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NGT- Raiders fire Mike Mayock as GM

jvm52106 : 1/17/2022 6:06 pm
Today. Not a surprise here but it is news regardless.
Does this affect  
shadow_spinner0 : 1/17/2022 6:07 pm : link
Derek Carr in any way?
Excellent.  
Big Blue '56 : 1/17/2022 6:08 pm : link
Now I can watch the draft again instead of following it exclusively online and here
Would Davis be bold enough...  
bw in dc : 1/17/2022 6:08 pm : link
to give a HC full control again? Harbaugh?
Risky hiring TV analysts to build NFL teams  
JonC : 1/17/2022 6:09 pm : link
I hope he's back as an analyst.
Is this really not a surprise?  
Anando : 1/17/2022 6:09 pm : link
I feel like I didn't hear much rumblings about this...
Great, I hope this means he'll be back  
Bill in UT : 1/17/2022 6:09 pm : link
on TV for the draft
Sounds like news of their interview requests broke before he knew  
TheWalrus : 1/17/2022 6:09 pm : link
Real classy if true. Probably means Bisaccia is done too.
Great draft analyst  
jeff57 : 1/17/2022 6:10 pm : link
Bad drafter.
RE: Great draft analyst  
TheWalrus : 1/17/2022 6:11 pm : link
In comment 15558216 jeff57 said:
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Bad drafter.


He weirdly did much better in late rounds than early rounds. Renfrow and Crosby being two great examples.

Hard to survive the Ruggs and Ferrell picks though.
He was decent drafting in  
shadow_spinner0 : 1/17/2022 6:11 pm : link
later rounds but not great in the first round
Harbaugh As Raiders GM & HC  
Trainmaster : 1/17/2022 6:12 pm : link
Book it!

I hope Bisaccia get consideration  
eli4life : 1/17/2022 6:13 pm : link
He did a hell of a job considering the circumstances
RE: Great draft analyst  
BigBlueShock : 1/17/2022 6:13 pm : link
In comment 15558216 jeff57 said:
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Bad drafter.

I’d guess that Gruden had much more say on personnel than Mayock. He wasn’t making $10M/per to not be in charge
Peter Prisco:  
shadow_spinner0 : 1/17/2022 6:14 pm : link
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Mike Mayock got talked into taking Clelin Ferrell by Gruden. I heard Mayock wanted Devin White

So was Gruden the problem?
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I don't know if this is the right move...  
bw in dc : 1/17/2022 6:15 pm : link
but the Raiders did make the playoffs this year in arguably the toughest division in football. And in a year that went sideways multiple times, he deserves some credit.

We were using  
Koffman : 1/17/2022 6:16 pm : link
Netscape Navigator to access this new thing called the World Wide Web at 28 kbps.
RE: Peter Prisco:  
bw in dc : 1/17/2022 6:16 pm : link
In comment 15558224 shadow_spinner0 said:
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Mike Mayock got talked into taking Clelin Ferrell by Gruden. I heard Mayock wanted Devin White


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This is true. Gruden had the gavel.
RE: We were using  
Koffman : 1/17/2022 6:16 pm : link
In comment 15558227 Koffman said:
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Netscape Navigator to access this new thing called the World Wide Web at 28 kbps.

Oops wrong thread.
Mayock knew the deal  
Sammo85 : 1/17/2022 6:20 pm : link
As soon as Gruden left he was on borrowed time. Gruden forced a lot of those bad picks to be honest and was the decider on all first rounders.

I’m not sure he’ll be back on TV for draft. NFLN has Jeremiah and Brooks doing lot of work and really promoted them last year or two and technically Mayocks buyout or severance of contract runs until June.
RE: Mayock knew the deal  
Big Blue '56 : 1/17/2022 6:23 pm : link
In comment 15558241 Sammo85 said:
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As soon as Gruden left he was on borrowed time. Gruden forced a lot of those bad picks to be honest and was the decider on all first rounders.

I’m not sure he’ll be back on TV for draft. NFLN has Jeremiah and Brooks doing lot of work and really promoted them last year or two and technically Mayocks buyout or severance of contract runs until June.


