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Can Peart be a good starting guard?

Talisman_52 : 1/19/2022 11:42 am
Assuming we draft a right tackle with one of our early picks, what does that mean for Peart? Does he just become a backup or is there a chance that he could be converted into a good starting guard? What traits is he missing to be a good guard?
Security Guard?  
Jim in Forest Hills : 1/19/2022 11:44 am : link
Yes
Traits missing..  
Goin Deep : 1/19/2022 11:44 am : link
Nasty for one.
RE: Security Guard?  
Big Blue '56 : 1/19/2022 11:44 am : link
In comment 15560822 Jim in Forest Hills said:
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Yes


I laughed. 👍🏿👍
Peart is 6'7"  
Rjanyg : 1/19/2022 11:44 am : link
He might be a little tall for a guard IMO.

Swing tackle is his best position next year.
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BleedBlue : 1/19/2022 11:46 am : link
he will be a swing tackle and i still believe he will be a good one.

Bad year last year, still young and developing, had COVID, etc. jst a lot working against him. I think this year, pressure is off, he isnt expected to start or contribute more than just a depth piece. id be shocked if one of 5 or 7 wasnt an OT so peart will be the swing tackle.
Coaches disliked his lack of penchances for physicality.  
BLUATHRT : 1/19/2022 11:47 am : link
I don't see how that translates well to any position on our starting line.
Torn ACL and questionable motivation  
ij_reilly : 1/19/2022 11:48 am : link
The Giants plan for next year cannot rely on this player.

If he shows up, can play, and makes the team, great.

But the team's plan must not depend on him playing.
Peary will be lucky to be on a practice squad in 2 years  
Dave in PA : 1/19/2022 11:48 am : link
There should be zero reliance on this guy for several reasons now
From what I have read  
Rudy5757 : 1/19/2022 11:48 am : link
Peart needs to want to play. The coaches dont trust him right now. For him to not beat out Solder is very telling. Unless he changes his mindset he may not be in the league very long.
If you can believe Sale  
Bill in UT : 1/19/2022 11:49 am : link
Peart's problems seemed to be that he was lazy and not motivated. If that's the case, he won't make a good starting anything.
Worth a try, I guess  
David B. : 1/19/2022 11:50 am : link
But I honestly don't think he has the mentality to play OL (last two OL coaches couldn't get him to beat out Soldier, who's awful, or get him to play mean). Nobody should be surprised if he's cut, outright by a new regime. Buf if not, sure, try him at OG. WTF? What's the worst that could happen? Even Flowers found a home at OG. Doesn't work, you can still cut him.


Security Guard -- WELL PLAYED! Perfect!
Talisman_52  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/19/2022 11:53 am : link
Peart tore his ACL in late December. We likely won't see him - if at all - until 2023.
looks like Tarzan, Plays like Jane  
MartyNJ1969 : 1/19/2022 11:54 am : link
That is the book on Peart IMO
He will almost certainly miss the beginning of the season  
Jay on the Island : 1/19/2022 11:54 am : link
due to the torn ACL. There is a chance he misses the entire year so the Giants will proceed as if he isn't on the roster.

Peart has been disappointing especially after a promising start to his rookie season. I haven't completely given up on him developing into a dependable player but the Giants need to bring in a starting RT and OT depth.

I actually hope that the Giants draft three offensive linemen preferably an OT, a G, and a G/C. As of now the only locks to be on the roster next season are Andrew Thomas, Shane Lemieux, and Ben Bredeson. Thomas is the only one who is a proven starter while Bredeson will likely serve as depth at guard and center. Shane Lemieux will compete for one starting guard spot and hopefully he earns it because that would be a nice boost for the entire line if the left side is set.

Peart not being able to push Nate Solder down the depth chart  
Jimmy Googs : 1/19/2022 11:56 am : link
is about as big of a red flag as you can have, even if only his second season.

Being an Offensive Lineman evaluated and drafted by the NY Giants is a second huge red flag...
Ben Bredeson was awful when he played  
arniefez : 1/19/2022 11:57 am : link
He's someone to keep an eye on with a full off season program and new coaching staff does he improve to serviceable?
Security guard… hilarious, well played.  
Talisman_52 : 1/19/2022 11:58 am : link
A shame if he doesn’t have the internal drive to succeed. However, maybe losing his spot and competing for another position and his next contract could light the fire. I’m asking the question because I’m just really tired of draft picks not panning out in any shape or form. It’s a trend that has really gotten stale.
I was hoping that maybe he and Hernandez could rotate/compete for the same position and maybe, just maybe that internal competition would produce someone who can positively contribute through an entire season.
RE: Peart not being able to push Nate Solder down the depth chart  
UberAlias : 1/19/2022 12:06 pm : link
In comment 15560862 Jimmy Googs said:
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is about as big of a red flag as you can have, even if only his second season.

