NYG - Full teardown
DAL - Do they move McCarthy? Can they resign players like Gallup?
WAS - Draft a QB? Sign a QB?
PHI - Is Hurts their guy? Do they use a 1st on someone like WIllis to groom?
If McCarthy gets canned, I could see Tomlin scheming to get that job.
Washington and Philly need QB upgrades. The sad part on all of this is how far removed from all 3 teams are the NYG.
Giants - need a full teardown but probably has to be done over two years as too much money on cap to do it all in 2022. A good amount amortizes off this year so can deal with a lot of these contracts next year.
Dallas - I see coaching staff sticking. Will need to think of life after Zeke and put a new RB in place soon.
Wash/Phil - One if not both of these teams bringing in a veteran QB that shakes loose. Wilson maybe?
The first of these teams to find a good quarterback will be the first to have real success. Right now, the three other teams have better complementary talent on the field, but they still aren't great because they lack good quarterback play.
who are going full teardown, I don't see too much changing.
I think Dallas remains the cream of the NFC East. With Gallup's torn ACL, they most likely won't re-sign him, but their other young WR's are free agents and would be interesting depth signings (I do see them retaining 1 or 2). Cedrick Wilson/Noah Brown/Malik Turner is that UFA grouping of WR's, all 26 and under. I think they already have the 1B RB in house in Pollard, and with the line in tact, I still see them having a strong running game.
Philly is an interesting case. I don't think anyone saw them making the playoffs this year, and now they'll start the offseason with picks 15, 16, and 18 in the 1st round, after making a playoff move. You can easily pick up a QB to groom if you're ready to move on from Hurts, as well as bolstering multiple other position groups. You have to imagine bringing in WR help opposite Smith is a priority.
Washington is an unknown. Really solid DL, though Young's recovery will be key. Do they make a run at re-signing Scherff? He's a major piece of that OL, and had a lot to do with Gibson's late season success. I think Heineke is better served as a backup, and an admirable fill in, but Fitz was supposed to be the guy for a year, and obviously couldn't do it. I can see them looking at QB, or bringing in another vet. Just like Philly, I think a priority for them will be bringing in some talent opposite McLaurin. Samuel flamed out in year 1 as a big FA pickup.
Dallas needs a coach. Maybe Quinn? Talent is pretty good and I like Dak.
Washington- Need QB and to cut down on injuries
Eagles- Need QB, Hurts is what he is. Need some better defensive players as well.
Giants - We all know what is needed and its a lot.
NYG: They will sell us on a "reload" but I think 2022 is already written off. We're going to rebuild.
WFT: Honestly, get them a real QB, keep them healthy and bolster some positions and they can be competitive quickly.
PHI: The main question is whether or not they believe in Hurts. My gut says they're involved in any available trades for a veteran QB. That would make them a much better team.
DAL: Jones mulls firing McCarthy but decides to hang with him for one more year with a "win now" mandate. They have some FA decisions and their OL is aging, they take slight step back next season and McCarthy is fired mid way.
East has today which is clear. Underwhelming coaching and mediocre rosters (mostly because of the QB position). The East as a whole need to improve those two areas.
Unless the new GM and HC come in and feel its necessary. I wrote last night I am not as opposed to acquiring a vet QB on the trade market b/c this division is bad and the Giants can assert themselves by getting a top 10 -12 quarterback.
I can't take another 2-3 years of losing. I understand this team isn't necessarily close to winning a title, I'm talking more from emotion than logic but man getting Deshaun Watson or Russell Wilson would give this dead franchise some life.
NYG: rebuild, try to get above .500 next year. Need an identity more than anything else (except QB1). To me, the entire Giants organization are a bunch of wussies. Soft and stupid are no way to win in the NFL. Get some fucking balls for this organization please. Hopefully some brains too. But what I’m really tired of is all the ass thrashing’s this organization takes from ownership on down. Remember when the Giants were tough? Yeah, me neither.
