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MNF: Cardinals At Rams Game Discussion (Final ManningCast)

Trainmaster : 1/17/2022 7:55 pm
Go Cardinals. Beat the Rams and their bandwagon fans!

Guests  
Trainmaster : 1/17/2022 8:01 pm : link
Larry Fitzgerald, Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson and Russell Wilson will be on the “Manning Cast” broadcast, joining the show throughout the night.
Russell Wilson Was Very Good  
Trainmaster : 1/17/2022 8:02 pm : link
The last time he was on in the 4th quarter.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/17/2022 8:02 pm : link
Rooting for Cards, but thinking LAR win.

I wonder how much it bothers  
fanoftheteam : 1/17/2022 8:12 pm : link
The mnf announcers having to
Promote the manningcast right before kickoff
Amazing about Watt and Akers coming back from  
GiantBlue : 1/17/2022 8:12 pm : link
Their respective injuries, surgeries and rehab programs.

Wishing for a great game!
Going with the Cards tonight  
montanagiant : 1/17/2022 8:18 pm : link
I have a 4 play parlay going tonight:
Kyle Murray 25+ yards rushing
Matthew Stafford 225 yards passing
Ertz gets a TD
Odell Beckham gets a TD.

$10 wins me $111 with FanDual
Other than 2002 Jennifer Love Hewitt hopping out of her 1985 DeLorean  
The_Boss : 1/17/2022 8:19 pm : link
And asking me if I wanted to bone her, nothing would make me happier than seeing OBJ and the Rams go down in flames tonight..
Just hoping for a game  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/17/2022 8:24 pm : link
that goes to the end. Too many non competitive games this weekend.
Stafford is holding on to the ball way too long  
montanagiant : 1/17/2022 8:26 pm : link
He just has not looked real comfortable lately
Justin Pugh and Markus Golden sightings -  
Del Shofner : 1/17/2022 8:27 pm : link
.
In response to that markus golden sack  
fanoftheteam : 1/17/2022 8:27 pm : link
All that talk about culture from our front office and I couldnt think of a more likeable presence then him and we let him go lol. Woulda been nice to
Have hung around.
Golden  
joeinpa : 1/17/2022 8:27 pm : link
Another example of a coach trying to make a guy fit his system instead of figuring a system that best utilizes a players skills.

Hate it when coaches are married to a system.
Thanks for the reminder about the Manning Cast!  
trueblueinpw : 1/17/2022 8:27 pm : link
Big ups to ESPN for broadcasting a playoff game with Eli and his brother.

Looking forward to hearing Larry Fitz on the game.
RE: Other than 2002 Jennifer Love Hewitt hopping out of her 1985 DeLorean  
montanagiant : 1/17/2022 8:28 pm : link
In comment 15558420 The_Boss said:
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And asking me if I wanted to bone her, nothing would make me happier than seeing OBJ and the Rams go down in flames tonight..

I don't know, the rumor has always been that she's a dead lay....But then of course she has not had The_Boss as of yet which could drastically change her!
RE: Other than 2002 Jennifer Love Hewitt hopping out of her 1985 DeLorean  
PatersonPlank : 1/17/2022 8:28 pm : link
In comment 15558420 The_Boss said:
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And asking me if I wanted to bone her, nothing would make me happier than seeing OBJ and the Rams go down in flames tonight..


Funny you should bring this up, this exactly happened to me last week
RE: Justin Pugh and Markus Golden sightings -  
markky : 1/17/2022 8:29 pm : link
In comment 15558430 Del Shofner said:
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how many Giants are starting for teams in the playoffs this year? At least 5 so far. you really have to hang on to your "average" players year to year to get good otherwise you are creating more holes than you can fill. DG created a LOT of holes, way more than can be filled next year. we have to be in the business of filling holes, not creating holes.
That deep ball was there  
montanagiant : 1/17/2022 8:31 pm : link
WR looked lost
Eli’s got his chain on!  
trueblueinpw : 1/17/2022 8:33 pm : link
Nice.

Love that he’s telling the receiver to lay out for that throw by KM.
I'm rooting for the Rams  
Milton : 1/17/2022 8:33 pm : link
I root for the pocket QB over the mobile one. I like seeing old school win.
OBJ play  
Debaser : 1/17/2022 8:37 pm : link
Bigger gain than any play giants receivers have had all year exception being Glennon to Rudolph in his first start as a giants
First time watching the Manning Cast  
Jalapeno : 1/17/2022 8:38 pm : link
I'm very excited considering I am stuck home for a few days after receiving my first positive COVID test a few hours ago.

Thankfully I just have mild flu like symptoms so I can still taste the beers and enjoy the game.
RE: RE: Other than 2002 Jennifer Love Hewitt hopping out of her 1985 DeLorean  
jnoble : 1/17/2022 8:39 pm : link
In comment 15558436 montanagiant said:
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And asking me if I wanted to bone her, nothing would make me happier than seeing OBJ and the Rams go down in flames tonight..


I don't know, the rumor has always been that she's a dead lay....But then of course she has not had The_Boss as of yet which could drastically change her!


A dead fish in the sack, eh? I'd like to test that theory. For science!
Akers looks amazing  
Producer : 1/17/2022 8:40 pm : link
For a guy who just tore his Achilles.
Nice catch OBJ  
trueblueinpw : 1/17/2022 8:41 pm : link
Is that his first playoff TD?
RE: OBJ play  
BillKo : 1/17/2022 8:41 pm : link
In comment 15558448 Debaser said:
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Bigger gain than any play giants receivers have had all year exception being Glennon to Rudolph in his first start as a giants


are you sure?
RE: First time watching the Manning Cast  
trueblueinpw : 1/17/2022 8:42 pm : link
In comment 15558450 Jalapeno said:
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I'm very excited considering I am stuck home for a few days after receiving my first positive COVID test a few hours ago.

Thankfully I just have mild flu like symptoms so I can still taste the beers and enjoy the game.


Get well soon! Think you’re gonna like the Mannings.
RE: Justin Pugh and Markus Golden sightings -  
BillKo : 1/17/2022 8:42 pm : link
In comment 15558430 Del Shofner said:
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Pugh has already missed two blocks.
Nice catch  
Route 9 : 1/17/2022 8:42 pm : link
OBJ. So glad we don't have him anymore and have sissy bitch boy Kenny Galloday or whatever his stupid name is.
RE: Nice catch OBJ  
DonQuixote : 1/17/2022 8:42 pm : link
In comment 15558456 trueblueinpw said:
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Is that his first playoff TD?


was his first foot out of bounds??

OBJ first playoff TD  
Canton : 1/17/2022 8:43 pm : link
“In his CELEBRATED career” the announcer says 😂
Am I the only one happy to see Odell  
Jalapeno : 1/17/2022 8:43 pm : link
get that TD?

I hold no ill will towards him and I am glad he still has flashes of that incredible talent.
Damn good thing we traded OBJ  
shadow_spinner0 : 1/17/2022 8:43 pm : link
for a bag of chips. He must be happy to be in LA than NY
ha, peyton  
WahooGiant : 1/17/2022 8:44 pm : link
I can't hear shit.
DID Peyton just say I can’t hear shit  
Debaser : 1/17/2022 8:44 pm : link
LOl
“Cant hear shit”  
jpkmets : 1/17/2022 8:45 pm : link
Nicely done, Peyton!
RE: Am I the only one happy to see Odell  
speedywheels : 1/17/2022 8:45 pm : link
In comment 15558466 Jalapeno said:
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get that TD?

