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Pro Football Rumors says Flores/Watson are in play

MattyKid : 1/17/2022 12:08 pm
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Zero chance  
Big Blue '56 : 1/17/2022 12:09 pm : link
Mara and co., even go near Watson
Can't see the Giants  
Giantimistic : 1/17/2022 12:12 pm : link
Going all in on Watson and Handing him the Job.
Watson  
GiantsRage2007 : 1/17/2022 12:12 pm : link
Might be in prison the next 20 years for all we know
It doesn't really say that.  
Mad Mike : 1/17/2022 12:13 pm : link
It says Flores is a possibility for the Giants, and that Flores and Watson want to pair up. It doesn't say anything about the Giants being open to the possibility of Watson.
Where theres smoke  
BleedBlue : 1/17/2022 12:14 pm : link
Sorry but i would be fuckin ecstatic if this happened. Youre talking about a 25 yr old qb who is top 5 in the game if not top 3. You secure the most important position on field for 10 yrs plus. This is how you right the ship quickly
If we can do it and keep ONE of our firsts this year...you do it and draft the best OL avail. Watson immediately makes barkley and golladay better. He does more with less.
Its a regurgitation of a report over the weekend  
Snablats : 1/17/2022 12:15 pm : link
Which was already covered here in a thread. Sites like that just gather news and re-report it. Everything on a site like that has already been a thread here
people are delusional  
blueblood : 1/17/2022 12:16 pm : link
have they even looked at Watsons contract and our cap ?
A quarter of the league is looking for a new coach  
j_rud : 1/17/2022 12:17 pm : link
and there are absolutely no consequences for rumor, speculation, and conjecture. Buckle up. The next 2 weeks are gonna be a trip.
RE: people are delusional  
BleedBlue : 1/17/2022 12:20 pm : link
In comment 15557680 blueblood said:
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have they even looked at Watsons contract and our cap ?


Why cant he restructure? We can push that money back. Dudes 25.

We also have ways to clear cap. What if barkley is sent to Houston?

The cap is a nonissue
Any speculation  
Gman11 : 1/17/2022 12:20 pm : link
on who the Giants hire as coach is stupid until they hire a new GM.
It  
Toth029 : 1/17/2022 12:22 pm : link
Is a repeated story from Jordan Schult.

Purely speculation.
RE: Where theres smoke  
djm : 1/17/2022 12:22 pm : link
In comment 15557676 BleedBlue said:
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Sorry but i would be fuckin ecstatic if this happened. Youre talking about a 25 yr old qb who is top 5 in the game if not top 3. You secure the most important position on field for 10 yrs plus. This is how you right the ship quickly
If we can do it and keep ONE of our firsts this year...you do it and draft the best OL avail. Watson immediately makes barkley and golladay better. He does more with less.


Same here. People here are nuts.

Ask yourself this: would Dallas, Philly or wash go after Watson if they needed a qb? You’re damn fucking right they would. Shit one might yet be all in and we don’t even know it.

Enough of this holier than thou bullshit. If Watson has a clear cut LEGAL path back to the nfl we have to explore a trade. Enough already. You trade for him and get out in front it with a transparent deliver to this stupid ass media and he done with it. He’s been cleared. He’s paid his debts. We did our homework and he’s here now. Next fucking question.
They have no gm  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 1/17/2022 12:22 pm : link
at the moment.
JonC has said numerous times  
Jay on the Island : 1/17/2022 12:26 pm : link
that Watson is not going to happen. This is just another example of the media trying to pass along speculation as rumor.
Old news, and yes there isn't the slightest chance that happens  
GFAN52 : 1/17/2022 12:27 pm : link
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Pro Football Rumors  
Mike from Ohio : 1/17/2022 12:27 pm : link
is looking for clicks.

