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gtt350 : 1/16/2022 10:06 pm
I started reading with amusement then was shocked that they think their us.
" Blow it up"
"fire the coach
" rebuild the offensive line"
" our front seven suck"
"the play calling is atrocious"
"we need defensive tackles"
" Jerrah is terrible of judging talent"

"I'm not watching anymore football"

and hilarious " Romo should STFU he never delivered"
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it's funny  
Allen in CNJ : 1/17/2022 7:16 am : link
but I wish we had the opportunity to have a playoff meltdown
RE: Sounds like a typical BBI post-game  
Mayo2JZ : 1/17/2022 7:21 am : link
In comment 15557030 Jim in Fairfax said:
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Exactly! I always laugh a little when threads like this are started. We have meltdowns every fricking day!
Ball spotting  
Mike in NY : 1/17/2022 7:30 am : link
Apparently if the ball is being spiked the NFL does allow some leeway versus the precise spot because they can correct after ball is spiked. However, Prescott placed the ball further downfield than what NFL accepts (I guess they figure that a yard or two isn’t drastically going to change play calling in obvious spike situation so allow ball to be spiked sooner)
The majority of Cowboy fans in Texas know their football  
Rick in Dallas : 1/17/2022 7:32 am : link
It's the bandwagon Cowboy fans that give the real Cowboy fans a bad rap.
Honestly, you can't go 1 and 4 against teams with at least 10 wins and expect to win the SB.
Yesterday's outcome was so predictable and delicious happening in AT&T Stadium.
RE: The majority of Cowboy fans in Texas know their football  
Gruber : 1/17/2022 7:39 am : link
In comment 15557257 Rick in Dallas said:
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It's the bandwagon Cowboy fans that give the real Cowboy fans a bad rap.
Honestly, you can't go 1 and 4 against teams with at least 10 wins and expect to win the SB.
Yesterday's outcome was so predictable and delicious happening in AT&T Stadium.


Sy commented that the Cowboys owed a lot of their point scoring to defensive takeaways or something like that and that that would not work in the playoffs against the better teams. Sure enough.
RE: RE: The majority of Cowboy fans in Texas know their football  
Mike in NY : 1/17/2022 7:47 am : link
In comment 15557263 Gruber said:
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In comment 15557257 Rick in Dallas said:


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It's the bandwagon Cowboy fans that give the real Cowboy fans a bad rap.
Honestly, you can't go 1 and 4 against teams with at least 10 wins and expect to win the SB.
Yesterday's outcome was so predictable and delicious happening in AT&T Stadium.



Sy commented that the Cowboys owed a lot of their point scoring to defensive takeaways or something like that and that that would not work in the playoffs against the better teams. Sure enough.


Same reason Greg Roman’s offenses have struggled in postseason. It can exploit teams that are weaker across from them, but it doesn’t translate when opponent is able to match up. This is like the baseball team who does great in the regular season because they can force teams to use a lot of pitchers, but struggle in postseason where fewer starters and more off days mean that you are no longer facing the pitcher who would be the last option in bullpen.
No different than your average week  
Beer Man : 1/17/2022 7:48 am : link
on BBI
Question - WHO CALLED the STUPID Run Play?  
ZogZerg : 1/17/2022 7:49 am : link
Was it McCarthy, who they may can for the OC?

Or, was it the OC, that they may hire as their next head coach?

This is an important question that needs to be discussed.
RE: RE: The majority of Cowboy fans in Texas know their football  
Ira : 1/17/2022 7:55 am : link
In comment 15557263 Gruber said:
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In comment 15557257 Rick in Dallas said:


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It's the bandwagon Cowboy fans that give the real Cowboy fans a bad rap.
Honestly, you can't go 1 and 4 against teams with at least 10 wins and expect to win the SB.
Yesterday's outcome was so predictable and delicious happening in AT&T Stadium.



Sy commented that the Cowboys owed a lot of their point scoring to defensive takeaways or something like that and that that would not work in the playoffs against the better teams. Sure enough.


This is a very good point.
RE: No different than your average week  
Mike from Ohio : 1/17/2022 8:53 am : link
In comment 15557279 Beer Man said:
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on BBI


Yeah we have several fans here who believe the refs screw the Giants out of wins all the time. It is usually the same posters week after week blaming every close loss on one or two calls that go against them and ignore the one or two that went in our favor.
I would swap EVERYTHING with the Cowboys right now...  
EricJ : 1/17/2022 8:55 am : link
with the exception of the owners... <-- and that was hard to admit right there.
Comments just seem like most fan boards  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/17/2022 8:58 am : link
after a loss. The big issue was the Cowboys inability to run the ball. Forced into longer down and distance the team gets exposed and the niners had the personnel to make things uncomfortable in the pocket. San Fran was the more physical team which bodes well in the playoffs.