I hold no ill will towards him and I am glad he still has flashes of that incredible talent.


I don’t hold any ill will either. Good for him.
RE: Damn good thing we traded OBJ  
Scuzzlebutt : 1/17/2022 8:46 pm : link
In comment 15558468 shadow_spinner0 said:
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for a bag of chips. He must be happy to be in LA than NY


A bag of chips? That trade was one of the only good moves DG made as GM. Good player, but not worth the money or the headache. Glad I don’t have to root for him anymore.
LMAO...I think it was Eli who just said  
montanagiant : 1/17/2022 8:47 pm : link
"Can't hear shit"
RE: RE: Damn good thing we traded OBJ  
shadow_spinner0 : 1/17/2022 8:47 pm : link
In comment 15558476 Scuzzlebutt said:
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for a bag of chips. He must be happy to be in LA than NY



A bag of chips? That trade was one of the only good moves DG made as GM. Good player, but not worth the money or the headache. Glad I don’t have to root for him anymore.

Well he's a headache for another team catching TD's in the playoffs while our offense is worst in the league
How was it a good trade  
Debaser : 1/17/2022 8:47 pm : link
Peppers gives jag new definition
RE: Nice catch  
trueblueinpw : 1/17/2022 8:49 pm : link
In comment 15558461 Route 9 said:
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OBJ. So glad we don't have him anymore and have sissy bitch boy Kenny Galloday or whatever his stupid name is.


I think Sissy Bitch Boy could work just fine!
RE: RE: RE: Damn good thing we traded OBJ  
Scuzzlebutt : 1/17/2022 8:50 pm : link
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for a bag of chips. He must be happy to be in LA than NY



A bag of chips? That trade was one of the only good moves DG made as GM. Good player, but not worth the money or the headache. Glad I don’t have to root for him anymore.


Well he's a headache for another team catching TD's in the playoffs while our offense is worst in the league


When we had him in the playoffs he went on a boat trip and proceeded to drop like 5 balls in the game. If he was on the Giants today they would still be at home watching as they were for most of the seasons he was with the Giants.
RE: How was it a good trade  
DonQuixote : 1/17/2022 8:50 pm : link
In comment 15558481 Debaser said:
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Peppers gives jag new definition


I think the Rams right now I would take a first round pick a third round pick and a quality player for Odell Beckham. You can pine for him all you want but he hasn't done that much over the past few years. I hope he blossoms in Los Angeles but it has nothing to do with the trade.
RE: How was it a good trade  
Scuzzlebutt : 1/17/2022 8:51 pm : link
In comment 15558481 Debaser said:
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Peppers gives jag new definition


Maybe you didn’t realize this but it wasn’t a straight up OBJ for Peppers trade.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Damn good thing we traded OBJ  
ajr2456 : 1/17/2022 8:51 pm : link
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for a bag of chips. He must be happy to be in LA than NY



A bag of chips? That trade was one of the only good moves DG made as GM. Good player, but not worth the money or the headache. Glad I don’t have to root for him anymore.


Well he's a headache for another team catching TD's in the playoffs while our offense is worst in the league



When we had him in the playoffs he went on a boat trip and proceeded to drop like 5 balls in the game. If he was on the Giants today they would still be at home watching as they were for most of the seasons he was with the Giants.


And it wouldn’t be Odell’s fault like all the bad years they had with him.
Akers tore his achiles and looks as good as ever  
shadow_spinner0 : 1/17/2022 8:52 pm : link
Barkley comes back from a torn CL and looks like he will be out of the league in a few years. And before you say "the OL", Barkley didn't have a good OL in 18 and 19 and dominated.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Damn good thing we traded OBJ  
Scuzzlebutt : 1/17/2022 8:54 pm : link
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for a bag of chips. He must be happy to be in LA than NY



A bag of chips? That trade was one of the only good moves DG made as GM. Good player, but not worth the money or the headache. Glad I don’t have to root for him anymore.


Well he's a headache for another team catching TD's in the playoffs while our offense is worst in the league



When we had him in the playoffs he went on a boat trip and proceeded to drop like 5 balls in the game. If he was on the Giants today they would still be at home watching as they were for most of the seasons he was with the Giants.



And it wouldn’t be Odell’s fault like all the bad years they had with him.


Ok fine… not his fault, but he wouldn’t help either. Either way he costs a lot of money and doesn’t help us.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Damn good thing we traded OBJ  
Scuzzlebutt : 1/17/2022 8:55 pm : link
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for a bag of chips. He must be happy to be in LA than NY



A bag of chips? That trade was one of the only good moves DG made as GM. Good player, but not worth the money or the headache. Glad I don’t have to root for him anymore.


Well he's a headache for another team catching TD's in the playoffs while our offense is worst in the league



When we had him in the playoffs he went on a boat trip and proceeded to drop like 5 balls in the game. If he was on the Giants today they would still be at home watching as they were for most of the seasons he was with the Giants.



And it wouldn’t be Odell’s fault like all the bad years they had with him.



Ok fine… not his fault, but he wouldn’t help either. Either way he costs a lot of money and doesn’t help us.


Oh yeah - and he’s a dick.
Why are the Cards  
shadow_spinner0 : 1/17/2022 8:55 pm : link
running a 6-2 defense on the Rams?
RE: RE: OBJ play  
Debaser : 1/17/2022 8:56 pm : link
In comment 15558457 BillKo said:
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Bigger gain than any play giants receivers have had all year exception being Glennon to Rudolph in his first start as a giants



are you sure?


No but I just have 0 recollection of Danny “dimes” ever throwing a 20 yard pass over the middle ; do you?
RE: Akers tore his achiles and looks as good as ever  
PatersonPlank : 1/17/2022 8:56 pm : link
In comment 15558491 shadow_spinner0 said:
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Barkley comes back from a torn CL and looks like he will be out of the league in a few years. And before you say "the OL", Barkley didn't have a good OL in 18 and 19 and dominated.
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Barkley tore his ACL, MCL, and Miniscus. You can easily search and find doctors estimating it was a 2 season recovery
That John Ross TD  
shadow_spinner0 : 1/17/2022 8:57 pm : link
against the Saints
The Rock!  
trueblueinpw : 1/17/2022 8:59 pm : link
Can you smell what The Rock is cooking?
Sean route  
Debaser : 1/17/2022 8:59 pm : link
His only throw
Kinda pathetic  
Debaser : 1/17/2022 9:02 pm : link
WE have to go back to week four against the saints to trump a pass that Glennon makes in his first start on team that looked like they preferred to be at the dentist than play by that point
Watching Odell playing this  
cokeduplt : 1/17/2022 9:04 pm : link
Well I’m the playoffs hurts
Can we please get back to discussing this game  
montanagiant : 1/17/2022 9:06 pm : link
This thread was fun for about the first 10 mins then a few of you blow in here with your agenda-driven bullshit.