The chance that Mara signs off on bringing in Watson are about the same as him lining up at LB next year.
It always amazes me  
UberAlias : 1/17/2022 12:38 pm : link
How so many in the sports information business have zero clue what they're talking about. But really, you can't blame them. It's the fans that consume their know-nothing bull shit who are at fault.
Uh  
djm : 1/17/2022 12:38 pm : link
I don’t think anyone here knows anything since the GM and HC isn’t even hired yet.
It is a guess based on team who need  
Mike from Ohio : 1/17/2022 12:40 pm : link
a HC and a QB. The Giants meet that description. This is not some insider scoop or pulling the wool over anyone's eyes. It is simply a matter of "where could this happen?"
We know the owner has to sign off on the decision  
UberAlias : 1/17/2022 12:40 pm : link
That's all we need to know.
Great player. Terrible person.  
Heisenberg : 1/17/2022 12:45 pm : link
fuck that guy
Nope  
JonC : 1/17/2022 12:50 pm : link
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From what I hear  
JonC : 1/17/2022 12:51 pm : link
there's no smoke, just the media running with the Flores talk and knowing he wants Watson.
RE: Watson  
Spirit of '86 : 1/17/2022 12:53 pm : link
This is not a criminal case. He is being sued. He will not go to jail. The issue is how much $ he will spend to make this go away legally. Giants should look at this seriously. He is a great QB.

n comment 15557670 GiantsRage2007 said:
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Might be in prison the next 20 years for all we know
JM has already said he doesn't want to  
Dave on the UWS : 1/17/2022 12:55 pm : link
continue making the same mistakes. Well, how they handled the Josh Brown situation was a screw up. Why would they repeat that mess?
Yeah  
DonnieD89 : 1/17/2022 12:56 pm : link
Yeah….Let’s invest in a QB that maybe going to prison. With all the incompetence with the Giants organization, can’t afford another mistake.
I’d be all for Watson  
cjac : 1/17/2022 12:57 pm : link
But how in the hell is he going to clean up his public image?
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/17/2022 12:57 pm : link
I don't see it happening at all.
RE: RE: Watson  
Snablats : 1/17/2022 12:57 pm : link
In comment 15557750 Spirit of '86 said:
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This is not a criminal case. He is being sued. He will not go to jail. The issue is how much $ he will spend to make this go away legally. Giants should look at this seriously. He is a great QB.

n comment 15557670 GiantsRage2007 said:


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Might be in prison the next 20 years for all we know


You want a guy who is being sued by 22 women? Even if he does pay them off, that doesnt change what he did. How can any team take Watson knowing the PR crapstorm that will now follow him?
Parsons was off NYG draft board  
UberAlias : 1/17/2022 1:00 pm : link
And some believe they are going to make massive investment both sal cap $$$ and draft capital on Watson? Sure...
RE: RE: Where theres smoke  
joeinpa : 1/17/2022 1:00 pm : link
In comment 15557692 djm said:
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Sorry but i would be fuckin ecstatic if this happened. Youre talking about a 25 yr old qb who is top 5 in the game if not top 3. You secure the most important position on field for 10 yrs plus. This is how you right the ship quickly
If we can do it and keep ONE of our firsts this year...you do it and draft the best OL avail. Watson immediately makes barkley and golladay better. He does more with less.



Same here. People here are nuts.

Ask yourself this: would Dallas, Philly or wash go after Watson if they needed a qb? You’re damn fucking right they would. Shit one might yet be all in and we don’t even know it.

Enough of this holier than thou bullshit. If Watson has a clear cut LEGAL path back to the nfl we have to explore a trade. Enough already. You trade for him and get out in front it with a transparent deliver to this stupid ass media and he done with it. He’s been cleared. He’s paid his debts. We did our homework and he’s here now. Next fucking question.


It s not about holier than thou, it s about will he be eligible to play. Do you know something we don’t.
RE: RE: Where theres smoke  
Snablats : 1/17/2022 1:08 pm : link
In comment 15557692 djm said:
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In comment 15557676 BleedBlue said:


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Sorry but i would be fuckin ecstatic if this happened. Youre talking about a 25 yr old qb who is top 5 in the game if not top 3. You secure the most important position on field for 10 yrs plus. This is how you right the ship quickly
If we can do it and keep ONE of our firsts this year...you do it and draft the best OL avail. Watson immediately makes barkley and golladay better. He does more with less.