PHI: need a QB. I hate to say it but the Iggles are a good organization. They did a lot with not much this year. Everyone here who talked about injuries and little talent and learning on the job coaches - get a look at what Philly did this year. They have three first round picks in the draft if I’m not mistaken. They’re the odds on favorite to win the division if you ask me. Fuck the Philthy dirty green birds and all their knuckle dragging felonious Philly fans.
WFT: dumpster fire and Ron Rivera can’t put it out. Synder is trash and gasoline and dog shit mixed together. Burn baby burn! They might fight to the middle of the pack but I don’t see this team challenging for a top tier anytime soon.
DAL: probably the most interesting team in the division to fix. Wasn’t Kellen Moore supposed to be some kind of genius? Forget about the last play of the game. Why didn’t they throw the ball to Cooper or CC or Schultz? Where was Pollard in that game? I don’t know if I’ve seen a worse offensive game plan all season - and that’s saying a lot because I watched every Giants game. People will say fire McCarthy and sure because that team wasn’t ready yesterday. But I think Moore let them down yesterday too. I also think he’s too young to run the show. And what Jones will probably do is fire the fat man and promote Moore. Dan Quinn’s a lock apparently to go to Denver but maybe Jerah pays him to be HC? Dak was horrible, Zeke looks burnt but there’s talent at the other skills and plenty of talent on the defense. Pokes are most talented team but that can all change in a season.
Finish next year? I got the Iggles, Pokes, Giants, Washington Shitstains.
If McCarthy gets canned, I could see Tomlin scheming to get that job.
Washington and Philly need QB upgrades. The sad part on all of this is how far removed from all 3 teams are the NYG.
Scheming? He wouldn’t need any scheme, that man could pick any spot he wanted. Out loud, no scheme needed..he’s an all time winner and that’s why he’ll stay in Pitt. He’s a legend forever there…never had a losing season yet, even with some average at best teams. He made it with Big Ben this year and that guy just physically looks done…Tomlin is an excellent leader and almost every team in the league would happily trade coaches for him IMO
If McCarthy gets canned, I could see Tomlin scheming to get that job.
Washington and Philly need QB upgrades. The sad part on all of this is how far removed from all 3 teams are the NYG.
Why would Tomlin leave one of the most stable coaching situations in the NFL to one of the most volatile?
Giants - need a full teardown but probably has to be done over two years as too much money on cap to do it all in 2022. A good amount amortizes off this year so can deal with a lot of these contracts next year.
Dallas - I see coaching staff sticking. Will need to think of life after Zeke and put a new RB in place soon.
Wash/Phil - One if not both of these teams bringing in a veteran QB that shakes loose. Wilson maybe?
Dallas already has the RB to supplant Zeke. Pollard is already better. That let's them reduce Zeke's carries.
I think WFT, with a bonafide QB would be the team to beat
in the NFC East. I think they’re ready to win now however and would probably be in the market for a veteran QB and possibly draft a guy to groom. Dallas appears to be a team on the brink of backsliding, but we’ll see, they do have some talent still there and as long as their line is in tact, they’ll be competitive. Philly is another team that needs a QB. Giants have the least talent and as certainly going to be bottoms dwellers for the foreseeable future, until they can solidify their lines O and D.
Giants - need a full teardown but probably has to be done over two years as too much money on cap to do it all in 2022. A good amount amortizes off this year so can deal with a lot of these contracts next year.
Dallas - I see coaching staff sticking. Will need to think of life after Zeke and put a new RB in place soon.
Wash/Phil - One if not both of these teams bringing in a veteran QB that shakes loose. Wilson maybe?
Dallas already has the RB to supplant Zeke. Pollard is already better. That let's them reduce Zeke's carries.
Pollard has talent but will want someone with a bit more size that runs inside more often. Could see them going RB or start getting a new OT ready to replace Smith.
I think might consider trading for Wilson. 2 1sts this year and maybe another later pick? They have cap space. That would be pretty nasty.
Washington i assume is hopeless. They do have some good players but still need a QB. You have to be really smart, effective, and lucky to build and maintain a roster that can compete without a QB. They're not that.