Being an Offensive Lineman evaluated and drafted by the NY Giants is a second huge red flag...
This.
RE: Talisman_52  
Rudy5757 : 1/19/2022 12:10 pm : link
In comment 15560854 Eric from BBI said:
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Peart tore his ACL in late December. We likely won't see him - if at all - until 2023.


I didnt know he tore his ACL. There is a good chance he never plays in the NFL again.
Jim wins  
JonC : 1/19/2022 12:11 pm : link
Tough to change a man's inner workings unless he does it himself. He's probably too tall for OG, and if doesn't want it enough at OT, he probably won't want to mix it up inside either.

My vote is for swing tackle. Not to mention, as Eric said, the knee means we can't count on him in 2022 (Gates either).
No  
NJLCO : 1/19/2022 12:14 pm : link
Stop trying to make this guy an NFL player. U Conn. should have been a big negative
Peart has lost any chance of being considered a starter  
George from PA : 1/19/2022 12:19 pm : link
Swing tackle at best..
.imo
No  
sb from NYT Forum : 1/19/2022 12:21 pm : link
He does not have quick reaction time so pulling or picking up stunts is out, plus his footwork and leverage are poor.

And he will be rehabbing his knee most of 2022.
Cut his a$$  
Optimus-NY : 1/19/2022 12:23 pm : link
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RE: Worth a try, I guess  
FStubbs : 1/19/2022 12:46 pm : link
In comment 15560847 David B. said:
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But I honestly don't think he has the mentality to play OL (last two OL coaches couldn't get him to beat out Soldier, who's awful, or get him to play mean). Nobody should be surprised if he's cut, outright by a new regime. Buf if not, sure, try him at OG. WTF? What's the worst that could happen? Even Flowers found a home at OG. Doesn't work, you can still cut him.


Security Guard -- WELL PLAYED! Perfect!


Flowers was terrible but he did have the mentality, which is why he's okay at guard.
Thomas is the only OL  
GiantsRage2007 : 1/19/2022 12:51 pm : link
You can count on to be back.

Lemieux wasn't all that good and he tore his patella
Gates had a crazy serious injury and 5 or 6 surgeries
Peart tore his ACL in Dec and sucked anyway
Price is a FA and sucked
The rest are jags anyway...

There needs to be more than 1 OL drafted and more than 1 FA signing to be made.

RE: Talisman_52  
kdog77 : 1/19/2022 12:52 pm : link
In comment 15560854 Eric from BBI said:
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Peart tore his ACL in late December. We likely won't see him - if at all - until 2023.


If he is not cut before then.
Can Peart be a good starting guard?  
M.S. : 1/19/2022 1:04 pm : link

Peart is hurt.
He's just one more
Gettleman burp.
I don't think Peart's issues are physical.  
Section331 : 1/19/2022 1:46 pm : link
It's not that he isn't cutting it at ORT because he can't do the job physically, it's that he hasn't shown the mental make-up to be tough and grind things out. Until he figures that part out, I don't think moving positions is going to fix anything.
I Don't Think It's Too Early To Hang The 'Bust' Label On Peart  
Trainmaster : 1/19/2022 1:49 pm : link
As others have said, not being able to push Solder out of the starting role (or even significant playing time) is a huge red flag.

Now we have a reportedly undermotivated player dealing with an ACL injury.

Security guard seems to be his next job.
Don’t count  
SleepyOwl : 1/19/2022 2:01 pm : link
On Peart being here next year.
RE: RE: Security Guard?  
Photoguy : 1/19/2022 4:15 pm : link
In comment 15560829 Big Blue '56 said:
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In comment 15560822 Jim in Forest Hills said:


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Yes



I laughed. 👍🏿👍


So did I.
Just don’t trust him  
Mattman : 1/19/2022 4:42 pm : link
To guard anything important
RE: Can Peart be a good starting guard?  
Joe Beckwith : 1/19/2022 5:47 pm : link
In comment 15560979 M.S. said:
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Peart is hurt.
He's just one more
Gettleman burp.


You have the excess gas coming out of the wrong end of him.
RE: Talisman_52  
DavidinBMNY : 1/19/2022 6:10 pm : link
In comment 15560854 Eric from BBI said:
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Peart tore his ACL in late December. We likely won't see him - if at all - until 2023.
Exactly. He's not a factor on the roster in '22. And he's not a guard.
Peart played more OG than OT in college.  
No Where Man : 1/20/2022 6:51 am : link
Yes, I would give a chance at OG.
RE: I don't think Peart's issues are physical.  
ATL_Giants : 1/20/2022 8:36 am : link
In comment 15561050 Section331 said:
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It's not that he isn't cutting it at ORT because he can't do the job physically, it's that he hasn't shown the mental make-up to be tough and grind things out. Until he figures that part out, I don't think moving positions is going to fix anything.

This'll happen on his 2nd team. Adulthood will hit him, and he'll find the drive to make a journeyman's career in the NFL. With NY getting just the shit beginning of his career.
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