Then ESPN?
Another team...  
bw in dc : 1/17/2022 6:27 pm : link
in the GM/HC market means more competition for the Giants. Hopefully, Jints Central is working at an accelerated pace.
Just my 2 cents but I doubt he'll be on this year's draft  
j_rud : 1/17/2022 6:31 pm : link
That's a ton of work and I'd imagine he'll want some time to decompress.
That Ferrell pick was as bizarre as they come.  
Producer : 1/17/2022 6:32 pm : link
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Apparently they put in for requests to interview  
Larry in Pencilvania : 1/17/2022 6:32 pm : link
Before letting Mayock know he was out
RE: That Ferrell pick was as bizarre as they come.  
bw in dc : 1/17/2022 6:35 pm : link
In comment 15558263 Producer said:
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So was Leatherwood this year.
Davis  
JB_in_DC : 1/17/2022 6:35 pm : link
had said Raiders decision making say had been 51/49 Gruden to Mayock. Gun to my head, I blame Gruden for some of the real weird picks they had.
RE: Apparently they put in for requests to interview  
Sammo85 : 1/17/2022 6:36 pm : link
In comment 15558264 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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Before letting Mayock know he was out


Raiders are a real mess organizationally. They’ve lost tons of front office and back office business people.
When Gruden was fired Davis said  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/17/2022 6:36 pm : link
He had 51% control of the roster and Mayock had 49%. Nobody followed up asking how that worked but I’d gather Gruden was making a lot of the calls.

I always appreciated his work on NFL network so I hope he goes back.

The just said on ESPN Davis asked to interview someone from the Patriots in the front office and Mayo for HC.
RE: Davis  
bw in dc : 1/17/2022 6:38 pm : link
In comment 15558273 JB_in_DC said:
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had said Raiders decision making say had been 51/49 Gruden to Mayock. Gun to my head, I blame Gruden for some of the real weird picks they had.


I would say Mayock took over on Day 2 and 3. But Gruden was making the calls on Day 1 and trying to act like the smartest guy in the room.

I listened to Mayock for years on NFLN. Some of those first rounders were too bizarre not to be Gruden.
Just my 2 cents but I doubt he'll be on this year's draft  
j_rud : 1/17/2022 6:39 pm : link
That's a ton of work and I'd imagine he'll want some time to decompress.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/17/2022 6:39 pm : link
I wonder what LVR do with their HC. I thought the man did an admirable job considering all the distractions that team faced this past season.
How about we hire him as a scout  
gtt350 : 1/17/2022 6:40 pm : link
if he would even consider it
RE: RE: Mayock knew the deal  
Sammo85 : 1/17/2022 6:42 pm : link
In comment 15558251 Big Blue '56 said:
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As soon as Gruden left he was on borrowed time. Gruden forced a lot of those bad picks to be honest and was the decider on all first rounders.

I’m not sure he’ll be back on TV for draft. NFLN has Jeremiah and Brooks doing lot of work and really promoted them last year or two and technically Mayocks buyout or severance of contract runs until June.



Then ESPN?


I don’t think so. Not this year. But I could see him back with NFLN in a more multilateral role for the season and next year. I don’t see him going back to call college games.
He’s a decent draft guy  
mattlawson : 1/17/2022 7:01 pm : link
And they have talent. Not sure I get it beyond wanting to clean house
RE: RE: We were using  
pivo : 1/17/2022 7:09 pm : link
In comment 15558231 Koffman said:
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In comment 15558227 Koffman said:


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Netscape Navigator to access this new thing called the World Wide Web at 28 kbps.


Oops wrong thread.


Funny thing is - there are a bunch of you youngsters who weren't around for 28k...
RE: Harbaugh As Raiders GM & HC  
short lease : 1/18/2022 9:59 am : link
In comment 15558220 Trainmaster said:
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Book it!


I can see this .... Davis is a spineless idiot and Harbaugh is an alpha male who wants to be in charge of everything.


It will go south though in a few years - there will be a large explosion(implosion?).
RE: Just my 2 cents but I doubt he'll be on this year's draft  
Jay on the Island : 1/18/2022 10:06 am : link
In comment 15558280 j_rud said:
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That's a ton of work and I'd imagine he'll want some time to decompress.

I’m sure he has already done some scouting plus he probably has all the information from the team scouts. He might not work on a network right away but he could be a guest host on the NFL network on draft day.

I have always liked and respected Mayock as a draft analyst plus he isn’t afraid to admit his mistakes unlike guys like Mel Kiper.
RE: How about we hire him as a scout  
Jay on the Island : 1/18/2022 10:08 am : link
In comment 15558284 gtt350 said:
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if he would even consider it

There is no chance he would accept a job as a scout. Thats long hours, low pay, and a lot of travel. He would make millions more if he went back to the NFL network or ESPN.
RE: RE: How about we hire him as a scout  
Festina Lente : 1/18/2022 4:48 pm : link
In comment 15559011 Jay on the Island said:
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if he would even consider it


There is no chance he would accept a job as a scout. Thats long hours, low pay, and a lot of travel. He would make millions more if he went back to the NFL network or ESPN.


What about as a consultant? Something along the lines of "give us your reports for x position"and he's a check.
Somewhere, Mel Kiper is laughing maniacally.  
bwitz : 1/18/2022 10:56 pm : link
Stroking the helmet that is is hair.
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