Dallas should fire McCarthy and run it back. They're good. They're just way too sloppy.
Giants? We'll see. We've been led by the dumbest GM in the league for 4 years. We will be smarter now. To me it's a full rebuild. Need a QB, OL, and pass rush. The 3 hardest things to get. It's going to be a while for us.
Giants - need a full teardown but probably has to be done over two years as too much money on cap to do it all in 2022. A good amount amortizes off this year so can deal with a lot of these contracts next year.
Dallas - I see coaching staff sticking. Will need to think of life after Zeke and put a new RB in place soon.
Wash/Phil - One if not both of these teams bringing in a veteran QB that shakes loose. Wilson maybe?
Dallas already has the RB to supplant Zeke. Pollard is already better. That let's them reduce Zeke's carries.
Pollard has talent but will want someone with a bit more size that runs inside more often. Could see them going RB or start getting a new OT ready to replace Smith.
Why do they need to move on from the tandem of Pollard and Zeke? Zeke isn't going anywhere next year due to his cap hit. The year after is when they need to replace him.
Giants, I see them turning the corner with a new GM and a veteran HC. Possibly retaining Graham as DC. Will fix the offensive line in FA and the draft and we will see a new Daniel Jones in 22. Dont see a single FA the Giants bring back. Consider trading Barkley...
Cowboys will regress, they will fire McCarthy and promote Moore or Quinn. I agree that Pollard is the RB of the future but Jones has too much allegiance to Zeke to make a switch. There's some regression coming for that great offensive line in Dallas
Washington will be interesting as I'm not so sure Snyder is going to own the team much longer, the heat is getting hotter on him for all the controversy. If he goes then that team goes through a huge rebuild
Philly is wildcard for me. I dont think Hurts is the guy but they are set nicely everywhere else and this draft could put them over the top. Could see Watson going to Philly.
Giants - Not a full teardown due to cap considerations. Draft ol and
Philly and Wash are smarter organizations but their QB situations will hold them back until addressed. NYG in a much better spot than people realize if we make smart decisions in the next couple weeks.
I think might consider trading for Wilson. 2 1sts this year and maybe another later pick? They have cap space. That would be pretty nasty.
Washington i assume is hopeless. They do have some good players but still need a QB. You have to be really smart, effective, and lucky to build and maintain a roster that can compete without a QB. They're not that.
Dallas should fire McCarthy and run it back. They're good. They're just way too sloppy.
Giants? We'll see. We've been led by the dumbest GM in the league for 4 years. We will be smarter now. To me it's a full rebuild. Need a QB, OL, and pass rush. The 3 hardest things to get. It's going to be a while for us.
Philly actually makes the most sense for a Wilson trade. They can trade 2 #1 picks this year and maybe eve Hurts plus future picks and still have a #1 this year.
Seattle could get a good haul, get back the #1 pick they gave up to the Jets and start their rebuild.
I can definitely see Russell Wilson to Eagles and with
#1)Dallas: will stay another year with McCarthy, who will post another 12 win season, and get fired after another consecutive 1st round playoff exit. If they falter during the season, McCarthy will get canned earlier.
#2)WFT: May pick up one of the QB's in the Draft (Pickett?), and reload on defense.
#3)Philly: This might get interesting. I think the Eagles have to firepower to go after Watson (3 1st round draft choices), and as we saw with Vick, their front office could care less about Watson's rep. The only fly there is that Watson needs to ensure he can survive the lawsuits. I think Philly won't mind a suspension, since it probably won't last longer than six games. They are looking long term to solve their QB position.
#4)Giants: If the organization is serious, they need to do a full strip down and rebuild (or at least as much as possible). Do NOT extend cap resources into 2023 if possible. NO reload!!!!!
Keep Jones as caretaker QB (he's still cheap), and trade as many players as possible (Barley, etc) for 2023 draft choices. Play as many 2022 draft choices as you can, to get them ready for 2023.