Let's actually discuss what the thread was made for please

Peyton taking pot shots at Judge and the QB sneaks  
TheWalrus : 1/17/2022 9:07 pm : link
Eli chuckles and then does a "no comment" before he says something he shouldn't.
do they always have those overhead...  
BillKo : 1/17/2022 9:10 pm : link
...views at the goal line?
Murray  
uconn18 : 1/17/2022 9:12 pm : link
Is playing like a deer in the headlights
Murray looks like crap  
montanagiant : 1/17/2022 9:13 pm : link
Hope he settles down
RE: Murray looks like crap  
BamaBlue : 1/17/2022 9:15 pm : link
In comment 15558520 montanagiant said:
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Hope he settles down


The Rams are definitely in his head. He's playing scared and is completely overmatched.
Aerial images of SoFi stadium  
DonQuixote : 1/17/2022 9:18 pm : link
Make a MetLife look like a typewriter.
Eli’s like “look back”…  
trueblueinpw : 1/17/2022 9:19 pm : link
Love it.
Cardinals OL  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/17/2022 9:20 pm : link
Is overmatched. They can’t run. Putting all on Murray is not a winning formula.
RE: Peyton taking pot shots at Judge and the QB sneaks  
cjac : 1/17/2022 9:21 pm : link
In comment 15558514 TheWalrus said:
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Eli chuckles and then does a "no comment" before he says something he shouldn't.


Well deserved

And as always Eli displays class while hinting at how much he hated it
If Murray and the Cards fall heavily  
jvm52106 : 1/17/2022 9:21 pm : link
Here could Klingsbury be in trouble? I mean the Cards faltered later in the season and limped in. I think the cards could looking to Leftwitch here .
This is a quibble but I hate the green inside  
oghwga : 1/17/2022 9:21 pm : link
The end zone. That little one foot strip of green before the color change is very confusing to me.
RE: RE: Damn good thing we traded OBJ  
Mdgiantsfan : 1/17/2022 9:22 pm : link
In comment 15558476 Scuzzlebutt said:
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for a bag of chips. He must be happy to be in LA than NY



A bag of chips? That trade was one of the only good moves DG made as GM. Good player, but not worth the money or the headache. Glad I don’t have to root for him anymore.


I’m sorry on paper that should’ve been a slam dunk win for Big Blue given what we recvd in return, but it wasn’t. Ziegler - gone now but he was no where close to who he was in Cleveland and now in Bmore, Peppers - meh, Dexter - decent, Xman - healthy scratches says it all, and we are still searching for a #1 WR.
Definitely complete  
UConn4523 : 1/17/2022 9:24 pm : link
2 feet down and a hop with both feet
Not even close  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/17/2022 9:24 pm : link
Incomplete
RE: Not even close  
UConn4523 : 1/17/2022 9:26 pm : link
In comment 15558540 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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Incomplete


The only way it isn’t close (and it’s definitely close) is if they think he bobbled it before hopping forward.
The cards didnt  
SJGiant : 1/17/2022 9:27 pm : link
Challenge the original play call.
I say complete  
Scuzzlebutt : 1/17/2022 9:27 pm : link
Two steps and he braced for contact
I would call that a completion  
montanagiant : 1/17/2022 9:27 pm : link
Caught, got his feet down, and made a move to protect against the hit.
Ambiguity is written into the rules  
giantBCP : 1/17/2022 9:27 pm : link
So that they can call it however they want to call it.
If the Rams lose this challenge, they have no  
SJGiant : 1/17/2022 9:28 pm : link
Challenges remaining for the game
RE: RE: Am I the only one happy to see Odell  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/17/2022 9:28 pm : link
In comment 15558475 speedywheels said:
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get that TD?

I hold no ill will towards him and I am glad he still has flashes of that incredible talent.



I don’t hold any ill will either. Good for him.


Not alone in that.
I just don’t get any of these reversals  
UConn4523 : 1/17/2022 9:29 pm : link
in the opening round.
Took a while.  
trueblueinpw : 1/17/2022 9:29 pm : link
But I think that’s the right call.
RE: RE: RE: Am I the only one happy to see Odell  
moze1021 : 1/17/2022 9:29 pm : link
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get that TD?

I hold no ill will towards him and I am glad he still has flashes of that incredible talent.



I don’t hold any ill will either. Good for him.



Not alone in that.


Might still be my favorite player in the league... always root for him..
Yikes Kyler  
Sean : 1/17/2022 9:31 pm : link
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Jesus, what a disaster  
Anakim : 1/17/2022 9:31 pm : link
The Cardinals should fire Kingsbury
And the Steelers should fire Tomlin
And the Patriots should fire Belichick


THIS SHOULD NOT STAND!
Game over  
UConn4523 : 1/17/2022 9:31 pm : link
worst opening round of the playoffs I’ve ever seen I think. These games have just been terrible.
LIking the rock  
Debaser : 1/17/2022 9:31 pm : link
And they’re getting better at paying attention to the game and doing play by play instead of ignoring what’s happening in the game
Holy shit  
cjac : 1/17/2022 9:31 pm : link
Kyler Murray

That was horrible
LMAO...Oh my God  
montanagiant : 1/17/2022 9:31 pm : link
Shit, you can't do that move at this level. Murray looks absolutely lost out there at this point.
Joe Judge is like  
Boatie Warrant : 1/17/2022 9:32 pm : link
SEE!!!
RE: Yikes Kyler  
rnargi : 1/17/2022 9:32 pm : link
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Lol. Imagine had Jones done that.
I’m glad I don’t bet games  
djm : 1/17/2022 9:32 pm : link
..
LOL....  
BillKo : 1/17/2022 9:32 pm : link
...wow what a moronic play.
Um...  
GruningsOnTheHill : 1/17/2022 9:33 pm : link
after watching some of these playoff games, I don't feel so bad about the Giants.

That was ridic.
Cardinals  
AcidTest : 1/17/2022 9:33 pm : link
playing like the Giants on offense. PU.
Kyler Murray is  
Ron Johnson : 1/17/2022 9:34 pm : link
A rock solid top 10 QB
Did not see  
section125 : 1/17/2022 9:35 pm : link
this happening.
HA! that was a dropped pass interception reception  
montanagiant : 1/17/2022 9:36 pm : link
.
Murray is out of it right now  
DonQuixote : 1/17/2022 9:37 pm : link
I'm not saying anything about him overall but he is clearly rattled.
RE: Kyler Murray is  
BillKo : 1/17/2022 9:37 pm : link
In comment 15558569 Ron Johnson said:
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A rock solid top 10 QB


He looks absolutely lost tonight.
So many blowouts  
Anakim : 1/17/2022 9:37 pm : link
Can't be good for the NFL
Love Eli!  
trueblueinpw : 1/17/2022 9:37 pm : link
He’s so funny, blaming The Rocks pep talk, calling out his brothers hair looking like The Rock. And then saying what he misses from the game is the competition every day and running the two minute drill to win the game. The Giant ever!
This is an absolute shitshow  
montanagiant : 1/17/2022 9:38 pm : link
By the Cards. A debacle that will haunt them
Cards legit looking like the Giants offense  
shadow_spinner0 : 1/17/2022 9:38 pm : link
can't move the ball, no one can catch, QB makes dumb decisions, receivers aren't prepared, guys running into each other
RE: This is an absolute shitshow  
GruningsOnTheHill : 1/17/2022 9:39 pm : link
In comment 15558579 montanagiant said:
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By the Cards. A debacle that will haunt them

+1
Where was this Beckham  
GNewGiants : 1/17/2022 9:39 pm : link
In our playoff game?