That is playoff football. Your weaknesses get exposed.
You  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/17/2022 9:04 am : link
guys should go back and re-read the comments by Giants fans in the Cowboys-49ers game thread. Some of you were losing your minds.
RE: You  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 1/17/2022 9:08 am : link
In comment 15557370 Eric from BBI said:
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guys should go back and re-read the comments by Giants fans in the Cowboys-49ers game thread. Some of you were losing your minds.


In my own defense, it was like watching two teams both coached by Mike McCarthy. Then sprinkle in the expected, yet still shocking Jimmy G stupidity…
It’s going to be an interesting offseason for the Cowboys  
Rick in Dallas : 1/17/2022 9:11 am : link
Salary Cap Restrictions
Coaching Staff Turnover
Starters who are now FA’s

I think of the 2 coordinators DanQuinn gets a HC job. Possible for Moore .
Some really good FA that they will have difficulty re-signing especially Schultz.
RE: Question - WHO CALLED the STUPID Run Play?  
Gman11 : 1/17/2022 9:12 am : link
In comment 15557282 ZogZerg said:
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Was it McCarthy, who they may can for the OC?

Or, was it the OC, that they may hire as their next head coach?

This is an important question that needs to be discussed.


I thought Dak just ran too far. If he slid after 10 yards they would have had enough time to spike the ball. The call was to get closer to get one shot at the end zone. If he slides at the 30 it's not much different than the 25. Of course, that's easy to say from my couch.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I am on twitter  
Big Al : 1/17/2022 9:38 am : link
In comment 15557156 montanagiant said:
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In comment 15557079 Del Shofner said:


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talking with some idiot who blames the Umpire for not letting the Cowboys spot the ball themselves rather than let the Umpire do it.



To be honest, I had to be educated on another thread about that. Just never focused on the fact that the ref has to spot the ball. That said, I don't get paid the big bucks to know all the rules.

The guy I was talking to was not unaware of the rule. He just kept saying the difference between the Cowboys spot and the Umpire spot was small so there was no need to do it and that the umpire following protocol was unfair to the Cowboys. The Umpire should have just accepted the Cowboys spot, touch the ball and clear out.


The problem was that he couldn't get to the ball because of players milling about right in front of him. So this excuse by Dak does not matter
My first comment to the guy was that the Umpire should have leaped over the offensive line.
RE: You  
BillKo : 1/17/2022 9:39 am : link
In comment 15557370 Eric from BBI said:
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guys should go back and re-read the comments by Giants fans in the Cowboys-49ers game thread. Some of you were losing your minds.


Members here out of control and can't control their emotions?

I don't believe it.
RE: RE: Question - WHO CALLED the STUPID Run Play?  
BillKo : 1/17/2022 9:41 am : link
In comment 15557384 Gman11 said:
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In comment 15557282 ZogZerg said:


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Was it McCarthy, who they may can for the OC?

Or, was it the OC, that they may hire as their next head coach?

This is an important question that needs to be discussed.



I thought Dak just ran too far. If he slid after 10 yards they would have had enough time to spike the ball. The call was to get closer to get one shot at the end zone. If he slides at the 30 it's not much different than the 25. Of course, that's easy to say from my couch.


It's a different kind of call, but yeah, it can certainly work if executed right.

It wasn't.

Dak, as you write, ran way too far then failed to give the ball a ref. He actually gave it to his center who proceeded to get into his stance.

Know the rules. Know the situation.

Dak failed on both.
RE: Question - WHO CALLED the STUPID Run Play?  
JohnF : 1/17/2022 10:08 am : link
In comment 15557282 ZogZerg said:
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Was it McCarthy, who they may can for the OC?

Or, was it the OC, that they may hire as their next head coach?

This is an important question that needs to be discussed.


Has it been confirmed that the call was from the sidelines? Or did Dak check off to a QB run? The confusion by the players at the Line of Scrimmage makes me think that Dak took off on his own, and the staff is covering up for him.