The results will be a 3-14 or 4-13 season...BUT...you'll have the foundation for a massive 2023 cap splurge, and possibly one of the top QB's in a decent QB draft. If you try to rebuild, you're just extending the pain from a 2-3 year turn around to a 3-5 year turn around.
Better to take the medicine now, it won't taste any better later on. We've tried a reload for the last 10 years, time to do it the right way!
Others have said it here but I will chime in. We are so bad and have been so poorly managed for the last ..well forever but look at gettleman's drafts. Almost all misses just horrendous. Please...Please we need a complete tear down. Please.
Dallas Cowboys postmortem
The Cowboys will have some tough decisions this off season
Dallas is projected to be ($13,592,462) over the CAP
Dallas has 24 free agents including many key players Keanu Neal Leighton Vander Esch Cedrick Wilson Jr.
Carlos Watkins
Ty Nsekhe
Brent Urban Connor Williams
Maurice Canady
Jayron Kearse
Damontae Kazee
Noah Brown
Jake McQuaide Bryan Anger Randy Gregory Corey Clement
Jeremy Sprinkle
Malik Turner
Malik Hooker Michael Gallup
Dorance Armstrong Jr. Dalton Schultz
Francis Bernard
Luke Gifford
Mitch Hyatt
It is likely that the Cowboys will lose some key players
The Cowboys may lose both of their coordinators and a key member of their management team
This seems like business as usual for the Cowboys
Washington and Philly need QB upgrades. The sad part on all of this is how far removed from all 3 teams are the NYG.
Dallas - I see coaching staff sticking. Will need to think of life after Zeke and put a new RB in place soon.
Wash/Phil - One if not both of these teams bringing in a veteran QB that shakes loose. Wilson maybe?
I think Dallas remains the cream of the NFC East. With Gallup's torn ACL, they most likely won't re-sign him, but their other young WR's are free agents and would be interesting depth signings (I do see them retaining 1 or 2). Cedrick Wilson/Noah Brown/Malik Turner is that UFA grouping of WR's, all 26 and under. I think they already have the 1B RB in house in Pollard, and with the line in tact, I still see them having a strong running game.
Philly is an interesting case. I don't think anyone saw them making the playoffs this year, and now they'll start the offseason with picks 15, 16, and 18 in the 1st round, after making a playoff move. You can easily pick up a QB to groom if you're ready to move on from Hurts, as well as bolstering multiple other position groups. You have to imagine bringing in WR help opposite Smith is a priority.
Washington is an unknown. Really solid DL, though Young's recovery will be key. Do they make a run at re-signing Scherff? He's a major piece of that OL, and had a lot to do with Gibson's late season success. I think Heineke is better served as a backup, and an admirable fill in, but Fitz was supposed to be the guy for a year, and obviously couldn't do it. I can see them looking at QB, or bringing in another vet. Just like Philly, I think a priority for them will be bringing in some talent opposite McLaurin. Samuel flamed out in year 1 as a big FA pickup.
Washington- Need QB and to cut down on injuries
Eagles- Need QB, Hurts is what he is. Need some better defensive players as well.
Giants - We all know what is needed and its a lot.
WFT: Honestly, get them a real QB, keep them healthy and bolster some positions and they can be competitive quickly.
PHI: The main question is whether or not they believe in Hurts. My gut says they're involved in any available trades for a veteran QB. That would make them a much better team.
DAL: Jones mulls firing McCarthy but decides to hang with him for one more year with a "win now" mandate. They have some FA decisions and their OL is aging, they take slight step back next season and McCarthy is fired mid way.
I can't take another 2-3 years of losing. I understand this team isn't necessarily close to winning a title, I'm talking more from emotion than logic but man getting Deshaun Watson or Russell Wilson would give this dead franchise some life.
NYG: rebuild, try to get above .500 next year. Need an identity more than anything else (except QB1). To me, the entire Giants organization are a bunch of wussies. Soft and stupid are no way to win in the NFL. Get some fucking balls for this organization please. Hopefully some brains too. But what I’m really tired of is all the ass thrashing’s this organization takes from ownership on down. Remember when the Giants were tough? Yeah, me neither.