Oh idiot was thinking about retirement.
RE: Where was this Beckham  
ajr2456 : 1/17/2022 9:40 pm : link
In comment 15558582 GNewGiants said:
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In our playoff game?

Oh idiot was thinking about retirement.


What do some of you do when a girl breaks up with you jeeze.
RE: RE: Where was this Beckham  
GNewGiants : 1/17/2022 9:41 pm : link
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In our playoff game?

Oh idiot was thinking about retirement.



What do some of you do when a girl breaks up with you jeeze.


Guess you still stalk her?
Do you bench Murray at this point?  
montanagiant : 1/17/2022 9:42 pm : link
I know you don't want to and screw up his confidence. It also might be too late at this point if the Rams score a TD again. But he is killing this team. He is lacking confidence, he's tentative, looks like a scared kitten out there right now.

Best thing Cards could do is run some RPO's to get him some confidence back
Given the collapse of last season  
Essex : 1/17/2022 9:42 pm : link
and basically this season by the Cards, I think Kingsbury job is in danger
RE: Do you bench Murray at this point?  
GNewGiants : 1/17/2022 9:43 pm : link
In comment 15558586 montanagiant said:
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I know you don't want to and screw up his confidence. It also might be too late at this point if the Rams score a TD again. But he is killing this team. He is lacking confidence, he's tentative, looks like a scared kitten out there right now.

Best thing Cards could do is run some RPO's to get him some confidence back


Nah. Gotta take his lumps and play and experience this. Remember Eli was his awful his first start too.
holy crap...  
BillKo : 1/17/2022 9:43 pm : link
he's got zero touch right now, he's rattled.
RE: Joe Judge is like  
markky : 1/17/2022 9:44 pm : link
In comment 15558560 Boatie Warrant said:
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SEE!!!


LOL!
The Rock has the skull of a T-Rex behind him  
Jalapeno : 1/17/2022 9:45 pm : link
That is fucking amazing.
RE: Given the collapse of last season  
Anakim : 1/17/2022 9:45 pm : link
In comment 15558587 Essex said:
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and basically this season by the Cards, I think Kingsbury job is in danger


I don't think Kingsbury is some exceptional coach, but if he did get fired, he would most likely be the best coach on the market.
Honestly he's lucky that pass to Ertz wasn't Intercepted  
montanagiant : 1/17/2022 9:45 pm : link
He threw into double coverage into the middle of the field that has been the cause of all his troubles
PUt colt in  
Debaser : 1/17/2022 9:45 pm : link
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If I were at Kingsbury  
DonQuixote : 1/17/2022 9:47 pm : link
I would take Murray out for 2-3 plays. Watch, calm down.
RE: Um...  
FStubbs : 1/17/2022 9:51 pm : link
In comment 15558566 GruningsOnTheHill said:
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after watching some of these playoff games, I don't feel so bad about the Giants.

That was ridic.


If the Giants played any of these teams they'd run circles around them.

Remember the Giants couldn't even get positive passing yards in a game.
Playoffs are a totally  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/17/2022 9:53 pm : link
Different best. Remember Eli’s first one. Hope he can settle down. Never agree with all the great talk with some of these younger QB’s until they show it in the playoffs. That said, Murray is far from the only issue thus far.
Bad half for sure  
trueblueinpw : 1/17/2022 9:54 pm : link
Still, the Cards could claw their way back into this game.
Every Young QB  
shadow_spinner0 : 1/17/2022 9:55 pm : link
shit the bead except for Burrow in these playoffs. He's a different breed
Eli  
Debaser : 1/17/2022 9:57 pm : link
Eli played on a team that was barely above 500 when he played in a playoff game as what seed ? a wild card at like 9-7?

That is far different than a team that makes pea shooter colt McCoy look like an all star
Okay, you're the coach of the Cards  
montanagiant : 1/17/2022 9:58 pm : link
What do you do to start the 2nd half?

Stay away from inside screens to start.
Run some keepers and RPO's because you have to get some kind of a running game going and hopefully they work and give Murray some confidence.
RE: Eli  
an_idol_mind : 1/17/2022 9:58 pm : link
In comment 15558607 Debaser said:
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Eli played on a team that was barely above 500 when he played in a playoff game as what seed ? a wild card at like 9-7?

That is far different than a team that makes pea shooter colt McCoy look like an all star


Giants went 11-5 during Eli's first playoff season. Had Jay Feeley made one field goal out of three, they would have had a bye that year.
RE: Eli  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/17/2022 10:00 pm : link
In comment 15558607 Debaser said:
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Eli played on a team that was barely above 500 when he played in a playoff game as what seed ? a wild card at like 9-7?

That is far different than a team that makes pea shooter colt McCoy look like an all star


Dude if you want to come in strong at least be correct. Thanks
RE: Eli  
shadow_spinner0 : 1/17/2022 10:02 pm : link
In comment 15558607 Debaser said:
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Eli played on a team that was barely above 500 when he played in a playoff game as what seed ? a wild card at like 9-7?

That is far different than a team that makes pea shooter colt McCoy look like an all star

Giants went 11-5, won the division and were playing at home. Get proceeded to get shut out at home.
Mc Coy  
GFiLA : 1/17/2022 10:02 pm : link
Time for a QB change. Can’t get any worse
RE: RE: Eli  
shadow_spinner0 : 1/17/2022 10:03 pm : link
In comment 15558610 an_idol_mind said:
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In comment 15558607 Debaser said:


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Eli played on a team that was barely above 500 when he played in a playoff game as what seed ? a wild card at like 9-7?

That is far different than a team that makes pea shooter colt McCoy look like an all star



Giants went 11-5 during Eli's first playoff season. Had Jay Feeley made one field goal out of three, they would have had a bye that year.

Yup, and who knows what happens. I doubt they beat Seattle if they move on but you never know.
Moon knight looks like  
CromartiesKid21 : 1/17/2022 10:04 pm : link
a KKK ninja
Easily the worst  
mittenedman : 1/17/2022 10:08 pm : link
game I've ever seen Kyler Murray play.
This Cards slide  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/17/2022 10:08 pm : link
Has been greatly because of Hopkins absence.
The overreactions on this thread are hilarious  
Producer : 1/17/2022 10:10 pm : link
Haunting debacle?

Fire Kingsbury?

You guys have watched the NFL playoffs before, right?
Odell  
Paulie Walnuts : 1/17/2022 10:11 pm : link
Baby
RE: RE: Eli  
Debaser : 1/17/2022 10:15 pm : link
In comment 15558614 shadow_spinner0 said:
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In comment 15558607 Debaser said:


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Eli played on a team that was barely above 500 when he played in a playoff game as what seed ? a wild card at like 9-7?

That is far different than a team that makes pea shooter colt McCoy look like an all star


Giants went 11-5, won the division and were playing at home. Get proceeded to get shut out at home.


Whatever he was almost a rookie then. Starting in week 11 the year before. Kyler is in his third full season where he played 16 games his previous two seasons
Matt Stafford on his way to his first playoff win  
dpinzow : 1/17/2022 10:16 pm : link
...
Is Cooper Kupp that good?  
Thunderstruck27 : 1/17/2022 10:16 pm : link
I can't imagine anyone on the Giants catching a ball at their knees.
Kyler will learn from this  
Producer : 1/17/2022 10:16 pm : link
I think he'll be fine.