If that play was called in the huddle, you wouldn't have players asking Dak if he was going to spike the ball.
Losing in the playoffs fucking sucks, especially an early out like  
regulator : 1/17/2022 10:22 am : link
Dallas just pulled, with the expectations of at least making some noise. Brutal, brutal loss for them. The schadenfreude is delicious, though. IMO, best Sunday of the season.
They're no different than any other fan forum  
arniefez : 1/17/2022 10:36 am : link
some Raven fans think John Harbaugh should be replaced and a lot of Steeler fans don't like Tomlin. It's not just Cowboy fans or Giant fans. It seems all fans react the same way to losses. Cowboy fans do have a point though. They've won 3 playoff games since 2000. Romo won two and Dak has won one. They've had much more talent than that.

I hope they don't do anything stupid like firing McCarthy. As a Giant fan I think he's good right where he is.
McCarthy called the play  
montanagiant : 1/17/2022 10:56 am : link
He stated that they had practiced it all week to get the timing down. This was one of his arguments to point fingers at the Refs
RE: Where is our playoff meltdown?  
djm : 1/17/2022 11:00 am : link
In comment 15557033 Rob in Rockaway said:
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Oh that's right we were 4-13...


Do you feel better now that you reminded us all something we all knew already?
RE: McCarthy called the play  
Big Al : 1/17/2022 11:05 am : link
In comment 15557551 montanagiant said:
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He stated that they had practiced it all week to get the timing down. This was one of his arguments to point fingers at the Refs
I wonder whether he calculated how long the qb would run, exactly how much time they had snd advising the line to block the Umpire possibly assuming the Umpire could jump over the linemen rather than wasting time pushing them aside.
Agree  
PaulN : 1/17/2022 11:07 am : link
Cowboy fans should be furious, they lost this game because McCarthy is a horrible head coach.
They lost the game because their star’s didn’t show up  
Rick in Dallas : 1/17/2022 11:10 am : link
And they play undisciplined football. Players play coaches coach.
Where were the players????
Of course it sounds like any game losing board  
gtt350 : 1/17/2022 11:14 am : link
but it's the Cowboys. Eric hit the nail on the head, the game thread was going to blow up.
So now enjoy
Let's layoff McCarthy  
arniefez : 1/17/2022 11:18 am : link
I think he's doing an excellent job and want him to stay right were he is.
Dallas right now reminds me of the old Eagles teams ...  
Manny in CA : 1/17/2022 11:27 am : link

Who used to send half their team to the Pro Bowl, every year, while the Super Bowl teams were busy practicing for their February date.
Skip Bayliss  
Big Blue '56 : 1/17/2022 11:28 am : link
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Bayless, whose reaction came in a series of tweets:

WHAT??????? THE UMPIRE KNOCKED DAK OVER. DAK WAS READY. THE UMPIRE WAS LATE!!! HE DID NOT DO HIS JOB QUICKLY ENOUGH. COWBOYS SHOULD’VE HAD ONE SHOT AT THE END ZONE FROM THE 20. DOABLE!!! JUST ABSURD.

I’ll be the first to admit the Cowboys didn’t deserve to win after committing 14 penalties. BUT THEY DID DESERVE THAT LAST SHOT TO PULL OFF THE MIRACLE. THE UMPIRE BLEW IT. THEY WERE ROBBED OF A SHOT AT YET ANOTHER COWBOYS-49ERS STUNNER. JUST MAKES ME BLEEPIN SICK.

IS IT THE COWBOYS’ FAULT THAT THE UMPIRE WASN’T CAPABLE OF KEEPING UP WITH THE PLAY? HE SHOULD’VE BEEN FOLLOWING DAK ON A DEAD SPRINT. IF HE HAD, HE WOULD’VE HAD TIME TO SET THE BALL BEFORE DAK’S SPIKE. INSTEAD, WE GOT SCREWED

Thank God  
DC Gmen Fan : 1/17/2022 11:33 am : link
BBI never melts down like that...
Stevie A  
Big Blue '56 : 1/17/2022 11:35 am : link
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Now, Smith, whose reaction came in the form of a video he posted on Twitter with the caption, “I TOLD Y’ALL!!!!!!!” The clip began with him laughing for 10 seconds:

“Didn’t I tell ya! Didn’t I tell ya! All year long, while everybody was raving those ‘Boys in Big D, what did your boy Stephen A. say? They ain’t even gonna win a playoff game! And sure enough, right on schedule, right when it really, really counted, they crashed like a cheap tent in inclement weather! All I got to say is two things: How ‘bout them Cowboys! See you on ‘First Take’ (Monday). Your boy is back. Right on time.”

