But the QB situation is secondary to the ownership issues the Bears have. I think Mara is a fool but he’s not a raving douchebag like George McCaskey, the Bears’ Chairman.
RE: RE: RE: A thread on Joe Schoen shouldn't turn into an intelligence
As for whether it's an intelligence test, gimme a beak! If you want to challenge me to an IQ test just name the time and place, I scored 27 points above genius the last time I took one (45 years ago).
You're both great posters, so I feel bad laughing at this, but when a GIF perfectly aligns with a reply, it's a treasure to behold.
RE: RE: A thread on Joe Schoen shouldn't turn into an intelligence
test on what's best to do with Jones in 2022/23. But yet...it has.
bw in dc shot out a fairly straight-forward post that got a bunch of you all riled up for whatever your particular reason is. Although my guess, for many, it's to challenge the critic versus think through the logic...
No it's because he's being a dick by throwing in a Jones potshot on a thread about Schoen. Is he posting something new? No. Is he basing his opinion on anything that's been reported? No. Is he as big a dick as Go Terps? Not by a long shot. That's why his juvenile trolling is so disappointing. He's supposed to be one of the grown ups (I like bw in dc and generally value his opinion, but this is just childishness born out of boredom and he needed to be called out for it).
As for challenging the critic, he didn't post a criticism. He presented an uninformed hypothetical and then backed it up with an uninformed assumption. As for whether it's an intelligence test, gimme a beak! If you want to challenge me to an IQ test just name the time and place, I scored 27 points above genius the last time I took one (45 years ago).
there are no god damned QBs worth drafting in round 1 and the Giants don't want to give Jimmy G a whopper contract? Then what? We just HAD to cut Jones even though he was only signed for one year, is better than ANYONE on the roster and likely better than that 2nd rounder you can't wait to draft. So then what????
to have Kurt Warner here when he was fresh off 2-3 bad seasons even though we just drafted Eli at first overall? But keeping Jones to hold the fort is proof that the big bad wolf is forcing GM's hand. Why is Jones such a bad option but signing some vet FA is not? What the fuck are we gonna do with JAcoby Brisett that we cannot do with Jones? They are near mirrir images of each other and here's a little news flash, Brisett or any other FA comes with a bigger price tag, and I know you all love to talk about money.
As for whether it's an intelligence test, gimme a beak! If you want to challenge me to an IQ test just name the time and place, I scored 27 points above genius the last time I took one (45 years ago).
That got an LOL out of me! And for good reason (it's never good form to be spouting test scores from your teenage years).
New GM and coach are not going to want any part of Jones.
Gettleman and Judge are gone because Daniel Jones sucked.
If Daniel Jones had just a little magic and won a few games on talent, even with the losing, both would likely still be here. All Mara needed was a little hope but Jones poor play got those men canned, they were tied to his success.
BW trolls and you guys troll him. Is what it is. Stop complaining and own it.
RE: I’ll interrupt this Daniel Jones debate to say that Allen’s 1st TD
to have Kurt Warner here when he was fresh off 2-3 bad seasons even though we just drafted Eli at first overall? But keeping Jones to hold the fort is proof that the big bad wolf is forcing GM's hand. Why is Jones such a bad option but signing some vet FA is not? What the fuck are we gonna do with JAcoby Brisett that we cannot do with Jones? They are near mirrir images of each other and here's a little news flash, Brisett or any other FA comes with a bigger price tag, and I know you all love to talk about money.
Can we just acknowledge that we all knew Warner was a placeholder at the time? He was taking over for Collins, who I think the franchise (and fans) would have rather kept as the bridge. But both Collins and Warner were someone else's QBs first, so there wasn't a firstborn attachment. And with that transition, there was a new baby in the house - everyone was eager to see Eli.
That's not what we're dealing with here. With Jones, we have a get-out policy taking form. And his price tag does matter. I know you don't give a fuck about the salary cap, but it's a real thing, and Jones is currently cheap, but that won't be the case after next season.
So we either need to identify a successor now (that would be the Eli in your own example), and make Jones the bridge for 2022, or punt the successor to 2023, and look for someone to compete with Jones in 2022 while we sort out 2023 and beyond.
It's not a good plan to just say "we have Jones already, let's just see" because he hasn't given the team any reason to lock him in yet, so he's entering 2022 as a lame duck.
As for the money, who cost more in 2021, Jones or Trubisky? Could the latter have steered us to 4 wins?
RE: RE: I’ll interrupt this Daniel Jones debate to say that Allen’s 1st TD
Throw in the win over New England this weekend was unearthly brilliant. It may have been among the handful of the best throws I have ever seen.
Not sure if serious??? He admitted he was trying to throw the ball away.
https://billswire.usatoday.com/2022/01/16/josh-allen-admits-he-tried-to-throw-away-first-bills-td-to-dawson-knox/ - ( New Window )
Didn’t realize this. So it was an utterly brilliant catch. I thought Allen decided to put in a spot where it was either a TD catch or an incompletion.