If the Cardinals don't want him, we'll take him.
I’m also getting sick  
Debaser : 1/17/2022 10:17 pm : link
Of all the shitting on Eli posts every time some one has some counter point to make “but Eli 16 years ago...”
RE: RE: Eli  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/17/2022 10:18 pm : link
In comment 15558614 shadow_spinner0 said:
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Eli played on a team that was barely above 500 when he played in a playoff game as what seed ? a wild card at like 9-7?

That is far different than a team that makes pea shooter colt McCoy look like an all star


Giants went 11-5, won the division and were playing at home. Get proceeded to get shut out at home.


That Giants team was a wreck of injuries. The record is one thing, you have to look at the lineup that played in that game.
Kyler Murray  
eric2425ny : 1/17/2022 10:18 pm : link
looking Glennon-esque tonight! 28 yards in 2.5 quarters lol.
RE: RE: Eli  
UConn4523 : 1/17/2022 10:18 pm : link
In comment 15558614 shadow_spinner0 said:
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Eli played on a team that was barely above 500 when he played in a playoff game as what seed ? a wild card at like 9-7?

That is far different than a team that makes pea shooter colt McCoy look like an all star


Giants went 11-5, won the division and were playing at home. Get proceeded to get shut out at home.


Lol. Can this troll get anything right?
RE: Kyler will learn from this  
Debaser : 1/17/2022 10:19 pm : link
In comment 15558639 Producer said:
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I think he'll be fine.

If the Cardinals don't want him, we'll take him.


Fuck that noise.
RE: RE: RE: Eli  
eric2425ny : 1/17/2022 10:20 pm : link
In comment 15558644 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 15558607 Debaser said:


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Eli played on a team that was barely above 500 when he played in a playoff game as what seed ? a wild card at like 9-7?

That is far different than a team that makes pea shooter colt McCoy look like an all star


Giants went 11-5, won the division and were playing at home. Get proceeded to get shut out at home.



Lol. Can this troll get anything right?


I am trying to figure out where the bridge is this troll lives under because he writes in a very peculiar manner.
RE: The overreactions on this thread are hilarious  
jvm52106 : 1/17/2022 10:20 pm : link
In comment 15558629 Producer said:
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Haunting debacle?

Fire Kingsbury?

You guys have watched the NFL playoffs before, right?


Producer- do you follow football,? Kingsbury has been rumored to be in a bit of trouble and Murray regressing may be the nail in the coffin. Not saying it will, saying it could happen.
RE: Every Young QB  
eli4life : 1/17/2022 10:21 pm : link
In comment 15558605 shadow_spinner0 said:
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shit the bead except for Burrow in these playoffs. He's a different breed


Umm josh Allen?
RE: This Cards slide  
Johnny5 : 1/17/2022 10:21 pm : link
In comment 15558627 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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Has been greatly because of Hopkins absence.

Yeah for sure. Man does Kyler look a mess though. Surprising.
I thought this was going to be a great game  
eric2425ny : 1/17/2022 10:23 pm : link
really disappointing. For all of the people that say the NFL is rigged, etc. (not talking about BBI) this proves it is not. They showcased this game out of all of the wild card matchups.
Shows you the difference between regular season and playoffs  
dpinzow : 1/17/2022 10:24 pm : link
and Cardinals not having Hopkins

Cardinals thrashed the Rams 37-20 in LA earlier in the season. Now with the playoff intensity ratched up they're getting thrashed
Peyton  
cjac : 1/17/2022 10:24 pm : link
Takes a shot at Dallas

Finally
RE: RE: Every Young QB  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/17/2022 10:24 pm : link
In comment 15558650 eli4life said:
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shit the bead except for Burrow in these playoffs. He's a different breed



Umm josh Allen?


This is Allen's 5th playoff game. I don't think he's being counted as a young guy.

This is Kyler's first.

Cards looking like the Giants  
shadow_spinner0 : 1/17/2022 10:25 pm : link
They completely quit, just running....okay nice pass but still wasting too much time
RE: Shows you the difference between regular season and playoffs  
eric2425ny : 1/17/2022 10:25 pm : link
In comment 15558655 dpinzow said:
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and Cardinals not having Hopkins

Cardinals thrashed the Rams 37-20 in LA earlier in the season. Now with the playoff intensity ratched up they're getting thrashed


It’s kind of like the NBA now. Defenses tend to play harder in the playoffs. I think the Hopkins absence is being a little overblown. He wasn’t healthy all year and is not in his prime anymore at this stage.
RE: RE: The overreactions on this thread are hilarious  
Producer : 1/17/2022 10:26 pm : link
In comment 15558648 jvm52106 said:
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In comment 15558629 Producer said:


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Haunting debacle?

Fire Kingsbury?

You guys have watched the NFL playoffs before, right?



Producer- do you follow football,? Kingsbury has been rumored to be in a bit of trouble and Murray regressing may be the nail in the coffin. Not saying it will, saying it could happen.


Kingsbury in trouble? Rumored by who? Loudmouths on BBI? I'll take Kingsbury and Kyler. They're a young teem building something. Of course there will be ups and downs.

We have people here defending Daniel Jones but can't see Kyler is an excellent talent. I think you're the one that doesn't follow football.
RE: RE: Shows you the difference between regular season and playoffs  
dpinzow : 1/17/2022 10:27 pm : link
In comment 15558660 eric2425ny said:
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In comment 15558655 dpinzow said:


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and Cardinals not having Hopkins

Cardinals thrashed the Rams 37-20 in LA earlier in the season. Now with the playoff intensity ratched up they're getting thrashed



It’s kind of like the NBA now. Defenses tend to play harder in the playoffs. I think the Hopkins absence is being a little overblown. He wasn’t healthy all year and is not in his prime anymore at this stage.


Playoff intensity and speed of the game is always faster than the regular season. This was true when Parcells was coaching LT in the 80s
This playoff format sucks  
Chris684 : 1/17/2022 10:27 pm : link
and I’m seeing it get killed a lot on social media tonight. You don’t need 7 teams and you don’t need Monday Night Football in the playoffs.

You especially don’t need the ESPN presentation of Monday Night Football which has mostly been a garbage production masquerading as a big deal for years now since Sunday Night Football became more important.

It hasn’t helped that these games have mostly been duds but now that it’s played out, I think the 17th game and the expanded playoffs are both failures.

Seeing this game on TV tonight didn’t scream big game at all. Felt exactly like a meaningless (to those on the East coast) mid season game that is easily a take it or leave it scenario.
Put McCoy in  
Debaser : 1/17/2022 10:28 pm : link
What the heck is this Glennon playing with a screw up wrist
Aaron Donald choking someone while wearing a Stop Hate helmet  
j_rud : 1/17/2022 10:29 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: The overreactions on this thread are hilarious  
jvm52106 : 1/17/2022 10:30 pm : link
In comment 15558662 Producer said:
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In comment 15558648 jvm52106 said:


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In comment 15558629 Producer said:


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Haunting debacle?

Fire Kingsbury?

You guys have watched the NFL playoffs before, right?