RE: Skip Bayliss  
Big Al : 1/17/2022 11:48 am : link
In comment 15557599 Big Blue '56 said:
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Bayless, whose reaction came in a series of tweets:

WHAT??????? THE UMPIRE KNOCKED DAK OVER. DAK WAS READY. THE UMPIRE WAS LATE!!! HE DID NOT DO HIS JOB QUICKLY ENOUGH. COWBOYS SHOULD’VE HAD ONE SHOT AT THE END ZONE FROM THE 20. DOABLE!!! JUST ABSURD.

I’ll be the first to admit the Cowboys didn’t deserve to win after committing 14 penalties. BUT THEY DID DESERVE THAT LAST SHOT TO PULL OFF THE MIRACLE. THE UMPIRE BLEW IT. THEY WERE ROBBED OF A SHOT AT YET ANOTHER COWBOYS-49ERS STUNNER. JUST MAKES ME BLEEPIN SICK.

IS IT THE COWBOYS’ FAULT THAT THE UMPIRE WASN’T CAPABLE OF KEEPING UP WITH THE PLAY? HE SHOULD’VE BEEN FOLLOWING DAK ON A DEAD SPRINT. IF HE HAD, HE WOULD’VE HAD TIME TO SET THE BALL BEFORE DAK’S SPIKE. INSTEAD, WE GOT SCREWED



What a stupid comment.Each official has official duties to watch things. I don’t think a duty is to follow a runner during the play in full sprint, while ignoring his assigned duties (watching for holding, etc.). The Umpire did come in full sprint after the play ended but was blocked by the offense line and had the nerve to push them aside to get to the ball as soon as possible. If Edwin Moses was the umpire, he would have sprinted faster and hurdled the line and got it done in tome.
RE: RE: No different than your average week  
Beer Man : 1/17/2022 11:56 am : link
In comment 15557344 Mike from Ohio said:
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on BBI



Yeah we have several fans here who believe the refs screw the Giants out of wins all the time. It is usually the same posters week after week blaming every close loss on one or two calls that go against them and ignore the one or two that went in our favor.
True that, but I was referring in general to the year long meltdown that has been going on, on BBI, and not about the refs.
RE: RE: McCarthy called the play  
montanagiant : 1/17/2022 11:57 am : link
In comment 15557565 Big Al said:
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He stated that they had practiced it all week to get the timing down. This was one of his arguments to point fingers at the Refs

I wonder whether he calculated how long the qb would run, exactly how much time they had snd advising the line to block the Umpire possibly assuming the Umpire could jump over the linemen rather than wasting time pushing them aside.

Yeah, he was full of shit. They probably talked about it and drew it up but to call that with only 14 seconds left was highly risky on its own, to then have your QB run 6 yards too many and forget to hand the ball to the Ref is inexcusable
Romo caled it as it was happening  
gtt350 : 1/17/2022 12:06 pm : link
with 6 seconds left he's "oh oh they're not going to make it"
Chris Simms tweet from about 25 minutes ago.  
Big Al : 1/17/2022 12:09 pm : link
Coaches I've worked with...Josh McDaniels, Jon Gruden, Bill Belichick...17 or 18 seconds was the line of demarcation for being able to get a play down the middle and still spike the ball. Cowboys doing it with 14 seconds shows they don't know the mechanics of that play.”
I second this response to that tweet.  
Big Al : 1/17/2022 12:13 pm : link
“Says a lot about umpire Ramon George who damn near had that ball ready for play.”
RE: I called it as soon  
djm : 1/17/2022 12:15 pm : link
In comment 15557217 UberAlias said:
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As the “most talented team in the NFL” hype started swirling. It’s like watching reruns of scooby doo. The same thing over and over again


I love the scooby doo analogy it’s perfect. Jerry jones playing the villain of course —-“those pesky kids”
A lot of god stuff on Twitter.  
Big Al : 1/17/2022 12:18 pm : link
I like this comment about how to deal with umpires.

“ Belichick would have lined them up for a 40 yard dash before the game and recorded their times.”
RE: Let's layoff McCarthy  
djm : 1/17/2022 12:35 pm : link
In comment 15557582 arniefez said:
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I think he's doing an excellent job and want him to stay right were he is.


I pretty much agree. Go ahead and overreact Dallas. I hope they do just that. If they don’t do anything guess where they likely will be next year. Right back in the playoffs.