Whether they love DJ or not, it’s what you have to replace him. A vet QB that’s better is about $15 mil a year. And you’re taking a cap hit for DJ, and this isn’t a QB heavy draft. They could try to trade him but with his neck that may not be worth much.
It may very well be that the new GM would like to move on from DJ long term but doesn’t think it’s the best use of resources this particular year. They may take some cap hits this year to clear space, and run with DJ. They find out what they have there, let him compete with whatever option they can afford, and spend their money this year on other holes. Then if DJ isn’t the guy they replace him after there’s no cap hit to let him walk.
Whatever they do, saying it’s a bad move a priori is ridiculous.
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As for whether it's an intelligence test, gimme a beak! If you want to challenge me to an IQ test just name the time and place, I scored 27 points above genius the last time I took one (45 years ago).
You're both great posters, so I feel bad laughing at this, but when a GIF perfectly aligns with a reply, it's a treasure to behold.
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test on what's best to do with Jones in 2022/23. But yet...it has.
bw in dc shot out a fairly straight-forward post that got a bunch of you all riled up for whatever your particular reason is. Although my guess, for many, it's to challenge the critic versus think through the logic...
No it's because he's being a dick by throwing in a Jones potshot on a thread about Schoen. Is he posting something new? No. Is he basing his opinion on anything that's been reported? No. Is he as big a dick as Go Terps? Not by a long shot. That's why his juvenile trolling is so disappointing. He's supposed to be one of the grown ups (I like bw in dc and generally value his opinion, but this is just childishness born out of boredom and he needed to be called out for it).
As for challenging the critic, he didn't post a criticism. He presented an uninformed hypothetical and then backed it up with an uninformed assumption. As for whether it's an intelligence test, gimme a beak! If you want to challenge me to an IQ test just name the time and place, I scored 27 points above genius the last time I took one (45 years ago).
Milton posting on BBI with his phone...
All the people who like Jones criticize the Giants OL, receivers, coaches, etc. But that's not "being a dick" or a troll? What's the difference?
who are significant steps above the lowly Giants.
No they aren't.
Hypothetically, new GM and HC punt Jones into the sun, do you think the Defense Force isn't going to immediately start ripping them?
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As for whether it's an intelligence test, gimme a beak! If you want to challenge me to an IQ test just name the time and place, I scored 27 points above genius the last time I took one (45 years ago).
That got an LOL out of me! And for good reason (it's never good form to be spouting test scores from your teenage years).
Gettleman and Judge are gone because Daniel Jones sucked.
If Daniel Jones had just a little magic and won a few games on talent, even with the losing, both would likely still be here. All Mara needed was a little hope but Jones poor play got those men canned, they were tied to his success.
BW trolls and you guys troll him. Is what it is. Stop complaining and own it.
Not sure if serious??? He admitted he was trying to throw the ball away.
https://billswire.usatoday.com/2022/01/16/josh-allen-admits-he-tried-to-throw-away-first-bills-td-to-dawson-knox/ - ( New Window )
I think it's the whole "Jones sucks" thing.
Can we just acknowledge that we all knew Warner was a placeholder at the time? He was taking over for Collins, who I think the franchise (and fans) would have rather kept as the bridge. But both Collins and Warner were someone else's QBs first, so there wasn't a firstborn attachment. And with that transition, there was a new baby in the house - everyone was eager to see Eli.
That's not what we're dealing with here. With Jones, we have a get-out policy taking form. And his price tag does matter. I know you don't give a fuck about the salary cap, but it's a real thing, and Jones is currently cheap, but that won't be the case after next season.
So we either need to identify a successor now (that would be the Eli in your own example), and make Jones the bridge for 2022, or punt the successor to 2023, and look for someone to compete with Jones in 2022 while we sort out 2023 and beyond.
It's not a good plan to just say "we have Jones already, let's just see" because he hasn't given the team any reason to lock him in yet, so he's entering 2022 as a lame duck.
As for the money, who cost more in 2021, Jones or Trubisky? Could the latter have steered us to 4 wins?
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Throw in the win over New England this weekend was unearthly brilliant. It may have been among the handful of the best throws I have ever seen.
Not sure if serious??? He admitted he was trying to throw the ball away.
https://billswire.usatoday.com/2022/01/16/josh-allen-admits-he-tried-to-throw-away-first-bills-td-to-dawson-knox/ - ( New Window )
Didn’t realize this. So it was an utterly brilliant catch. I thought Allen decided to put in a spot where it was either a TD catch or an incompletion.
It may very well be that the new GM would like to move on from DJ long term but doesn’t think it’s the best use of resources this particular year. They may take some cap hits this year to clear space, and run with DJ. They find out what they have there, let him compete with whatever option they can afford, and spend their money this year on other holes. Then if DJ isn’t the guy they replace him after there’s no cap hit to let him walk.
Whatever they do, saying it’s a bad move a priori is ridiculous.
My thoughts exactly