PHI: need a QB. I hate to say it but the Iggles are a good organization. They did a lot with not much this year. Everyone here who talked about injuries and little talent and learning on the job coaches - get a look at what Philly did this year. They have three first round picks in the draft if I’m not mistaken. They’re the odds on favorite to win the division if you ask me. Fuck the Philthy dirty green birds and all their knuckle dragging felonious Philly fans.
WFT: dumpster fire and Ron Rivera can’t put it out. Synder is trash and gasoline and dog shit mixed together. Burn baby burn! They might fight to the middle of the pack but I don’t see this team challenging for a top tier anytime soon.
DAL: probably the most interesting team in the division to fix. Wasn’t Kellen Moore supposed to be some kind of genius? Forget about the last play of the game. Why didn’t they throw the ball to Cooper or CC or Schultz? Where was Pollard in that game? I don’t know if I’ve seen a worse offensive game plan all season - and that’s saying a lot because I watched every Giants game. People will say fire McCarthy and sure because that team wasn’t ready yesterday. But I think Moore let them down yesterday too. I also think he’s too young to run the show. And what Jones will probably do is fire the fat man and promote Moore. Dan Quinn’s a lock apparently to go to Denver but maybe Jerah pays him to be HC? Dak was horrible, Zeke looks burnt but there’s talent at the other skills and plenty of talent on the defense. Pokes are most talented team but that can all change in a season.
Finish next year? I got the Iggles, Pokes, Giants, Washington Shitstains.
Washington and Philly need QB upgrades. The sad part on all of this is how far removed from all 3 teams are the NYG.
Scheming? He wouldn’t need any scheme, that man could pick any spot he wanted. Out loud, no scheme needed..he’s an all time winner and that’s why he’ll stay in Pitt. He’s a legend forever there…never had a losing season yet, even with some average at best teams. He made it with Big Ben this year and that guy just physically looks done…Tomlin is an excellent leader and almost every team in the league would happily trade coaches for him IMO
Washington and Philly need QB upgrades. The sad part on all of this is how far removed from all 3 teams are the NYG.
Why would Tomlin leave one of the most stable coaching situations in the NFL to one of the most volatile?
Dallas - I see coaching staff sticking. Will need to think of life after Zeke and put a new RB in place soon.
Wash/Phil - One if not both of these teams bringing in a veteran QB that shakes loose. Wilson maybe?
Dallas already has the RB to supplant Zeke. Pollard is already better. That let's them reduce Zeke's carries.
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Giants - need a full teardown but probably has to be done over two years as too much money on cap to do it all in 2022. A good amount amortizes off this year so can deal with a lot of these contracts next year.
Dallas - I see coaching staff sticking. Will need to think of life after Zeke and put a new RB in place soon.
Wash/Phil - One if not both of these teams bringing in a veteran QB that shakes loose. Wilson maybe?
Dallas already has the RB to supplant Zeke. Pollard is already better. That let's them reduce Zeke's carries.
Pollard has talent but will want someone with a bit more size that runs inside more often. Could see them going RB or start getting a new OT ready to replace Smith.
Washington i assume is hopeless. They do have some good players but still need a QB. You have to be really smart, effective, and lucky to build and maintain a roster that can compete without a QB. They're not that.
Dallas should fire McCarthy and run it back. They're good. They're just way too sloppy.
Giants? We'll see. We've been led by the dumbest GM in the league for 4 years. We will be smarter now. To me it's a full rebuild. Need a QB, OL, and pass rush. The 3 hardest things to get. It's going to be a while for us.
Realistically, we retool and build the OL for 22 and in 23 we get a qb and begin to compete.
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Giants - need a full teardown but probably has to be done over two years as too much money on cap to do it all in 2022. A good amount amortizes off this year so can deal with a lot of these contracts next year.
Dallas - I see coaching staff sticking. Will need to think of life after Zeke and put a new RB in place soon.