But this is a time for joy. Rejoice.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/17/2022 1:15 pm : link
26 seasons & counting for Dallas not even advancing to conference championship game.

You hate to see it...
That ump did his job  
UConn4523 : 1/17/2022 1:18 pm : link
not his fault Dak didn’t know the rules (up needs to spot so putting it down wasted time). McCarty and Dak share the blame for the call and execution, 100% on them and not the ref.
RE: I called it as soon  
mittenedman : 1/17/2022 1:27 pm : link
In comment 15557217 UberAlias said:
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As the “most talented team in the NFL” hype started swirling. It’s like watching reruns of scooby doo. The same thing over and over again


+1. I was shocked hearing Aikman annoint them as a dynasty early this year. This Cowboys team is/was no different than any of the others that fell way short. They always seem to have the same team. T.O. done? Bring in Dez Bryant and now CeeDee Lamb. Flozell, Gurode & Leonard Davis out? Smith, Frederick & Martin in. Romo's done? Dak's ready. Barber to Murray to Elliot at RB. Hell - even the scheme stays relatively the same.

It's the same explosive, pain in the ass team every year. And they fall way short every year, too. But for some reason Cowboys nation was smitten by this team. It's carbon copy.
RE: Sounds like a typical BBI post-game  
aka dbrny : 1/17/2022 1:29 pm : link
In comment 15557030 Jim in Fairfax said:
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This
RE: The majority of Cowboy fans in Texas know their football  
aka dbrny : 1/17/2022 1:31 pm : link
In comment 15557257 Rick in Dallas said:
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It's the bandwagon Cowboy fans that give the real Cowboy fans a bad rap.
Honestly, you can't go 1 and 4 against teams with at least 10 wins and expect to win the SB.
Yesterday's outcome was so predictable and delicious happening in AT&T Stadium.


Not sure that's as true as it used to be. The Giants looked pretty iffy and went in as a wildcard in both years they won the SuperBowl if memory serves me
sorry  
aka dbrny : 1/17/2022 1:34 pm : link
both times they won the Super Bowl under Coughlin with Manning
Cowboy fans  
noro9 : 1/17/2022 3:29 pm : link
Want to blow up their team and we would be thrilled with a completed pass for a first down
RE: RE: Skip Bayliss  
Keyser : 1/17/2022 5:17 pm : link
In comment 15557638 Big Al said:
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Bayless, whose reaction came in a series of tweets:

WHAT??????? THE UMPIRE KNOCKED DAK OVER. DAK WAS READY. THE UMPIRE WAS LATE!!! HE DID NOT DO HIS JOB QUICKLY ENOUGH. COWBOYS SHOULD’VE HAD ONE SHOT AT THE END ZONE FROM THE 20. DOABLE!!! JUST ABSURD.

I’ll be the first to admit the Cowboys didn’t deserve to win after committing 14 penalties. BUT THEY DID DESERVE THAT LAST SHOT TO PULL OFF THE MIRACLE. THE UMPIRE BLEW IT. THEY WERE ROBBED OF A SHOT AT YET ANOTHER COWBOYS-49ERS STUNNER. JUST MAKES ME BLEEPIN SICK.

IS IT THE COWBOYS’ FAULT THAT THE UMPIRE WASN’T CAPABLE OF KEEPING UP WITH THE PLAY? HE SHOULD’VE BEEN FOLLOWING DAK ON A DEAD SPRINT. IF HE HAD, HE WOULD’VE HAD TIME TO SET THE BALL BEFORE DAK’S SPIKE. INSTEAD, WE GOT SCREWED





What a stupid comment.Each official has official duties to watch things. I don’t think a duty is to follow a runner during the play in full sprint, while ignoring his assigned duties (watching for holding, etc.). The Umpire did come in full sprint after the play ended but was blocked by the offense line and had the nerve to push them aside to get to the ball as soon as possible. If Edwin Moses was the umpire, he would have sprinted faster and hurdled the line and got it done in tome.


I just rewatched the play. Dak starts his slide before the 25 (you can even see turf marks where he starts his slide if you look closely enough) and the center tried to spot it at the 23 1/2, about 2 yards forward. The umpires instinct is going to be to spot it correctly even if in a hurry, certainly if there is such a large discrepancy. You can't just let the center spot the ball where he feels like it, even if the NFL generally gives some leeway in these situations. Also, given the spot, a number of Cowboys were lined up in the neutral zone. One of the 49er defensive ends is clearly complaining about that to the refs before realizing that it didn't matter.
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