Producer- do you follow football,? Kingsbury has been rumored to be in a bit of trouble and Murray regressing may be the nail in the coffin. Not saying it will, saying it could happen.



Kingsbury in trouble? Rumored by who? Loudmouths on BBI? I'll take Kingsbury and Kyler. They're a young teem building something. Of course there will be ups and downs.

We have people here defending Daniel Jones but can't see Kyler is an excellent talent. I think you're the one that doesn't follow football.


Read down some..
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RE: This playoff format sucks  
eric2425ny : 1/17/2022 10:30 pm : link
In comment 15558665 Chris684 said:
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and I’m seeing it get killed a lot on social media tonight. You don’t need 7 teams and you don’t need Monday Night Football in the playoffs.

You especially don’t need the ESPN presentation of Monday Night Football which has mostly been a garbage production masquerading as a big deal for years now since Sunday Night Football became more important.

It hasn’t helped that these games have mostly been duds but now that it’s played out, I think the 17th game and the expanded playoffs are both failures.

Seeing this game on TV tonight didn’t scream big game at all. Felt exactly like a meaningless (to those on the East coast) mid season game that is easily a take it or leave it scenario.


All about money with Goodell. As many prime time games as possible. Players hate Thursday night football because of the short rest. Doesn’t care, keeps it going. Ruined the draft. Used to be fun getting buddies together to watch it all day on a Saturday. Now it spans two prime time evenings plus most of a Saturday.
John Madden  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/17/2022 10:31 pm : link
Always talked about the intensity and speed come playoff time. Like most things he was right.
If ever there was a team that needs a turnover  
montanagiant : 1/17/2022 10:33 pm : link
it's the Cards right now on this drive
RE: Aaron Donald choking someone while wearing a Stop Hate helmet  
Jalapeno : 1/17/2022 10:35 pm : link
In comment 15558669 j_rud said:
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Hahahahahaha
Budda Baker down after making that tackle  
dpinzow : 1/17/2022 10:36 pm : link
looks serious
RE: Budda Baker down after making that tackle  
j_rud : 1/17/2022 10:38 pm : link
In comment 15558681 dpinzow said:
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looks serious


He went stiff like he caught one on the jaw
wow, what a disappointing weekend of football  
islander1 : 1/17/2022 10:43 pm : link
glad I watched all of the SF/Dallas game, at least.
The Cardinals  
Ron Johnson : 1/17/2022 10:45 pm : link
Are good enough to have been in position for the # 1 seed 5 weeks ago. Murray has them looking like they haven’t practiced.

He’s not very good.
RE: The Cardinals  
Producer : 1/17/2022 10:49 pm : link
In comment 15558688 Ron Johnson said:
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Are good enough to have been in position for the # 1 seed 5 weeks ago. Murray has them looking like they haven’t practiced.

He’s not very good.


Kyler is 2nd in completion pct, 6th in QBR, 4th in Y/A..

But he had a bad half of football in his first playoff game and therfore he's not very good. But we need 5 years to evaluate Daniel Jones. [/s]
RE: RE: This playoff format sucks  
jnoble : 1/17/2022 10:49 pm : link
In comment 15558673 eric2425ny said:
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In comment 15558665 Chris684 said:


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and I’m seeing it get killed a lot on social media tonight. You don’t need 7 teams and you don’t need Monday Night Football in the playoffs.

You especially don’t need the ESPN presentation of Monday Night Football which has mostly been a garbage production masquerading as a big deal for years now since Sunday Night Football became more important.

It hasn’t helped that these games have mostly been duds but now that it’s played out, I think the 17th game and the expanded playoffs are both failures.

Seeing this game on TV tonight didn’t scream big game at all. Felt exactly like a meaningless (to those on the East coast) mid season game that is easily a take it or leave it scenario.



All about money with Goodell. As many prime time games as possible. Players hate Thursday night football because of the short rest. Doesn’t care, keeps it going. Ruined the draft. Used to be fun getting buddies together to watch it all day on a Saturday. Now it spans two prime time evenings plus most of a Saturday.

I agree with all of that except for the new draft format. I like round 1 and 2 on their own days
You think Barry Sanders and Calvin Johnson  
j_rud : 1/17/2022 10:49 pm : link
are salty watching Stafford? Like the old criminals jealous of the young buck who makes it out of the neighborhood before he wastes his life?
RE: RE: The Cardinals  
Ron Johnson : 1/17/2022 10:52 pm : link
In comment 15558692 Producer said:
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In comment 15558688 Ron Johnson said:


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Are good enough to have been in position for the # 1 seed 5 weeks ago. Murray has them looking like they haven’t practiced.

He’s not very good.



Kyler is 2nd in completion pct, 6th in QBR, 4th in Y/A..

But he had a bad half of football in his first playoff game and therfore he's not very good. But we need 5 years to evaluate Daniel Jones. [/s]


Ok Ok ‘not very good’ was too kind.

He sucks.
Murray is now locking into  
montanagiant : 1/17/2022 10:54 pm : link
Targets
RE: RE: RE: The Cardinals  
eric2425ny : 1/17/2022 10:54 pm : link
In comment 15558696 Ron Johnson said:
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In comment 15558692 Producer said:


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In comment 15558688 Ron Johnson said:


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Are good enough to have been in position for the # 1 seed 5 weeks ago. Murray has them looking like they haven’t practiced.

He’s not very good.



Kyler is 2nd in completion pct, 6th in QBR, 4th in Y/A..

But he had a bad half of football in his first playoff game and therfore he's not very good. But we need 5 years to evaluate Daniel Jones. [/s]



Ok Ok ‘not very good’ was too kind.

He sucks.


Lol, Producer gets very defensive about other teams QB’s.

I’m not a Murray fan. Too short, offensive scheme is not conducive to winning a championship.
Murray and Cards  
JB_in_DC : 1/17/2022 10:56 pm : link
haven't been the same since his injury.

Lmao at j_rud's observation on the Donald Stop Hate chokeout. That image, taking place in the midst of a complete laugher of an expanded playoff monday effing night game is a fitting depiction of the NFL right now.

Excited for Divisionals. Just 10 more minutes and all the chaff will be out of here.
I have a throwaway $20 bet  
j_rud : 1/17/2022 11:00 pm : link
For Beckham 1st TD and Rams by 13+ that would pay out $400 so I'm pretty engrossed...
I'm happy for Stafford. He was patient for a long time in Detroit  
Ira : 1/17/2022 11:02 pm : link
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We are in desperate need of an explosive  
shadow_spinner0 : 1/17/2022 11:05 pm : link
slot receiver
Kupp with more YAC than any Giants receiver has yardage  
j_rud : 1/17/2022 11:08 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: RE: The Cardinals  
Producer : 1/17/2022 11:10 pm : link
In comment 15558700 eric2425ny said:
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In comment 15558692 Producer said:


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In comment 15558688 Ron Johnson said:


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Are good enough to have been in position for the # 1 seed 5 weeks ago. Murray has them looking like they haven’t practiced.

He’s not very good.



Kyler is 2nd in completion pct, 6th in QBR, 4th in Y/A..

But he had a bad half of football in his first playoff game and therfore he's not very good. But we need 5 years to evaluate Daniel Jones. [/s]



Ok Ok ‘not very good’ was too kind.

He sucks.



Lol, Producer gets very defensive about other teams QB’s.