Same here. People here are nuts.

Ask yourself this: would Dallas, Philly or wash go after Watson if they needed a qb? You’re damn fucking right they would. Shit one might yet be all in and we don’t even know it.

Enough of this holier than thou bullshit. If Watson has a clear cut LEGAL path back to the nfl we have to explore a trade. Enough already. You trade for him and get out in front it with a transparent deliver to this stupid ass media and he done with it. He’s been cleared. He’s paid his debts. We did our homework and he’s here now. Next fucking question.

His only clear legal path is paying off the women, which doesnt change what he did and certainly doesnt mean he was "cleared" of the charges
Oh  
AcidTest : 1/17/2022 1:08 pm : link
come on. This franchise is a complete shit show right now, a laughing stock that was the worst in the league this year, and has the worst record of any team since 2017. Andrew Thomas had more TD receptions than Toney and Golladay. Combined.

But we're going to trade for Watson and all of his reprehensible baggage, and give up a bazillion draft picks for the right to do so? No way.
RE: RE: people are delusional  
blueblood : 1/17/2022 1:09 pm : link
In comment 15557689 BleedBlue said:
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have they even looked at Watsons contract and our cap ?



Why cant he restructure? We can push that money back. Dudes 25.

We also have ways to clear cap. What if barkley is sent to Houston?

The cap is a nonissue


We gonna clear up space for a 40million dollar contract ?? nah...
To sign Watson. Wed have to at minimum be able to trade  
fanoftheteam : 1/17/2022 1:17 pm : link
LW and JBB I presume?
RE: RE: Watson  
GiantsRage2007 : 1/17/2022 1:27 pm : link
In comment 15557750 Spirit of '86 said:
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This is not a criminal case. He is being sued. He will not go to jail. The issue is how much $ he will spend to make this go away legally. Giants should look at this seriously. He is a great QB.

n comment 15557670 GiantsRage2007 said:


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Might be in prison the next 20 years for all we know



It's been so long since all of that came up I forgot the details of it. Thanks. No doubt he's a great qb. Lots of "baggage".
I thought Mara made it clear  
BlackLight : 1/17/2022 1:28 pm : link
just last week that his role in whether a certain player is brought in would either be as a tiebreaker between his GM and his HC, or as a veto on any player he felt had character issues.

Watson currently has trailing him nearly two dozen separate allegations of sexual misconduct. It might be years before the legal issues are resolved, and even once they are, the NFL is surely going to hammer him with a lengthy suspension. And even after he's finished serving that, questions about his behavior are going to follow him.

I'm reasonably certain Mara would rather the team keep winning four games per season than deal with the questions sure to come with having Watson on his roster. I'd go further and suggest that if Flores would likely talk himself out of the HC job if he seriously suggested Watson would be brought in.
I’m still not convinced he’s guilty of anything  
ZoneXDOA : 1/17/2022 1:29 pm : link
Whole thing seems like it COULD be true but it also may be complete BS.
That said, the court of public opinion has already found him guilty and sentenced him to exile.
Ironic how Ben Roethlisberger found himself in a similar situation years ago and was just celebrated in his final playoff game with the Steelers yesterday. Nobody even mentions it anymore. And he DEFINITELY paid off his accusers to make his situation disappear.

Personally, as incredible as the kid is, I’d rather avoid the media shit show that will undoubtedly follow him.
Flores OK but Watson???  
bluewave : 1/17/2022 1:36 pm : link
No freaking way!!!
If this connection is true...Flores and Watson  
upnyg : 1/17/2022 1:37 pm : link
it makes more sense for the coach not give up his draft picks. He'd be better of taking the Houston job, convince Watson to stay and go from there.