Wash/Phil - One if not both of these teams bringing in a veteran QB that shakes loose. Wilson maybe?
Dallas already has the RB to supplant Zeke. Pollard is already better. That let's them reduce Zeke's carries.
Pollard has talent but will want someone with a bit more size that runs inside more often. Could see them going RB or start getting a new OT ready to replace Smith.
Why do they need to move on from the tandem of Pollard and Zeke? Zeke isn't going anywhere next year due to his cap hit. The year after is when they need to replace him.
Cowboys will regress, they will fire McCarthy and promote Moore or Quinn. I agree that Pollard is the RB of the future but Jones has too much allegiance to Zeke to make a switch. There's some regression coming for that great offensive line in Dallas
Washington will be interesting as I'm not so sure Snyder is going to own the team much longer, the heat is getting hotter on him for all the controversy. If he goes then that team goes through a huge rebuild
Philly is wildcard for me. I dont think Hurts is the guy but they are set nicely everywhere else and this draft could put them over the top. Could see Watson going to Philly.
Dallas - They always work through cap difficulties and sign who they want.
Philly - Sign or draft a qb
Wash - Same as Philly
Washington i assume is hopeless. They do have some good players but still need a QB. You have to be really smart, effective, and lucky to build and maintain a roster that can compete without a QB. They're not that.
Dallas should fire McCarthy and run it back. They're good. They're just way too sloppy.
Giants? We'll see. We've been led by the dumbest GM in the league for 4 years. We will be smarter now. To me it's a full rebuild. Need a QB, OL, and pass rush. The 3 hardest things to get. It's going to be a while for us.
Philly actually makes the most sense for a Wilson trade. They can trade 2 #1 picks this year and maybe eve Hurts plus future picks and still have a #1 this year.
Seattle could get a good haul, get back the #1 pick they gave up to the Jets and start their rebuild.
They add Wilson, maybe another WR and somebody at LB and they have a pretty decent team...
Announcers talk about those first round picks a lot like how they talk about Saquan Barkley - all about what it could/used to be and not what it is.
#2)WFT: May pick up one of the QB's in the Draft (Pickett?), and reload on defense.
#3)Philly: This might get interesting. I think the Eagles have to firepower to go after Watson (3 1st round draft choices), and as we saw with Vick, their front office could care less about Watson's rep. The only fly there is that Watson needs to ensure he can survive the lawsuits. I think Philly won't mind a suspension, since it probably won't last longer than six games. They are looking long term to solve their QB position.
#4)Giants: If the organization is serious, they need to do a full strip down and rebuild (or at least as much as possible). Do NOT extend cap resources into 2023 if possible. NO reload!!!!!
Keep Jones as caretaker QB (he's still cheap), and trade as many players as possible (Barley, etc) for 2023 draft choices. Play as many 2022 draft choices as you can, to get them ready for 2023.
The results will be a 3-14 or 4-13 season...BUT...you'll have the foundation for a massive 2023 cap splurge, and possibly one of the top QB's in a decent QB draft. If you try to rebuild, you're just extending the pain from a 2-3 year turn around to a 3-5 year turn around.
Better to take the medicine now, it won't taste any better later on. We've tried a reload for the last 10 years, time to do it the right way!
The Cowboys will have some tough decisions this off season
Dallas is projected to be ($13,592,462) over the CAP
Dallas has 24 free agents including many key players
Keanu Neal
Leighton Vander Esch
Cedrick Wilson Jr.
Carlos Watkins
Ty Nsekhe
Brent Urban
Connor Williams
Maurice Canady
Jayron Kearse
Damontae Kazee
Noah Brown
Jake McQuaide
Bryan Anger
Randy Gregory
Corey Clement
Jeremy Sprinkle
Malik Turner
Malik Hooker
Michael Gallup
Dorance Armstrong Jr.
Dalton Schultz
Francis Bernard
Luke Gifford
Mitch Hyatt
It is likely that the Cowboys will lose some key players
The Cowboys may lose both of their coordinators and a key member of their management team
This seems like business as usual for the Cowboys