I’m not a Murray fan. Too short, offensive scheme is not conducive to winning a championship.


No, Producer just wants to apply the same standard to all players. If Daniel Jones had reached those statistical milestones, for instance, instead of 23rd, 26th, and 22nd respectively, folks here would be fitting him for a gold jacket.

And in terms of the offensive scheme not winning, the Cards won 11 games. Do you prefer the *hard nosed* running and defense style the Giants played? Which was good for 4 wins?
RE: We are in desperate need of an explosive  
j_rud : 1/17/2022 11:12 pm : link
In comment 15558709 shadow_spinner0 said:
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slot receiver

And a OT and 2 guards and a couple TEs and a DT and an EDGE rusher and an ILB and a safety
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The Cardinals  
eric2425ny : 1/17/2022 11:13 pm : link
In comment 15558713 Producer said:
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In comment 15558692 Producer said:


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In comment 15558688 Ron Johnson said:


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Are good enough to have been in position for the # 1 seed 5 weeks ago. Murray has them looking like they haven’t practiced.

He’s not very good.



Kyler is 2nd in completion pct, 6th in QBR, 4th in Y/A..

But he had a bad half of football in his first playoff game and therfore he's not very good. But we need 5 years to evaluate Daniel Jones. [/s]



Ok Ok ‘not very good’ was too kind.

He sucks.



Lol, Producer gets very defensive about other teams QB’s.

I’m not a Murray fan. Too short, offensive scheme is not conducive to winning a championship.



No, Producer just wants to apply the same standard to all players. If Daniel Jones had reached those statistical milestones, for instance, instead of 23rd, 26th, and 22nd respectively, folks here would be fitting him for a gold jacket.

And in terms of the offensive scheme not winning, the Cards won 11 games. Do you prefer the *hard nosed* running and defense style the Giants played? Which was good for 4 wins?


That style will win you some regular season games. But once you hit the playoffs and defenses start playing harder you can’t win with that spread college offense. That’s why it took so long for it to reach the NFL.
RE: RE: We are in desperate need of an explosive  
j_rud : 1/17/2022 11:13 pm : link
In comment 15558714 j_rud said:
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slot receiver


And a OT and 2 guards and a couple TEs and a DT and an EDGE rusher and an ILB and a safety

And a center
To be fair Producer...  
Johnny5 : 1/17/2022 11:13 pm : link
If that was us playing tonight and Jones threw that horrible pick 6... You and a couple others would be losing your minds... lol
RE: RE: RE: We are in desperate need of an explosive  
j_rud : 1/17/2022 11:13 pm : link
In comment 15558716 j_rud said:
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In comment 15558709 shadow_spinner0 said:


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slot receiver


And a OT and 2 guards and a couple TEs and a DT and an EDGE rusher and an ILB and a safety


And a center

And a punter. Shit.
RE: To be fair Producer...  
Producer : 1/17/2022 11:16 pm : link
In comment 15558717 Johnny5 said:
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If that was us playing tonight and Jones threw that horrible pick 6... You and a couple others would be losing your minds... lol


To be fair, I'd be disappointed but a proven track record of solid play would give me hope. Something Daniel Jones doesn't have. That's the point which you seem to not want to acknowledge.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The Cardinals  
Producer : 1/17/2022 11:18 pm : link
In comment 15558715 eric2425ny said:
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Are good enough to have been in position for the # 1 seed 5 weeks ago. Murray has them looking like they haven’t practiced.

He’s not very good.



Kyler is 2nd in completion pct, 6th in QBR, 4th in Y/A..

But he had a bad half of football in his first playoff game and therfore he's not very good. But we need 5 years to evaluate Daniel Jones. [/s]



Ok Ok ‘not very good’ was too kind.

He sucks.



Lol, Producer gets very defensive about other teams QB’s.

I’m not a Murray fan. Too short, offensive scheme is not conducive to winning a championship.



No, Producer just wants to apply the same standard to all players. If Daniel Jones had reached those statistical milestones, for instance, instead of 23rd, 26th, and 22nd respectively, folks here would be fitting him for a gold jacket.

And in terms of the offensive scheme not winning, the Cards won 11 games. Do you prefer the *hard nosed* running and defense style the Giants played? Which was good for 4 wins?



That style will win you some regular season games. But once you hit the playoffs and defenses start playing harder you can’t win with that spread college offense. That’s why it took so long for it to reach the NFL.


So glad you have a crystal ball and know how the game of football will evolve in the future. Where did you stand on the west coast offense before the 49ers won 5 Super Bowls with it?
As long as the Rams can  
Giantimistic : 1/17/2022 11:18 pm : link
avoid bad weather games, they are going to be a hard team to beat.

They have the type of defense that can do some damage. They are a big play defense with some big pash rushers and a shutdown corner.
Producer  
eric2425ny : 1/17/2022 11:19 pm : link
I don’t think any of us really like Jones. But many are fairly critiquing Murray. He looked like shit tonight and hasn’t won anything of significance in three years in the league. It’s ok to critique his play.
Donte Deayon  
Paulie Walnuts : 1/17/2022 11:25 pm : link
Sighting
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The Cardinals  
Debaser : 1/17/2022 11:26 pm : link
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That style will win you some regular season games. But once you hit the playoffs and defenses start playing harder you can’t win with that spread college offense. That’s why it took so long for it to reach the NFL.



So glad you have a crystal ball and know how the game of football will evolve in the future. Where did you stand on the west coast offense before the 49ers won 5 Super Bowls with it?


Not to mention Reid and the Chiefs are not winning with it?
RE: Producer  
bw in dc : 1/17/2022 11:26 pm : link
In comment 15558723 eric2425ny said:
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I don’t think any of us really like Jones. But many are fairly critiquing Murray. He looked like shit tonight and hasn’t won anything of significance in three years in the league. It’s ok to critique his play.


I was told last night and today that Murray was much better than Dak. How did that manifest itself tonight? ;)
RE: Producer  
Producer : 1/17/2022 11:26 pm : link
In comment 15558723 eric2425ny said:
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I don’t think any of us really like Jones. But many are fairly critiquing Murray. He looked like shit tonight and hasn’t won anything of significance in three years in the league. It’s ok to critique his play.


Sure. It was a bad game. But to say haunted, firing the coach, Murray sucks..

It's hyperbolic.

The Cards took an important step this season. I'm curious where they go from here.
Kyler Murray has a lot to prove next year  
dpinzow : 1/17/2022 11:27 pm : link
he got embarrassed in his first ever playoff game and this is the point where he either proves he can take the next step (Super Bowl contention) or not
Big congrats to Stafford...  
bw in dc : 1/17/2022 11:28 pm : link
on getting his playoff win. One of the great arm talents we've seen. I have a feeling he's got bigger things ahead in Tampa.
RE: RE: How was it a good trade  
Debaser : 1/17/2022 11:28 pm : link
In comment 15558486 Scuzzlebutt said:
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Peppers gives jag new definition



Maybe you didn’t realize this but it wasn’t a straight up OBJ for Peppers trade.


i realized this. 2 other forgettable jags were involved too. Dex is a Jag as well.