Giving up 2-3 1s on a team that needs a bunch of talent would elongate the build time.
RE: RE: Watson  
Mad Mike : 1/17/2022 1:40 pm : link
In comment 15557750 Spirit of '86 said:
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This is not a criminal case. He is being sued. He will not go to jail. The issue is how much $ he will spend to make this go away legally.

This is incorrect, there is a criminal investigation, and a grand jury was convened. It was reported last month that any indictments, or lack thereof, would probably be announced by the end of this month. That said it's also been reported that the potential charges are misdemeanor indecent assault - he could theoretically be facing jail time for any such charges, but not necessarily, and certainly not the 20 years suggested earlier in this thread.
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It  
Toth029 : 1/17/2022 1:40 pm : link
Isn't the same situation because it's 2022. It's an entirely different landscape. Also you're comparing 2 allegations to 22 (or is it 24?).
Zero chance that any of this  
jvm52106 : 1/17/2022 1:45 pm : link
Happens. No way we go to Watson and his off the field drama.

That bring said- if the new GM and Coach thinks they can turn this around quickly our cap situation can be managed quite easily! More easily than some would admit.
Not buying what their selling  
Rick in Dallas : 1/17/2022 1:49 pm : link
I'm sure Watson would love to be in NYC.
Don't believe that  
Larry in Pencilvania : 1/17/2022 1:52 pm : link
Cause that's not what the article says. Giants have zero cap room and they announced they are carrying over $13,000 cap dollars into next year ... Lowest in the league in carryover
Watson is doable if he is cut  
5BowlsSoon : 1/17/2022 2:12 pm : link
Then you can probably sign him cheaper because his guarantees kick in.
No thank you.  
Matt M. : 1/17/2022 2:13 pm : link
Watson may be the most talented QB in the league. But, there is too much going on with him to even taker a chance. This is a team in turmoil. He would make things worse, not better.
Another baseless clickbait report...  
EricJ : 1/17/2022 2:20 pm : link
fake sports news
I don't see Watson in play  
Beer Man : 1/17/2022 2:24 pm : link
For one ownership hasn't selected a GM (who would have a say). and second the Giants aren't the kind of team to risk that much draft capital and cap space on a player with Watson's off-field issues.
Flores Personality  
Jeffrey : 1/17/2022 3:02 pm : link
apparently wore out his team and management. Why go there when there appear to be several competent GM and potential coaches out there from which to choose.
Watsons PR team  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 1/17/2022 3:27 pm : link
Supposedly wanting NY doesn’t make sense to me. Too much baggage.
 
christian : 1/17/2022 3:56 pm : link
After a trade, Watson’s deal is very reasonable and easily structured.
Christian  
cosmicj : 1/17/2022 4:02 pm : link
Watson is due $37mm and $35mm respectively in ‘22 and ‘23 from an acquiring team. If you’re saying that’s reasonable for a player of his quality, ok, but the Giants would need to restructure a lot of contracts to fit that in.
RE: No thank you.  
mattyblue : 1/17/2022 4:15 pm : link
In comment 15557870 Matt M. said:
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Watson may be the most talented QB in the league. But, there is too much going on with him to even taker a chance. This is a team in turmoil. He would make things worse, not better.


Agreed. What am I missing here? Isn’t it like 30 women he assaulted or something? Seems like an asshole. How long until he rapes someone? It doesn’t seem like much of a stretch. Last person I’d want to root for personally. Everyone gets so worked up about everything that happens nowadays but this guy not only getting another shot but being worth a big return continues to puzzle me. I assume I just either I read the story incorrectly or something changed somehow. I gotta be missing something.
RE: It  
ZoneXDOA : 1/17/2022 6:02 pm : link
In comment 15557823 Toth029 said:
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Isn't the same situation because it's 2022. It's an entirely different landscape. Also you're comparing 2 allegations to 22 (or is it 24?).

2 or 24, no means no, right? Imagine if Ben’s accusers came out now? There’d be accusers pouring out of the woodwork! So yeah, I’m def comparing the two.
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