/17/2022 1:22 am : link
Looks like a thumb. What else do you need?
RE: RE: Not a good person  
TommyWiseau : 1/17/2022 1:43 am : link
In comment 15557000 Big Al said:
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In comment 15556989 Sy'56 said:


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And not a good interview

Nobody’s perfect.


Totally. When you put hands on women, you are far from perfect. Same people that are willing to take Bieniemy as a HC don’t want Watson because of his off field troubles. Makes no sense
All that being said...  
Milton : 1/17/2022 4:31 am : link
He was one of Chris Berman's best play on names: Eric "Sleeping with" Bieniemy.
We need someone who we KNOW is our next franchise HC..  
EricJ : 1/17/2022 7:51 am : link
not a coordinator with training wheels on.
He doesn't even  
TrueBlue56 : 1/17/2022 8:30 am : link
call the plays. He is a major unknown and he has baggage from his past that will be dug up even more in New york.
ah yes  
ATL_Giants : 1/17/2022 8:57 am : link
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Colorado police once again arrested Bieniemy, then in the NFL, in September 1993. The Orlando Sentinel reported that Bieniemy allegedly grabbed a female parking attendant by the neck and threatened her.

The University of Colorado Boulder banned Bieniemy from its campus for one year as a result.

“She stated that the male who grabbed her said something about ‘a bunch of Black males all at once being her worst nightmare,” the attendant told police, according to the arrest report.
Too risky  
AnnapolisMike : 1/17/2022 9:03 am : link
The Giants need a retread or a Coordinator who is unequivocally the reason his offense or defense is fantastic.
 
Mdgiantsfan : 1/17/2022 9:16 am : link
well my point which is not directed towards the Giants vacant position in particular but the fact that the league has a problem with black HCs. When the Lafleurs and Taylor’s of the world can get HCing gigs with very light resumes, and EB I don’t think has even been a front runner or finalist for any. When only 1 in 32 of the HCs are black in a league where the majority of players are. And lastly, when you have an assistant that’s been under the tutelage of one the best offenses for quite a few years and even if he’s not calling the plays, you would think that he’s still learned, been exposed to, and have much to offer. It’s almost as if he’s looked at like a clipboard holder with absolutely no coaching ability.
This is always going to be an issue for an OC  
blueblood : 1/17/2022 9:20 am : link
when you are the OC under a known Genius. The question is how much of it is the HC and how much of it is you?

Same thing happened to Ray Sherman under Mike Holgrem.

Would you trust a DC who operates under Belichick?

Mangini/Patricia anyone?
.......  
CoughlinHandsonHips : 1/17/2022 1:39 pm : link
This is a candidate the media loves - but is obviously not performing when given the chance to interview.

Teams are desperate for the next hot shot coordinator - especially an offensive minded one. He is being passed over for a reason.
RE: This is always going to be an issue for an OC  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/17/2022 7:31 pm : link
In comment 15557397 blueblood said:
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when you are the OC under a known Genius. The question is how much of it is the HC and how much of it is you?

Same thing happened to Ray Sherman under Mike Holgrem.

Would you trust a DC who operates under Belichick?

Mangini/Patricia anyone?

Flores seems to not be scaring anyone off at the moment, though.
Because every time I hear his namr,  
Big Blue '56 : 1/17/2022 7:39 pm : link
Chris Berman flashes into my head with Eric “sleeping with” Bieniemy.
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