Other JAGs that BBI seems to pump up and elevate Blake Martinz Nick Gates.
RE: RE: Eli  
Debaser : 1/17/2022 11:39 pm : link
In comment 15558610 an_idol_mind said:
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Eli played on a team that was barely above 500 when he played in a playoff game as what seed ? a wild card at like 9-7?

That is far different than a team that makes pea shooter colt McCoy look like an all star



Giants went 11-5 during Eli's first playoff season. Had Jay Feeley made one field goal out of three, they would have had a bye that year.


Excuse my ass I got the 2006 season confused with the 2005 one ; it has only been 17 years ago.

The point is made that Eli was playing in his first ever full NFL season ; that is different than Kyler playing in 3 full seasons.
Classic beatdown  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 1/17/2022 11:44 pm : link
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RE: To be fair Producer...  
Johnny5 : 1/17/2022 11:45 pm : link
In comment 15558719 Producer said:
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If that was us playing tonight and Jones threw that horrible pick 6... You and a couple others would be losing your minds... lol



To be fair, I'd be disappointed but a proven track record of solid play would give me hope. Something Daniel Jones doesn't have. That's the point which you seem to not want to acknowledge.

No, I acknowledge that. I do wonder where he'd be now if he stayed in Shurmur's offense, though. And if we actually addressed the OL. Meh. It doesn't matter now, I don't really care anymore. I'll still root for him though as long as he is a Giant. Hopefully we pick the right GM.
RE: RE: To be fair Producer...  
Producer : 1/17/2022 11:50 pm : link
In comment 15558750 Johnny5 said:
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If that was us playing tonight and Jones threw that horrible pick 6... You and a couple others would be losing your minds... lol



To be fair, I'd be disappointed but a proven track record of solid play would give me hope. Something Daniel Jones doesn't have. That's the point which you seem to not want to acknowledge.


No, I acknowledge that. I do wonder where he'd be now if he stayed in Shurmur's offense, though. And if we actually addressed the OL. Meh. It doesn't matter now, I don't really care anymore. I'll still root for him though as long as he is a Giant. Hopefully we pick the right GM.


I hope so too. I want us to have some postseason fun.
Shurmur shit again  
Debaser : 1/17/2022 11:52 pm : link
Do you wonder where Case Keenum would be too ?

Do you wonder where Henson would be if he beat Brady out of starting job at Michigan or stayed with Football instead of playing for the Yankees?

Shumur got fired from here because he wasn't a good coach he lost a ton of games and a lot of that was due to Jones propensity to turn the ball over.
RE: Shurmur shit again  
Johnny5 : 1/17/2022 11:58 pm : link
In comment 15558753 Debaser said:
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Do you wonder where Case Keenum would be too ?

Do you wonder where Henson would be if he beat Brady out of starting job at Michigan or stayed with Football instead of playing for the Yankees?

Shumur got fired from here because he wasn't a good coach he lost a ton of games and a lot of that was due to Jones propensity to turn the ball over.

Dude, gimme a break. He was pretty good in Shurmur's offense, obviously minus the fumbles, which is the only way he got better under Judge/Garret. He regressed in every other aspect of QB'ing. I'm not saying I wanted to keep Shurmur... lol. But our offense went to shit under Judge and Garrett. And Kitchens.
Wow  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/18/2022 12:08 am : link
Kliff Kingsbury's end to the season as a head coach

Texas Tech:
• '13: lost 5 of 6
• '14: lost 4 of 6
• '15: lost 4 of 6
• '16: lost 6 of 8
• '17: lost 6 of 8
• '18: lost 5 of 5

Cardinals:
• '19: lost 7 of 9
• '20: lost 5 of 7
• ‘21: lost 5 of 6
RE: RE: Shurmur shit again  
Debaser : 1/18/2022 12:46 am : link
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Do you wonder where Case Keenum would be too ?

Do you wonder where Henson would be if he beat Brady out of starting job at Michigan or stayed with Football instead of playing for the Yankees?

Shumur got fired from here because he wasn't a good coach he lost a ton of games and a lot of that was due to Jones propensity to turn the ball over.


Dude, gimme a break. He was pretty good in Shurmur's offense, obviously minus the fumbles, which is the only way he got better under Judge/Garret. He regressed in every other aspect of QB'ing. I'm not saying I wanted to keep Shurmur... lol. But our offense went to shit under Judge and Garrett. And Kitchens.


Ok then who Glennons oc when he was a rookie nine years ago? Let’s bring him in since Glennon was good back then too and intervening years don’t count and Glennon int s don’t count either. We just get to cherry pick the good and ignite the bad and project onto the future about how it could be
RE: Aaron Donald choking someone while wearing a Stop Hate helmet  
Route 9 : 1/18/2022 1:58 am : link
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Lol what if their last name was Hate and he was stopping them from breathing
RE: Wow  
Hammer : 1/18/2022 7:30 am : link
In comment 15558759 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Kliff Kingsbury's end to the season as a head coach

Texas Tech:
• '13: lost 5 of 6
• '14: lost 4 of 6
• '15: lost 4 of 6
• '16: lost 6 of 8
• '17: lost 6 of 8
• '18: lost 5 of 5

Cardinals:
• '19: lost 7 of 9
• '20: lost 5 of 7
• ‘21: lost 5 of 6


Yeah, wow. That is incredibly damning.
Kingsbury isn't going to get fired this year  
UConn4523 : 1/18/2022 8:39 am : link
but their faltering down the stretch has now become problematic. Teams are adapting to their offense and they can't overcome injuries like the other top teams can. I think he gets one more season and they will load up on offense in the offseason.
I see many Cardinals fans trashing Murray  
shadow_spinner0 : 1/18/2022 9:05 am : link
some even wanting to move on from him since they doubt he's a franchise QB. Just goes to show you, unless your QB is Rogers or Brady, a bad game will cause fans to debate about whether or not the current QB is "the guy" regardless of talent.

Many want the GM and HC to be fired after this game. We wanted our HC and GM to be fired after this disaster season yet there is this fanbase with no historical success making the playoffs for the first time in 5 years and after a bad game want to blow it all up lol
thoughts on this game  
ColHowPepper : 1/18/2022 9:16 am : link
- Cards have faltered late, yeah, but it took ESPN and the broadcast crew until deep into Q3 to show their record with and w/o D'Andre? I could have missed an early reference, but the difference is dramatic

- Speaking of the broadcast crew, on a different thread I agreed w/ another poster about their negatives: modifying that--it's Steve Levy who really turns my stomach

- Dontae Deayon when he was with the Giants last season (?), was it 2019?--his AA jumped out at you, his quickness, twitchiness--and he lacked experience. He is small, for sure, but he showed last night there is a place for him on an NFL roster

- Cam Akers, man he was impressive; I don't know how he squirted through so many holes that looked non-existent as a TV viewer

- Rams do seem to have coverage issues on medium/crossing routes over the middle. Not sure how much further they go, but their pass rush is going to give Brady fits

- Murray had a bad night up until it didn't matter any more, too bad. That desperation get rid of the ball to avoid a safety was positively Giants like
Murray  
Debaser : 1/18/2022 5:55 pm : link
had a bad night is a bit of an understatement.


The fact Colt McCoy looks like an all star on that team despite playing here --and admittedly had some great clutch throws-- was replaced by Glennon . He hardly threw for 100 yards in his start where he upset Seattle.You add that up and it indicates to me there is something seriously wrong with him.
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